| IVOD_ID |
16892 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16892 |
| 日期 |
2025-08-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-20,15,35,19,22,23,36,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、交通、司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[6] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[7] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
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| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[5] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[6] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[7] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、交通、司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-08-28T08:32:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-08-28T16:49:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
08:16:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528ec9b3c92c53a7812158f1f00bc7db390d112bf0b47f4e58e3a8f6c7f039450b545ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-08-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、交通、司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算追加預算案（含秘密會議）。
【預算提案截止時間：8月25日（一）下午5時】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:32:07 - 16:49:00 |
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報告委員會請主任秘書報告出席委員人數報告委員會出席委員與主法定人數好 報告委員會我們現在是不是請幕僚人員 |
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全部到801那裡去這裡只有做首長或者副首長的位置好不好讓我們開會記者媒體朋友們是不是請各位能夠讓我們開會那麼請我們醫事人員幫忙這個清理現場好不好這個後面這樣子亂乖乖的我們沒辦法開會請各位我再講一遍 |
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請各位木鳥人員到你們要去的地方不要在這個會場這個會場坐的就是立委這個會場請他們全部 請你們全部都要離開好不好因為這樣沒有辦法開會而且請各位不要講話好嗎 在裡面不要講話 |
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我們再兩分鐘請各單位的陪同人員 幕僚人員請你們到801802那個地方好不好還有紅樓那個地方不要在這裡拜託大家因為今天我們的會議非常重要 |
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跟各位報告現在我們的空氣品質非常不好啊這個1998啦齁因為人太多了齁我們請各位這個配合齁請各位維持會場的次序齁請我們醫事人員幫忙幫忙一下維持會場的次序齁好 |
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現在本席正式宣布開始開會請議事人員宣讀進入的議程審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算追加預算案含機密預算宣讀完畢 |
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2003.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
2021.178 |
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好 我們現在介紹在場的委員有吳秉樂委員 王振旭委員還有徐富可委員 我們的王逸川委員還有政府的官員 我只介紹因為來的單位很多 我只介紹這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
2023.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
2040.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
主管總統府的秘書長潘孟安 潘秘書長感謝 歡迎立法院的周焯萊秘書長司法院的這個我跟各位報告今天非常重要的一個你們是要錢的單位這個等於小型的總預算主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
2047.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
2066.689 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
部長會以及部會首長以及我們的各院的秘書長如果沒有到也沒有請假像我們的考試院就沒有請假秘書長不來我就講了我們這考試院要的錢一毛錢都不給 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
2068.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
2080.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
我就講好了 高部會部長不到的話除非他出國 反正原則上我們沒辦法給錢 沒辦法同意所以我會等一下處理的時候會嚴加處理檢察院大理秘書長 王秘書長行政院 龔秘書長他因為他也跟我請假 國安會的劉副秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
2098.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
2126.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
國使館的陳館長主計總書的陳主計長那麼其他各位自行參閱人事總書的蘇人事長故宮的蕭院長國發會的因為他們現在在交接 詹副主委原民會的曾主委科委會的谷主委中選會的李主委河岸會的陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
2128.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
2144.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
公平會的陳代理主委NCC的陳代理主委陸委會的邱主委運安會的林主委不貪貪腸處理委員會的林主委以及工程會的陳主委公務人員保障培訓委員會的蔡主委審計部的陳審計長內政部的劉部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
2157.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
2165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
外交部的外交部因為部長在國外有吳宗次長國安部的顧部長財政部的莊部長教育部的鄭部長法務部的鄭部長經濟部的何次長因為現在部長在教協當中交通部的陳部長勞動部的洪部長農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
2185.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
2200.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
陳部長 衛福部的邱部長環境部的彭部長文化部的李部長樹發部的葉長次僑委會的阮正次國科會的吳主委經管會的彭主委海洋會的管主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
2214.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
2224.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
退輔會的原主委 國安局的蔡局長國使館的黃館長以及國安局的副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
2227.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
2252.856 |
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那麼本次會議由財政 內政 外交 國防 經濟教育局 文化 交通 司法 法治 社福 環境等8個委員聯席審查行政院 含其審議專案民國114年中央政府總預算追加預算案含機密部分經歷程先進行公開部分的詢答然後再改開秘密 |
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2254.478 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
2267.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
會議進行機密預算 巡打及處理提案 部分後再處理公開部分的預算提案 現在呢我們因為報告太多了 我們就請一個單位主計長來跟我們報告 其他單位的報告請各位諮詢參閱 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
2285.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2299.923 |
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主席各位委員先進大家好今天硬要列席聯席會議就114年度中央政府總預算追加預算案編列情形提出報告本追加預算案主要內容一稅出編列878億 |
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2303.056 |
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2321.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
說明如下一國防部主管及海洋委員會主管調整軍職人員各項勤務加急所需經費五十九億元二原住民委員會補助原住民綜合發展基金辦理原住民保留地進化補償計畫所需經費二十四億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
2322.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2343.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
三是中央選委會辦理第十一屆立法委員罷免案及全國性公民投票手續經費15億元四是外交部主管辦理厚實外交執行能量及加速推動拓邦鞏固邦交等手續經費11億元五之下是和縣市政府一般性補助636億元 |
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2346.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2364.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
六 各機關推行各項市政確有實際需要追加的部分是133億元主要包括第一個經濟部主管辦理生源調度幹管工程計畫及降低漏水率等總共是30億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
2367.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
2379.203 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
2 內政部主管辦理生活圈道路交通系統建設計畫等總共是29億元3 數位發展部辦理數位創新研發計畫 軍民運用資安技術研發補助計畫等 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
2382.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2396.256 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
十三億元四 農業部主管辦理整體性治山防洪大規模噴塌及不安定土砂防撿災等總共是十一億元五 國防部主管辦理各營區維運國內外專業訓練招募宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
2400.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2420.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
波充國軍營設及設施改善基金辦理資安園區中長城計畫等10億元六外交部主管辦理加強雙邊及多邊合作對國際之關懷救助及重建等10億元七海洋委員會主管辦理籌建海巡艦艇潛艇發展計畫等 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
2424.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2437.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
總共是9億元八 衛生福利部主管 文化部主管等部會辦理急性傳染病流行風險監控及管理等第四期計畫提高國家重要癌症篩檢等總共21億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2440.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2457.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
以上稅出追加手續財源878億元全部以原預算收支剩餘數支應綜上追加預算結果總個稅入為此3兆1648億元稅出增為3兆128億元稅入稅出剩餘1520億元扣除債務還本1415億元收支剩餘105億元以上報告敬請主席及各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2469.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2473.219 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
委員你是先生會議指教並鼎力支持謝謝好 謝謝我在這宣布我們現在空氣品質1998非常的糟我們後面的媒體駕著攝影機的後面的朋友是不是可以請你們離開這個會場 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2489.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2509.728 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
我們現在群仙樓有801 802紅樓101都有現況的實況轉播所以各位可以在那裡看一樣可以看得到我們在進行的好不好請大家能夠配合好不好能夠旁邊站的一樣請你們離開好不好因為這樣子的話我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2510.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2522.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
我們的官員 我們的立委們呢這個在這裡 空氣品質這麼糟啊昏昏沉沉的 對健康也不好我們再介紹剛到的立委喔林德武委員林德武委員好 沒有沒有沒有還沒講話 你這個還沒有 我是介紹你來陳雪生委員李柏毅委員王美惠委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2541.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2551.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
因為今天我們要處理公開預算還要處理秘密預算所以我們的情況是比昨天我們的負擔比昨天多了最少50%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2556.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2582.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
因為這次追加預算涉及到外交國防的機密預算所以要登記機密預算諮詢的委員請到主席台來登記現在我們開始詢答每位委員發言四分鐘因為我們還要處理機密這個完全是為了國家我們完全配合 四分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2584.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2594.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
不得延長 四分一到我就站起來了好 我們第一位今天早上十點鐘為止截止發言登記首先請登記第一位的林鄭委員請咨詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2605.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2611.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
謝謝主席有一位這個部會首長還有各位同仁是不是請那個陳處紀長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2623.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2633.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
委員好主席長你好我請教因為媒體宣傳會是否有必要大幅度的來追加預算因為本席是希望說行政機關有義務 |
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2636.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2659.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
要節省使用尤其是這個沒宣會這個預算身為立法委員也有義務也有責任要替人民來看緊荷包因為政府為了增進社會大眾的整個施政的議題的了解那有辦理一些政策性業務這些宣導之必要但是為了避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2660.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2679.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
制度式的行銷維護整個行政的中立新聞自由以及人民權利的目的預算法第62條之一訂定之相關規範部分機關辦理媒體宣傳會宣導的話所制定的這個績效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2681.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2694.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
未能夠具體的衡量宣導的這個成效僅以產出量作為績效的一個指標那如新聞或貼文的數量活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2696.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2719.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
場次以及影片數量等往往這個整個政策宣導影片觀看數非常的低實在是很難看出他的宣導的一個成效那本席是希望行政院各部會跟主計總處要通盤的檢討整個沒宣會的績效指標不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2720.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2732.862 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
只把錢撒給媒體整個預算的執行就好了那更不要拍一些華人問津的這些影片或辦理整個活動只有小貓兩三隻來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2735.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2753.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
那我請問主計長你是我贊成將媒宣會的績效指標跟成果主動來公布在主計總署的網站上面的專區並按計送立法院來被查以利民眾來檢視整個媒宣會到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2755.173 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2779.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
動之的 得當不得當是 這個部分我們委員的建議我們會盡力來達成然後我們會把它公布在我們主計處的晚間對 一定要而且每一季都要公布我認為這是給民眾一個交代因為我們是身為監督政府各機關單位好 那你就每一季都要公布好 OK來 我請衛福部那個邱太元 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2781.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2787.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
衛福部的邱部長 邱部長衛福部的邱部長時間暫停一下好了 來邱部長來時間暫停了 時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2798.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2807.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
委員長部長我請教因為衛福部一二年度醫院護理服務的調查離職率以護理師的薪資呈現明顯互相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2814.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2838.278 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
及薪水越低而離職率越高改善護理人員薪資的條件以及提升護理人員留任的關鍵因素之一今年6月媒體報導三班的護病比首波獎勵金5.47億入帳有醫院拿到4千萬也有醫院拿到0其中因為我轄區裡面雙核醫院屬於為達標獎勵金為0的27間醫院之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2843.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2863.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
雙核醫院當然是我選區裡面鄉親很多都會去看診本期是希望說護理師的權利要保障以免影響整個病患的一些照護其實我一直認為主要最重要就是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2865.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2885.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
很多該給的你們都不給那造成現在這種狀況因為部長你有沒有什麼因為急診室貼出最近急診室還貼出說本急診目前的這個護病比1比13好 請你簡單回答好不好不耐久的話 甚至要進醫院這是很嚴重的問題好 我幾句話就好雙核醫院監護期 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2890.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2903.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
那個綜合融合非常重大的醫療也感謝政府跟還有我們當地委員的一個幫助讓他們承擔了很多那我們為了他的比例不過我們也有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2905.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2918.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
衛環 本縣的衛環也到那邊去視察他會在8月全部把三班護病比把他打到標我希望一定要達到急診的部分是因為沒有護病比但是我們人力一定讓他充足我們護理計畫 十二大計畫一定全力來支持 來推動感謝 感謝委員謝謝 我們現在來請吳秉立委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2960.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
主席麻煩請主席長 陳主席長好 來 陳主席長來主席長早 是今天為什麼要追加這麼多預算 講個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2964.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2988.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
當然我們有幾個主要有幾個新增項目那還有一個就是說當初刪減的部分我們我們主要是有三項一個原住民保留地進化補償的部分那還有提升國軍待遇的部分還有一個加強外交執行能量要增加還有一個就是我們原來立法院刪減然後影響地方還有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2989.321 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
3014.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
我們各部門那個施政的一個情形的一個希望能夠追加的部分了解這個是因為確實有需要所以要多增加這些支出啦但是就這兩天的媒體看到多數的藍白立委仍然磨刀霍霍要繼續砍那這個如果沒有通過會造成什麼影響呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
3016.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
3043.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
當然如果說有一些譬如說要做宣導的譬如我們主計總署五年才辦理一次的榮林普查的宣導會那這一次我們也是被減掉那我們還是有希望提出追加還有包括榮林普查相關的一個旅費也希望能夠恢復我不是只有問你主計處啦我不是只有問你主計處我是說這次的追加預算800多億如果沒有通過或是又被大量刪減你要怎麼處理啊會造成什麼結果啊 |
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3044.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
3063.98 |
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因為裡面有一個636億是屬於補助一般縣市政府的一個項目那裡面也有提升國軍的一個待遇還有加強外交執行能量的相關的一個經費所以這個部分呢都是影響到相當的一個權益包括縣市的一個執行 |
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我就沒有看到 我是說我這兩天的媒體看到藍白又在那邊談他們國會多數要談哪個預算又要大幅刪減那我現在上來問你說這個如果被大幅刪減會造成什麼影響結果你這個回答蒼白無力我們不能被刪減 刪減會對施政造成影響這個就是行政院的答覆嗎你想跟我講的只有這樣嗎 |
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那你不用讓國人知道說 這個刪減會對國家造成什麼樣的影響造成什麼樣的損害 會讓施政上面造成什麼樣的危機嗎還是我在替你們急 其實行政團隊不急你說什麼沒藥沒菌 沒粥沒粥 影響施政就這樣而已 |
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這裡面其實有一些譬如說像海委會它有一些相關一個船艦的一個稅休這些等等還有包括有一些農業部一些治山防火大規模奔踏地的一個防災的一個相關的一個經費那這個部分呢所以我們 |
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內政部還有包括生活圈一些道路系統的交通系統的一個建設等等這些所以我們認為這些都是非常重要的一個項目我們必須要辦理最佳非常重要只在這邊講就講這幾句現在的立法院已經跟以前不一樣了以前民進黨黨團要負責替你們開記者會替你們說明替你們怎樣行政團隊躲在哪裡現在行政團隊不講 |
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立法委員現在在野黨藍白加在一起是國會的多數坦白講今天預算要不要給你過喔他們細於餘念之間啦他們如果站在政治對立的立場喔你講的那個地方補助股給你過啦其他的不要給你過啦 那又怎麼樣所以你訴求的對象以及你要講給誰聽由誰來講 |
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那怎麼樣才能引起社會的重視這個很重要好不好請你們行政團隊好好思考一下謝謝接下來由陳廷輝陳委員謝謝主席我們請主計長陳主計長 |
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委員好 主席長其實今天要讓你講的就是說從過去我們每一次有所有的預算尤其在我們當時候一頒補助款的時候當時候國民黨的執政縣市首長怎麼說我們的針對這636億我們現在把它回編回來嘛那其他不用講國軍的部分重不重要很重要啊 |
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他都罵我們不重視國軍國軍很重要我們做了很多的加急所以這一次都全部把追加預算把它補進來禁法補償說很重要我們也是把它補進來啦然後外交中不重要很重要啊我們也是把它補進來啦然後中央對於地方的補助除了一般性補助還有中央對地方的補助我們這一次把它補回來啦 |
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那我們要看當時候國民黨的縣市首長怎麼說的我也希望在野黨的立委要看清楚這些縣市首長當時候怎麼說蔣萬安說我們拒絕讓中央這樣的宰割有沒有侯友宜說馬上依法將一般性補助款要回歸到地方要求中央政府 |
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張三振怎麼說說如果沒有這筆錢就要取債了盧秀燕怎麼說她說請中央歸還屬於地方的經費再來謝國良怎麼說他說會取債沒有這筆錢會取債黃明慧說這個部分會影響到地方政府處理社福教育基本建設的支出 |
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再來我們看到宜蘭代理縣長說這個有關民生社福重大建設所以要求中央要進步恢復剝副新竹縣怎麼說他說這個也對於地方人民影響很大會影響到地方政府的運作再來苗栗縣他說 |
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他現在已經沒辦法舉債了因為苗栗縣的預算是最糟糕的所以如果沒有這筆錢會舉債許淑華說這個部分呼籲行政院要正視地方財政的困境要盡速恢復撥款 |
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這個不是就藍營的縣市首長所說的嗎張立善怎麼說他說這個部分很重要因為水利救災防災如果沒有這筆錢鄉親會淹水重不重要很重要啊王惠美怎麼說她說希望行政院盡速撤銷原儲分恢復補助款這不就是縣市首長所說的嗎 |
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徐政委怎麼說 他說會舉債 沒有這筆錢會舉債姚慶林怎麼說 他說這個會造成整個包括長者重養禮金哇 把這筆錢講得好像神一樣所有的問題都在這筆錢所以如果沒有的話 台東縣的憲政無法推動 |
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都講得這麼嚴重連江縣說如果沒有的話還是要舉債你看中央過去給地方多少的恩惠我再次強調現在縣市的執政是藍營多於綠營我們從來沒有在針對這個部分去做任何的調整是因為這一次國民黨亂三預算 |
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把預算凍結把預算刪掉了你不得不你沒有辦法再做調整啦所以只好回補所以我覺得這一個追加預算完完全全是及時雨如果各縣市都這麼嚴重拜託我們在野黨的立委不要再阻擋了謝謝感謝接下來我們請賴世寶來到召委來 |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請主席長來 陳主席長 |
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委員好主席長你好我們根據財務法30條第三項補助款不得少於前一年的預算結果你們現在自己擴大解釋變成說是一個大水庫的概念結果說第一個你們要來跟我申請第二個我來決定要給多少 |
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你們這個辦法是這樣子來 竹記長你聽好了 竹記長聽好囉我現在已經提案正式把你的補助辦法改成條例 改成法律案改成法律案 |
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我不允許你等於你們的政治的手伸進來這裡面地方補助款你說我沒有比去年少可是你是一個大水庫的概念要給哪一個縣市多 給哪一個縣市少完全你就決定這裡面就有政黨考慮在裡面啦到時候我們看得到的話就會什麼 會 |
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綠的多 綠執政的縣市多藍之間的縣市少這個答案就會出來難怪今天蔣萬事長他就跑去行政院參加院會他要抗議你們這樣的一個方式這不是攬傘大水窟的概念這是對於各縣市我現在我們已經有提案了 |
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已經有提案了 只是還沒有 已經不違了 還沒有審現在是審的時候 我就加一個字就好了各縣市 中央政府對各縣市的地方補助款不得少於去年這樣就是什麼 |
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這樣子你就沒有亂搞的空間來你回應簡單30秒回應報告委員因為我們要拿4165億給地方了那我們縣市一般縣市補助要維持2500億然後縣市也 |
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也又要求說計劃型補助不能減少要按照以往的來列那以中央來講我如果通通這樣列我就超過我的舉債額度所以我本身這個部分我就沒有辦法自己妳的觀念要變一下啦 |
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編一下 你們過去來講中央地方的裁員75對25這是不同的 我們要改成6比4這個你接受了就可以了好了你請回答我跟妳講75裡面包括11%是省政府的部分那省政府的部分有將近4千億目前是在中央裡面來執行要給地方啦 那個要給地方所以那個業務應該要回轉給地方那如果這個不減的話 |
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業務你去處理給他 我沒有意見所以這個有一些部分是在一般性補助裡面我必須要做調整但是我反對你說這兩千多億結果都放在你手上還要跟你申請 你多大了不是申請 是按照財力級距來分配所以我們都會有更限制的財力級距我想請那個 |
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那個財政部的莊部長以及金管會的彭主委法務部的政部長好不好 三位長官來 三位部長來時間暫停喔給他們走路時間暫停一下來 停停停了委員好 |
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三位長官好啊我很快就一分鐘不到的時間宏德能源公司啊涉入光電的弊案了這裡面今年的它的光電儲冷今年3月新光銀行統籌主辦中小企銀安泰等11億的年代漁電共生去年5月份由兆豐銀主辦國際票券合庫 義銀 土銀等等70億的年代 |
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這裡面因為很多是公家銀行我怕單會侵害到我們的人民的權益所以我就一句話問兩位特別是兩位財政部的總部長以及金管委的彭主委你們能夠什麼時候可以提出一個報告好不好針對這個事情提出一個報告 |
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我們盡快回去了解以後我們提出報告兩個禮拜以內可以嗎兩個禮拜以內提出有關於這個連帶案的報告好不好因為這已經是涉入到弊案了再請那個防護部的鄭部長注意這件事情好 謝謝好 謝謝 |
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好 我們下一位請賴瑞榮委員質詢請四分鐘了好 謝謝昭緯我請主記長 陳主記長跟金管會的彭主委彭主委 請 |
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我先請教一下主計長主席好這次的追加預算878億但是現在有傳出來說如果要刪掉113億如果這樣刪的話會造成什麼樣的影響 |
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這裡面因為我們878億扣除636就是一般性的補助款之外然後再來就是我們那個原民會的進華補償那還有一個國軍加薪的59億所以它主要的一個項目如果扣除之後呢那有很多大的一個項目是 |
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部會他覺得困難然後要想申請能夠追加的一個部分因為這裡面當初在總預算在刪減的時候他刪減的一個百分比過高第二個他指定刪減之後又不得流用所以造成在執行上所以這兩個因素導致所以我們現在提出來那追加預算裡面有很多也都是基本上包括地方政府的需要甚至於國軍的甚至於外交甚至於軍公教的一些需要 |
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所以應該是不要設定它的額度應該是就實際上面該給的就給 該刪的就刪我覺得這樣來討論應該是比較我們期盼朝野的立委大家理性來討論不要設定一個額度該刪的就刪 該給的就給以國家整體的發展需要為整體思考謝謝委員主席長 謝謝再要請教一下彭主委 |
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現在其實大家也高度在關心住房者的一些房貸的問題之前我有找過來談過首購族跟換屋自住族跟整個已經取得銀行承諾的貸款額度的這些不會受到影響吧主委要說明一下我們現在在全力的在處理這件事情希望我們的銀行針對這三個自住首購跟以何貸的部分我們確保民生需要 |
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這個要確保不要造成民心的一個恐慌因為首購包括自住包括已經獲得承諾這個部分他們相對的權益是要給予保障的但是我們來看一下其實就整個購置住宅貸款的餘額比較裡面 |
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公股銀行 大多數但還是持續的成長出來貸款持續的成長反倒是民間的銀行整個都降低了主委 顯然是有些本來民間銀行該貸款出去了反倒現在轉到公股銀行去了主委有什麼樣的看法來處理這件事情 |
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其實跟委員報告本來這個房貸的部分關股本來就是主要的他們主要是大宗民營的銀行除了少部分大部分做這個部分的比例都不如關股當然關股在做還有一些政策貸款的部分在內啦我想他們的水位確實比較高 |
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我希望主委要去協助啦好不好讓這個必要的一些貸款的部分這個當然打房要進行但是對於一般的貸款特別是首購自住的這些或清安的部分不要讓他們權益受到影響這我們全力來處理我們現在也請也請受請公司他們也有一些部分的資金也會來投入那再來是很多的自住型的貸款它的成數降低了原來本來貸到七八成後來因為這個影響而降到了六成多這個部分主委有沒有什麼樣處理的方案 |
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這個其實主要是另外一個就是我們的信用管制的部分那金管會這邊主政的是我們722條的那個所謂的有關流動性比例的上限的問題 |
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我希望接下來有些協助因為有些可能涉及到內政部有些涉及到其他部會的部分我希望整體一體來思考不要讓整體的一些特別是親安或首購的或者是自助的權益受到一些影響最後我問一個銀行有用拉長審查的時間來變相拒戴這件事情有沒有這樣的事情的發生 |
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其實跟委員報告我們有事其實最近我們有密集的去了解因為銀行主要是他們比如說他有分行非常的多每個分行都有額度那其實上他們額度在最近如果比較快接近他們內控的上限的時候他們就會控管所以在會有一些排隊的情形我希望主委注意這件事情不要讓他變相的成為一個拉長貸款的時間 好不好好 謝謝賴委員的質詢下一位請郭國文委員質詢 請 |
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主席有請文化部李遠部長 速發部葉林志文化部的李部長 速發部的葉次長速發部的長官來 請然後還有包括我們立法院的周安來秘書長立法院的周秘書長 請我先請李遠部長 李遠部長 |
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在2016年的時候尼泊爾颱風的時候它衝擊了台灣包括有一些文史的資料損失非常的龐大當初的文化部長鄭麗君部長馬上要求文化部跟市府來做一個合作的盤點修復同樣的狀況這次丹麗斯颱風也遇到類似的狀況後來又有西南氣流目前台南總共需要有57處的申請修復 |
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目前你這個文化部在緊急預算的部分大概有3億之多但是以家裡的遊變局這長期本期非常關心還有包括王玉德的基金會淹水都非常嚴重而且事後要說要搬遷這個部長這個部分以文化歷史古都深隔的台南市是不是應該多照顧一點部長請回答是 昨天剛好我們也通過一個風災的條例從風災以來我們其實 |
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完全掌握每一個縣市的那個被毀損的情況把它分等級是那我想台南嘉義這幾個點是非常所以應該優先處理嘛因為畢竟是災區嘛其實我們已經組成一個專業團隊到每個地方去配合地方政府去了解但是在這一次的追加預算當中你以貴部的業務費 |
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以一般的經常門並沒有以資本門為主以本席的選區當中當初有一個典藏中心一億元被誤三惡三的情況底下你這一次也沒有恢復啊是那怎麼辦典藏中心跟那個災後的那個兩個預算是不相同的對啊那你應該去想辦法在這次提出你這次沒有提出啊 |
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有追加預算的時候你為什麼不提出呢其他的部門 資本部門 資本門都有提出你為什麼不提出呢是不是代表你不重視你們好好想一想這一點要如何補救好不好是 沒問題接下來我們請蘇發布 葉刺 |
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葉刺 前幾天我有跟幾位委員召開Meta現在大屠殺的狀況我們現在幾乎無法隔管當初你們的署長說交叉檔要對中六點這六點當中不關是判定AI的準稅率也好或者最重要違規適由的明確化對當事人的權益保障也好我請問一下交叉檔有個狀況其他這六點做到了沒有 |
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跟委員報告就是說我們大概目標是跟委員的情形是一樣就是說針對Meta它對於這個使用者的這個處理那我們希望它透明度能夠更提高然後它的這個我問你這六點做得怎麼樣啦你跟他解釋那麼多持續在跟這個Meta持續說這六點你照三張都不夠照三張都不夠可能要加一個消夜啦我看 |
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我們不光是跟台灣這邊來溝通我們已經請Meta要跟總部強加處理台灣的使用者權益的問題我搞不好你們次長還要飛到美國我們這沒有牽扯到數位稅的問題只是基本使用者的權益保障的問題而已你們這搞了沒有辦法搞出來就是關鍵的問題在你們沒有法律授權你們應該推出數位服務法你們整個書發布的定位就錯誤只是在做產業推廣而不盡情管理進行輔導 |
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把當成民間單位卻享用政府的資源哪有這種回事啊你認為那個數位服務法要不要推數位服務法部分過去NCC有研擬所謂數位中介你不要再推給NCC了啦你你數碼不那麼多錢NCC不那麼多人給你你乾脆廢掉好了啦你要跟我講NCC那個部分我們會跟NCC一起謀求社會你搞不清楚狀況外界的期待跟譴責都搞不清楚回去啦下去啦我們請那個周秘書長 |
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三次立法院的國會交流經費暴增2599萬那次我們有統三之後你現在又回增回來又多了1200多萬總共來說還是暴增了2000多萬 |
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最近我們國會內部紛爭這麼多真的有時間去做國會外交你們重點回答一下就好因為時間快到現在目前我們八百萬已經花了七百九十九萬所以我們必須要把回顧這一千兩百萬進來因為我們九月份有兩個團要去編六千多萬 |
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好 謝謝再跟他說明好 謝謝下一位請林思明委員質詢請好 謝謝主席先請主計長還有財政部長主計長財政部長兩位長官請 |
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主委長 部長兩位好先問主委長因為財化法的修法所以行政院先前打算統三今年地方的一般性補助款25% |
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那麼卓院長在今年的5月23號還特別對外強調中央政府不是魔術師不會變魔術也不會無中生有因此地方政府可以先行用稅計勝於舉債因應明年再依照新版的財化法去償還舉債但是我們看一下螢幕這兩張卓院長你看得出來這兩張有什麼蹊蹺你看得出來嗎 |
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或許你看不出來我是照你寫的其實這兩張表格的意思就是代表說政府從一開始就是在用不實的一個話術在威脅各地方政府明明你就無需另籌裁員你看你這邊寫你無需另籌裁員 |
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就可以來支付直轄縣市的政府的一般性補助款這636億但主計總署你卻是配合行政院一路在雙簧演出主計長你身為國家最高的主計機關 |
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你这样子的一个这样子的一个做法配合行政院违法的去这个删减各地方政府的地方性补助款你认为你这样做对吗没有 这主要是因为当初要通案删减949嘛主席长 通案39有删这个一般性补助款吗这2500多有被删吗 |
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他说要我们自行删减但是我们那个通案的项目都已经删减每个有的百分之六十也有八十以上的部分所以没有办法再删减你现在推加进来你根本没有另筹裁员吗不是我们当初不是说裁员的问题而是我们没有办法删减的空间是没有删减的空间其实署长 |
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你這個邏輯不通啦所以其實你這樣扭曲財化法修法的正當性你應該把政府真實的一個財政狀況告訴大家總預算明明增加這麼多增加了一千多億將近兩千億你還可以去勤勒地方政府我就要刪你的一般性補助款如果那個時候你記得嗎不是跟你們講嗎趕快追加預算嘛 |
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你就说你可以用追加预算的方式但是你擒勒地方政府告诉他们说我要删你的地方的一般性补助款现在你又倒过头来说我用追加预算的方式不是 按照道理我们统三的预算给它增加回去所以我的意思是要告诉你不要用这种方式来好像要擒勒我们要把这636亿要给你通过 |
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我想當初邱永清明確告訴你們你不要等到大罷免大失敗之後你才做這個事情把原本你就應該做的你一直拖到現在你才做所以當時就要跟大家講清楚說明白你們會透過追加預算的方式來做嗎不是去把它扣除我們地方政府的一般性補助款嗎這樣做違法你知道嗎你沒有依法行政我告訴你好了夠了已經跟你講很清楚了請財政部 |
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委員好部長你在週一的時候8月25發新聞稿提到說新版財政收支劃分法因為分配的公式不合理所以可能我們這個統籌分配稅款無法全數分配是不是這樣 |
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跟委員報告對公視的這個爭議的問題有三項我們在法案通過的時候記者會也提出但是在三個問題裡面兩個都已經地方政府有共識另外一個法條因為是白紙黑字寫的這個部分財政部沒有權責去擴權謝謝再跟民委員報告等一下書面跟我答覆好 下一位請李坤哲委員質詢 |
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很抱歉這個各位請諒解因為今天還要處理機密預算機密的詢問所以還有處理預算所以很抱歉好謝謝請一下內政部內政部的劉部長請劉部長慢慢走沒關係 |
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委員好部長好內政部2024到2027有個永續提升人行安全計畫是它包括六大的工程的這樣一個推動的方案本來是軍費大概是48億本次也追加大概1000萬左右 |
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作为计划的修正以及工程的相关的督导考核以及材料试验的这些经费的来源那我们看整个计划推动的过程不知道我们还是有几个地方要来做检讨例如说我们看 |
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中央與地方的權責問題我們看到補助的進度其實我認為是落後了各縣市政府核准的件數其實落差蠻大的那總共第三次的補助基金會 |
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4739.828 |
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第三次的補助計畫他核定了172案大概經費是31億但是各縣市政府核檢核准的件數標準是有點差距另外地方的提案 |
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跟中央的要求的標準其實是有差距的導致這一些地方縣市政府核准的建築跟它通過了這樣推動的這樣一個施策其實都嚴重的落後另外就是各縣市政府 |
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他的地方政府的協調其實有很大的問題這幾乎是一個結構性的問題地方政府他自己的協調性有問題的時候在推動計畫當然就會有差距另外就是他們所提出的 |
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这些提案它的标准跟中央要求的不一致之外我们中央政府自己的协调其实包含经济部交通部内政部其实协调还是都有一定的这样的一个停滞必须要检讨的这些部分我想部长也清楚我们在推动这个永续提升整形安全计划这是要必须去注意的 |
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因為時間的關係我們來簡單提一下說目前我們人行道的普及率的現況全國的普及率大概是47.5%其實全國有超過一半以上的縣市它相關的人行道的普及率是遠低於45% |
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另外區域的落差也很大新竹有82.6%但是金門只有9.8%那都市的舊區 |
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它空间不足 其实哪里设置这个人行道这也是一个问题偏乡地区它因为低人口密度人行道的改善也并不是地方政府它优先要去推动的一个项目另外国土规划跟道路的思维仍然是偏重这种重机 |
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的車輛的這樣一個優先的狀況人行道覆蓋不足設計不友善另外對車輛的高容量高容納的設計也容易導致超速的風險這個部長我們設計應該是要保障 |
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人行的這種安全跨部門的協調我認為是必須要強化中央各部位以及中央跟地方政府的協調另外我們要從使用面的這樣一個需求去切入並不是說一直要車道拓寬或是傳統的耗制的設置而已 |
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更重要的是要以數據事故分析為核心來驅動改變來 部長簡單讓你補充一下謝謝委員一直在關心這個永續提升人行您講的都是重點那我稍微再做一下很簡單的回覆也就是說行政院已經完成799處行人義照式入口但是有一部分就是到8月底的時候我們核定643件有關於永續人行行道的部分目前 |
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雖然合訂的中央經費是高達115億但是目前只有完成35案那您講到中央跟地方或者是說包括公務 教育 交通以及地方政府的部分好 那我再用書面跟委員來做一下回答好 謝謝李委員的諮詢好 現在要請李博議委員諮詢 |
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謝謝 我有請主計長 內政部副部長海委會管組委還有行政院代表行政院的副秘書長委員好 |
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主席長今天追加預算因為被統刪不少於939億那後來刪了地方一般補助款636億今天提出878億的追加預算裡面有包含我剛剛請這幾位部長上台的這些相關的預算我想要拜託各位不要用數字去喊不要用 |
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我133億我只要給你幾億去喊我想要拜託各位比如說海委會 |
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5031.598 |
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5055.705 |
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台委會這次提出來的有幾個一共有13億裡面的7億還是一樣我們要交新建沒有辦法交這個如果不過的話一樣嘛我們非常需要這筆預算追加回來我們還有軍職同仁8000多個軍職同仁的加薪5.9億另外我跟委員報告即使是沒宣費用 |
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我們都是海巡署招募所需我們要招募海巡署的軍職的志願役我們真的沒有梅軒的聲音出去所以梅軒不是惡 |
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在海委會這邊即使是沒宣的預算我們都很希望能夠得到支持那我們的電費還有裝備是還有兩艘艦艇我們船的這個預算造艦的預算所以如果今天只給地方額636億沒有給海委會的話我認為這是不合理啦那我請顧部長國防部也提出來國防部提出來的追加預算裡面 |
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維持一般行政運作4.多億跟國軍加薪59億如果只有加薪59億沒有國軍基本維持運作的4.4億是不是都不要所有軍社裡面冷氣電電燈等等設備都不用開了 |
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跟委員報告我們這次提出來的63億的追加主要的部分在有50幾億的部分都是因應4月志願役跟戰鬥部隊加急6月的網路戰加急跟7月的電增跟戰航管的加急的部分 |
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其他的部分主要在於有一些當時通山的部分表示不可以留用因此我們出國的訓練費用還有相關國內演訓所需要的這些旅費部分因為不得留用的關係我們因此沒有辦法依照既有的演訓計畫來進行相關的出國的訓練以及國內的演訓 |
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5165.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
5190.836 |
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都是國軍基本運作維持需要的接下來請內政部劉部長劉部長請國土署跟警政署這一次分別也提出包含生活圈道路這是都是各位委員選區生活圈所必須要運用到的生活圈道路也追加了4億另外警政署在網路打炸的部分網路精進的部分也增加了4億我想 |
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面對這個生活圈道路就跟我有關係啦我們新台17線南段我們也希望最後的這個一億多也可以納入這個追加的部分讓內政部可以跟高雄市政府共同協力來完成新台17線最南段的這個部分還有剛剛講的行人永續安全空間的這一部分我們都希望內政部跟國土署跟地方政府可以確實的來完成這相關的如果沒有過的話是不是 |
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某些道路會少了這些 |
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道路的經費是謝謝李委員的關心確實沒有錯我們希望追加28億裡面大概有15億左右呢全部都是地方政府包括永續人行安全還有生活圈道路那再加上說我們在打乍上面的一個網路流量記錄器加在一起大概是20億左右所以拜託聯席委員會看看計畫內容看看預算內容不要先設建劃把不要只有636億會通過好謝謝李委員的執行現在要請黃國昌委員執行 |
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5272.01 |
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來謝主席麻煩有請最高檢察署檢察總長邢太昭法務部部長法務部政部長國家安全會副秘書長國安會的副秘書長農業部部長農業部的陳部長 |
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這跟剛剛委員報告這個檢查總長這一部分這個我剛才也講到了有要追加預算的我們都有發開會通知他不到也不請假這個我們沒辦法接受他們的預算我們就不予處理召委對不起我確認一下檢查總長沒有來是不是他沒有來沒看到也沒有請假來了嗎沒有看到 |
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5329.96 |
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5331.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
在一個民主法治國家當中行政部門的預算由國會來加以審議 |
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國會審議了以後行政部門就應該要依照國會審議的結果來執行預算這個是天經地義民主憲政的ABC從來沒有看過一個行政部門膽大妄為道國會審完 刪掉的預算全部追加可以補回來連立法院的預算中心都直接講了立法院刪了以後 |
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半數主管機關迴遍率高達三成以上其中迴遍率最高的包括內政部95.4海委會84.2外交部72.4來先請教法務部部長啊依照預算法的規定什麼時候可以辦理追加預算這一次辦理追加預算的法源依據是什麼預算法49條第一項第三款是嗎不要拖時間啦只有四分鐘 |
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5415.97 |
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5436.084 |
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如果連自己追加預算的法源都不清楚的話還站在備詢台上對 79條79條第幾款第三款第三款大聲唸給大家聽79條第三款對 大聲唸給大家聽79條第三款怎麼規定的這部分 |
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5438.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5446.749 |
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這份就是第三款規定各機關所辦事業因重大事故經費超過因為什麼重大事故經費超過法定預算什麼重大事故什麼現在部長又故技重施站在備詢台上面不講話混時間就可以什麼重大事故 |
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5464.571 |
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回答不出來的話今天法務部辦的追加預算欠缺法源基礎全部退回去根本不用省啦什麼重大事故哪門子重大事故這個這個預算就是沒辦法符合現在業務的一個需求造成所以這樣叫做重大事故喔如果國會刪掉了以後可以透過追加預算補回來的話預算法79條形同句文整條廢掉 |
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整條廢掉或者是看民進黨黨團還是行政院要推動修法預算法79條 多一款啦如果經過國會刪除過的我們還可以再追加回來否則就是違法亂紀胡搞瞎搞來 請國安會國安會很奇怪 |
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5514.451 |
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5533.554 |
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去年的時候我把你們國安會副秘書長副首長的專用預算給刪掉了追加預算要回邊回來喔蛤你們國安會在追加預算說明說什麼很重要啊國家安全啊 |
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5534.778 |
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5556.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
真正涉及國家安全的你們的秘書長司法法治委員會請他幾次來用納稅人的錢養共諜啊這才是國家安全啊真正國家安全的事情不處理結果很緊急啊 很重要啊我們的副首長沒有買新的專用車啊對得起納稅人嗎這種預算都敢送出來 |
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5565.762 |
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5595.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
以為我們都不會開預算書喔把國會當笨蛋啊把納稅人當盤子啊真正國家安全的事情不管罪該負共諜案責任的繼續窩在國安會裡面 國會也不敢來但是 拜託給我們錢啊我們副首長一定要有專用車啊沒有專用車的話台灣的國家安全會遭遇重大威脅啊 |
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5620.391 |
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一樣 來請檢察中長不好意思 我最後一個問題就好了最簡短的回答檢察中長 你是法律人我相信你對預算法的解讀不會像鄭明謙一樣不會像鄭明謙一樣這麼可笑你們出國考察的費用去年給你刪一部分 |
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5621.79 |
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5647.574 |
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廣宣的費用法務部各個部門給你們三億部分結果呢廣宣的費用全部給我填回來然後出國考察的費用在邊好 請你很簡短的回答好不好時間到了來 請沒有關係啦我不為難他我也不耽誤其他委員的時間我要鄭重的講什麼其他部會鬼混就算了法務部最高檢察署全部都是念法律的 |
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法條的構成要件都不合廣泉費被刪掉 補回來考察的費用被刪掉 補回來這個預算我絕對不會同意好 謝謝那就不用回答好 謝謝謝謝建制黨總長我們下一位請柯志文委員執行 請謝謝莊委我們是不是先請陳主席長 |
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5680.097 |
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5697.666 |
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那個黃國昌委員回來一下委員好主席長好我想我還是要特別問到預算法第79條根據你的法律專業你的這個專業來說這次追加預算到底是它的合理性跟它的正當性到底符合79條的哪一個要件 |
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5700.411 |
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这个部分有一部分譬如说我们的原民会的净化补偿它是依照符合哪一个四款里面哪一个要件我告诉你这是每个人都要去追问就是它的释法性的问题因为你这次预算你这次预算高达878亿元其中最大比的636亿元它是一般性补助款已经条文明明告诉你它就是一个法律性的义务的支出而且已经三度通过总统公告了那你现在要把它追加回来 |
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5729.088 |
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5738.435 |
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我個人覺得這就好像是你把地方真的是把他先餓死了再給他糖吃或者是你先揍一頓再給他貼布一樣這對我們來說這是一個違法的一件事情好那現在因為地方政府嗷嗷待哺也不想讓他們為難所以有可能在這六三六一當中我們把他補回來但是我只要請問這個組計長那原本要求你們去做自行調整刪減的這個項目到底在哪裡 |
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5757.35 |
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5778.596 |
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給你追加回去那你原來本來是叫你要來做你到底放在哪裡本來是3減939嘛那我們3減了939沒有 這631到底調整放在哪裡哪一個調整631 6361可能立法院會把它追加通過但是這個本來就叫你要自行調整的你的項目是放在什麼地方一般縣市補助的部分 |
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5779.113 |
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5793.287 |
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你應該放到什麼地方我的時間的關係我要求主計長你必須要把你自行調整刪減的部分一定要有一份報告告訴我們這是我們的天職要來監督你這個部分調節的部分在什麼地方剛出通案刪減939那我們除了刪減304億之外現在636就是沒有辦法刪減所以才會 |
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5827.046 |
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好吧沒有辦法深言不分你條例給我嘛我只能告訴你這6361因為地方的需求我們要我只要奉勸主席長真的心中要有主計不能只有算計這是非常非常重要的最重要是我們從來沒有算計過我們是依法行事你沒有完全沒有依法因為過去這整個條文過來好那主席長你先暫時留著我是不是時間暫停我們請那個我們的李紀勇我們的中選會的李紀勇好中選會的李主委時間暫停了他走路時間來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
5833.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
5855.999 |
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也請主席長一起主席長也一起委員好是 這一次我們的公投將罷免共計花了15億4,324萬其中大部分的部分這個錢都是由我們的第二預備金來支出嗎 沒有錯吧公投跟罷免都是第二預備金嗎 什麼時候通過的什麼時候已經給了你的預備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
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5866.495 |
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都已經撥了8月15號都已經撥了錢也用完了那我請問這次追加預算當中為什麼中選會還是一模一樣的還是BNA的1514324錢不都用完了嗎還剩下4個月的時間目前還剩下4個月的時間你們追加這筆預算是要幹嘛告訴我們發明還有7個委員沒有經過還要來做這樣的事嗎 |
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5880.572 |
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5897.516 |
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我跟委員報告因為這一次申請動資二倍金達到15億多了我知道所以我只告訴你你為什麼還要追加你錢都花了為什麼追加預算中選會還要編這筆預算理由在哪裡因為它對於行政院二倍金的影響非常的大 |
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5915.729 |
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那是行政院的二倍金二倍金本來就是要做天災人禍殘養二倍金就沒有錯嘛那因為我們佔的比例太大百分之二十還是一樣嘛那會影響到行政院動這個二倍金行政院把你的這個中選會還放在你們這個項目本身來說就是有問題因為你中選會本身不需要另外額外來做除非你剩下四個月時間 |
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5922.714 |
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如果大院支持我們用追加的方式的話那我們會把這15億歸電給行政院的二倍金歸電給行政院二倍金這就是你們挪來挪去是違反這個所謂的這個紀律問題嘛挪過來挪過去那我只問主計長下一次我們如果還有罷免還有這個公酬的話你是放在什麼地方是放在第二預備金還是放在追加預算裡主計長回答這個問題 |
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5947.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
5960.329 |
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好 最後一個問題要不要回答時間到了不過時間來得及我們就不然追加如果來不及還是必須動第二預備金那要看你時間的一個這個東西我挪過來弄過去錢昆大模擬本身對我們來說這就是財政紀律上需要被檢討的啦謝謝喔簡單來講錢用完了就用完了吧不用再追加來下一位請萬美玲委員質詢請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
5988.013 |
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好 謝謝主席我們先有請那個陳淑芝主記長那為了節省時間我就比較不好意思我們請那個李遠部長一起上來李遠部長請對 謝謝 |
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6020.76 |
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委員好好 主席長好我想請教一下我們在114年的預算提案中有沒有任何一案是刪減地方政府一般性補助款的有還是沒有沒有 但是問題它有公案刪減要我們自行刪減636如果沒有刪減地方一般性補助款但是今年你去扣減地方一般性補助款636億我想我們實在覺得是非常沒有道理那我們來看依照現行中央對直轄縣市政府補助的辦法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
6021.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
6031.892 |
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如果你要去刪減對地方的補助款不是不可以但是必須要在條件之下才能來做我想現在我們來看一下主席長應該也非常清楚我們在相關辦法當中第12條跟第13條的規定 |
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要以下四種情況中央才能夠扣減我們的補助款包括地方政府如果在年度的總預算最佳預算跟特別預算的收支的籌劃編制跟共同的這個費用標準沒有依照相關法律等等辦法去籌編那麼我們可以扣減第二如果 |
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這個有依法得徵收制裁員而不徵收這也是第二個條件第三個 未依財政收支劃分法跟相關法律規定負擔因負擔之經費 第三項第四項 未依地方制度法規定支付被那個代行處理因負擔的費用要有符合以上四點不是不能扣減 可以扣減但我就請教主計長那我們現在各縣市政府是違反以上四項哪一項 |
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上面的事項主要是因為它是一種考核的一個辦法考核辦法裡面規定你有違反沒有 我就請教你有沒有違反嘛主席長 我想喔今天時間很有限啦 |
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他要求我們自行刪減自行刪減我們今天並沒有刪到地方政府一般性的補助款你這樣去為難地方政府就是不對那如果我們都沒有違反以上任何一款的規定那你不可以這樣去做那麼同時我想主計總署你在編列114年中央政府總預算書的時候也發文給立法院我們都知道在法律義務上面這些支出其實你不可以去刪減 |
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你沒有依據你想刪就刪想轉嫁就轉嫁我想我們要提出最大的一個抗議另外我們可以看到以本席的選區是我們的桃園區你現在扣了這個扣減636億地方性一般的補助款 |
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那你怎麼分配的我們可以看到你以上面來看平均大概27%我們桃園其實過去一般性補助款已經是六度最低了這一次還被這個比例上是27.3%其實我真的覺得是非常的欺負我們桃園235萬的這個民眾所以我想這邊跟主計長講 |
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無論這個追加預算現在後面是什麼狀況有沒有這個追加預算立法院在8月1號已經通過決議要行政院要把這個扣減地方一般性補助款要立即租來這個撥補地方我希望主席長要能夠去做到接下來我想剩下的時間我請教一下我們李遠部長 |
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其實延續一樣 我想地方經費上的不足部長您還記得吧 去年的時候我們有一起到桃園市勘察我們的美術館 對不對是在當時您也看到這個美術館對桃園市非常重要但過去因為一些減相工程的一些經費不足的問題很多的問題在裡面所以我們希望用等比例 |
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那文化部一樣給我們桃園市的美術館來支持當時你也承諾了但現在你卻要求我們這個地方政府自行籌編我想時間也算很有限我只跟部長講這一點我們不能接受第一個政治誠信第二個美術館卻有所需第三個 |
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我想這個美術館未來對我們美術的各方面的也幫助助益很大我們希望部長是不是在會後你能夠找一個時間到我辦公室來做說明該給予桃園市補助的一塊錢都不要少 好嗎好 會後跟黃委員的說明好 我會後下一位請鄭振銓委員質詢 請 |
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謝主席 因為今天時間很短所以我就想我今天準備三個題目把會問到的幾個首長就一起請上來請內政部 外交部外交部部長出國所以次長來 請然後再請一下我們農業部跟教育部農業部陳部長 教育部鄭部長然後我們的主席長跟我們的中選會主委中選會的李主委 |
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謝謝因為今天總預算的追加部分我想說有幾個地方想跟大家聚焦我想第一個問題的時候我先問一下內政部長因為內政部是這一次我們整個追加預算當中迴遍率最高的部分迴遍率最高整個總圖 |
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表出來這次迴遍率最高的前五個單位是內政部 海委會 外交部 環境部跟農業部內政部的迴遍率最高高達95.4%那就是表示說我們之前在審預算當中的立法院的審預權的時候在這一次內政部的一個追加預算過程當中的時候 |
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感覺是被立法院的審議權被踐踏了所以但是我想先請一下內政部長針對這個迴編的比率高達95.4%的時候做個簡單的一個回應好不好好 謝謝委員的關心其實我們剛剛有提過我們的總追加是28.8億 |
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那裡面有15億幾乎都是用在地方縣市政府包括人行道的安全還有生活圈道路那其中除了這個以外大概就是在打炸的部分打炸包括我們的網路流量紀錄器還有允宣費大概是5億所以加在一起大概是20億左右那如果說是這樣的情況的時候我們之前立法院在審的部分那就等於是沒有太大的效用我們在委員會的時候有充分討論過但是在院會的時候沒有被充分討論過 |
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好 謝謝部長我現在想請教一下外交部因為外交部在這一次的時候回變數也很高它增變數這邊高達11億我想特別問一下因為在這個11億當中的時候他就簡單講到一個未鞏固跟擴展邦交 |
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那我想請教一下因為現在剩下九十十一十二月剩下四個月的一個時間我們在這邊追加這個項目當中的時候我想說最主要是要用在什麼地方是要鞏固什麼樣的邦誼沒有辦法到明年的就是公務預算當中去編列嗎 |
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報告委員 拓邦是隨時在產生的我可以跟委員報告我個人現在也在處理很多拓邦的事情拓邦要跟對方協商的時候我總要跟對方講我口袋有些條件跟他協商所以這個是我們主要用但是這次增加了很大一部分也是在健保的就是外交人員的健保這是到今年才出來的 |
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外交人員健保的部分對 健保有國家付所以這今年出來這去年沒有辦法編進去其實這11億當中很大一部分是在外交人員健保的部分嗎兩億兩億是外交人員健保那跟鞏固跟擴展邦交當中的時候會不會跟我們的邦交的增加或減少有關 |
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有抱歉沒聽清楚我們要追加這11億會不會跟我們的邦交的增加或者是減少有關我們在努力在這方面真的有在努力我本身有在處理這個問題裡面有榮邦計畫還有一筆錢那個1億是外管租金的增加就現在整個環境通貨膨脹使得外管的租金必須增加 |
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OK 這部分的細節再請外部再到本辦公室這邊來做個說明因為時間這非常有限我想接下來我想問的部分的時候是有關於沒宣費的一個增加的一個部分因為這一次的沒宣費增加的時候大概有九成大概都增加四成九成以上的單位都增加回變到四成我想先請一下農業部因為當時我們就是 |
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因為限制性招標比重太高跟集中在特定的廠商所以我們當時就是砍了農業部的一些預算那我們現在迴編在39.98的部分的時候我想說迴編的理由在哪裡那我們接下來的部分在執行的時候是不是再繼續採取限制性招標 |
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我跟委員說明就有關煤炫費的部分我們這次追加了兩千多萬那最主要是其實我們看到的現在目前很多災區受到非常嚴重的影響這些農產品已經變貴了那很多我們很擔心我們的消費者因為國產品變貴以後去轉成國外品所以我們會加大因為時間有限我想請教育部教育部這邊也到時候再給本辦公室做一個說明就是我們到時候煤炫費回編的很高的部分 |
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然後另外就是中選會的部分因為中選會原本在時間到了中選會的部分再請到辦公室來講一下沒宣費的部分中選會教育部看到鄭委員的辦公室說明了好 謝謝下一位請洪孟凱委員質詢 |
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來 主席謝謝抓緊時間我們請主記長主記長請先請主記長 來 |
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主計長那麼多的一個部會大家也都關心所謂的回編率的部分本席在前天也講過今年會是史上預算被刪減之後回編率追加預算最高的一個會期那我請教預算的一個流程很多人可能還是不清楚就說在編列預算的時候各部會報進來主計處是不是已經要先做一些把關 |
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不可能說每一個部會報出來的預算都通過所以主計處就先做把關有一些預算可能真的財源不足也會退回各部會 是不是這樣子是好 所以現在我們所謂的迴編我們看到你們講的是說一定要這麼多的預算就是當初主計處這邊有做一些把關 |
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不是 这回变率的部分是针对总预算里面它被删减那因为删减今年有指定删减然后还有不可以留用那这样造成执行的困难所以才要来办理追加那追加的让他的一个业务能够推展顺利本席现在要问的是说你在送出来每年的总预算都有先做一个把关你才会到时候送出总预算来立法院审查对不对 |
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是嗎是好來那本席除了對今年追加預算我們可以再持續討論的話更重要很多人在關心啊就我們已經通過的職業軍人的一個加薪以及警察人士條例警察人士條例的退府不管是警察消防的退府的相關的條例的一個預算什麼時候通過的35條去年通過的對不對是 |
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那我想請教在明年的總預算裡面送出來並沒有把警察人士條例以及職業軍人加薪放進去那是內政部 國防部這組織單位他們沒有編還是主席處把他們擋掉 |
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這個部分因為行政院已經提釋憲這個部分他提釋憲又提暫刑處分所以這個部分我們就是等釋憲的結果然後依照釋憲結果來編列我知道現在看到釋憲但是本席現在要問的是當初內政部跟國防部沒有把這個預算放進去還是你主席處把它擋掉 |
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我們也沒有權利把他擋掉這個部分涉及到重大因為他本身要申請釋憲你剛才講要把關啊本席現在站在這邊以及所有部會大家都過來本席也要為立法院的尊嚴來捍衛本席也要為我們辛苦的國軍我們的警察消防同仁來捍衛就說很多人在講啊明明去年上個會期35條人事條例就通過了 |
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退休金的退府的機制結果你行政部門民進黨政府可以那麼傲慢的不尊重立法院的一個決議明年的預算不編還說現在要做申請釋憲但是行政院是大法官嗎 |
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你如果說有相關的一個部分你照理講不是應該是先依法行政先編列如果說未來真的事情有什麼狀況再去說回而不是你現在不編列然後要等到法院憲法法庭的一個審理之後才來做嘛不是嗎 |
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所以很多人才講啊所以很多人才講說如果說是在提起釋憲的話我們認為你看你又扯另外一個議題了嘛我現在在講的是說如果說有人認為我繳稅是違憲我申請繳稅釋憲那我可以在釋憲結果還沒有出來前我不繳稅嗎可以嗎 |
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這是財政部的一個問題又推給財政部了不是 主席長你今天在這邊我們今天討論除了追加預算追加預算你們很大的一個理由是因為你們認為說之前行政部門都已經審理過了我們預算有支出必較所以即便立法部門把你們刪除了你們還要再把他給搶回來要把他要回來 |
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那現在本席一樣問的是如果說明年的預算你的職業軍人的一個加薪以及警察人士條例的相關的退付這個是國軍弟兄跟警察消防的不要說救命錢啦根本就是他們的退休金他們最基本的保障立法民進黨政府現在可以傲慢到不編列 |
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私底下請主席長做調整私底下請主席長再來說明好 謝謝我們議題我會再追謝謝我們下一位請張志龍委員質詢好 謝謝主席各位委員 各位官員大家早有請主席長好 主席長請 |
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委員好主席長好今天討論的是有關於追加預算不過最近還是要跟主席長講說您辛苦了最近不管是追加預算我們中央各部會的預算以追加完了以後也是超過三兆也是史上的新高尤其最近因應美國關稅跟風災天災等等的影響 |
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我們也追加了特別預算不管是大家看到因應美國關稅追加了大概五千七百億風災六百億以及這一次的八百七十八億的追加預算總共的追加預算已經高達了七千億的部分所以我相信我還是希望拜託各部會在運用人民的納稅錢的時候一定要好好幫人民來把關每一分的經費要好好把關人民的納稅錢今天的追加預算有一部分 |
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這800多億的追加預算有很重大的一部分是636億的地方補助款之前當然針對很多本席這邊也是認為這是法定義務支出不應該刪減所以我們當然是認定這636億的地方補助款應該要來追加不過現在有地方首長也提到了擔心這636億的地方補助款本席要這邊拜託主計長不能重慮輕難一定要好好 |
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依照該做的分配把它依照各縣市不同的需求來去做分配那我們希望的是不要中央在增加預算以後中央吃飽那地方苦哈哈不要說中央假叭叭地方苦哈哈那這次在其他的剩下的各部會的增加預算的132億裡面我們看到我想請教主計長的部分 |
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這個地方各部會的追加預算的部分是什麼時候要求各部會要來執行這個追加預算的動作大概是幾號我們8月4號發文所以主席長有說了8月4號才請各部會要追加相關的預算那主席長就您的職責來講你有好好來看這個各部會他們所追加預算的項目嗎有沒有一些是怪怪的項目你有來得及時間來看嗎 |
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其實我們原則上是請他追加十二分之五就是說後面往後五個月追加多少十二分之五 |
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增加十二分之五 這個來源是什麼意思意思是不是說把我們過去立法院各個委員在委員會審查的預算就把它增加十二分之五的預算來送到大院來去做通過是這樣子嗎三檢的部分全部加十二分之五眼睛閉著加十二分之五送到立法院來是這樣子嗎 |
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所以這個主席長所以主席長我要跟你報告在這次各部會送來的預算有一些的質詢率非常的低不到五成有些連質詢率多少都沒有提供有些甚至要追加特別費或是連委員會不分黨派都認為不應該編列的預算也全部都追加甚至有一些部會更是想要滿血復活 |
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追加率是95%我想請教主計長這樣編列預算的方式你能夠接受嗎請問這次是不是因為時間的關係導致各部會就是照你剛剛講的眼睛閉起來就追加預算沒有 絕對沒有 |
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那请问你是如何审查这些部门去追加预算的数字因为我们被删减数有2000名我是说各部会最近追加的这130而已的部分到底你们这个组织处有没有跟各部会跟这个组织是一条编码跟我们各部会去说你们到底要提供什么样的资料有些连资讯都不到五成了就把这个预算书送上来了有些还要追加特别费有些连我们委员会 |
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大家不分黨派說要刪除的也全部都追加還有部會要追加95%的真的是不能接受所以主席長要跟大家跟你拜託不要中央夾巴巴的地方苦哈哈還有追加要有一個重點很多部會追加預算的時候根本沒有來跟各委員會辦公室溝通所以我希望這次的追加預算我希望我們大院還是要好好來審查謝謝主席長好 謝謝張委員主席現在要請賴會員張委員 |
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謝謝主席 有請行政院周秘書長 農業部 衛福部部長行政院的秘書長 農業部的陳部長周秘書長行政院副秘書長 對不起 對不起立法院周秘書長 行政院秘書長請回 |
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謝謝 祐祷 |
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我想跟你提出幾個問題是我們的院長說用追加預算來補救總預算三過頭為什麼預算中心我們立法院的預算中心會講說進半數的主管的部會的總預算三減的迴編率高達三成以上迴編率三過頭是什麼樣的一個原因呢 秘書長 |
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我回来在当秘书长前我在当副秘书长的时候是 |
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華視局預算中心所寫的報告你只要直接告訴我原因為什麼有辦法就是外交部迴遍率是七成海委會是八成四環境部是七成然後農業部是54%內政部是95%我只是要知道很簡單的一個議題為什麼 |
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不是 賴委員我只想說明預算中心所提的報告我們在行政體系裡面是尊重他我們不會去干預他怎麼寫的情形所以有沒有問題我沒辦法做這個評斷我只跟賴委員報告我們是尊重預算中心所提的他的專業意見 |
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連周秘書長都沒有辦法那個回應好謝謝Miu長我不是不能回應我尊重他的意見農業部部長陳部長請部長那個天然災害的救助基金那個我們在114年編了39億 |
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其實去年我們編了27億到最後我們用了57億那今年編了39億到現在丹納斯颱風花生之前已經用掉了22億那你今年你的天然救助基金夠不夠 |
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我跟委員報告去年的天然災害救助金變了27億結果最後實質是80億因為有三個颱風還有很多天災的影響那今年我們變了39億部分我們預估至少到60億到70億之間 |
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那也感謝大院這邊針對特別預算我們有做天災特別預算有編了一些天然災害基金那這一次的撥補的最佳預算的部分最主要是在所謂的土石流治山防洪的預算部長我想這個農花基金回編了九成啦回編了九成我們都知道你們的困境 |
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苦不能苦農民尤其現在這個整體來講台灣的氣候局數的一個那個加變這個都會影響到這個農業的一個損失所以我想這個回編率高低不是重點合理性才是重點要跟你加油加油那我們那個衛福部部長部長 |
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我想在這裡跟你探討一下,微五部就是我們在113、114年度的法定預算,尤其是我們看到114年度的追加預算,那機關署它的回編率是99,為什麼回編率會這麼高? |
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報告委員那個機關署其實他主要的是辦理傳染病如艾滋結核病防治的一個衛教及多元化的各種模式其實這非常重要必須要透過媒體的管道來強化與民眾的先導所以 |
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這個我們是很實在來編需要的一個所以你想想看嘛這個媒體的試讀那還有就是市面上這個假新聞這麼多啦所以也是一樣支持你的回編啦因為如果沒有回編的話事實上我想我們就可以對人民的健康有更大的保障 |
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好 那部長 也是一樣 加油謝謝賴教委的諮詢下來請中嘉賓委員諮詢 請 |
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謝謝主席在場的委員先進列席的政府監事長官員會長工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請財政部莊部長跟速發部葉次長來 請兩位掌控請 |
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委員好 部長好 次長好 次長請往前我這個接續問一下 抒發部啊這個上週就承繼剛剛郭委員所說的Meta用戶大逃殺 抒發部還在當總機那麼剛剛次長已經解釋過了立法進度我們要有法的授權 那我們往下看抒發部說在沒有法源依據之下只能溝通而且你們有溝通六個項目在這六點訴求 您教授等關係的境況什麼時候可以擬出來 |
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跟委員報告我們跟Meta這邊來溝通他們已經反映給總部了那我們當然會希望他們在最快的時間能夠達成這些包括判別標準的精確率以及社群守則我最關心的就是說社群守則說是違反社群守則就給他停權了那麼被停權的人根本不知道自己是怎麼違反哪一條哪一項 |
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那這個我特別關心這個部分有沒有明擺的跟Meta說希望他們在對用戶停權的時候明確說明他的違規事由可以嗎可以 我們有跟Meta這邊來進行溝通希望他們的社群守則要更明確而且透明度要更提高不是社群守則要更明確除了社群守則要更明確之外違規的處分事由要講出來 |
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不教而殺為之孽你告訴我停權了你不告訴我是委員來拿一條我以後怎麼注意改進是不是這樣子那什麼時候可以提出來 |
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因為Meta的總部它因為是國際公司所以它決策可能有它的程序一個月夠不夠我們也希望在月頭好 來 次長就要有些壓力給他我們來看一下我們還沒壓力給他我們的主席在前天就詢問了川普給壓力了川普對於像歐盟這種數位稅的國家他說要實施出口管制請問明確的告訴大家台灣有數位稅嗎沒有 |
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沒有 台灣是跟要打擊詐騙 防制洗錢我們訂的法律是針對這個部分對不對是的所以說台灣沒有數位稅但是莊部長對於任何國際公司在台營業的內容要不要繳交營業稅對於跨境電商我們是有營業稅跟所得稅是的好 那麼請問Meta在我們台灣境內有沒有繳稅 |
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有沒有 有有有有繳哪一條稅這我們請負稅署署長說明趕快時間有限營業稅 營所稅都有繳他有繳營業稅嗎有你確定來我們看一下目前Google目前Uber等這些公司我們台灣的用戶如果下廣告付他錢營業稅是誰要繳一樣是那個Google就是營業人繳 |
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你都顯然不了解葉市長你們知道嗎目前如果在Google跟Meta我如果下廣告請問我的稅是交給是誰在繳說話不知道嗎如果是個人下廣告的話是那個Meta跟Google要繳但是如果是我們的盈利事業的話是逆向課稅是由盈利事業自己 |
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好 說清楚 葉市長請聽好其實剛剛說得不完全精確如果你是公司你跟Google下廣告那麼Google它會開統一發票給你營業公司但是如果你是個人下廣告Meta叫你消費者直接向國稅局繳納是不是這樣子是不是這樣子剛好相反你說Meta是營業人在Meta下廣告營業人要向國家繳 |
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然後呢那如果是個人下廣告的話是Meta繳Meta有繳有確定 |
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好那最後我再請教一個好那麼速發部那麼連續三個月挨罰罰款繳了沒罰款目前都有繳目前都有進帳好我希望我們財政部跟速發部對於這些國際大平台劇破在我們台灣國內法應盡的義務要確實的要求好不好對我們會依法來處理財政部OK嗎 |
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好 謝謝好 謝謝鍾佳萍委員的諮詢 謝謝下一位請吳佩奕委員諮詢謝謝主席我請法務部部長法務部的鄭部長 |
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部長好我們法務部有一個台北地檢署的擴建工程案去年7月的時候有辦理地質專案的會刊12月的時候辦理拆除工程的會刊不知道部長您知不知情因為我並不知情 |
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地方的民眾來跟我關心這個為什麼要拆除呢未來要做什麼樣的規劃呢工程期間的噪音公安交通維管等等的相關的問題部長我需要來跟民眾來說明所以我在這邊只是提醒你們我希望未來在這個區域內的相關的工程也牽涉到預算請務必能夠跟我們立法委員也一起來溝通讓我們可以掌握也可以讓跟民眾一起來說明可不可以請部長未來多加強溝通 |
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這部分我會請特別地監署跟民眾來做溝通好 謝謝 那部長請回接下來我請文化部部長文化部的李部長好 部長好委員你好剛剛前面有立委說今天最佳預算好像蒙著眼睛但我更要說去年我所看到的刪除預算 |
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更多是蒙著眼睛在刪通刪 刪了什麼都不知道因為我在教文會對文化部預算最了解我們的沒宣費文化部你總共被刪了多少啊 部長全部全部被刪然後你的這個所屬下面的這個單位 |
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全部被刪掉也被通刪那造成什麼樣的影響呢造成就是我們完全沒有辦法宣傳我們每一個節目就是我們的下廣告 下載媒體其實都是為了宣傳文化幣或者我們的節慶所以我們最後只好靠自己 |
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用自己的方法去發舉個例子因為我很喜歡的國際書展今年的國際書展宣傳結果最後要舉辦單位自己去自籌是不是部長只能這樣子因為我們就只能拜託主辦單位自己用國人隱隱偉傲的在大阪的文化世博我們帶了100多組我們台灣的表演藝術工作者去展演獲得大受好評應該多加宣傳結果宣傳怎麼做 |
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就是靠民間他們主動捐了六百萬大家在網路上這樣子募款其實跟委員報告我們在這個之前的很多活動包括美術館的展覽都去跟企業家要錢就是因為被刪掉之後我們已經走了八個月了這八個月其實蠻心酸的就是我們都去跟企業募款出國去很多都是自費就會形成一個你會覺得很奇怪這八個月來我們一直要跟企業要錢 |
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我們都希望讓世界看見台灣文化的實力所以今天我要拜託你你們一定要努力的說服 努力的溝通因為我們的宣傳費是宣傳台灣啊不是宣傳你 不是宣傳我 不是宣傳誰一定要努力加強溝通然後我很關心的這個文化幣去年預算也被刪了嘛 通刪在哪裡 業務費 |
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有人不知道我說我沒有三文化幣有你就通算在業務費裡面就沒辦法宣傳本來要擴大13歲也可以用結果通通都被減少了連我們的國際動漫展都受到影響所以拜託幫忙加強溝通好不好好謝謝部長請回接下來我請勞動部部長勞動部的洪部長請 |
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這個部長你一邊走我們非常關切的就是你們六月提出熱危害的這個預防指引很重要其中呢我們看到實務上可以做的我們的勞檢員可不可以給他們水冷衣可以給他們風扇衣你們勞動部自己就有171名的勞檢員有沒有在規劃了 |
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我想我們現在確實規劃在不管是補助我們這些高風險熱危害防護的設備其實現在是擴大規劃規劃當中什麼時候可以讓我們的勞檢員可以降低他們的熱傷害熱傷害不是只是災害有的會致命 |
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我們希望盡量可以盡量快兩個禮拜內給委員報告好嗎好 拜託盡快我們一定要提升他們的勞動工作環境好 謝謝謝謝主席謝謝吳佩玉委員的質詢下一位請張啟凱委員質詢 請 |
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請司法院副秘書長跟法務部部長還有主席長司法院副秘書長法務部正部長陳主席長三位長官請總統府那個志偉副秘書長你也請好了來總統府的何副秘書長 |
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我們要為這個勞苦功高冒著生命危險為我們捍衛安全的軍人跟警消人員討公道因為他們被行政院霸凌了立法院通過幫軍人每個月加薪三萬塊幫警消人員 |
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把他退休所得替代率恢復到八成結果立法院三讀通過了行政院竟然一毛錢都不編違法亂記我在執行左翁泰的時候他還一直硬拗他說啊他已經提了暫時處分了結果我看昨天吳宗憲把華國務部長罵得裹血淋頭他說你怎麼沒去糾正 |
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周永泰呢 黃國昌會發到臉書他講 周永泰你是在動作你自己是大法官還是你是上帝立法院刪除通過的行政院立連來馬上就編了周永泰是有史以來第一個他竟然說暫時處分就按了暫停鍵就可以不用了他說你是大法官還是你是上帝最重要是什麼現法法庭有做裁決了嗎 |
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有允許他暫時停止嗎那這樣的話那以後大家都不要繳稅了法單也不要繳了你憲法法庭你只要提出來跟總統他一樣全部都停這不天下大亂了嗎那我先請教司法院的副院長副秘書長委員跟您報告一下感謝大家的支持但是我們在過去的過去已經加薪很多次了幅度也是最高的 |
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那這一次我想是 市委你加薪我覺得是好的可是這另外一個事情這裡面牽扯兩個第一個是立法院三讀通過的我們不斷地在加薪我們對軍人的照顧是史上最多最大的從軍社你們以前有陳水扁當了八年蔡英文當了八年歷任的總統行政院長沒有像這一次的以前包括老龍今天過了馬上就變對不對 |
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這是有史以來第一次我請教司法院的副院長委員 允許我一分鐘時間暫停你怎麼可以用我的時間暫停 我只有四分鐘來 副秘來副秘司法院的副秘你們司法院修法法庭有接受了大法官有接受了行政院 |
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這個要求要暫時處分你們已經裁定了嗎報委員目前還沒有裁定沒有實體裁定沒有裁定沒有裁定狀態這麼大他上帝喔他不是大法官耶他喊停耶他就該加薪給軍人就不給 |
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怎麼會這麼離譜我們還是一個法治的國家嗎我們過去加薪已經加了11.4%了你一直在講不一樣的東西請針對問題好不好加薪我們都肯定可是這個牽扯到法治社會依法行政現在行政院長做的已經是毀憲亂政了民進黨已經執政過16年今年第17年了以前沒有一個總統跟行政院長包括老龍今天立法院過了 |
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甚至原住民進法補償大家有沒有印象過了以後不是就編了嗎法案跟預算案不一樣法案過了就是要編結果現在行政院長說我提了暫時處分剛剛司法院講得很清楚嘛你沒有裁定還沒有生效來 我們看一下暫時處分什麼時候會生效憲法訴訟法第37條暫時處分的裁判要從先告跟公告的那一天開始才發生效率耶 |
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沒有發生效率你就算依法要行政啊該給金人加薪你就要給啊幫警消人員的手的貼你就要給啊你這是嚴重違法耶來 發布部長我問一下委員報告這一次的預算幅度是史上三級最高的一次不只是第一個違法亂政的行政院長總統再這樣下去也是跟著是違法亂政的總統欸 聽聽那個法務部長有一句話就好 |
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8349.23 |
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法務部長來依照刑罰第二百一百二十五條第一項第三款你如果明知有罪之人然後無故不死期受到追訴或者是處罰者現在卓榮泰是賭職罪我現在當場告發時間到了我當場告發卓榮泰告發卓榮泰他賭職如果法務部沒有辦你是同罪有判刑對不起 |
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8377.583 |
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昨天不是只有吳宗憲這樣罵你國血淋頭你身為法務部長啊應該趕快去打正啊趕快把該給金人加薪的把該給警消人員的所得退休所得還可以趕快編進來不要再違法亂證了但是行政院長一句話就可以暫停要真正生效現在會請王育民委員質詢應該要憲法法庭裁定以後才會公告才有效謝謝好 請王育民委員質詢 |
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那個請政 政部長 法務部政部長對張文剛才的回答的質詢你在書面提供給他好不好好 請 經過問請像 像我未報告我們質詢到劉淑冰委員之後我們就休息四分鐘 |
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好謝謝主席我們有請主計長還有勞動部部長主計長還有我們的紅部長委員好 |
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主席長好主席長我請教你好勞動部他編了一筆預算呢是923萬2000元是在勞動力發展業務裡面這一筆預算這個立法院預算中心呢他已經講了就是他是要挹注就業安定基金請問他這樣的編列可以嗎你有看到這筆預算是這樣編列嗎 |
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你不知道 主席長不知道你都沒有在看各部會的這一些他編進來的預算 |
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妳沒有在看 那誰在看 誰在把關我們是每一個同仁都有在看然後每一個都有注意他各自部會的一個項目那這個部分挹注他一個基金他裡面也會寫啦他沒有寫但是這一個可能是他的一個那個篇幅沒有那麼多所以就寫得沒有那麼詳細他沒有寫 報告裡面隻字未提可以這樣子嗎 |
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我先問主席長 總統部長主席長可以這樣嗎如果有部會是這樣子的你允許嗎一般是這樣原則上我們說明欄裡面會加寫但是如果說有時候項目太多這個部在以後在審查的時候再補充書面資料這個是你們的疏失喔你們根本沒有提出來是由這個立法院的預算中心很盡責的指出來喔那接下來我要問這個部長喔你這一筆預算是不是就是要補就業安定基金 |
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跟委員說明這筆預算的使用是這樣其實用途上面是去補地方的就業中心的人事費但是它是由公務預算補給救安基金救安基金再來支出地方不是補救安基金是補地方的這個就業中心的人事費它是辦你就業保險的人 |
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妳是直接供預算就下到地方的就業中心不是嗎 妳要進到救安基金然後救安基金做這樣的支出所以妳覺得這行政程序上面有很大的問題為什麼報告裡面不敢提這麼正當的事情為什麼提都不提這個程序有問題第二個我要問妳就是 |
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現在的救安基金的裁員事實上是非常的充裕的都還有盈餘按照預算法第79條裡面的第一項第三款裡面所辦的這個事業因重大事故經費超過法定預算時才可以去追加預算 |
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8600.156 |
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請問你現在為什麼多加了這筆900多萬是有符合這樣的情況嗎是有發生什麼重大的情況重大的變故導致無法因應嗎有嗎跟委員說明因為其實這筆錢其實它的來源源頭就是來自於公務預算過去就是這樣過去就是來自公務預算 |
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我就是說就是來自於公務預算但是因為現在它被刪減了以後變成是我們在地方就業中心的人力欲缺不補有被刪減嗎有在委員會有刪減你嗎後來是被刪減的後來是誰刪減表決上面是被刪減的 |
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沒有啊 我們在委員會沒有刪減這筆錢這個900多萬是刪減的是通案刪減的可是這個讓我們在就業中心的人力變成要欲缺不補那現在比方面對關稅的問題可能會到我們這個地方就業中心的人 |
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這一個部分你們程序上面我覺得就是有問題你們沒有直接講你的用處而且沒有直接講出來你講到了這個主計長你知道以後你在監督各部會他提預算的時候明明是要編給基金的這個按照規定你就是要講清楚而且應該要把基金的相關預算也要送上來這個勞動部通通都沒有做到接下來我要問你剛剛提到的就是紓困的部分 |
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8688.74 |
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現在關稅我們看到這個人數是暴增一倍啊從1955人現在是3934暴增了一倍上個禮拜我有要求勞動部你要因應這一個去研議你的紓困貸款我認為你應該要提早啟動年底的紓困貸款可以提早啟動第二個金額增加所以追加預算如果真的是要用在勞工身上的我們都同意但是不要魚目混珠不要說要編給基金的又不敢寫 |
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基金是用在勞工身上的這一個部長你可以影響這個要幫助勞工的你可以做到嗎紓困貸款的部分可不可以提早提到對於關稅的衝擊對勞工我們現在都在加碼都在把幫助跟支持的力道給強化紓困貸款可不可以提早我覺得各種方案我們可以跟委員這邊來討論 |
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8711.687 |
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8718.173 |
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把那個報告給我好 謝謝戴款的這個部分應該要提早讓勞工可以與預來因應好 謝謝我們現在會請張宏祿委員質詢 |
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我請內政部 金管會 財政部內政部的劉部長 金管會的潘主委還有衛福部 財政部的莊部長委員好 |
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8765.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
8772.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
各位好我們今天來這個追加減預算也是政府沒有錢不能辦事對不對對 當我們在施政上以及各項業務推動上有這樣的一個實際需求對 政府沒有錢就不能辦事我今天請三個部會來劉部長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
8815.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
我們的一直在講微老微老的改建這個是政府積極推動的政策而且我們跟人民講你微老你就是不需要透過建商或什麼自己可以來做嘛對不對是的但我不知道部長知不知道現在很多微老的案子銀行都不貸款有聽說過這樣的例子我們正在想辦法要看如何解決那今天都在這能不能解決 |
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| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
8844.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
來金管會財政部你們可以回答社保委員我們現在金管會主政的是銀行法72之2條的上限的問題我們在那個72之2的時候我們把危老都更已經排除在外面了那時候我們還有修法我們內政委員立法院都有修法對不對這已經排除了你不要跟我講法條我時間有限你們要怎麼解決 |
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| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
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我們這邊銀行法的部分我們這邊沒有這個障礙那是其他可能信用管制的問題然後呢 所以你無法解決是不是我在我金管會主政的範圍的這部分我們已經針對這部分已經把他排除那我問你 你所有的銀行所有的不按照政府的法令去做你束手無策嗎不是 這是還有其他的主管機關在處理來 財政部你覺得呢 |
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跟委員報告剛剛金管會已經說了就是銀行法那個限制百分之三十的限制其實已經排除危老跟都更那這個部分我想各個銀行他就可以根據金管會的這樣的一個放寬的一個應該就可以去做但沒有做我想這個部分所謂沒有做的話是不是可以讓我們了解一下他的個案情況這不是個案你剛剛劉部長也講了這已經變通案了不是個案 |
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人民你政府一直鼓勵人家結果人家做了你政府又不支持你這是騙人民我想政府是一致性的你知不知道像危老這個他們是不用透過建商結果你們銀行百般找麻煩不貸款給人家 |
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不然還甚至有的人有的銀行說你去找建商來跟你一起蓋這是什麼道理啊你們今天三個都在這邊沒有辦法解決嗎 |
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報告委員您這關心的問題我們在尋求解決之道第一個就是自主都更然後再來就看能不能通過一個都更會然後盡量排除由建商來主導那這個部分我們跟財政還有金管單位都在處理看怎麼樣處理會比較好部長我跟你講人家危老的人家民眾自己蓋的現在銀行都借不到錢 |
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我們有了解這個狀況我跟你講如果你們連這個都沒有辦法解決我跟你講那你們的追加預算也不用給你們啊因為給你們錢你們不會處理事情啊給你們錢你們不處理事情啊那幹嘛給你們錢 |
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那你們自己沒錢就說沒有辦法做事我們追加預算是法定或是我們在重大盛事上面要追加回來的部長 打房我們都很支持但這個危老 我一直在強調我現在只有講危老喔我只要你們解決這個問題喔再給我們一點時間來溝通你們如果沒有辦法解決你們沒有辦法解決我們也不用給你們追加減預算啦因為你們不會做事啦 |
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好 謝謝張委員的質詢現在要請劉書斌委員質詢請劉委員質詢完畢 我們休息十分鐘好 有請教育部長 文化部長 還有主計長教育部的詹部長 文化部的李部長還有哪一位 三位還有主計長 |
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好 幾位首長好先針對教育部部長來做一下質詢在這一次的追加預算當中我們看到的是教育部他在增加了五千多萬然後相關的部會當中我們看到的是最重要的是在是因為理由根據 |
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預算中心裡面的評估報告裡面呈現出來是因為第三項79條第三項的所辦事業因為重大事故經費超過法定預算然後在這個情況之下的時候我們當然大家請問說到底有沒有重大事件發生事項但是最重要的是這次迴編當中有提到的是在媒體的文宣費當中增加了四成 |
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那尤其是如果是針對文宣費這邊它必須根據預算法的62條還必須提出要根據要列明辦理金額跟執行事項執行內容這邊要都提出來這部分呢要都要看出來的沒有提出來正式的報告那文化部長同樣也是這樣那個旅館部長 |
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您的這個報告當中也提到的是文化部提供了2億8千多萬的部分那2億8千多萬也是根據預算中心的報告通通都是要是跟絕大部分都是在回撥的這個部分把過去35%還回撥下去同樣的是在預算的在 |
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屬於文宣的部分呢也是回的占到4成同樣也是遇到79條跟第62條的部分來進行那這部分請回答一下你們這部分沒有列明辦理金額也沒有執行內容這怎麼樣讓我們大院來去審呢 |
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我們來去審呢其實我們是被刪掉11億這次回編大概2億多我們這樣的比例其實非常低大概25%都不到那我們所編的每一筆錢都是原來要用的已經被刪掉後我剛才有報告我們整個文化部到8月以前都是靠企業來捐款靠大家個人來捐款 |
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還有出國靠自己的錢如果能夠回編的話我們下半年有金鐘金馬有大概七八個大型的典禮我們都沒有錢去宣傳其實我們已經面臨到這個地步所以這部分在看到的是因為是依照79條的第三項重大事故你是把立法院的審查這部分當作重大事故嗎我們其實 |
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對 這個也算重大事故因為我們文化部最重要的就是到了年底的這幾個月最重要的金馬獎 金鐘獎 還有金曲獎全部都在最後要出你如果這樣說的話等於說是把立法院的刪減預算權當作是一個重大事故差不多這個意思這是非常奇怪的說法 |
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因為你這個刪減就是重大事故為什麼我們從1月到8月過的文宣費用這是文宣費用我想要跟大家說明的4成分那請你要說明那你的金額你必須要說明你沒有說明實際上就是一個疏忽而且就剛才可能在我們聽到的是主計長這邊都被詢問過的是要有相關的這個規定等等的重大事故主計長你認為這是重大事故嗎 |
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立法院刪你的預算是而且是刪到史上還是最高的預算喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
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報告委員因為它刪減它是有限定用就是百分比達到很高就是譬如說60%有的80%然後而且它還禁止流用所以影響到整個一個機關的一個執行所以這個部分當然是屬於重大因為機關它沒辦法執行像文化部它有全部被刪減的因為你們之前都沒有做溝通那最重要再問大家一個問題是這個主席長請你回覆一下如果你們不是不滿意的話你們竟然會做什麼樣的動作 |
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不是我們原則上是希望說透過追加減預算的部分然後來跟立法院來做溝通就是說這個部分有自愛難行的部分是不是可以來就是你們下次的時候就必須做早早就要做這個事情不知道114年才出現這個問題115年再繼續做這些事情好嗎好 謝謝好 謝謝好 謝謝我們劉委員的質詢那麼向委員報告我們休息10分鐘 |
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響鐘 |
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| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
這裏面有個節奏的武器,還有幾乎都可以進行。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
響鐘 |
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| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
謝謝大家 |
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這裏是大廈的一間餐廳 |
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這裏是一座大廈。這裏是一座大廈。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
這裏有個房間 |
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向委員會報告請各位維持會場的秩序請各位維持會場的秩序幕僚人員請不要在這裡面因為我們現在在九樓禮堂空氣品質非常不好所以請大家彼此尊重 |
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我們現在繼續開會 在開會之前我做一個宣告我們現在是公開追加預算的詢答之後我們會機密預算的報告詢答處理那個地點改在 |
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群間樓就這個樓501大概我們全部完畢以後我們就先我們先公開的詢答再來機密的詢答以及處理之後結束以後再回來處理就順序這個樣子好不好讓各位知道各位可以抓各位委員可以抓一下時間如果要參加機密預算的處理的話大概這個樣子好我們下一位請王世堅委員質詢時間10分鐘 |
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請各位如果留在裡面請各位肅靜好不好尊重我們開會尊重我們開會如果需要講話請各位出去外面講話謝謝主席 |
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沒想到我們官員的聲音比立委的聲音還大齁那個在立法院吵鬧是應當的啦那個主席我請農業部陳部長農業部陳部長我們其他人也請尊重我們開會好不好請大家在裡面不要講話啊喂齁 |
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10159.156 |
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10164.659 |
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昨天丹納斯颱風特別條例農業部這203億元通過這非常好所以我們對農民做災害的補償做農水路的復旧這個都非常好但是 |
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我們在今年也針對農業保險法也通過修正那把政府補貼給農民的保費比例提高到百分之七十五但是我們現在現在我們補貼給農民的除了強制保險租資跟稻民以外還是維持百分之五十你們說的是說預算不足 |
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那我們之所以會有農業保險就是因為農業的災損農民得到政府補償大概26%而已那歷年來你也知道我們每一年的農損從數十億到數百億中間也就是說辛苦工作的農民們他們要自行負擔75%的這樣子的農損所以才會有農保 |
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所以我在這邊我具體要求因為你給我的答覆裡面你說這個農保現在覆蓋率有達到53%你說今年啦到五月你說已經納保了19萬 |
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覆蓋率53.9%但是那是包含強制保險的百分之百補貼的稻米跟豬隻含在裡面如果扣掉稻米豬隻這些強制的那其實只有17.3%而已我認為這個覆蓋率太低 |
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10298.399 |
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而我們研究室在跟你們要求要農業部提出具體的方法比方說對農業保險的研議品項的研議增加比方說保費來提高補助從50%提高到現在農保法就有上限是70%啊那我說你把這個差額算出來多少算了半天 |
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從5月算到現在我拿不到你的答覆所以我今天希望你帶回去這個問題好好研議好不好以及啊 腦農的 |
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老農津貼的排富條款隨著從上回定的排富的標準那民國100年到現在14年這14年來我們整體社會經濟的進步社會財富的增加本來就幫把這個老農津貼的排富條款把它提高那個標準 |
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我的提案裡面那個一點都沒有錯啊那個金額也不高財產從500萬提高到900萬每年收入從50萬提高到60萬你們也沒有一個答覆要不然你們的對策市場你們都是認為說通通不要動就對了 |
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10375.643 |
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那這樣我們國會議員在監督你們什麼我跟委員簡單的說明就是牌付條款的部那個老農今天牌付條款的部分我們已經跟行政院報告過然後也現在在行政院已經審查所以預計在下個會期會把老農今天的牌付條款的這些牌付的這些 |
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條例的修正會送到立法院來審議第二個部分是農業保險本身農業部雖然補助百分之五但是一般地方政府有補助到百分之三十到四十所以農民的負擔大概是百分之一般地方政府自己財政過來好 他補助金額那佔總保費多少你也把這個金額給我好不好好 那你請回你請回我還有一分鐘 |
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10414.792 |
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那個主席還有1分鐘嗎時間到了時間到了好不好謝謝4分鐘了不是4加1喔沒有沒有就4分鐘好不好現在我請黃秀芳委員質詢抱歉啦這個因為今天要處理事情太多了謝謝謝謝主席我們先請經濟部次長經濟部請來一位經濟部經濟部的次長黃次長 |
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10432.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
10438.821 |
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官員好市長好市長我延續昨天還沒問完的就是說這一次丹納斯風災還有隔天的豪雨成災彰化地方有很多地窪的地方就都淹水例如說鹿港彰化市也有一部分彰化的西南角 |
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10466.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
方院 二林 大成這邊主堂也都有淹水的一個狀況那我想請教就是說我們這一次的追加預算裡面也有一個水資源的工程經費總共19億多 |
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10469.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
10497.631 |
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那我想請教的就是說除了這些原本可能我們原本的這些治水的計畫低窪的地區要怎麼來防洪這個防災那治水我是不是可以請這個市長針對這一部分可以再做一個說明那我認為就是說所有的這個防洪這個治水的部分應該是不可以只有就一個單點應該是要全面去評估 |
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10499.312 |
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10513.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
現在就是頭痛一頭腳痛一腳那我是不是可以先請次長針對這一部分未來在我們彰化這一邊鹿港這個淹水的部分那我們有什麼樣的計畫可以來解決這個淹水的部分好 |
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跟委員報告我們現在治水的方向就是一個系統性治水就是可能跨部位大家一起來因為它這個不是只有一個單點而已它可能只有上中下游甚至就是說可能還有農水路還有我們的一般的區域的排水 |
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這個系統其實我們都會一起把它跨部會大家一起來做整治好 那我希望就是說真的要做到跨部會因為像有的下游的部分做好了可是中上游可能是在市區它可能會有遇到一些困難 |
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又就要跨部會的去協調可是這個跨部會的協調可能就會延宕很久所以會造成這樣子風災來那個颱風來或者是好雨來就淹水一年可能淹了十幾次我們希望就是說這個我們自己中央在執政我們希望能夠真正的跨部會去解決這個淹水的這個問題好不好好那接下來我可不可以請一下那個農業部部長農業部的陳部長請 |
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我也好部長我想請教就是說因為前陣子這個颱風然後豪雨那地方有很多譬如說養豬 養雞可能就淹水那豬隻也損失非常的多我想請教因為接下來就是中原普渡 |
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那再接下來就是中秋節那我今天看到一個新聞就是說這個營養午餐可能吃不到豬肉改由這個雞肉來取代那我想請教部長針對這樣的一個事情那我們要怎麼去解決 |
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不要讓這個民眾要買豬肉來拜拜買不到那中秋節要烤肉買不到豬肉那豬肉的這個價格又一直在上漲那血統吃不到豬肉我覺得這是一個很嚴重的問題我是不是可以先請部長 |
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我謝謝委員 針對最近一段時間豬肉的價格上漲我們大概從上個月開始就啟動了所謂冷凍工會這邊減少去拍賣場去抓豬第二個部分我們透過台糖去調度豬開始的時候現在的豬價大概回穩從過往的110塊現在已經降到大概99到100之間已經到了一個合理的區間 |
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所以后续我们会持续的去监控然后去做透过调度的方式来维持稳定的一个租价是那现在你有看到今天的新闻吗就是说这个学童的南部学童热营养午餐是 |
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可能會吃不到豬肉那類似這樣的一個問題當然我不希望就是說因為在豬肉的這個可能會用得非常多中元普渡中秋節可能都會用得非常的多那我想請教部長 |
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不論是價格可能會有一些波動價格可能會提高你剛剛有說可能會用一些豬肉釋出可能讓價格能夠平穩是不是還有其他的方式讓學童的營養午餐確實能夠吃到豬肉 |
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我跟委員報告因為學長午餐的部分他是用合約的方式年度是在跟學校去定價格是固定的時間到好謝謝我們現在請林俊憲委員質詢請謝謝主席本席邀請我們速發部今天是次長嗎速發部的張冠俊我們NCC的張大力主委 |
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代理主委請委員好市長好兩位好在這次我們台南的災情 |
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那其中大家知道非常慘重那有一點就是因為除了停電停水以外就整個通訊網路全部斷掉了所以造成了災民對外求救完全沒有辦法聯絡那我們要進去救災也產生了極大的困難甚至連手機Google地圖你都找不到 |
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所以後來我們就檢討這一次的為什麼會斷訊的原因當時我就有在質詢NCC就請NCC要來開放災難漫遊因為台灣三大電信系統中華電信 遠傳 還有台科大中華電信的基礎建設最好所以在災區搶修的時候一想就有信號 |
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但其他的啦其他的還沒信用的其他的兩家電信業者的使用者如果我們有開放災難漫遊他就可以跳過來使用啦我們有開放我們去國外旅遊都知道國外有一個國際漫遊但國內沒有災難漫遊還有 |
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我們救災政府原本有建立一個叫PPDR就是公共安全還有救難應變系統他指的也是在災難的時候電信業者能夠讓出一定的評判給政府來使用因為在這次的救災我們也看見因為政府要救災跟一般民用大家混雜在擠在那個網路上 |
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所以也造成救災一個困難但是我們今天要追加預算我要提這一點這個就是在審查總預算的時候我們在野黨其實就把這兩項政府要做的增強通信韌性的預算全部刪除掉了我告訴你黑白太無聲亂砍預算這個也是個證明我們來看一下災難漫遊 |
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在那漫遊原本都是編在速發部的獎補助款啦速發部這次的追加預算啦我希望你這兩個事情要優先來做啦 |
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那在那漫遊NCC已經有協調開放有認證過了嘛我們請陳代主委是 跟委員報告在漫遊我們在8月7號已經啟動做先導性的然後定期檢討上禮拜21號已經開過檢討會未來要朝著SOP制度化來做訂定一些相關作業要點好那這樣的預算 |
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之前是編列在速發部啦對不對市長在我們速發部的我們先前有一個這個前導的這個測試計畫2000萬左右我秀出來給你看啦在這個預算裡面當時被在野黨給砍掉了就支持數位韌性的跨業者行動網路接收的驗證你這段預算被砍掉了還有建立我們國家 |
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救災公共與救難應變PBDR的通信是因驗證是這因為三檢預算這個也被砍掉了這就是我跟你說的這個亂砍預算在這次救災就嚴重的影響到這個救災的那個通信所以你這次的預算追加回來我認為這兩個業務你應該列在裡面因為你被砍掉35億 |
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我看你這次最佳 蘇澳不只有最佳12億啦其中本部預算最佳6億那我不曉得6億你要怎麼去分配那如果要分配的話這幾個應該是列為優先是的 有關這個PPDR部分我們有追加6千萬希望能夠更盡快來做這樣好 謝謝謝謝林基建委員的質詢下一位請麥玉珍 |
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麥玉珍 麥玉珍委員不在 感謝喔我們現在會請李坤城委員質詢請謝謝主席 我們請主計長陳主計長請 |
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委員好主席長好 辛苦了今天台北市長蔣萬安他要去行政院開這個院會他很生氣他說為什麼中央要裝冷氣那是電費要的地方來出然後新北市長侯友宜在上禮拜跟了一大堆的校長講他說你們校長你們可能不知道接下來的冷氣中央不出錢了你們要由學校自己來負責 |
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然後呢 侯永瑜就拍拍胸部沒有關係 新北市來幫你們出我就覺得很奇怪啊請教一下這個主席長這個明年給這個地方的這個統籌分配款有沒有增加他們有沒有錢來付這個電費啊 |
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明年因為財化法的關係我們給地方的統籌分配稅款會增加4165億那它原來就有4676億兩個合起來就8千多億然後財化法又規定一般性補助款要維持然後縣市又要求希望 |
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我們計畫性補助那個補助的比例不能變動還有已經核定的要照常執行這是我們沒辦法負擔的所以這個部分一定是要把原來地方制度法規定屬於地方自治的事項回歸給地方去編列這才有辦法解決 |
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這個按照地方自助法的第18條第19條還有國民教育法的第8條的規定轄區內的學校經費是屬於地方政府的職責但是因為過去中央錢比較多所以我們有補助地方但是如果現在地方拿到統籌分配款比過去多了比如像台北市比過去多了444億新北市比過去多了410億那他們有沒有錢來繳這個電費 |
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他是絕對有錢的像如果說台北市的話我光是統籌分配稅款加我現在目前一般性社福的分配如果光是這兩項他就多出100多億計劃型的部分還沒有合但是沒有辦法還沒有合給他這個部分但是他光是這兩項加起來就增加100多億 |
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所以主席長我跟你講這是所有我們所有的內閣部會首長都在這邊我就跟你講現在不論是蔣萬安侯友宜或是盧秀燕他就一條一條拿出來跟你講他說他以前過去都是中央編的為什麼現在變成地方編但是沒關係地方咬緊牙關也要編 |
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但是其實是中央給地方的錢啊就本來是中央的錢變成這個地方的統售分配款地方的統售分配款也增加了所以本來要由地方來出的事這些錢不是就應該由地方來出嗎這就是我們當初來修財化法的時候一直提到就是說我們的財權跟事權一定要分清楚不要拿錢不辦事嘛但是我跟你講你們現在吃虧了 |
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現在他就會跟所有的地方的不論那些校長不論那些地方那些人就跟你們講這些本來是中央要給的經費他現在就跟你講啦租金的補貼啦學校的電費啦弱勢學生的營養午餐費啦中央以後都不出了 |
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以後由地方自己出那明明就是地方有增加這些經費但是他不會跟你講所以我要求主計處你們要把本來由這個中央出的現在因為統籌分配款的地方增加了由地方出的有哪一些是由以前中央出現在改由地方出但是因為你們統籌分配款增加了把它一條一條列出來好不好你們有這個準備了嗎有 |
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有嗎 有這些資料了嗎如果有這些資料你給我一份我跟你講 接下來像蔣萬安這一種的跑去說中央不出了 我地方出會越來越多像蔣萬安這種的那原本就是因為地方統籌分款增加了嘛 |
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增加了你有足夠的費用可以去處理這件事情但是你們要做好防衛不然以後一條一條出來講都說中央不出的地方出那原本地方就有錢出了嘛因為財務法已經通過現在財務法通過了嘛把這資料準備一份給我謝謝李棍城委員的質詢 謝謝現在要請李彥秀委員質詢 |
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我可不可以請一下主席長以及陳主席長 |
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委員好主席長我剛才聽到幾位委員在質詢統籌分配款新制的統籌分配款跟一般性的補助款這是完全在地方上執行這是完全兩大塊不一樣的項目對於地方補助款這是執行中央跟地方大家共同認同的很多業務 |
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大家可以來執行現在是針對地方的補助款你們現在調整了一個新制的補助方式這補助方式未來是各單位用政策性方式來跟各縣市來跟各部會來去做溝通需求第一個 |
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過去行之有年的一套公式我們對於公式的內容我們可以重新再做討論但是這個黑箱的新制辦法第一個未來會增加中央跟地方你們要花耗費更多的時間來去做討論 |
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未來你們的想法你們覺得可以地方覺得一定要的或者很有需求的你們中間覺得不需要但是憑良心長站在第一線了解各縣市居民第一線的需求他們是站在第一線 |
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無論是地方縣市政府無論是各政黨執政的縣市他們都有他們希望執政的亮點台北市跟台南可能不一樣因為每一個城鄉差距希望推動的政策不一樣所以這就是為什麼我們覺得在這個時間點上丟出來這些問題很可怕然後再來是我覺得蔣萬安還有好幾位包括台南 新北 |
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桃園其實都有共通的想法還不只是只有萊茵的執政縣市新制的這些補助款的處理形式未來會造成很多的紛爭我再次提醒你要思考清楚不要讓人家覺得 |
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鬥完在野黨之後才講說要朝野對話現在變成跟各縣市的市民縣民在做鬥爭跟各縣市的縣市首長在做鬥爭以上是我對於整個統籌分配款跟一般性的補助款做的跟您做的提醒好你請回接下來我要請衛福部部長部長就部長請 |
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部長辛苦你了謝謝你雖然留任時間沒有剩下幾天但是我第一個我還是要肯定你包括在過去很多醫界關注的政策你都一一落實完成第二我長期關注的帶狀性炮診疫苗的風險評估報告 |
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我相信這個是過去你無論當立委或過去這幾年你聽到這是很重要因為肥腸癌也好帶狀性泡疹現在在台灣大家得了一生很可能再犯所以那個再犯率很高或長期的疼痛所以這個風險評估報告我仍舊希望不管你在哪裡都可以繼續關注這些事情 |
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第二件事情我现在57秒我要关注的就是我们现在的医疗院所HIS系统这个HIS系统当然是好事因为它无论是借由系统的统一规范应用程式它可以整合我们数位医疗平台 |
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這個系統第一個我是肯定的但是對於醫學中心它可能有經費因為這是雲端的整個建置系統統一但是對於地方的醫療系統它可能在建置這個系統過程當中它常要更新廠商每一次來要一年更新一次明年要更新一次對於很多醫療小診所它就是一筆不小的費用這個怎麼處理我要聽當然我支持整個 |
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對於大的系統 |
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但是我提醒就是對於醫療院所基層的是很辛苦的所以第一我有三點再給我三十秒就好了雲端HIT系統第一個要整合第二個我們希望配合在HIT系統還沒普及之前我們的政策更新的費用我覺得我們要留住好不好我們會來落實 請放心你提的都很重要 |
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我們已經積極在進行要補助喔 要補助喔感謝委員支持今天非常趕 抱歉抱歉這個蘇喬漢委員之心 報告委員會我們現在可以用餐喔如果便當到你面前你可以用喔 |
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謝謝很抱歉 再次跟委員抱歉因為今天要處理事情太多了時間非常趕所以只能夠給10分鐘好 我們請蘇委好 謝謝主席我想請主計長 經濟部次長內政部 海委會內政部部長 海委會主委 謝謝不好意思一次請您上台因為時間有限我們經濟部 財政部我就按照順序 主計長金管會一起 來主計長 |
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主席長好剛剛在這個議場當中接連聽了幾位委員的質詢有提到了這個統籌分配款及一般這個補助款這樣的狀況我剛剛聽到的用詞是說啦說真的這個我們其實中央跟地方之間這個 |
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統籌分配款 一般補助款都是非常重要的裁員而且有行之有年的分配公式大家都很習慣希望未來不要黑箱決定剛剛您說到這樣有聽到這樣的質詢嘛 對不對那你的意見是你會好好注意嘛妥善分配嘛 對不對坦白講我聽了實在是很感慨啦很感慨啦 |
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這一段話有既定的公式希望能夠好好的討論不要黑箱不就是當時我們在處理財化法的時候我們的主張我們的要求嗎我們不是正要求說這一套財化法當然應該要改身為新北市的代表我主張新北市要有更多的錢更多的預算 |
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可是問題是為什麼最後分配的比例是花蓮的增加比例比我新北市400萬人口的大市還要多呢我就不懂這個公式是什麼嘛好 所以這樣一套的制度下去之後今天也已經走到這裡了啦我們雖然不願意但時間確實是來到這裡所以組織長 我覺得 |
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這個當家的也就是要擔責任啦主席長我期免你啦在這個時段好好的冷靜的下來啦我們誠意的跟地方好好的就這個我們未來的國家總體裁員做一個分配啦辛苦了但我希望也是我們好好的跟地方討論未來市權錢要怎麼分配怎麼做重新把公式訂出來這是主席長我對你的期許啦謝謝主席長請回 |
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那經濟部利用短短的時間跟你請教全國電纜地下化的部分這次的風災看到了平和公路電纜地下化很好所以沒有斷電蘭嶼也地下化沒有斷電所以卓院長在8月16的時候說他支持全國要電纜地下化的評估要來啟動對不對經濟部有這件事情嗎請問你錢從哪裡來 |
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你台電上一次沒有被撥補啊去年的預算撥補沒有被撥補嘛特別條例的要增加的也沒有被增加啊那明年的總預算你有嗎跟委員報告我們平屋報告昨天那個曾董事長也承諾大概兩個月會提出來那這個電纜地下化的經費是一個很龐大的經費 |
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沒錯啊所以先從評估我連你評估的錢在哪裡坦白講我都還不知道啦因為台電的錢就是一直被卡住嘛所以既然全國現在都支持電纜地下化經濟部我請你好好的說明把錢要從哪裡來不然包括不要說是地下化的評估連我現在地方電纜地下化工程做到一半 |
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台電都沒有錢可以來做了這件事情應該要講清楚嘛誰卡住了錢讓我們的工程不能進行這個應該要做到啦好 謝謝經濟部啦那接下來內政部跟海委會兩位部長和主委啦那因為實際 |
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說控制的這麼嚴格那我其實是想表達我就是在內政委員會裡面這一次的預算確實被刪了非常的多包括了生活道路生活圈道路系統刪了這邊刪了這麼多永續人行人安全計畫也通通都刪了嘛所以我的限到105的這個部分其實我要評估也竟然跟我說有危險 |
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人行道計畫也要停污水下水道甚至我們白袍湖社會住宅全刪所以這一次我雖然看到了在追加預算當中您有提出相關的追加可是我也看到了有委員提出要把內政部的預算是全部刪除部長全部刪除啊 |
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那海委會一樣啊海委會 你的艦艇到底交了沒有有沒有尾款可以付還要再付違約利息主委 這個我等一下希望我們在討論的時候審查都要能夠說清楚啊好 審查時候再來說清楚好 下一位請鄭天才委員質詢請 |
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主席 各位委員 有請主席長還有陳主席長 請 顏明慧的主委 |
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主席長今天審查最佳預算之前我也跟你提過了最主要就是說這個預算提案但是這個預算提案其實真的很清楚一般性補助款真的沒有刪何況行政院主計總署 |
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送來的立法院的一般性補助款是依法例義務支出 非常的明確然後民進黨在今年1月21號的臉書也特別提到這個是中央法定支出民進黨臉書也認定 未刪減這個一般性補助款好 新年走到這個地步 |
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不得不要去處理了當然為什麼呢我們回顧當時就是為了大罷免讓我們各部會所長再回顧一下韓國瑜院長主持兩天的協商而且還特別講可以增加兩天禮拜六禮拜天也可以但是當初都沒有當時為了大罷免營造所以 |
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我們的柯總召都不協商全部都講這些跟預算無關的這是第一個第二個提出復一案行政院提出一百一十四年度總預算的復一案的時候傅坤祺總召特別提到 |
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如果不足的可以提追加預算那時候就講過了可以提追加預算但是一直沒有提出來你們結果還去刪減不應該刪減的一般性補助款這個就是還原這個整個來源所以在這樣的一個情形之下今天提出這個像中選會的這個 |
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以前都是用公民投票以前全部都是用第二一倍金現在是已經用了還要再追加預算這個是不要再這麼荒唐主計長要有一個擔當要有個擔當要把過去長年以來中華民國政府長年以來的這個制度要把它建立好不可以隨便 |
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改來改去所以這個部分大家討論的時候都可以討論第六個133億這個就是剛才我講的你去刪減一般性補償然後又要各部會統三就超過了超過636億之前我提過那個 |
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原住民原鄉的一般性補助館後來你補回來了時間的關係最後 政政要最佳預算的是原住民族綜合發展基金105年的時候馬英九留下來的是117億7081萬1千元的原住民族綜合發展基金結果從106年開始挪用挪用挪用 |
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總共挪用到53億多現在是負67億多真正要追加預算的是這個何況立法院在106年度的預算的主決議也提到要返還挪用的經費 |
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所以曾主委 你要很勇敢的要去爭取 要提出來返還67億多 可能還不值了因為113億還沒有出來好 以上謝謝謝謝鄭委員的質詢 下一位請黃珊珊委員質詢 請 |
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還有行政院副秘書長行政院的副秘書長請 |
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好 三位首長好我想今天是追加預算的尋答我有幾個非常重要的問題我想請教一下總統府的部分在去年113年預算是151億然後決算的時候還剩了3.58億今年的預算已經暴增到156億將近增加了5億為什麼還要再追加3000億 |
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謝謝委員你們去年錢都花不完3.58億的剩餘今年又幫你們增加了5億的錢整個加起來應該多了7、8億的錢但是你們沒有用完也就算了為什麼今年還要追加3000多萬黃委員可以允許我把數字請你簡要說明好嗎原因是什麼就好你不用跟我講數字我們這一次的預算法定預算114年度其實只有10億而已 |
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所以其他都是什麼錢就是你去年為什麼剩下3.58億我們去年並沒有剩下3.58億我的數字是決算數字是審計部的數字行政院副秘書長請你回答我行政院在去年的預算是345億剩餘用不完的錢是12億今年你們的預算也暴增到362億然後增加了將近7億今年你還要再追加45億行政院在幹嘛呢 |
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委員的數字可能有誤解那是行政院主管不是行政院院本部是 所以我現在就要問你你主管的業務你還不知道嗎主管業務不是我主管的是你總署主管的所以你今天來代表行政院但是你沒有辦法回答行政院的問題我回答院本部的問題只能回答院本部是 謝謝所以你也不知道你為什麼去年設這麼多錢好 財政部 |
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部長你去年也剩很多錢啊你去年剩下了142億沒有花光啊你現在又來追加五千多萬我要問的是三位喔今天追加預算要符合預算法79條如果沒有符合相關的規定的話你們現在預算全部暴增但是又來用追加預算我個人認為 |
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理由要說清楚跟委員說明一下我們114年度所編的預算比113年少30億因為我們是逐一去檢討計劃但是你剩下一百多億有一些是屬於債務還息的部分因為我們的債務條度所以你剩下的錢是債務還息那個錢是不能拿來做其他用是債務還息的我要說的是三位你們必須要說明清楚今天立法院要通過到你們要不要追加預算你要連說清楚是 |
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你的預算增加你的剩餘這麼多但是你還要今天來再用追加預算表示你們對於預算跟業務的了解我覺得是有很大的問題好總統府可以回答了嗎 |
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各位委員報告我們的執行率其實來到95%那扣除掉這些人事費用還有剩下3000多萬所以去年花不完今年還欠錢但是你預算增加5億要怎麼解釋呢你總統有新增什麼偉大的業務嗎 |
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我們並沒有增加五億沒有增加那你增加五億是哪裡來的我們可以快速跟委員報告這個是我們下面還有國安會我要說的是符不符合預算法79條必須要清楚的對外建設委員是專業的所以這個部分絕對尊重但是我們的執行率是高的這個跟委員報告我希望今天追加預算不是只有看到你們用地方政府的一般補助款來夾帶你們自己各單位的追加預算我覺得是很不合宜 |
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因為地方政府的一般補助款被砍掉現在用追加預算來立法院其實是有擄人熱鼠的嫌疑綁著地方政府補助款逼著立法院一定要通過然後夾帶出這麼多奇怪的預算要拜託委員支持這一次的預算是史上煽動最多的我還是認為說三個單位請你給我一個完整的書面說明我會在今天的部分加入相關的代替決議拜託委員支持 懇請委員支持 |
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好 下一位請謝一鳳委員質詢請謝謝主席我想要請行政院副秘書長還有經濟部次長副秘書長 經濟部次長兩位委員好 |
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副秘書長好啊我現在問的問題絕對是行政院層級的我想請問這一次的對美的談判那我們看到了像南韓他是由總統李在民他去 |
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美國直接的談那帶了所有的企業家以及所有關鍵的技術那希望跟美國有深化的合作那目前我們由行政院副院長的陳吉到美國去談並好像沒有談出什麼啊你們保密了所有的內容啊那沒有談出什麼啊那是不是 |
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都已經談成這樣子了我們看到韓國 南韓 日本我們有沒有要改變我們的策略你說各位報告 目前談判還在持續進行中對 我知道在進行中啊我說有沒有要改變策略啊你沒回答我啊這個部分要涉及談判小組的決策問題了這是不是你們行政院層級的也不能回答嗎這個部分的話我沒有參與抱歉 |
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那到底我們要不要擴大跟美國其他方面的例如SMR核能還有航太關鍵的礦產等相關的合作跟技術呢市長這你有沒有了解市長 |
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跟我們報告因為我沒有參與到這個部分所以我也沒有辦法跟您在這邊做回答在場的有誰有參與何志偉應該沒參與吧你不要來搞亂還有我們之前一直在強調的就是非核供應鏈 |
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這個經濟部也做了非常多嘛這個有參與了吧 對不對你們也做了非常多那有沒有辦法藉由這一次的跟美國的談判能夠有一個什麼共同的基地啊或者是也就是技術的中心啊等等的讓你們認為說飛鴻工信業是未來跟美國 |
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可能說我們蘇美最重要有利基的商品那有沒有辦法有深化的合作你們經濟部你回答目前在美國有沒有什麼能夠深化供應鏈整合的合作可以拿出來這次談 |
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跟委員報告我們台美之間的合作在有一些科技面的部分像半導體半導體這個部分還有無人機這個部分其實過去都有一些技術合作的一些經驗剛剛委員提到的飛龍供應鏈的部分也是美方非常重視的部分 |
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對啊 未來我們跟美國的出口有這個跟其他相比有利基的嗎所以我們在這個出口管制上面會有很多的一些這個資訊的一個監控那如果這個大陸這邊有一些傾銷的行為的話我們也會有展開一些傾銷的一個調查那甚至就是說如果有違反這個相關的這個 |
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但是你們兩位都不知道現在目前台美正在談判的就是關稅談判 |
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內容你們都不知道但是有沒有辦法深化這樣子的產業你們也沒辦法知道這個產業合作是深化是目前來講我們會談到供應面合作的部分再跟謝委員報告好了好不好好 謝謝謝委員的資訊 謝謝下一位請王美惠委員資訊請 |
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主席我們現在經濟保證次國家環境部部長經濟部的副次長環境部的本部長 委員好 大家好今天的主委會長到現在大家都說最佳預算在日本來賓 |
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這份禮品大家應該是都會回去看之前的三年後對等的辦公室所以今天給大家等了等了萬一萬一就要接受這個四分鐘在這次你看我們嘉義市的八江街跟寶庭你看一下八江街長久以來 |
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都是一個 我跟蔡議員常常拜託我們水利署要去修正讓他能夠從台前來他的水路 他的事還可以去應用到的車流的環境 加速水災他不夠在這個過程當中你看到這種會怕到嗎 |
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這張是在八千多一屆七月二月做訪台的時候再一次給大家看到八千多長久以來是國家時代的野賣場的本事在那長久以來你們兩個單位跟電影都說要協助 |
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尤其在91年 水利署已經來管理也不夠在這個管理當中都沒有看到要怎麼去改變這個百姓區長久以來這個掩埋場在87年就崩潰 已經沒用了 |
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所以在這個風台上對我們南部 嘉義 台南 應用很大因為在這個規定當中風台的水災和看車我們不僅可以這個掩埋場最緊要4公頃因為都沒有看到要怎麼改善在這個規定當中 |
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你們知道嗎 如果未來還有風災呢這要怎麼處理 還要維修百姓的健康這這樣漏一漏 會不會影響到河流的百姓的健康安全沒錯 在這裡面 在我剛才跟你說到現在這是非常重要 |
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因為裡面你也有編一個水利署最緊背的文要去改善他不再在這個改善當中你敢不敢如何 要怎麼去做來 請回答一下 |
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保護委員 委員提出的建議我們也跟水利署協調過上游的部分環境部會來清除下游的部分水利署會來清除所以委員的問題我們會在這次趁著這次風災我們徹底來解決這個問題謝謝委員 |
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好 保庭 你說這樣已經有答案了是 嚴格本省 要求的就是說你的清除要多久 有什麼機會 有中長期嗎是不是可以一星期來 讓本省了解 你們要如何去做 |
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好 沒問題 謝謝委員 沒問題因為我覺得這不是本席說的你長久以來就要關心這個好不好因為這個要關心的我們一定要保持健康和安全所以要關心去處理 關心去做 以上好 謝謝王美惠委員下一位請張雅玲委員請 |
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好 我請交通部 運安會主委 教育部體育署運安會主委 教育部 鄭部長體育署 |
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我們先交通部部長好今天我想跟部長討論一下有關於夏天的水域安全的一個問題就是說這幾年來我們也可以看到越來越多的人不管是玩自由潛水 水肺潛水潛水活動非常的盛行再加上接下來的運動部他也會去推廣這個水域安全可是我收到了民間團體的陳情我發現 |
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我们现在在这三个月以内就已经有两起的人船碰撞有一死两重伤的一个问题那这个问题是怎么发生的是有潜水客被螺旋桨撞击 |
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那這不是一個單一的個案這是一個系統性的安全性的一個漏洞我想部長一定非常清楚什麼是風險 什麼是危險玩潛水活動本身有一些風險存在沒有錯但是他們現在是被螺旋槳撞擊這就是危險的問題 |
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民間開始呼籲要訂立人船必碰規則我知道我們現在在1977年是有相關的一些海上必碰規則國際公約但是公約處理的就是船跟船 人對人沒有處理人對船 人船之間的問題觀光署去年其實也有修訂了水域休憩活動管理辦法要求要配置潛水旗幟 |
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可是我想不管你再怎麼清楚的識別只要船隻沒有減速人員還是會受傷就像是我們畫的人行道一樣你畫了這些白馬線你只有去勸導 只有去宣導也沒有一些相對的規定那坦白說我們還是很難去避免這樣子的一個問題那現在美國 澳洲 紐西蘭 日本 |
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這些國家都有這個船舶接近潛水旗幟的時候要保持50到100公尺的距離並且降低船速夏威夷甚至有慢速無浪原則那我想問我們現在到底要怎麼辦呢因為航管局說這個船他只管商船漁業署說他只管漁船那那個觀光署說我就管這個潛水區域活動還是沒有人來處理這個部分我們總不可能再等到下一個人民出現的時候才來處理吧我想聽聽看部長您的態度是什麼 |
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報告委員確實這個議題轄管的單位相當多包含交通部包含農業部也都有還有地方政府也有光交通部裡面觀光署也有然後航港局也有確實這個議題我們必須要去面對因為已經發生事件了我們在船員法裡面對於駕駛船舶如何避免碰撞這個部分我們有明確的規範這個是針對商船跟航港局所管理 |
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對 那這個部分我們也會提供給漁業署對於這個規範的部分提供給他們這個部分我們都會提供這個沒有問題但是後續我覺得應該大家要來討論一下就是說是不是民團這邊也可以協助一下我們針對有在潛水的熱區我們除了航港局要掌握之外漁業署那邊也要掌握也要對漁船做宣導讓他們先知道說我們的熱區大概在哪些地方部長 因為時間有限我想我是不是可以要求就是說 |
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交通部是不是可以來折騰來協調好不好來協調各縣市政府我們是不是可以提出一份草案那我們這邊也請民間團體一起來協助我們來提出一個草案然後來試試看像小琉球縣已經有劃定樂區了是不是可以有些範圍先試行看看是不是可以這樣子三個月內好不好我們來協調三個月好謝謝那運安會主委抱歉因為時間很有限抱歉我先對不起運安會主委下一個好了我先叫體育署 |
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體育署 抱歉 因為時間很有限體育署 我想確定一下因為我之前一直在要求有關於狼師 狼教練應該要公告8月15號你們開會 那決議是什麼我可能會後再更為現在直接告訴我好不好 決議是什麼因為我沒有參與決議是不是會公告 會不會公告應該還在討論當中吧不對吧 應該有修正吧你們應該是有提議要修正吧是不是會修正31條 |
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跟委員報告因為我沒有參與我最近剛好去試運會好沒關係那你沒有參與那就算了那抱歉那運安會運安會我很快再15秒就好15秒時間到了好不好時間到了不要再贏了謝謝謝謝張委員的諮詢下一位請羅志強委員諮詢請主席有請主計長陳主計長請 |
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委員好主委長好追加預算是非常態的做法有合理 必要 急迫性當然可以增加換句話說不合理 非必要 非急迫就不該隨意增加我想請教這次追加預算的媒體宣傳費用總共是多少錢四點多億 |
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原預算是7.24億追加4.29億所以追加將近六成的宣傳經費我再想請教一下根據立法院預算中心的資料追加沒宣預算如果扣除中選會總共有多少個機關追加沒宣預算90個你知道多少機關迴遍率是百分之百 |
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百分之百你知道嗎都不知道19個來超過1000萬的14個那我再請教你追加通過的話114年度中央政府沒宣預算比113年增加多少錢如果追加通過增加多少錢也不知道2.51億增加27.85% |
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我要跟主席長說宣傳包裝美化賴清德總統好重要好急迫好必要要拿追加預算 急急如律令來去包裝賴清德總統民調現在下滑趕快追加預算補宣傳 |
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要嘛給綠媒 要嘛給綠友友要嘛給網軍 好好包裝很急呀 我看你們真的好急喔沒宣費超級的 有急迫性沒有關係這麼愛宣傳的政府我也無所謂啦我想請教你下一個更嚴肅的問題請問立法院是不是通過警消人士條例提高我們警消的所得替代率 退休保障 是不是 |
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是有沒有提高軍人的加薪 有沒有 是不是有請問妳 為什麼妳總預算不編這個部分呢像那個軍人的部分我們追加裡面才加薪我講的是我們軍人的待遇提高兩三萬的那個我們立法院的提案妳為什麼不編因為他也在申請釋憲當中胡說八道 |
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釋憲申請並不妨礙法律效力除非你今天大法官做出緊急處分凍結法律你當大家都是法律白癡嗎法律公佈就要執行釋憲結果出來以後那才會否決法律的效力整個政府都被違法亂證那我跟你講今天我要在這邊為什麼那麼生氣踐踏警消踐踏軍人 |
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過去這一年 羅志強 我們國民黨立法院黨團一路的來關注我們景蕭的退休的生活保障關注我們軍人保家衛國該有的待遇的提升都通過法律了主席 妳知道妳的命是誰在保護嗎遇到治安事件 火災妳的命是誰在保護嗎 妳知道嗎就是景蕭在保護啊 |
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國家如果為難誰保護你的命啊有外敵侵犯誰保護啊就是軍人啊所以除了你這個政府踐踏軍人 踐踏警消就只在今天爭取賴清德的包裝化妝費你們還真關心我們的警消跟軍人啊謝謝好 謝謝羅委員的諮詢 謝謝下一位請陳俊宇委員諮詢 請 |
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好 謝謝主席我們先請環境部彭部長環境部的彭部長還有經濟部次長經濟部的黃次長何次長何次長 對不起 |
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部長 次長午安我想請教一下我們這個能源永續的發展是政府的一個施政的一個重點那近期在宜蘭傳出這個陸域風電要在宜蘭開發的計畫那從計畫的開發基地來看是從這個宜蘭縣的武傑鄉到蘇澳沿海大概是7公里的一個範圍那要設置14部的一個風機消息一出之後那地方 |
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所有的民眾還有一些民代都已經這個強烈的反彈那對於這項的開發計畫可能會造成的生態影響還有這個景觀的破壞都非常高度的讓民眾存疑尤其在開發基地位處 |
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全國兩大水鳥保護區還有三大國家級的重要濕地都有非常豐富的珍貴生態資源那又是因為開發行為採取陸域開發的風電恐怕會 |
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造成低頻的這個噪音還有震動以及這個眩影等等對於宜蘭鄉親的一個日常生活會有直接一個不良的影響那基於這個環境保護還有生態的一個保育以及鄉親權益的原則 |
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本席在這個7月15號也發文給各單位要求相關單位必須充分的徵詢地方意見預防開發行為對環境所造成的一個負面影響那我在此我想先請教我們彭部長曾經在這個台東風電的這個案子過程當中您曾經表達過 |
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不鼓勵也不支持那對於業者在宜蘭沿岸將開發陸域風電的這個規劃您是否也抱持著相同的一個立場那環境部如何替宜蘭鄉親來嚴格把關 |
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好 謝謝委員 這個態度我也是一樣因為這個距離民眾的住宅還有特別珍貴的海岸線是非常敏感的所以我一樣是不鼓勵也不支持業者他有想要開發的權利但是環境部有環評審查的把關的一個機制那也跟委員報告因為近期有幾個也是類似的案子都被環境部整個都退回而且要求不予開發 |
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好 那市長您對於這個開發案那經濟部的立場是怎麼樣如果說在地方沒有共識之前我們經濟部是不是可以不同意他們來推動跟我們報告 這個只要地方不支持我們經濟部也不會支持好 那部長 市長您先請回我接續請我們交通部 我們陳部長 |
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部長午安 委員好我接續想請教部長一個問題就是這個鐵路高架的部分從去年6月環評通過之後那期間因為這個南陽溪橋必須要墊高的因素中規的這個期程有所延後那在今年4月份也曾經質詢過我們陳部長希望督促本案能夠盡速在上半年能夠核定也讓後續的這個補助款一併核定那縣府預算 |
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編列能夠順利進行的話這個工程才能夠繼續推進那在這個綜合規劃報告似乎在這期間有被退回的問題時至今日還沒有新的進度那我想請教部長就是這個宜蘭的鐵路高架它的中規是否遭遇到什麼樣的困難那是否可以加速推動 |
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確保這個工程能夠如期在明年順利來動工好 報告委員這個案子目前在交通部正在審議當中那我們會加速來審議那也會爭取在年底之前得到行政院的核定這個部分我們來努力加速好 |
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那也請部長就針對這個部分能夠掌握其成好看能不能跟我們這個高鐵延伸的部分能夠這個整個工程能夠並進來前進好 謝謝謝謝陳委員的諮詢下一位請陳培宇委員諮詢好 謝謝主席那有請教育部 謝謝教育部的陳部長 |
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響鐘 |
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好部長辛苦了中午都還沒休息我們快速討論一下是關於這個運動部即將升格但是應該有一些業務跟之前的體育署有關那我想我這邊還是要拜託部長持續幫我們看相關的進度喔在昨天晚上劉伯鈞還有石明錦這兩位非常重要的運動界的朋友發了一個聲明我不確定部長你有沒有看到就是關於在幾次的體育諮詢會議當中他們提出非常非常多 |
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實質的改革跟建議可是他們好像在後來的公開運動部的報告裡面沒有看到讓他們覺得有被採用那當然這個意見不是只有他們兩個的意見有非常多體育界的朋友都覺得非常非常的擔心那我知道運動部這中間的深隔的事情有非常多其實還是留在教育部裡面討論所以我想這邊還是要拜託部長持續協助尤其是新任的部長李洋部長 |
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他有一個在相關會議當中他也曾經是諮詢委員之一他提到所謂體育班的轉型這件事情我想跟部長您再次確認我每次都問你體育班的事情在未來9月9號運動部掛牌之後到底體育班的業務現在是留在教育部還是留在運動部 |
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體育班的這個申請所有相關事在運動部來管理但是體育班的教學當然還是在學校裡面進行所以他的一些升學所有的一些權益是這個運動部但是所有體育班的學生的學習跟輔導還是在 |
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還是在教育部裡面來督導來管理 |
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我時間有限不過我覺得聽起來有點怪怪的包含學生的升學綁著運動比賽成績而我們之前在講運動比賽成績過於注重其實就導致於學生變成所謂的奪牌工具人而不是一個運動員所以連李洋部長自己都先說了他要先是一個學生才可以是運動員所以我要拜託部長在未來 |
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這個事實上是我們在因應這個運動部以後大家共同努力的目標我們希望我們運動選手應該他的學科他的基本的洗脫能力不應該被遺忘然後被放棄應該要有一個更全面的一個全人的一個發展 |
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好 沒關係因為即將成立的運動部一定有非常多細緻的業務分工要跟教育部還有國教署這邊接軌那後續我們辦公室也會持續追蹤如何確保學生身為一個學生的學科能力不要被犧牲又不要影響他想要發展運動天賦的這一條路所以運動部跟教育部未來如何 |
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雙向接軌協助接住所有的運動員VS學生這樣好不好拜託部長所以我不知道部長有沒有機會未來積極的跟運動部展開跨部會跨部會的會議我想我們分工結隊是要合作的這個部分我們一定會 |
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會隨時保持這邊我希望部長您敬訴跟李楊部長可以碰面討論體育班轉型的問題在您過往的國教經驗跟您對於教育有愛的熱情的前提之下幫忙運動部把體育班轉型做好要拜託部長了 |
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那接下來要拜託部長我們在去年的3月份2024年的3月份在教育文化委員會我們有一個臨時提案當時已經很多委員都有簽署了我們希望體育署協助處理逐協對於民間友人民間人士的欠款相關整理資料可是到目前為止從去年 |
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三月到現在已經一年半我們辦公室都還是沒有收到不知道是因為體育署監督足協出現了困難還是足協決定適時抵抗體育署的監督這個部分可不可以拜託部長再幫我們追蹤進度 |
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可以 我接委員提醒我知道這一個年監察院都有糾正對 好 拜託部長接下來部長這個獨家新聞快速跟您說時間到了 我們就請那個好不好謝謝好 謝謝這個實驗的執行拜託 拜託部長陳靄平委員執行 請會後我再跟委員請教謝謝請 |
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你好 我們請總統府跟國安會國安會副秘書長好兩位副秘書長好副秘書長 我很重視我們的這個總統府的安全查核 |
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那國安事務的人事的這個背景的調查我很關注那所以我在立法院有提出國家精密保護法第14條修正案是希望透過完整強化跨部會的安全審查機制來確保敏感的這些政務人員或者是這些事務人員都能夠通過這樣的審核 |
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那也是要確保說過去像國安會高層吳釗燮幕僚成為共鐵的狀況不再出現所以這是我們要做的事情那我注意到這一次總統府的這次追加預算在國安會的人員維持費項目裡面有增加200萬元大概是過去是1億7328萬 |
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所以这里面有包含办理机关业务所需要的约聘人员的待遇这边我要请教的是副秘书长 官会的副秘书长这个约聘的约顾人员是不是同样纳入安全查核的机制是不是有跟去年12月最新的各机关去办理特殊查核职务一栏表里面的也是在这个范围里面吗 |
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然後查核範圍的嚴謹程度是否跟正式職員相同還是有存在一些差別待遇那最後就是說國防部他的查核的一個辦法裡面受查核人除了經表查核書面說明面紡甚至還會實施科學移測也就是可能就實施這個測謊儀來協助我想請問未來總統府對於安全審查有怎麼樣的做法 |
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國安會首先跟委員報告國安會現在所有揭秘的人員都要接受安全查核至於剛才委員提到的所謂的科學移測按照目前的法定規定應該是法定的情報機關它有接受移測的義務對 那我是說 |
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最近我看包含總統府 國安會 憲兵二一 引東連續發生的共諜案我們有沒有針對這些人士這些未來的約聘人員有加強審核的方法謝謝委員的專業跟委員報告一下關於移策的部分過去是每年一次在委員專業的建議之後呢半年一次那現在總統府 |
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獵館的人員也持續的在增加包含他的出境作業都依照委員過去的槌尋跟建議分層分類頻率都增加那特殊茶盒的部分呢也增加了三倍以上跟委員報告謝謝副秘書長謝謝那也希望副秘書長 |
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共同來重視這個議題那特別是我已經提過很多次了這個國安高層旁邊那有這樣子的共諜的這個案件那必須要未來要 |
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防止這一次的事情再次發生那這個相關的查核方式我們其實有跟廉政署還有跟各個不同的政風單位討論過那所以未來要怎麼樣來去共同來創造出一個新的審查機制我想這個是我希望總統府也要依照你們的用人的方便性跟 |
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安全性都要綜合考量感謝委員委員過去在質詢的部分有分三類對象 頻率 項目我們都會持續精進謝謝委員甚至包含機關首長可能都要有 現在我們五長部分包含所有的作業人員只要進出辦公室的 |
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全部都要做安全查核以及約聘僱的部分全部都有還有廠商如果待比較久的都會去做謝謝副秘書長那副秘書長我最後再提一件事情就是說如果未來還有發生類似的共諜事件直屬的主官或主管可不可以有一些連帶的行政責任我們做出相關的這個成長機制可不可以 |
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呃這個部分待會去研議但是這些不想發生就是好謝謝副秘書長好謝謝謝謝陳委員的質詢下一位請黃建豪委員質詢請好謝謝主席主席我們請這主計長陳淑芝主計長跟總統府代表主計長總統府的副秘書長還有 |
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委員好副委員好 主席長好主席長一開始你看我們預算法第79條我想大家很多委員提到說是要因為有重大事故經費超過法定預算的時候來編列那我看這一次的預算內容其實追加預算內容很多都非常的簡略都沒有進行實質的說明所以主席長你認為這一次的追加預算是不是很多有這個狀況是時程太趕嗎還是你就這樣子讓它過去了 |
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其實它是最佳預算的表格它跟總預算是有一點不同主委長 對不起 聲音太小聲是 最佳預算的表格本身就跟總預算是有一點點不同這個部分我們以後會來加強另外這個部分因為我們當初被刪減的一個項目它有指定項目它的百分比很高而且等於是說它又不可以流用所以造成在執行上整個業務是有困難的所以這個部分我才提出最佳 |
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來主席講我們從這一家預算署裡面看到大家提供的說明裡面都只有提供到一級用途的這個科別目這個二級機關的稅數二級的用途科別目都沒有提供分地總表沒有提供然後還有中央政府各機關資本支出的分析總表還有各機關資本支出的分析表 |
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這些在整個追加預算這本裡面也看不到我想問一下這個是符合您追求這個格式這是您追求的格式嗎還是說是漏掉還是沒有變它來不及變 |
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因為以往的例子他都沒有提供二級用途別如果有委員有需要我們就會可以提供這個部分來給委員來做參考審查的一個好 主席長因為時間有限了沒關係那就請會後繼續提供再來有幾個案子剛剛前面有幾個委員提到包含說這個要問到總統府我想問一下我們總統府這邊何富密 |
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到底這個換車編列了一百多萬要來幫這個我們國安會這邊換車換車是重大事故嗎還是有重大事故要換車為什麼換這個車為什麼變在追加預算裡面我請國安會來回應 謝謝委員好根據這個換車是因為那個車子的這個車齡啊已經十幾年了 |
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我知道啊我是說你為什麼會放在追加預算那如果十幾年你應該理論上在本預算裡面第一個要把本預算你去年在編的時候就知道這個車十幾年要不然就等現在正在編列這個115年總預算的時候你放進來嘛你放在追加預算你就名字不符嘛預算法第79條講說要因為重大事故我看起來換車不是重大事故啊這第一件事情沒關係那第二件事情我還是要問一下我們的總統府請問一下總統的住宿 |
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總統 副總統的這個專書也編列在追加預算裡面請問一下上半年跟下半年有什麼重大事故讓總統需要出一本專書來說明報告 這是屬於總統府的這個文獻館他們的預算那文獻館當然我想 |
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中華民國台灣過去的歷史事件他會去做爬梳跟脈絡的整理那也跟委員報告一下我們這所謂的重大事故就以我的著見來看當時候預算的動山連總統府的維安都可能調度上面會出現一些治安難行的部分可能 那沒有發生嘛所以要差一點發生當時候也謝謝委員的支持所以要拜託委員支持我們的預算現在包含差旅費 |
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我們總統府很多主管都自己墊墊這些差旅費了所以要拜託委員多多支持這個啦 我再講啦剛剛講換車啦我隨便舉例光是總統府這樣子小項目的光是換車跟駐坐這個專總統副總統專它就沒有急迫性也不是符合重大事故嘛沒有 我都接受你說總統要出書這個我沒有意見不是總統出書 |
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真的不是但不應該放在追加預算還應該放在正常的預算裡面你可以再編在115年116年的這個本預算裡面報告委員這是雞蛋蛋生雞的問題我們預算被刪成這樣子一定要追加所以很抱歉請您多支持要再拜託謝謝好 謝謝黃委員的諮詢下一位請馬文君委員諮詢請 |
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謝謝主席 麻煩請主計長還有國防部陳主計長 國防部的副部長副部長好委員好 |
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主席長 副部長好這次行政院提出的追加預算案國防部的部分是63億餘元 接近64億其中軍事官兵各項勤務加擠的部分大概有53億多 |
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還有其他的項目大概將近10億元那就這個部分本席在這裡要特別強調114年國防部公務預算當中攸關國軍的心想以及各項家籍的人事費用並沒有刪除任何一毛錢副部長對吧 |
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然後114年國防部的調整第一項預備金總額也達到28億元這個也是一毛都沒刪而且只有增加對不對那在大罷免期間還是有側翼跟媒體惡意的攻擊說在野黨亂煽動預算這裡我們要特別的澄清尤其薪水如果是給官兵我們都非常的支持 |
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不過這一次的追加預算感覺上有點像趁火打劫為什麼我想要請教主席主席長剛剛您是不是有回答委員說我們這一次追加提這個追加預算是8月4號要求各單位提出的 |
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8月4號對不對我們事實上很早就在做準備很早是多少很早是多少我們在六七月的時候就開始在一月的時候就在準備六七月六七月就在準備好那我們現在看到你即使六七月就在準備可是那時候要求各單位提出來的時候 |
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這個可以看得出來我們在去年沒有編列預算的情況之下總統分別在今年的4月7月公佈要各項加急國防部有沒有估算大概需要多少錢就針對那個總統公佈的部分戰鬥加急也好戰鬥部隊加急也好志願役加急這個需要多少錢而且國防部本來預劃這些錢要從哪裡來有沒有一個方向 |
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誰來打報委員我們今年在預劃的時候這加急的部分我們預估是97億97億 是現在勒 |
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我們是把這個人為分和第二預備金都把它列記進去那時候我們預劃的來源就是人事費用跟那個預備金嘛對不對過去的往例也都是這樣那今天如果沒有追加這個預算其實就會用這些調整的調解的預算來支付嘛所以你現在又用追加預算要把它補上來這樣子的目的 |
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那你其他原來的預備金跟那些人事費用的那些經費你們要怎麼打算怎麼如何運用我想預備金基本上來講我們在用途別尋往力都是如此但是今年的天災特別多那我們也會把這些預算有一部分的寬固在現在已經九月了你如果說提到天災因為天災的發生每年都 |
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所以你如果還沒有發生的時候你本來要用在這裡那你現在突然全部通用預備金其實這個已經有點說不過去因為你當時已經規劃出來了這有點像趁火打劫我剛剛講的所以在這裡我們 |
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要特別強調的我們還是希望薪水都應該要好好的給我們的軍事官兵可是我要在這裡要特別問到的是我們沒有預算都可以調節或追加預算那我們已經三讀通過總統也已經公佈軍人加薪三萬為什麼不編怎麼可以不編 |
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我想我們部長早上也講得非常清楚因為這個我們是行政團的議員就司法性來講現在已經提出釋憲司法性你已經三讀而且總統已經公佈如果依法你是應該要編的 |
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如果你都已經先設想說我們市縣是會失敗的市縣的結果你們都已經先想到的意思嗎那大法官是可以這樣控制的嗎所以就這個部分我們還是希望這個部分 |
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國防部要審慎的考量你必須 你雖然是行政團隊的一部分可是必須為所有軍事官兵據理力爭尤其是已經立法通過的主計長也在後面希望你們這個部分要好好的想清楚而且必須要做明確的交代 謝謝好 謝謝馬委員的諮詢下一位 林建啟林建啟 林建啟委員不在 |
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魯明哲 魯明哲 魯明哲委員不在吳思堯委員請謝謝主席 有請行政院秘書長行政院的 |
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還有李遠他是部長 他現在經濟部長現在是行政院秘書長沒關係 兩個身分都剛好要問他還有李遠部長李部長 來 |
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大家辛苦了我們今天在進行的追加預算就是要為總預算之亂史上審查最混亂刪減最高凍結最嚴格的這個總預算之亂要撥亂反正我只是非常遺憾剛剛還有在野黨的委員說追加預算的提出是在趁火打劫我的天哪誰為國家的總預算放了這把火 |
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是在野黨的委員放了這把火行政部門在救火現在還有在野的委員說我們提追加預算是趁火打劫更不要說追加預算是韓國瑜院長也提出來的建議希望讓國家的施政恢復正軌預算能夠撥亂反正下一頁 |
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秘書長您現在是以秘書長身份正來著未來可能就是用經濟部長的身份但是跟您也相關我的呼籲讓市政回歸正軌就支持追加預算不只是特定項目被二砍二刪要補回來對於地方政府的一般性補助款跟各部會的所需預算都要一視同仁而不是差別對待下一頁 |
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但是很遺憾在野黨的委員沒有合理的審查還在報復性的刪減總統府監察院還是要被全刪還有八個部會的預算要被再砍當中我很重視的是媒體宣傳費4.29億要被二砍了下一頁 |
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沒宣費有多重要打擊假消息譬如說風災重建 災民需要正確的訊息都需要媒體宣傳費對不對在下頁譬如說防制詐騙打詐 |
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沒錢怎麼宣導除了這筆4.2億的沒宣費要被在野黨再砍之外連內政部警政署的詐騙宣導的費用4025萬也要被砍再下一頁 |
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防疫要沒宣防災要宣導沒錢怎麼搞我請秘書長很快的再次喊話這些沒宣費都是重要的證物要讓人民知道但是又再一次被惡砍你們很難承受來秘書長 |
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謝委員 事實上我們新聞傳播的業務主要是要辦理國家整體的施政還有重要的政策 重大事件防災 還有緊急應變比較重大議題的這個宣導剛剛委員也提到了打炸 封災這個都要正確的支持讓所有的災民知道這樣的消息另外一個 就比如說我們現在決議如果要普發現金的話 |
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那我們也需要告訴人民怎麼領然後甚至於在這種情況下可能會有詐騙集團不要受騙那我想這個都需要媒體宣傳好 謝謝祕書長請在野黨的委員不要成為詐騙集團的幫兇喔我們需要沒宣費來打擊假消息有請黎原部長 祕書長請回 |
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| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
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就因為沒了沒宣費我們前進大阪市博下一頁的計畫在下一頁只能用民間來募資部長文化人何其辛苦啊被政治追殺還要募資集資去做文化外交您來反映一下這個辛苦吧 |
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好 其實這一次我們去大阪試博因為沒有沒宣費之後民間主動在網路上募款大概兩三天就募到了六百億那他的募款過程我完全不知道我看了一下也覺得嚇一跳就是像這種事情文化人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
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會非常同情我們那台灣的文化好 謝謝喔這個可以了 這個私底下報告所以說 對不起好 馬上 下一個階段也有700萬的錄款第二階段請部長再幫民間民進加以法令好 主席啊 |
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878億每個值也4分鐘你們要砍也要勇敢站在這裡告訴大家要砍的有道理而不是在這裡不敢讓大家回答不敢讓部會來辯護就是為砍而砍我再次抗議主席這種處理喔 謝謝我在幫你們好不好我在幫你們開快車你怎麼會這樣講呢 |
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你說的內容我都沒有comment喔要處理 等一下處理再來講好不好下一位請蔡益瑜委員質詢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
15377.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
好 謝謝昭偉那我們是不是請考試院副秘書長考試院副秘書長 請人事總處人事長 蘇龍人事長 請跟教育部教育部政部長委員午安好 |
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15413.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
我們今天在處理最佳預算在處理要把被刪除的預算來適度的來做一些補回然後讓機關可以運作這件事事實上在場的所有的部門都有一樣的需求 |
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| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
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但是我看起來 大概在野黨不打算這一筆給你們過所以你們要通過這一筆預算難度非常高所以我在這裡我直接想要跟你們講另外一個層次的問題就是說 事實上你們知不知道現在基層很多的預算就算有錢 沒有人可以執行這你們清楚沒有那去討盤就沒問題了人事長 |
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你說欠缸 欠缸去補分還是怎樣服務在政府機關的部...你直接說一下我的答案啦我還沒有秀出這一頁你就看到了嘛因為我有看到你眼睛裡面的那一種期待我發現 厲害那這個考試院呢 |
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15467.166 |
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15495.523 |
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土木的一個缺工這個因為有教考任用整個四個環節那在我們考試的部分我們最近也開始要做一個看怎麼樣子能夠改善的部分我跟你們講啦現在整個基層因為這個土木類的一個人才公務員就已經不足了你看我們工程類的缺額從112年缺1400到現在已經都缺到了2000人那每年報考的人數一直減少 |
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這個問題我覺得考試院跟人事總署你們要正視不然我們所有的機關你送給他錢他沒辦法去執行因為他的工程人才不夠我跟你們講我這一次在嘉義我在處理南境大排他整個未來工程的時候主要在頂端要農水署 農水署說我們欠人會打第五河川署 第五河川署說他也沒人 |
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15521.684 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
15526.826 |
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都有一個大改觀政府改觀政府說我們這是非六都的機關我們這個建設處的人員更少水上港公所說我們那個公所建設區的也沒人哇 全部沒人所以你知道後來我怎樣嗎我就去找國軍 |
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15540.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
15547.839 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
因為整個南京大牌中間有一段有一段是空軍第四聯隊我就拜託空軍說不然你來幫我們處理發包就好設計一樣給這個專業單位設計發包的執行能不能請國軍來協助國軍抓到我說不要啦 我們這裡阿兵哥現在就沒有大專兵 |
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15560.412 |
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15587.349 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
現在這個阿兵哥對於這個工程類事實上專業可能不太夠所以他們也是沒辦法來協助這一條水利大牌的發包這個我處理起來我覺得好無奈所以我還是覺得整個工程界沒辦法把人才留在我們的公務機關全部跑到民間第一個薪資的問題在野黨唯一不敢砍的就是公務員的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
15588.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
15599.763 |
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他們不會砍所以你們應該好好的去調整我們整個薪資的一個處理讓這些人才可以留在我們的公務機關這樣我們有餘生我們可以發佈處理第二要怎樣讓這些人才可以進入公務機關這個要請教育部了因為我們知道 |
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15608.226 |
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15612.112 |
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我們這裡二類組的優秀的都跑去電機都跑去機械要來淘寶的比較少所以現在有好多大學都把土木系都關掉了所以我認為教育部你應該協助現在有土木系的大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
15624.71 |
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15631.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
要多去開一些公費生那這些公費生咧未來讓他可以留在機關一流的人在我們這裡所有單位的機關靠我就替我們國家做事情不然你知道潮汐那幾個公務人員他們也沒辦法你們這裡的工庫發包處理每包都在那裡照鏢就花很多的時間沒有效率了啦好不好這塊我們再檢討一下讓這一些工程類的這個機關可以順利運唱這個是很重要的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
15659.073 |
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謝謝蔡委員的質詢 謝謝下一位請劉徐廷委員質詢謝謝主席 主計長有請來 陳主計長委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
15680.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
15699.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
主席長午安你們負責把控整個政府的支出嘛對不對主計管出財政管入嘛對不對那麼這次追加預算案你們有沒有做過通盤的整理跟檢視啊我們有整理還是有整理有檢視你們覺得這邊的額度跟各項目都是合理的嗎 |
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15700.58 |
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15717.286 |
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其實主要項目這裡面就是說第一個就是那個我們那個國防部加薪調薪的部分嘛那再來就是原民會他依照應該核給的一個加薪該三萬塊沒有編那個大家都已經講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
15718.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
15739.016 |
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不是 這個是我們在114年針對國防部害海洋行為的我今天不是要問你這個啦我說你這次追加預算有這麼多好幾百億對不對除了最大宗的一般補助款之外其實各項目基本上在黨看了一下就發現你等於是把上一次立法院在審查預算全部加回來就叫做追加預算可是你有沒有仔細的去做把關啊 |
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15740.106 |
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15754.561 |
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原來是那個三減的部分定額三減的部分那是403億那我們現在恢復是133億那主要是因為它裡面它有一個禁止流用我只問你一個事嘛就是說你有沒有針對各個項目先做大體上的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
15755.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
15769.186 |
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我們原則上是因為他執行困難我們才辦理追加執行困難還辦追加 講得真好 來我舉幾個例子啦原民會為了因應族群委員改成屋脊子說要增列18名公務員所以編了追加預算人事費508萬2000元先不說這500多萬元 |
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15788.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
只夠給九個名額的預算我們後來溝通的時候發現你的法制作業都還沒完成啊也就是說不管你要加九個人還是加十八個人今年年底前都不可能完成法制作業那你當然就不可能用掉任何一毛錢嘛那為什麼可以提追加呢好 這一個 |
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15810.66 |
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另外一個同樣是園民會南島民族論壇六年計畫追加預算一千九百七十六萬九千元可是本年度也沒有剩幾個月了嘛對不對按照年度然後我們還剩下仔細的跟他討論一下我們到底能夠完成多少計畫結案前可以花多少錢算出來大概需要兩百七十四萬跟你追加的總額是一千九百七十六萬 |
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15811.44 |
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15836.173 |
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警政署編列打炸媒宣費4000萬元這前面講打炸影片我們在委員會的時候討論過因為有凍結要先看影片的品質所以你在媒體脫波投放你沒有辦法用那麼多的錢所以刪減了這個4000萬元然後你現在又把4000萬追加回來追加回來警政署也講我根本不可能在這麼短的時間內把這個預算重新招標執行完畢反此種種都表示你這個預算的編列 |
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15837.774 |
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15852.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
跟你真實的需求跟未來的執行率都會造成更大的困擾那主計處你真的有把關嗎組長我再給你一個機會回答一次你們真的有針對這些部會提上來的這些各項追加預算的項目做過整理跟把控嗎有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
15853.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
15880.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
我們也是要請各單位他針對他實際的需求來提出來所以這個部分我們也是一再的跟單位講就是說請他要本說能夠執行完畢為主的一個時間比較緊張沒有那麼多時間可以一一細究但是一直媒體也好或者是大家在傳也好有上面的長官要交代就是把之前刪掉的預算全部加回來就叫追加有這件事嗎 主席長不是那為什麼編出這樣的預算呢 |
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我們被刪了四百多億的這個錢除了636之外那四百多億我們採體一百三十幾億啊沒關係啦 每個案子啊自己有困難的部分採體啊我剛剛跟你講的三個例子顯然都沒有困難而且會造成你執行率你萬一真的給他追加給他照案通過你反而會造成接下來執行率的困難本席把話講在前頭追加預算是真的有需要才追加才符合精神嘛 |
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如果只是把之前刪掉的數量要討一口氣所以把它追加回來你不考慮時間不考慮執行率不考慮必要性不但沒辦法好好運用公帑還會讓行政立法之間的猜忌更加嚴重無助緩和草原的緊張關係各案我們待會審查的時候再來嚴格把關但我希望主計處做好初步把關的責任不要編出這麼奇奇怪怪的預算可以嗎好 謝謝 |
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劉委員的諮詢下一位林黛樺林黛樺林黛樺委員不在郭育群委員請諮詢有請教育部跟文化部文化部可以稍後教育部的鄭部長文化部的李部長stand by |
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15968.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
15991.615 |
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委員好部長早安 辛苦了我想這個少子化的衝擊其實已經不是未來會發生而是正在發生當中我們一直強調這個即時教育有多麼的重要我們也希望能夠投入更多的資源來即時教育的培養讓很多的學生能夠在畢業之後他也許可以跟產學合作可以直接進入到相關的一些產業 |
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但是事實上殘酷的事實是目前我們看到了所有的這個即時教育即時學校的一個招生的人數持續的下滑甚至有一些學校連科系都有可能招不到學生那我想這已經凸顯到了這個少子化的一個困境 |
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16024.927 |
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那目前我們知道在這個禁止教育的行政跟督導的這個項目我們編列了110.81億的一個預算那到目前為止截至目前為止我們的執行率是六成等於說我們還有四成要繼續的努力 |
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16044.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
那這個其實也凸顯了三個方面我提供給部長來做一些參考包含就是在經費的效益上另外在我們的招生制度是不是也應該要改變再來長期的一個規劃跟藍圖的部分那我想在經費的部分我們是不是真的有用在這個學生的學習跟他的一個學業的 |
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16063.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
還有就是技職的一個能力的這個部分是不是真的有在落實還是大部分我們補助的這些經費只是用在所謂的帳面的計畫沒有實際去改善整個所有的技職的技能的一個困境那第二剛剛我提到這個招生的困難的部分 |
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16064.443 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
16090.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
那招生其實這個名額其實跟市場的需求目前為止看到的是嚴重的脫節當中那我們教育部有沒有可能要檢討現行的一個招生制度有沒有考慮就是部分的學校可以轉型成為所謂的專業培養他們的這些所謂的技能跟產學的合作而不是只是在一味的一個補助這個提供給你們做參考另外在這個長期的藍圖的部分 |
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16092.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
16120.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
我想這個未來十年 技職教育的方向其實應該要持續而且我們應該是要轉型那我想這個結構上的一個轉型是不是有一個更清楚的藍圖在這邊是不是請部長時間有限 簡短回應是 我想這個有關剛才委員所提的事實上是一個很好的思考方式我們過去這個類科太多我們怎麼樣去有一些專業科目的這樣一個專科學校我想這是我們來努力 |
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16121.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
16136.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
我想這個教育部不能只是用錢去撐住這個數字我們要求的其實是應該用制度去創造技職學生他們將來的一個出路我覺得這個應該是我們今天的重點那之後其實我們還有很多長時間可以在我們的這個院會當中來做討論接下來我請文化部文化部的李部長請 |
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16148.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
16168.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
委員好不好意思因為今天時間真的非常趕大家都在接力我想語言已經不是只有溝通的一個工具其實更是一個文化的重點的核心我想國家語言發展法其實上路已經多年了但是到目前為止這個相關的認證制度或者是師資的一個培育教材的一個標準到目前為止其實沒有看到完整的一個落實 |
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16170.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
16189.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
我想請文化部來回應這四點就是政策的落實上面我們是不是有這個語言認證的一個制度跟師資培育的一個具體的一個時程如果有具體的時程之後提供給我辦公室再來就是國家語言發展中心其實跟教育部跟園民會之間是不是有可能會有分工不清的一個狀況 |
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16190.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
16205.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
如果碰到了這個分工不清或者是他們的任務上面有重疊我們怎麼樣來釐清那另外就是在人才培育的部分那目前其實語言的師資嚴重的不足那在這個部分我們怎麼克服第四點其實跟我們的預算相關 |
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16206.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
16229.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
那321億的一個國家語言發展的一個方案在115年結束之前文化部能不能夠提供給我們一個具體的一個成果跟指標那這個我們可能事後我提供給文化部事後再提供好不好事後給我們一些書面的答覆好嗎請你部長事後再提供給郭委員好 謝謝我會事後答好好 謝謝謝謝部長好 謝謝主席現在要請蘇清泉委員質詢請 |
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16239.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
16247.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
謝謝主席 我請邱部長還有石崇良邱部長 石崇良部長 總部長來了沒有 來了兩位部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
16261.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
16278.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
你好這個傳承啊 邱部長辛苦了謝謝辛苦好 我就因為時間很短就直接切入主題第一個救災的600億 600多億裡面有沒有醫療的 |
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16280.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
16293.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
基層的還有衛生所受災上次在大院會質詢的時候我有提到院長也有同意那現在我沒有看到你們有編任何預算 |
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16293.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
16318.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
好的謝謝委員的關心我們基層醫療院所包括醫院的一個受損的情況或者是他們在職業上的一個困境這個部分在第一時間我們都有去調查那災區的所有的醫療院所的受災的狀況以及他們在職業上有什麼困難都可以最大的協助那後續當然 |
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16320.746 |
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在當在區所有的醫院包括醫師公會他們所提出的一些訴求我們也都有好好的研議包括在 |
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16345.62 |
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合理的日 月的合理日是 或者是說在診察會的方面我們都已經就是說你如果沒辦法這件事變賣出來或是說在內部你可以用檢報那些基金來補 要補密補有啦 我們檢報那些 我們檢報都有準備基金 |
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所以我們在估算過啦南區健保署的共管會議也都開過會議當然如果說我們有足夠的經費當然我們就會補得比較多如果不然的話我們本身在健保的一個預算裡面就可以來支付再來就是你這最佳預算最佳預算800多億裡面醫療我看只有十幾億嘛 |
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16394.845 |
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是不是那你石崇良署長你說要答應給護理人員的我看是有變一些醫師重症的部分沒有 |
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16413.028 |
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這個是因為蘇委員所問的這個是另外在健保總額裡面我們編的那這個部分我們會有編有足夠的一個經會希望能夠來提升我們第一線 |
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尤其在急重症的醫療人員特別是婦理的同仁應該有的一個待遇這個部分有希望能夠在逐步的來調升提高這幾戶來提升他們的待遇還有最後就是那個韌性醫療這個特別預算5900億這裡 |
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16436.03 |
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16445.305 |
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你有衛福部這邊好像有兩百一左右是 兩百一那我有提戶待決議的藥品的部分好像 |
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16464.596 |
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也沒有 我感覺這裡的三個醫生我們衛生 我們醫護醫療這邊好像不被重視感覺很壞主席單位這樣是不是對的委員報告 其實在藥品的韌性方面我們本身就有編了110個計畫在進行那也針對 |
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16495.122 |
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那115年度那所有相關的韌性應該做的工作譬如說我們缺藥的機制補藥的機制那在健保署方面也非常用心的還有持藥署都有用心的來不管是缺藥的一個機制的一個應應以及說如果有應應到要品因為價值成本高提升成本的話這個部分健保署這個部分也有很好的一個機制來做好一個應應的那個 |
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16519.375 |
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措施 請委員放心這三個保安經理會來辦公室跟大家討論一下 好不好好 沒問題 這都很重要這維護到用藥的權益維護部還有食藥署 健保署都已經做好預算我們是非常的謝謝蘇委員的諮詢那麼請這個部長要接任的市部長跟我們蘇委員所報告 |
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16527.719 |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請衛福部部長 |
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委員好 |
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好部長好最近辛苦了這邊想跟您請教一下其實在今年總預算審查的時候我就有問過衛福部說這樣子衛福部的預算被大幅的刪減之下到底會影響哪一些業務那當時其實衛福部給我的回應是包括說這個尾半費刪減了10%會導致幼兒的專責醫師的管理費短缺那影響的幼兒人數大概是2萬人然後也有跟我說其實全台480家醫院 |
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聘用的護理人員會更加困難導致護理人力的流失影響民眾就醫的權利那甚至也跟我提到說其實會影響到全台109家醫院總共5325床會執行住院整合照護服務這一些都會增加負荷那甚至還有兒童的口腔預防保健等等的服務都會影響民眾的就醫品質 |
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16616.69 |
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那還有兩個我非常在意的就是說這個預算被刪掉之後就會更難監測全國社區呼吸道病源跟腸病毒實際流行的趨勢跟病毒變化的情形等於是會直接影響到傳染病疫情的防治的準備跟防疫的作為以及在我們國際機場還有港口設置檢疫站跟執行入境旅客的檢疫 |
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都很可能變成說沒有辦法及時的攔查到傳染病從境外移入的狀況影響到社區的安全那以上等等都是在審查預算的時候衛福部給我的答案那我現在就要問了請問這一次的追加預算有沒有把以上這些項目納入有的話是不是在追加預算之後以上這些問題可以獲得解決呢 |
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16668.41 |
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16689.938 |
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好的 謝謝我想剛剛委員所提的是我們當時因為在大量凍結預算所產生的一個狀況的一個我們的擔心那當然謝謝大院的支持讓我們的預算能夠得到解凍那大部分這些工作我們都能夠持續在進行 |
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16715.205 |
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那在這樣的另外當然也有刪減的部分還是有很重要必須要做的工作包括您所提到關心不管是防疫方面的事情或者是幼兒的一個專責的一個照顧的一個相關的工作優化兒童照顧這個都需要再補相當相當的經費才能夠讓他讓兒童的一個照顧能夠更加的周全沒有受到影響 |
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所以很希望能夠在這個部分給我們這個部分的幫忙 謝謝好 謝謝部長這個就是我希望衛福部趁這個機會再多做說明然後多讓民眾更直接的感受到這一次的追加預算到底對衛福部對民眾就醫的權益有什麼幫助那是不是可以請更清楚的同仁明確的告訴我例如這一次的完善兒童醫療網路計畫裡面追加兩千一百萬 |
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16744.395 |
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然後護理人力的政策的整備中長程計畫追加2200萬還有提高國家重要癌症篩檢的經費追加6600萬這三筆明明都非常的重要那剩下44秒可不可以請部長哪一位同仁告訴我們這三筆經費為什麼這麼重要 |
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16764.56 |
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因為這三筆都分布在不同的司可能沒時間跟委員報告那這三筆都是分別需要護理人力還有癌症篩檢這兩筆護理人力的話因為因為癌症篩檢我們要做更多的一個輔導 |
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16785.576 |
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16799.827 |
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還有加上胃癌的一個篩檢所以這個是我們大概要一萬人所以因為胃癌篩檢現在我們只有成效相當重要對於我們要達到癌症死亡率降低三分之一裡面是一個非常關鍵的所以我們要趕快進行來保護 |
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16800.527 |
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16809.777 |
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人民的健康所以這個部分癌症篩檢非常的必要那在護理的同仁方面在三班護病比的方面我們是希望能夠增淚了兩千多萬來希望穩定我們的護病好 我們再給委員資料好啦 謝謝部長我就是要講這個都很需要 |
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你們要嚴簡易改用最簡單的方式用最短的速度告訴我們為什麼這個追價預算這麼重要我們有做事想做事就要讓大家知道好不好好 我們穩定護理人力加強兒童的照顧 謝謝謝謝 我們現在會請楊瓊英委員自行請事先報我一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
16845.378 |
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16846.945 |
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謝謝主席 本席邀請主席長陳主席長請 |
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委員好主席好我們今天來討論114年中央總預算的追加預算首先今天送審進來那朝野有一定的溝通的一個基礎這也可以理解這是一個折衝的方案但是我仍要強調過去反對追加預算來作為可能折衝方案它不是立法院是行政院 |
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16891.886 |
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因為在2月11號的時候總統那麼邀集了五院來協商立法院的韓院長就立即提出希望行政院別針對於總預算去做這個複議那並也拋出以追加預算的方式來解套也承諾會跟朝野各黨團來做協商不過行政院是拒絕的 |
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16904.671 |
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16930.829 |
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坚持一定要提总预算的复议案结果呢你们现在八月份又自己提出追加预算希望国会来同意这跟你们在施政有很多的政策是一样的也就是着实经费毫无准则那么这一次的追加预算636亿呢地方的补助款你本来就年初就应当要依法编列但是你们不仅自己违法还乱砍 |
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16932.43 |
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16955.916 |
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韓院長到了5月份喔 到了5月份喔他又一直在提醒行政院你可以用追加的方式啊但行政院卻說要提復議結果被否決了 又否決了到了5月份呢你們又用一個方式來砍地方的補助款來對幹立法院現在8月份又要追加補上所以本校請問這麼大的一個變化請教主席長 |
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16959.658 |
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16963.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
二月份當時拒絕提追加的為什麼 請說 |
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当初不是说要提因为一般我们以往是追加都大部分到年度中间才提一般也是这样然后当初是因为它三减里面它有一个要三减自行三减636的这个问题那当初就是说经过考量以后三减是有困难因为除了636之外呢它三减的 |
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1439的部分涉及到很多業務單位它是有不能留用有涉及到整個有困難所以妳現在的提問不就是拒絕溝通嗎人家早就跟妳說要怎麼做不就是拒絕溝通嗎絕對不要再政治的操作所以本席要再請問妳們的考量跟最後的決策到底是誰決策要這麼做的 |
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不是因為本身我們已經2075三檢之後要三檢不是要1439三檢之後要三檢636在國防外交方面三檢是有它的困難還有一般依法律的部分如果說是在人事會的部分也是會有它的困難所以我們才 |
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提了几个案子去给上面来做决策但是像我们本来是给上面做决策所以本席要告诉你韩院长代表立法院跟你们来沟通协调但是是拒绝沟通的是谁是行政院就是着实经非就是让人民搞不清楚方向也是行政院所以我希望未来的行政院不要再把人民的民生建设来当为筹码 |
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來威脅人民 來威脅立法院我希望真正的來落實依法行政跟服務人民可以答應如此的方向來做嗎事實上我們本來就是如此啦好 所以本席在這邊要嚴正的強調行政跟立法協調溝通 |
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不是說行政院說一套做一套因為在這一次的總預算是史上最高2.9兆多再加上878億的最佳預算那麼總預算是高上加高換句話說如果最佳預算全部追加再排除台電的撥補討論那三減的只有到0.65%形同沒有三 |
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所以在這樣的情況之下我們看到98年度到101年度大概是0.86左右所以在這樣的一個情況之下我們看到所有的預算其他的都是刪除1%以上所以在這一次的預算裡頭回編率有12個機關超過三成更有很多的機關回程率大概八九成 |
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所以我們希望不要弱化立法院的監督而是要真正的以民為本讓社會大眾來說明清楚對不對我們扣除那個最佳增加的部分3.4還有1%也不是說沒有1%謝謝我們現在請徐富奎委員質詢 |
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謝謝主席有請農業部陳部長請農業部的陳部長經濟部何次長還有交通部吳次長經濟部的何次長交通部吳次長交通部的陳部長次長文英浩 |
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部長 次長好我想這一次特別提了這些最佳預算我想我們還是要再次強調這應該是中央跟地方縣市政府合作然後要解決鄉親問題的一個很重要的一個關鍵我想部長贊成這樣的說法嗎 |
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我絕對贊成那所以我在想我們的不分草野應該要共同來支持這樣的一個預算讓我們的政府做好事解決百姓的問題那因為這次我們看一下這個圖片這個保定跟市長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
17225.604 |
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這個不是颱風這是我們東港只要天溫大潮就會出現這樣淹水的狀況所以我想整個治理計畫是非常非常的重要那尤其這次水利署追加了19億的預算農水署也追加了3.7億的預算 |
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17245.983 |
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我一直在強調我也跟院長跟部長都提過了整個治水的部分必須要有規劃要有一個整體的一個計畫的處理那所以我也希望結合經濟部農業部整個從中央到地方從上游中游下游整個做一個治理計畫部長這可以到幾期了我跟 |
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17246.804 |
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17268.45 |
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委員報告一下我們這次農業部追加的10.94億裡面其中有將近8.2億就是在治山防洪的部分那這個部分其實我們一直在做而且現在特別是現在氣候變遷造成的這個土石流大規模崩塌越來越多所以我們急需這樣的一個經費來追加了以後能夠做更多的事情那也請委員支持謝謝 |
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經濟部何次長我們這是縣政府也提出了至少五個抽水站要更新設備設備都太老舊了那個抽水量能不足然後另外還有我特別一直在運會強調的我們的離岸體跟防火體的這個檢驗的檢查的工作要把這個離岸體加長的部分也請經濟部一定要加快辦理這個署長水利署長這邊也要持續啦我們一定要來做啦那另外柏定 |
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我是要提到那個災損的問題因為我也知道你跟院長你們也來看了很多次但是我還是有發現因為這次屏東縣我們受損的金額包含丹納斯728超過了2億5千萬但是我們現在從 |
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17312.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
17328.526 |
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從中央到縣市政府到公所這個通報機制我覺得一直串聯上沒有很落實啦尤其我們多少基層公所他們對於這個品項的部分時間的部分都抓不準啊造成我們農民的這個很大的困擾部長怎麼樣去調整這個東西 |
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17330.447 |
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17356.08 |
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我想我也觀察到因為連續性的颱風裡面在公告的時候這些作物有不同的時間所以在這個申請的時間會有一些比較複雜的樣態所以我也請我們農養署還有相關的同仁去跟公所然後必要的時候是可以延長不要說綁死在法規10天就是10天因為公所也loading也太多了所以我們希望說在這個申請的時間可以做檯面的處理 |
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那另外在相關的那個勘察的時候也可以分批然後盡快的來請款以後我們就可以發救助金部長這個我建議過去我們盤旁邊秘書長當縣長的時候因為我們屏東縣有33個鄉鎮公所我們當時在申報農損的部分我們還把各鄉鎮的農業課的人調到縣政府建構那個SOP大家有一致性的標準部長是不是應該從中央到地方做這樣的一個處理 |
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我們一直在做這樣子就是每一次開災我們都會跟公所做講習跟座談那這個部分後續我們會再來加強把它更明確一點啦尤其很多品項我們覺得這要叫農民用APP他就不好用要邀署長幫他清澈整個人家的中國市都不好用 |
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17405.006 |
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17405.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
謝謝徐維文的資訊 |
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17427.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
17435.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
那麼也包括文貴我們等一下質詢到范雲委員之後我們再休息十分鐘我們下一位請陳立正委員質詢請謝謝主席我們請主記長 沈記長還有外交部跟法務部陳主記長 陳司記長外交部次長外交部部長沒有來嗎部長出國那個法務部部長法務部正部長這明顯 正部長有來嗎 |
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17466.994 |
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我想先請問一個最根本的問題這個636億這個部分當初我們審議是有給地方性補助款沒有問題吧 主席長我們有給地方嘛 對不對總統有沒有明令公佈 |
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17481.726 |
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17496.399 |
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不是在公佈的時候我們就已經刪減了就刪減636公佈的時候我有看到總統令喔他是第25項然後636一般縣市政府一般補助款他明明白白寫這幾個字喔不是那裡面他有寫要我們自行調整刪減636不是 |
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17501.245 |
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17514.205 |
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這個錢是有名的那一條我們是沒有刪的不管你現在把它刪掉了不是把它刪掉你把它挪用了然後這次又就是不給地方政府然後現在又要來就是說又漏票要挾我們就一定要追加了追加這個 |
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17526.732 |
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因為他本身他就規定我要3減2076那2076裡面呢統籌的部分939那我們939能夠按標準時間有限了沒關係因為我們想說好這一次如果我們通過這個636億這個有溝通那這個就是說會不會你們又再一次如果我們沒有通過這個130而已這不是有130而已嗎然後如果我們不通過這130你會不會又把這個錢挪用啊 |
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17543.828 |
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17567.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
如果我們這次不通過一百三十二億你會不會再把我們地方政府要給地方政府的六百三十二億再挪用一次你會不會再進行調整大聲一點我們講現在我就講現在現在六百三十六億如果給你過一百三十二億不給你過你會再挪去用嗎會把六百三十六億再移去給一百三十二億用嗎 |
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17569.548 |
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17579.103 |
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會不會 不會 蛤 不會 肯定不會喔肯定不會喔 那如果之前有我想問法務部啦 還有司法院喔這個如果公務人員沒有依法刑 他審計長有來嗎 |
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17608.22 |
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公務員如果沒有依法行政對不對總統明令公布的法令沒有按照做預算或是在預算過程中沒有按照預算來支給來使用預算的話這樣有違背什麼法令公務人員要依法行政吧如果有涉及到刑事不法當然有告訴高發或者是自首或其他的情形式的話那檢察官當然可以依法來支辦這刑訴數228條就要看有沒有成立 |
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17610.407 |
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17623.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
如果有犯罪嫌疑的話 根據刑事司法那是不是公聯使用這個公帑是不是應該依法使用當然是依法行政嘛那是不是涉及犯罪犯罪個案認定這個我沒辦法幫你講講那個具體的好 謝謝你 來 那個審計長那他這種自己挪用這個預算的這個行為我們到時候你要怎麼審計啊 |
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17631.856 |
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17649.065 |
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我們是監督預算執行對對對他如果他已經這樣執行了到時候你們怎麼來做相關機關都要照預算來執行是沒錯應該照預算但他已經沒有的話你到時候怎麼做因為我們會看情節是怎麼樣的話我們會來處理移送給相關機關嘛比如說檢調單位嘛好那我想請教外交部 |
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這是追加的預算其他可以休息追加的預算裡頭你們增加了你們原來319億經過3減剩305你們又追加20億所以你們超補了7億多做什麼作用這裡頭包括行政院有超補31億然後海委會有超補4億他都跟我們講合理的理由外交部7億多做什麼主要做什麼報告委員在迴邊方面是那個駐外人員的護調 |
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| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
17705.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
比錢不用戶雕嗎那為什麼現在比原來的預算比114年度的預算又多了7億多比你原來變的多7億多新增那部分 今年有通過健保就住外人要付錢多7億多就對了 說這7億多是健保就對了沒關係我可以一個 那是主要項目健保良益嘛 |
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17714.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
然後外管租金也增加那你原來去年在編的時候沒有嗎來 你給我一個完整的說明因為我們時間有限 你給我完整的說明好 謝謝好 謝謝陳立正委員的質詢那麼請吳政次再給陳立正委員事後給他一個補充報告現在羅美玲羅美玲委員不在請范雲委員質詢 請 |
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17739.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
17747.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
謝謝召委 有請教育部正部長跟體育署 正部長請體育署洪志昌副署長 體育署洪副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
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17775.419 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
委員好部長午安關於師大女足案的後續問題兩週前我在教文委員會質詢指出不是只有國科會督導下的師大案教育部體育署補助的運科計畫 |
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17776.641 |
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17791.109 |
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有長期綁定選手受試而且更嚴重的是有大量未成年學生參與計畫那卻疑似沒有知情同意的嚴重違規情形那我上次有講到 |
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17792.41 |
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17817.119 |
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施大安爆發以來運科計畫好像落入了法外之地體育署給我的公文還有對外說因為不是研究不適用人體研究法所以一直都沒有清查處理那次部長應該記得衛福部當場就說涉及到未成年絕對是要適用人體研究法無論是不是有出版那我這邊想讓 |
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17821.539 |
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17846.033 |
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想讓部長看到的是運科計畫不是只有涉及血液樣本有問題因為就在我質詢要求之後上個禮拜8月19號終於看到教育部專案小組說明表示現在正在就運科計畫涉及血液樣本的案件是否符合人體研究法 |
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17846.633 |
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那可是呢教育部要正視這個孕科計畫的問題不是只有涉及血液部長如果只有處理涉及血液這不是大家認知的全面清查我想部長應該同意沒有抽血的案件也可能有違規 |
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17864.076 |
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是的 跟委員報告我確實也跟政署長提所有未成年所有的青少年在運科計畫裡邊都應該要有監護人或者當事人年齡有一些同意 |
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17905.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
謝謝部長 我知道你認同我上次講的我希望他們未來都要全力來改正你說體育署不應該是法外之地下面的計畫就應該要遵循人體研究法我想下一頁讓部長看一下我後來在我質詢之後終於拿到體育署調查的結果請部長看一下 |
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17906.645 |
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17925.493 |
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整個案子有289件裡面只有不到一半的有知情同意不到一半的有知情同意裡面有多少未成年289件裡面超過200件是未成年受冊所以這個有多嚴重 |
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| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
17950.972 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
到現在為止體育署沒有辦法跟我講有多少是強迫未成年學生接受檢測我們體育署署長鎮署長對外說運科補助計畫不能拿去研究發表有研究發表是個別教授不如譬如說個別違規請部長看一下最後一個這不是個別教授研究發表佔了23案8案30幾案不是個案 |
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17953.614 |
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17968.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
所以體育署長對外說是個案這根本就忽略了當時申請的時候他明明就知道申請書都有說要做國際發表更嚴重的是這是我好不容易要來的資料請部長看一下國體大王翔星 |
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17969.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
17994.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
國體大黃啟黃一個是我們運科計畫的管理者就是領導者一個是我們未來的運動部次長我們的運科中心執行長國體大教授他幾個案子七八個案子未成年每個都是未成年每個都沒有知情同意國體大黃啟黃我們未來的準運動部次長他自己就有公開發表所以我不知道體育署為什麼對外講 |
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| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
明明他是運科中心執行長自己都公開發表還說個別違規的教授去公開發表所以呢如果我們未來的體育部的次長等等都有這樣的東西我們如何重建信任所以我請教一步不管未來你下面體育組長是誰 |
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| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
18045.434 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
請監督要有專案小組處理後續的究責歸還有沒有積欠學生的受試費是不是有強迫學生要有外部專家參與另外要成立受試者保護委員會請教育部 運動部 衛福部合作落實未來的查核機制跟審查最重要的是這一批200多案不能因為誰升官了就不處理好不好 部長可以承諾嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
是的 我想我們 未來一定不會再發生 救責補償對外交代 那要有最少三分之一的外部專家參與 可以嗎謝謝部長 謝謝潘委員的質詢我們現在休息十分鐘 因為有大概兩個多小時 |
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| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
謝謝大家 |
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| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
響鐘 |
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| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
18731.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
好 報告委員會我們現在繼續開會請各位維持會場的次序要講話的話請各位到外面去講話好不好讓我們開會喔拜託拜託報告委員會我們繼續開會 |
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18750.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
18770.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
今天在這個房間人太多了所以CO2太高了 大家渾渾沉沉的 希望老家各位幫幫忙我們繼續開會 下一位請林一景 林一景委員不在邱志偉 邱志偉 邱志偉委員不在葉元之委員請質詢 請 |
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18779.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
18780.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
主席好 麻煩請入委會請入委會入委會的邱主委請入委會市委好主委好 想針對那個海基會的預算跟你請教一下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
18820.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
因為現在你們整個陸委會是追加一億六百四七萬八千嘛那其中捐助海基會是九千八百七十五萬一千那海基會他在上一次被刪減的是九千八百九十萬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
18845.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
那等於是之前海基會被刪減的部分你這次全部透過追加把它補回來嗎沒錯啊是的就是差一點點嘛是差一點點是那想問一下海基會的業務因為你們認為說要追加的原因是因為有12項那現在看起來除了第12項辦公廳社這個基本維運是因為可能一個比較緊急的項目之外 |
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| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
18875.015 |
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大部分都是說要恢復嘛都是因為沒有錢所以都停辦了是不是是譬如說舉例來講好了現在緊急服務專案提供24小時服務現在只有12小時我們認為我們國人在兩岸可能都有一些緊急服務要處理所以要恢復24小時是然後我們台商經貿網還有台商的講座因為現在我覺得我們應該及時給台商要恢復是不是要恢復然後要增加辦理陸配關懷活動 |
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| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
18894.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
那現在陸配關懷活動有辦嗎就是因為經費我們本來有計畫是到各縣市去拜訪這些比較弱勢的陸配如果你們關心陸配的話這是一個題外話啦你應該要降低特別是網路上或者是你們民進黨對於陸配的歧視 |
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18895.552 |
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18924.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
之前网路上说什么听到有中国口音啊或者是有什么名字叫铁军啊就说哎呀这好有国安问题他也许也是路配嘛但是就被直接扣这个帽子我觉得你要如果有路配因为开店啊他写简直字啊我们都会我觉得你要去努力的去如果说你的你的目的是要关怀路配其实他们现在在社会上蛮多这种氛围你应该也要去解决这是我们的职责那我们现在想要了解的是实际上 |
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18925.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
18930.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
在112年度跟113年度海基位的預算跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
18931.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
18951.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
被砍之後的預算實際上差不多的喔是大概都是 大概都差不多可是為什麼要追加這九千多萬難道沒有加這九千多萬後續的業務就不能推廣了嗎我們市場 海基會也有對外募款自籌的部分他已經用了用自籌的但是會讓財務越來 處數會越來越大所以我們一方面是兼顧優質的服務品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
18958.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
18981.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
那同時也兼顧他整個財務的健全所以他如果那個動很大未來那個處數所以業務是可以推但是你怕他去借錢造成那個問題是不是造成他的處數越來越大好那接下來喔你剛剛提到說兩岸的經貿論壇都已經停辦要恢復嘛可是實際上我在網路上看你們都一直有在辦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
18983.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
18995.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
跟委員報告是針對台商需求有台商的經貿網那個沒有在update還有沒有沒有我講的是兩岸經貿講座你看一下那個投影片這都有在辦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
18998.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
19017.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
跟委員報告這個部分就是說我們辦的那個廣度密度要更高多辦幾場是不是這個感覺錢都沒有花在刀口上我感覺你們就是先框了一筆預算之後再講說要做什麼後面實際上大家期待海基會應該是服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
19019.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
19032.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
應該是做服務啦可是因為兩岸關係急動啊所以不管是在處理經貿糾紛或者是衛民服務案件或者是處理兩岸文書驗證其實都就降低很多案件數降低很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
19032.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
19050.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
那在按揭書降低很多情況之下海基會還要想要維持跟以前一樣預算甚至更多我覺得大家會有點疑慮啦所以應該是要以提升服務為主啦是是 我們全力以赴而不是說辦活動這有點本末倒置了好 謝謝委員謝謝會議委員的質詢現在會請翁曉琳翁曉琳委員不在請王振旭委員質詢 請 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
19068.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
19070.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
謝謝主席麻煩衛福部邱部長邱部長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
19081.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
19099.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
委員好部長好是感謝你喔是今天你本來這麼辛苦貢獻很多一起為國家奮鬥大家會永遠感念在心我今天有三個問題跟你請教是我先就全部把它說明完畢以後再麻煩部長來做回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
19099.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
19123.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
好的第一件就是有關於調整這個基層信義基層合理門診量的日數來維持健保合理的給付點值第二個部分就是獎勵風災水災的期間有出勤的這個醫護人員給予適當的鼓勵第三個就是公會疫苗上傳的作業我們現在知道說自從蔣總統週休二日還有今年五 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
19124.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
19141.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
5月9號立法院通過紀念日跟節日實施條例以後增加了整個相關的一些立休假日每一年至少讓我們平均的勞工每一個月可以休到10天左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
19142.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
19170.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
大家也知道在台灣看病很方便其實我們的專責醫師在711基層的部分每月看診日數到達25天等於說每一個月平均多出工作日數是比一般的勞工增加了5天以上這個除了醫師以外還包括我們的護理藥師同仁所以具體的希望在政策上根據這一些的改變能夠有效的來做一些相關的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
19171.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
19198.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
第一個就是來完善配套之下調整健保門診合理的日數跟人次因為這個詳細的這個數字大家也都清楚第二個就是不要挪平日來補六日盡量避免平日的門診的衝擊剛有提到嘛這25天其實是很辛苦為了要讓一般的這些病人能夠有機會來看診可是也不要把這個平日跟假日挪為一談 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
19198.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
19221.737 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
另外就是希望能夠編列公務預算來增加這邊造成的這種整體健保的支出那今年的部分希望能夠盡量用外加預算的協助這個就是為什麼今天會在這邊跟你討論這個事情一個很重要的理由這是政策建議上面針對合理門診量的部分請部長來處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
19222.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
19240.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
那第二個部分我們也知道這次風災還有水災期間補償也讓人們沒有關心整天那其實在這次的這個特別統計條例裡面剛好沒有看到衛福部提供預算相關的這些內容這個是有點可惜不過我們也期待補償給你關心讓人們沒有看整天要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
19247.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
19261.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
很多醫護同仁事實上還是在出勤還是在協助整個醫療的作業所以能不能夠予以獎勵如果這個風災相關的疫情惡化以後能不能夠補助健保的點子 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
19262.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
19273.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
那最後有一些優化公會疫苗上傳作業能不能夠透過好的制度好的系統來不要再逐筆的手動處理這幾個事情麻煩部長來幫忙做回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
19274.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
19293.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
好 我非常感謝委員對醫療院所疑似同仁的一個權益的一個照顧那我先做一個報告再請委員指教第一個我想為了應應國定假日的增加所以我們基層醫療這個部分也要應應所以在5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
19293.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
19320.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
今年的5月26號已經喊請調整合理門人量的天數由25天下降到22天那已經提114.6月25號的一個基層總委員商會議討論會議決議是修正通過啦那所以每月看診的人數的日式調整為22日那在第一段的看診人數由30人變成35人這是第一個那駕入開診的這個部分我想那個我們就盡量來爭取經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
19322.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
19347.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
那所有的疫苗的一個呈現我們已經改善很多了譬如說在校園裡面就可以直接來處理那未來會把這樣的一個公會疫苗的上傳做得更精準 更好好 謝謝謝謝我們的資訊下面請徐欣盈 徐欣盈 徐欣文不在沈發慧 沈花蕙 沈花蕙文不在張家俊 張家俊 張家俊文不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
19348.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
19360.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
陳昌明陳昌明陳昌明委員不在吳立華吳立華吳立華委員不在游皓委員游皓委員游皓委員不在林月琴委員請主席麻煩衛福部部長邱部長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
19382.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
19405.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
委員好部長好今天事實上是中央政府總預算的追加預算案的審查八個委員會的聯席詢問相信很多委員都針對很多預算都想問我也是不過只有時間五分鐘所以我想盡快針對我過去提過的一些問題來做質詢希望部長能夠共同來解決這樣子的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
19407.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
19431.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
首先我想部長應該也很清楚同樣是面臨少子化的問題可是偏偏台灣的孩子就是比日韓生得少可是我們5歲以下的死亡率從2020年之後開始往上攀升甚至已經是日韓的兩倍了我想這是讓人遺憾的一個數據所在是前幾天我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
19432.384 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
19458.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
家庭照顾者总会开过还有个案共同召开了一个记者会问的就是恩硕的故事部长你有注意到这个事情吗当然有那部长有注意到这个事情的话我相信卫福部呢在儿少的医疗照护的政策上很努力从110年就开始透过我们的优化儿童医疗照顾计划来挹注经费可是为什么花了10亿元在重症 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
19458.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
19480.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
重男症的醫療網絡建制為什麼救不了恩索甚至我們要問的是那114年到117年衛福部已經編列了優化兒童醫療照護計畫裡邊預計再投入18億的一個在重男症的醫療上所以我想問一下部長說你覺得會發生恩索的這樣的一個死亡事件你覺得問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
19480.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
19503.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
好 謝謝委員我們在優化兒童醫療照護計畫裡面是分了三個層級第一個層級在醫學中心這個部分當然就是把急難症醫療把它做好那當然區域有區域的一個負責任的一個值班的晚上的問題那在社區的話就是要做幼兒專責醫師三個一直下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
19504.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
19526.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我們都知道剛剛您一直很關心兒童死亡率的提高我們一直探討這個原因也一直改善也跟民間團體一直在努力所以我們在健康台灣就是首先要把這個比例下降部長我覺得問題一個主要是我們的骨髓移植病房建立非常的難因為為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
19529.449 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
19553.181 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
因為我問了醫事師跟健保署醫療端都要看就是說他們要如何去建立這個需要符合什麼樣的條件他們回答我說醫法只要有具備特殊病房的一個設施設備的空間的一些要求就可設立可是當然是在審查的時候也要去了解到說營運的規範醫護人員的運用情形但是我比較好奇的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
19553.921 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
19573.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
醫院光是要建置這些特殊病房的設施設備就要花大錢那難怪很多時候醫院他不願意去投入這樣子那難道不能夠去做更好的事情嗎那問題二就是南北的醫療資源分配不均部長看到這個數據你應該可以知道就是今天高雄台南他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
19574.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
19589.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
骨髓移植病床數只有六床或四床在這樣的狀況底下那恩碩剛好就是在南部所以難怪會有發生這樣的事情所以最後我希望能夠政府部門加速提升兒童醫療的照護網絡跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
19591.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
19619.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
轉運的量能而且規劃我們的兒童優先分配的特殊病床的一個機制在還有注意各區的平衡我們也希望部長可以幫幫忙因為這個預算我們也希望你能夠編列在這次的後端真的要以這個為優先最後就是問題三我們的右專的醫師不一定懂兒童篩檢因為這個事實上之前我就質詢過了而且甚至這事實上是一個問題我不知道現在進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
19621.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
19625.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
因為5月19的時候你就說回復演藝那現在進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
19627.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
19628.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
謝謝林委員的質詢下一位請羅廷偉委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
19658.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
19668.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
好 謝謝主席有請主計長 內政部 國防部陳主計長 內政部 留學部長 教育部副部長 教育部政部長 經濟部黃次長交通部 文化部 交通部次長委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
19678.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
19698.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
好 主席長早上我有聽黃國昌委員在問其他的部會部會有回答追加預算是依預算法79條第三款主席長就以第三款來說所辦事業重大事故經費超過法定預算就以這一款來說請你告訴全體國人114年度預算到今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
19699.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
19709.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
今年8月28號指有哪一個部會的預算使用已經超過法定預算或者是重大事故是什麼事請主席講說明不要離題喔 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
19711.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
19737.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
我這裡也要說明一下因為當初被刪減的部分它的一個比率偏高第二個就是說來 主席副編也是今年度最多的刪了以後還是法定預算創新高請繼續但是這個是它刪減的是指定項目譬如說它出國經會它刪減了60%然後有一些相關譬如說媒體宣會它刪減60%那有的是全部都刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
19738.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
19761.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
但我們這一次看到有很多很扯的你還有超補的問題還有所謂的迴編的問題來 我們來看立法院的秘書長針對這一次的追加預算預算中心的報告明明白白寫得很清楚第一 迴編率太高第二 預算法79條第三款的規定部會的重大事故是什麼都沒有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
19762.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
19779.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
你這樣子就要拿出來這個報告不是都寫得很清楚嗎我希望不管是執政黨還有執政黨的委員不要睜眼說瞎話而且主席長我問你你知道追加預算有單位回編一千元你知道嗎你知道是哪個單位嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
19780.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
19798.221 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
回邊一千元有幾個單位是這樣子因為他是出旅費的部分因為旅費被限制旅費回邊一千元因為旅費他被限制沒有這一千他不能出國他是整個是國內旅費的部分他本身整個是一個機關來我想跟全體國人報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
19800.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
19817.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
這個單位就是國家圖書館追加預算1000元它也不是旅費的問題它是辦理古籍文獻典藏維護考編及閱覽服務等所需費用追加1000國家圖書館這樣子有符合預算法第79條嗎2月28日前它有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
19821.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
19849.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
事故所辦理有重大事故而且有所謂的已經超出現在的預算嗎我想這就是多少回編的問題主席長有沒有掌握呢那我也要加問國防部內政部今年六月立法院三讀通過軍人待遇條例自願意加薪三萬一月份三讀的警察人員人事條例提高警銷的所得替代率到八成很多委員都在問到底現在軍人跟警銷的錢有沒有編請問國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
19851.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
19870.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
還有內政部報告 我們並沒有放在114年的追加預算那我們也曾經詢問過行政院那行政院現在的統一對話當然就是以憲法法庭的這個解釋為主那我們會按照憲法法庭還有行政院的指示來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
19871.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
19894.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
所以你們就是還是繼續打算用憲法法庭來卡這件事情那我另外再請問2020年行政院宣布斑斑有冷氣投入300億元要於2022年超前完成當初政府很清楚說電費一定會增加因此承諾由中央補助避免學校家長陷入裝了冷氣卻不能開的一個窘境 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
19895.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
19909.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
政策的配套也是當初這樣子對社會整個承諾我們看到2022年由蔡英文總統所帶領的行政院他們宣布的國家政策2020年由當時蘇貞昌宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
19913.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
19943.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
教育部都明白的指出電費補助這項政策的配套當中的一環教育是憲法保障的權利涉及全國一致性的基本標準因此我認為這是中央統籌才能夠監督整個制度的穩定但是經濟部郭志輝竟然還講說這個電費要由地方政府來出我想這諸多不宜的言論都會造成地方的恐慌我們也再次譴責 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
19943.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
19946.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
請各位保持宿敬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
19970.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
19989.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
好 謝謝主席有請經濟部還有台電台灣電力公司台電今天沒有來我們內部在質詢外部的聲音還是很大主席我們請各位要講話出去外面講話好嗎後面還有幾位都還在講話請各位你們講話我沒辦法開會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
20002.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
20017.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
好 謝謝這個主席這個政威馬上就有效果台灣電網老舊已經是長期存在問題尤其是這個我們的西部海岸線然後遭遇到風災就會停電的情況至今還是沒有辦法獲得這個改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
20018.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
20032.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
我想這個表格大家看一下市場列看一下2023年的消費權就8萬戶的停電2024的康瑞4萬多戶2025丹麗絲已經到了9萬多戶今年的快速的洋流又來到了8千多戶這個是指雲泥縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
20035.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
20053.167 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
指引力線不是全國在這個過程裡面我想這段時間大家一直在強調韌性的電力顯然台灣的電力整個電網達到韌性的指標是十萬八千里所以今天才會有這樣的情況發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
20055.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
20068.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
如果卓院長在8月16號已經正式宣布那啟動全國這個電纜地下化我想我們當然樂觀其成我還希望可以更加快的速度不過在當時當時在2022年的時候台電就已經提出強化電網韌性建設計畫規劃在10年內投入5600多億然後推動渾散電網工程精進強固電網 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
20078.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
20100.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
工程及強化系統防衛的能力等三大主軸三大主軸裡面有沒有包含電纜地下化跟委員報告因為電纜地下化的經費是蠻龐大的有沒有包括這三項有沒有包括10年的電網韌性它最主要是希望把 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
20101.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
20126.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
集中式的電網把它變成是一個分散式的電網不是啊 市長你要回答我有沒有包括電纜 地箱都沒有對不對好 那現在卓院長指示的要來把全台的電纜 地箱的話尤其台17 19等嘛對不對好 那你們規劃的期程所需的經費給院長的報告是多少請簡單說明那跟委員報告那這個卓院長他也請台電時間有限請簡單說明好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
20128.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
20145.382 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
那台電這邊他會兩個月內提出一個評估報告包括那個經費還有騎乘的部分所以這個部分我想就讓台電那邊把整個規劃報告所以你不曉得你不曉得昨天審查特別條例的時候就已經有講大致上是八十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
20145.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
20165.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
八十億是這次的風災的預算但是這次要評估是全國是啦 那八十億用在哪邊八十億最主要是用在這個台十七線十九線還有十一線還有台九線最主要是沿海八十億要負責四條這個省道台十七十九等 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
20167.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
20194.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
夠嗎市長你覺得夠嗎可能不太夠啦可能不太夠是絕對不夠不是不太夠所以你們要預估像卓院長所講的要把這全台的電纜地下化的總體經費是多少都期程應該怎樣去把它精算清楚不是只有兩個月不應該兩個月提出啦可能要更長久的時間但是要快速提出最好是不要超過兩個月我在講的意思你聽懂我的講法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
20196.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
20216.334 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
所以到昨天我在提這個案的時候我就覺得莫名其妙怎麼只有八十億那台電也達富我也韓南富這其一其二怎麼做針對沿海的地區西部的地區山區呢山區今天所有遇到颱風的時候發生的電感折斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
20217.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
20237.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
每一枚要去搶修護墊所有的土石流落實誰處理除了地方政府 除了公務局我們難道期待台電的同仁也去搬石頭才去護墊嗎所以有沒有把山區的這樣的狀況納入到這一次的整體評估裡面 有沒有應該會有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
20240.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
20246.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
這一次的沒有市長你不要回答我們的訪問事情沒有沒有 我要告訴大家評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
20248.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
20274.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
回去之後要趕快納入評估所以你可能不只需要兩個月我希望給你更寬裕的時間但是我當然還是期待不只是台灣的海岸線不只是台灣的沿海不只是台灣的西部連台灣的山區都一併要把所有的電纜加強韌性一切納入評估整體的報告中 可以吧可以好 謝謝好 謝謝劉委員的質詢下一位請陳清輝委員質詢請 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
20283.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
20290.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
謝謝主席我希望請經濟部的代表還有水利署經濟部的何次長水利署謝謝委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
20296.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
20322.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
謝謝這邊首先其實只要高雄只要下大雨像昨天下午傍晚也淹水的非常嚴重然後也到那邊去做一些會刊等等的所以這個問題對高屏的人民非常的重要想請問中央政府自108年起透過專案投入經費辦理包括中央河川高屏溪水系淨流分擔的評估報告這個作業就是為了要提高降雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
20323.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
20342.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
對水稻還有土地的分配還有達成水利工程的最終目的來減輕水災來我們想請教代表跟署長評估報告進行是在水利署可是實施範圍的公告前核定作業在經濟部目前呢這個高頻溪水系淨流分擔評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
20344.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
20367.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
從108年2月到現在已經拖了6年半我們想知道原因到底是什麼因為每遇到水災的次數災情就非常的心痛請問多久內可以完成短期內可以完成什麼進度可以在這邊清楚的跟我們國人尤其是高屏地區來交代跟說明嗎想知道原因還有進度 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
20369.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
20389.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
好 那這個我是不是可以請我們那個水利署這邊來回答署長謝謝委員的一個關心那我們現在事實上整個台灣都在做一些敬禮分擔的評估報告那至於這個評估報告是不是容我們會後馬上給你比較詳細資料因為正在評估中 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
20390.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
20408.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
你至少講一下原因已經六年半還沒有生出來的原因在哪裡一般來講當然很多縣市政府跟我們中央這邊都有針對裡面的內容都還有在檢討中像說我們中央提出來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
20408.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
20434.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
可能縣市政府他可能認為哪一個部分還要再檢討所以導致可能沒辦法提出來但是我們事實上在很多的系統化治理裡面有一些工程我們會先做因為淨流分擔的報告是所有的工程做完以後如果還是不足夠才會去推淨流分擔的一個報告所以這個報告是一個因應氣候變遷的補充的報告的部分而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
20434.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
20454.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
所以你的意思是前面不斷的來來回回也不是我特別跟委員報告就是說我們事實上為了因應氣候變遷的狀況已經有在審查那這個報告經往通的說明已經剛剛審查過了方向過了但是將來西部會來具以實施那進度呢進度我們盡量來趕大概多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
20461.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
20466.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
因為這個他還要提到經濟部來做一些審議那原則上我們會盡快來推 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
20468.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
20492.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
好 你可以講出一年兩年不會講不出來一年內是不是從我們今年內把它完成今年內 好另外就請教署長因為本週你有看到甲仙區所有的里長來到立法院陳情反映關於甲仙區因為被越獄引水影響到地方的發展還有水土保持等等的所以我們也要在這邊請署長告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
20493.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
20516.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
會念在甲仙區對維持高雄供水穩定的特殊性跟貢獻性確定可以支持高雄市政府朝維持原本優先分配甲仙區1500萬水源保護回饋費的這個方向如果有金額上的不足水利組這邊也會承諾會支應自身的財源來補足是嗎 請你給我一個結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
20517.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
20532.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
好 非常謝謝委員我想這個是我們的推動共識從107年水利署核定的方向就是這樣子所以原則上我們會考慮到甲鮮的特殊性我們會全力來達成 以上說明好 謝謝主席 謝謝好 謝謝陳清威委員的質詢下一位請王宏威委員王宏威 王宏威委員不在下一位請林楚瑩委員質詢 請 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
20555.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
20562.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
謝謝主席主席辛苦了各部會首長辛苦了有請外交部外交部的吳次長吳政次對委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
20577.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
20598.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
好 次長本席身為這個國防外交的委員那麼我知道您從歐洲回來有關於這個歐洲國家對於台灣的重視在您擔任駐法代表的時候就持續到我們看到的這一次的奧運其實我們不只是奧運被世界看到當時在法國 巴黎我們也有一個文化奧運 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
20599.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
20628.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
那麼本席是非常支持這樣的一個做法因為這個是讓台灣的軟實力被看見那麼把台灣被凸顯出來我們也知道接下來在捷克在歐洲還有歐洲的文化台灣文化年這些活動的舉辦真的不可能又要馬而好又要馬而不吃草所以本席在這裡也要特別的是給予鼓勵跟支持因為我們知道接下來立法院也將有代表團會跟著部長一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
20629.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
20657.809 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
來看台灣的文物在歐洲展示的部分那麼在這個部分只要是能夠對於台灣給予支持讓台灣被看到本席都願意來給予預算上面的扶持所以這是我們現在在這裡討論追加預算不過我們來看下一張本席雖然身為執政黨的委員我還是要點出來就是隨著國際情勢的變化我們知道尤其是現在全球都面臨的是物價上漲的壓力也不是只有台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
20658.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
20686.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
那麼以114年度也就是2025年的預算來講外交部是原并編列了302億但是在經過了12億的刪除之後法定預算來到了290億其實很多的國際宣傳國際合作以及國際救難等過去我們強調的Taiwan Can Help這些錢都被刪了那麼本席也認為他應該要加回來不過我還是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
20687.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
20711.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
外交部有必要解釋的是被刪了8億多但是現在提的追加預算卻來到21億比原併的就是等於刪的還要多那麼我認為這個時候我要提供你時間好好的來解釋一下這樣的狀況是為了什麼到底錢用在什麼地方還是說真的有什麼不足的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
20713.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
20731.337 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
好 謝謝委員很快以去年在巴黎奧運為例用了我們多國際宣傳費我們看到台灣在巴黎奧運的時候得到很多的關注一般而言我們外交部預算在2008年的時候曾經佔我們政府總預算的1.8%到去年291的時候已經一路降到只剩下0.98%所以外交部的預算確實是一直在遞減 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
20742.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
20745.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
要做 我們知道我們的國際環境是比較辛苦的所以事實上是需要更多的立法院的支持現在我們多邊出來的我們不是就說我們回邊跟多邊的其實有很大一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
20756.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
20778.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
是我們駐外人員的戶調也就是我們大使出去然後換國家這些都需要經費的那這個都被曾經被刪過所以我們把它回編回來那新編的例如說是我們的健保我們的健保就是我們駐外人員他們在外面他們在外面也有也有就是說有那個保費那健保 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
20779.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
20809.273 |
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事實上需要政府的支持因為外交人員很辛苦所以這屬於對於我們外交人員的支持這一部分還有我們的租金就是外管的租金其實因為通貨膨脹這不是去年可以預測到的那它造成我們現在外交部很大的負擔所以要維持我們外管的一個正常運作我們需要加編的這樣的一個項目所以這大概是主要是比較是這一類的來請大院來支持我們外交部 |
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好 那麼從部長 次長所說的這個部分我們就了解到說其實這都跟駐外的實際運營的工作是有關的是的好 尤其是剛剛你特別提到的有關於健保費這個部分因為因應這個市縣的結果現在健保是不能停的 |
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那麼所以說等於這些外管的同仁他們的健保費這些都要補齊那麼如果是這樣的話我希望透過你的說明等一下再做具體討論的時候能夠幫外交部多補留一些第一線外交官支持的費用 |
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20870.4 |
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非常謝謝委員謝謝好 謝謝林楚瑩委員的質詢感謝那麼報告委員會今天登記公開發言的委員軍已經巡打完畢我們現在休息20分鐘我們要改開機密會議機密會議的地點改在群宣樓801就在樓下那機密會議只有外交跟國防所以其他委員會 |
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20900.068 |
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其他各部會可以在原地休息還有主機長要到主機長要到等一下801 20分鐘以後我們要在那邊清場地20分鐘以後我們機密會議我們就不對外開放了媒體不開放但是其他的部會首長請留在原地休息你們休息我們處理完了再回來馬上要處理預算了馬上要處理預算好不好好 我們現在休息20分鐘 |
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好 這個向委員會報告請各位尊重開會好不好在裡面不要講話 拜託拜託 |
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23716.257 |
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23719.559 |
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我們現在因為秘密會議已經開完了我們就回過來我們把所有提案大概有100案子左右我們現在正式宣讀大概宣讀時間要40分鐘要40分鐘所以各位如果40分鐘宣讀宣讀以後我們就主案來處理先跟各位報告然後跟各位報告後續的 |
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23765.692 |
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今天晚上8點鐘由韓院長主持的朝野黨團協商我會到 那麼委員也歡迎你到有提案的委員都歡迎你到好不好所以大概是這個樣子所以現在3點我們就好不好就是到4點鐘好不好就是唸然後加休息到4點鐘回來開始處理這樣請會長會長安靜啦 才聽得到他們唸什麼那各位可以看一下提案囉好 謝謝 |
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宣讀114年度中央政府總預算追加預算案有關預算目的內容請委員自行參閱第一款總統府主管3324萬6千元第一項總統府1583萬1千元第二項國家安全會議811億萬元第三項國史館533萬8千元第四項國史館台灣文獻館396萬7千元第二款行政院主管45億 |
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23832.242 |
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七千三百九十六萬三千元第一項行政院九千六百零八萬九千元第二項主計總署一百九十四萬兩千元第三項人事行政總署四千一百二十八萬兩千元第四項公務人力發展學院八百五十一萬八千元第五項國立故宮博物院一億八千一百八十五萬三千元第六項國家發展委員會九十三萬六千元第七項檔案管理局一千三百二十六萬一千元第八項原住民組委員會二十四億七千五百三十七萬兩千元 |
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23833.789 |
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23855.415 |
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第九項原住民族文化發展中心521萬元第十項客家委員會及所屬2734萬2千元第十一項中央選舉委員會及所屬15億5082萬4千元第十二項核能安全委員會及所屬100萬8千元第十三項公民交易委員會99萬2千元第十四項國家通訊傳播委員會4290萬4千元第十五項大陸委員會110647萬8千元 |
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23859.216 |
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23873.793 |
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第十六項國家運輸安全調查委員會207萬8千元第十七項不當黨產處理委員會456萬2千元第十八項公共工程委員會1331萬2千元第三款立法院主管兩千八百二十二萬 |
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23875.818 |
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23892.077 |
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兩千元第一項立法院兩千八百二十二萬兩千元第四款司法院主管四千九百八十四萬七千元第一項司法院七百八十五萬一千元第二項最高法院十九萬一千元第三項最高行政法院十三萬四千元第四項台北高等法院 |
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23892.657 |
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23913.868 |
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台北高等行政法院19萬7千元第五項 台中高等行政法院19萬3千元第六項 高雄高等行政法院28萬4千元第七項 懲戒法院15萬4千元第八項 法官學院71萬3千元第九項 智慧財產及商業法院10萬1千元第十項 台灣高等法院215萬元 |
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23915.769 |
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23943.242 |
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第11項 台灣高等法院台中分院103萬3千元第12項 台灣高等法院台南分院78萬6千元第13項 台灣高等法院高雄分院109萬8千元第14項 台灣高等法院花蓮分院116萬1千元第15項 台灣台北地方法院229萬元第16項 台灣士林地方法院126萬4千元第17項 台灣新北地方法院256萬7千元 |
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23945.023 |
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23968.801 |
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第18項 台灣桃園地方法院287萬3千元第19項 台灣新竹地方法院109萬8千元第20項 台灣苗栗地方法院93萬1千元第21項 台灣台中地方法院270萬5千元第22項 台灣南投地方法院87萬1千元第23項 台灣中化地方法院291萬3千元第24項 台灣雲林地方法院90萬6千元第25項 台灣嘉義地方法院 |
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23969.321 |
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23986.773 |
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一百二十八萬八千元第二十六項台灣台南地方法院二百五十萬七千元第二十七項台灣橋頭地方法院一百二十萬三千元第二十八項台灣高雄地方法院二百零八萬元第二十九項台灣屏東地方法院一百八十萬五千元第三十項台灣台東地方法院六百三萬七千元 |
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23987.213 |
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24016.572 |
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第三十一項 台灣花蓮地方法院六十六萬五千元第三十二項 台灣宜蘭地方法院七十四萬五千元第三十三項 台灣基隆地方法院三百一十六萬八千元第三十四項 台灣澎湖地方法院二十四萬七千元第三十五項 台灣高雄少年及家事法院四十九萬兩千元第三十六項 福建高等法院金門分院二十三萬兩千元第三十七項 福建金門地方法院二十一萬一千元第三十八項 福建連江地方法院十萬三千元 |
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24031.518 |
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第五款考試院主管352萬元第四項公務員保障及培訓委員會352萬元第六款監察院主管8629萬6千元第一項監察院7762萬6千元第二項審計部750萬7千元第三項審計部台北市審計處20萬4千元第四項審計部新北市審計處24萬5千元第五項審計部桃園市審計處 |
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24042.165 |
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十三萬兩千元第六項審計部台中市審計處十六萬一千元第七項審計部台南市審計處二十一萬七千元第八項審計部高雄市審計處二十萬四千元 |
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24054.676 |
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24083.855 |
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第七款 內政部主管 二十八億八千一百四十三萬七千元第一項 內政部 八億三千六百一十三萬三千元第二項 國土管理署級 所屬七億五千五百三十七萬三千元第三項 警政署級 所屬七億一千零六十二萬六千元第四項 中央警察大學 兩千四百零五萬五千元第五項 消防署級 所屬一億六千三百一十七萬三千元第六項 國家公園署級 所屬一億九千六百六十四萬八千元第七項 移民署級 所屬九千三百五十四萬八千元 |
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第八項 建築研究所 一千七百二十二萬兩千元第九項 空中勤務總隊 八千四百六十五萬九千元第八款 外交部主管 二十一億一千萬八千元第一項 外交部 二十一億零八二八萬九千元第二項 領事事務局 七十四萬七千元第三項 外交及國際事務學院 九十七萬 |
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24106.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
24108.508 |
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第9款國防部主管第1項國防部所屬第10款財政部主管第1項財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
24127.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
24131.419 |
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負稅143萬1千元第四項 台北國稅局362萬6千元第五項 高雄國稅局283萬2千元第六項 北區國稅局所屬539萬6千元第七項 中區國稅局所屬450萬9千元 |
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24143.422 |
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24159.538 |
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第八項 南區國稅局 即所屬四百零七萬一千元第九項 公務署 即所屬一千零八十六萬四千元第十項 國有財產署 即所屬三百八十八萬元第十一項 財政諮詢中心 五百二九萬八千元第十一款 教育部主管 五千一百一十七萬九千 |
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24161.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
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第一項教育部2106萬6千元第二項國民級學情教育署1585萬6千元第三項體育署799萬3千元第四項青年發展署477萬元第五項國家圖書館10萬元第六項國立公共資訊圖書館10萬5千元第七項 |
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24179.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
24202.498 |
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國立教育廣播電台193,000元第八項國家教育研究院109萬6千元第十二款法務部主管4601萬1千元第一項法務部128萬9千元第二項司法官學院188,000元第三項法醫研究所356,000元第四項廉政署103萬4千元第五項矯正署及所屬372萬3千元第六項行政執行署 |
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24203.058 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
24228.585 |
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即所屬161萬6千元第七項最高檢查數60萬1千元第八項台灣高等檢查數116萬4千元第九項台灣高等檢查數台中檢查分數15萬3千元第十項台灣高等檢查數台南檢查分數14萬8千元第十一項台灣高等檢查數高雄檢查分數21萬4千元第十二項台灣高等檢查數花蓮檢查分數14萬8千元第十三項台灣高等檢查數智慧財產檢查分數2萬3千元 |
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24231.792 |
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第十四項 臺灣台北地方檢查署237萬9千元第十五項 臺灣士林地方檢查署88萬6千元第十六項 臺灣新北地方檢查署113萬3千元第十七項 臺灣桃園地方檢查署170萬8千元第十八項 臺灣新竹地方檢查署84萬9千元第十九項 臺灣苗栗地方檢查署51萬元第20項 臺灣台中地方檢查署 |
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24257.848 |
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一百三十萬七千元第二十一項台灣南投地方檢查署四十八萬四千元第二十二項台灣彰化地方檢查署七十二萬八千元第二十三項台灣雲林地方檢查署四十萬七千元第二十四項台灣嘉義地方檢查署六十四萬八千元第二十五項台灣台南地方檢查署一百二十五萬五千元第二十六項台灣橋頭地方檢查署 |
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24280.586 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
24308.574 |
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七十四萬九千元第二十七項台灣高雄地方檢查署九十九萬五千元第二十八項台灣屏東地方檢查署七十萬四千元第二十九項台灣台東地方檢查署二十九萬第三十項台灣花蓮地方檢查署三十一萬八千元第三十一項台灣宜蘭地方檢查署四十一萬一千元第三十二項台灣基隆地方檢查署三十八萬五千元第三十三項台灣澎湖地方檢查署二十二萬五千元第三十四項福建高等檢查金門 |
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24309.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
24317.275 |
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高等檢查署金門檢查分數126,000元第35項福建金門地方檢查署132,000元第36項福建連江地方檢查署103,000元第37項調查局862,200元第13款經濟部主管31億8178,000元第1項經濟部1億6245,900元第2項產業發展署6億7472,900元第3項國際貿易所261萬4千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
24340.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
24356.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
第四項標準檢驗局及所屬三千六百五十七萬一千元第五項智慧財產局五十二萬九千元第六項水利署及所屬十九億八千零五十四萬一千元第七項商業發展署一億零四百一十六萬八千元第八項中小及新創企業署八十二萬四千元第九項 |
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24358.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
24386.158 |
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產業園區管理局及所屬146萬5千元第十項地質調查及礦業管理中心1196萬3千元第十一項能源署3231萬5千元第十四款交通部主管2258萬4千元第一項交通部88萬9千元第二項民用航空局8萬元第三項中央氣場署54萬5千元第四項觀光署及所屬293萬2千元第五項運輸研究所53萬3千元第六項公務局及所 |
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24386.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
24407.907 |
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所屬一二六九萬九千元第七項鐵道局所屬一百四十九萬四千元第八項行港局三百四十一萬兩千元第十五款勞動部主管六千八百九十四萬八千元第一項勞動部二三一四萬兩千元第二項勞工保險局九十七萬兩千元第三項勞動力發展署及所屬 |
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24408.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
24411.951 |
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1624萬元第四項職業安全衛生署28042000元第五項勞動基金運用局61000元第六項勞動職業安全衛生研究所491000元 |
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第十六款 農業部主管 十億九千四百三十萬六千元第一項 農業部 九千六百一十萬七千元第二項 林業局自然保育署及所屬 一億兩千四百六十萬元第三項 農業發展及水土保持署及所屬 三億七千八百二十八萬四千元第四項 農業試驗所及所屬 一千八百二十八萬三千元 |
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第五項靈異試驗所1028萬1000元第六項水產試驗所940萬4000元第七項蓄產試驗所及所屬463萬5000元第八項獸醫研究所723萬3000元第九項農業藥物試驗所2046萬3000元第十項生物多樣性研究所247萬9000元第十一項茶集飲料作業改良廠59萬 |
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三千元第十二項總苗改良繁殖場三百四十六萬七千元第十三項桃園區農業改良場三百三十萬兩千元第十四項苗栗區農業改良場二百二十八萬八千元第十五項台中區農業改良場五百七十三萬六千元第十六項台南區農業改良場四百六十六萬五千元 |
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第十七項 高雄區農業改良廠 二百五十萬兩千元第十八項 花蓮區農業改良廠 二百二十二萬一千元第十九項 台東區農業改良廠 一百零七萬一千元第二十項 漁業暑期所屬 二六四九萬九千元第二十一項 動植物防疫檢疫暑期所屬 四五五三萬三千元第二十二項 |
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農業金融局三十六案兩千元第二十三項農糧儲集所所二六四七萬七千元第二十四項農田水利所二億九四八一萬元第二十五項農業科技園區管理中心三百零一萬一千元第十七款衛生福利部主管四億一五九五五萬 |
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24541.492 |
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五千元第一項衛生福利部一億六零四五萬五千元第二項疾病管制署一億五億零五萬四千元第三項食品藥物管理署六九六萬一千元第四項招商健健康保險署一億三二萬六千元第五項國民健康署七七二四萬七千元第六項社會及家庭署二零五萬 |
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24542.934 |
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24554.744 |
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第7項國家中醫藥研究所685萬8千元第18款環境部主管1億6419萬3千元第1項環境部3890萬8千元第2項氣候變遷署1437萬2千元第3項資源循環署3585萬3千元第4項化學物質管理署5064萬4千元第5項環境管理署815萬5千元 |
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24578.025 |
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第六項國家環境研究院1626萬1千元第十九項文化部主管2億8085萬8千元第一項文化部1億9821萬9千元第二項文化資產局1253萬9千元第三項影視 |
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第三項影視及流行音樂產業局772萬2千元第四項國立傳統藝術中心1441萬4千元第五項國立台灣美術館及所屬1086萬8千元第六項國立台灣工藝研究發展中心 |
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937萬3千元第7項國立台灣博物館510萬9千元第8項國立台灣史前文化博物館517萬元第9項國家人權博物館667萬8千元第10項國立台灣歷史博物館476萬3千元第11項國立台灣文學館600萬3千元第20款 |
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數位發展部主管 12億7673萬元第一項 數位發展部 6億7055萬8千元第二項 資通安全署 52萬8千元第三項 數位產業署 6億0564萬4千元第二十一款 僑務委員會主管 37萬5千元第一項 僑務委員會 37萬5千元第二十二款 國家科學及技術委員會 |
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24645.883 |
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24663.284 |
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主管47467000元第一項國家科學及技術委員會481000元第二項新竹科學園區管理局1143000元第三項中部科學園區管理局871000元第四項南部科學園區管理局44972000元第二三款金融監督管理委員會主管517000元 |
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24665.7 |
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第一項金融監督管理委員會六十八萬兩千元第二項銀行局五十六萬五千元第三項證券期貨局一百六十二萬一千元第四項保險局二十六萬五千元第五項檢查局一百八七萬四千元第二四款海洋委員會主管十五億零二百八十六萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
24684.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
24699.555 |
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第一項海洋委員會三千一百二十七萬八千元第二項海巡署及所屬十四億一千零七十一萬八千元第三項海洋保育署四千六百零一萬一千元第四項國家海洋研究院一千四百八十五萬三千元第二十五款國軍退出一關密輔導委員會主管 |
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24700.055 |
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24721.094 |
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三千九百七十四萬九千元第一項國軍退出一關兵輔導委員會三千九百七十四萬九千元第二十六款直轄市及縣市政府六百三十六億零五百五十四萬七千元第一項直轄市及縣市一般性補助款六百三十六億零五百五十四萬七千元以上請參閱預算書第五十六至二百二十四頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
24723.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
24746.594 |
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現在宣讀114年度中央政府最佳預算案的預算提案一114年度中央政府總預算媒體政策及業務宣導費簡列該項預算4億2906萬6千元提案委員王洪維等人第二案114年度最佳預算案刪減媒體政策及業務宣導費4億2906萬6千元提案委員賴世寶等人 |
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24775.109 |
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第三案 總統府主管追加預算案總額三千三百二十四萬六千元預算全數刪除 天安委員翁曉琳等人第四案 總統府追加預算案國務支出向下三減一般行政五百萬元 天安委員 烏拉斯堡委員等人第五案 總統府追加預算案於第五幕新聞發布向下一百四十八萬六千元減列 |
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24792.752 |
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148萬6千元提案委員劉許廷等人第六案國家安全會議追加預算案國務支出向下三檢諮詢研究業務100萬元提案委員賴世寶委員等人第七案行政院主管編列45億71396萬3千元刪除22億0570萬9千元提案委員翁曉琳等人 |
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24801.38 |
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24813.114 |
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第八案 行政院追加預算案第一目 一般行政向下基本行政工作維持預算 檢列192萬1千元委員劉許廷等人提案第九案 行政編列追加預算案 行政支出向下施政及法治業務 |
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三減五百萬元提案委員賴世寶等人第十案行政院追加預算案第四目聯合服務業務向下經費預算減列三千六百五十二萬六千元提案委員劉許廷等人第十一案行政院追加預算案第九目新聞傳播業務向下預算減列七百七十三萬七千元為劉許廷等人提案第十九案建請行政院對於詐欺犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
24870.498 |
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詐欺犯罪危害防治條例修法進度會同相關單位全面盤點本條例中是否有相關條文上代經濟會總後提出書面報告委員張宏祿等人提案第十三案請主計總署會同教育部全序部三個月內針對退伏基金撥補情況提出報告並於編列一百一十六年預算時審慎評估十年之撥補方案之可行性委員吳麗華等人提案 |
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114案 建請國立故宮博物院依補充庫房典藏罪人力書面報告所提多元方案因應提出具體規劃委員張雅玲等人提案第15案 區域排水多氧量附屬於道路自排水系統請國家發展委員會會同相關部會全面盤點上述區域明確劃分中央行政機關責任歸屬擬具精進排水措施與防災計畫提出書面報告委員鍾嘉斌等人提案 |
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24901.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
24918.377 |
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16案 原住民族追加預算案第一幕一般行政向下預算檢列508萬2000元委員牛許廷等人提案17案 原住民族委員會追加預算案第二幕綜合規劃發展向下預算檢列1030萬2000元委員牛許廷等人提案18案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
24927.401 |
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中央選舉委員會及所屬第二幕選舉業務簡列15億4324萬2千元委員王宏威等人提案19案中央選舉委員會及所屬就家預算案向下選舉業務3-410281萬5千元委員賴世寶等人提案20案 |
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24967.895 |
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双方选举委员会所属选举业务编列15亿4712万8千元冻结该项预算1%提案委员苏巧慧等人21案道路委员会编列最佳预算行政支出向下法政业务3减8千万元提案委员赖世保等人第22案道路委员会最佳预算案第4幕法政业务向下预算减列5880万1千元提案委员牛许婷等人 |
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24968.935 |
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24990.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
第二十三案 追加預算案 立法院主管 凍結該項預算二十萬元 提出書面報告後 使得動之委員黃珊珊等人提案二十四案 司法院主管 追加預算案 四千九百八十四萬七千元 全數刪除 提案委員翁曉琳等人第二十五案 追加預算案 司法院主管 凍結該項預算二十萬元 提出書面報告後 使得動之提案委員黃珊珊等人 |
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24992.698 |
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25021.678 |
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26案考試院主管追加預算案352萬元全數刪除提案委員溫曉琳等人27案追加預算案考試院主管凍結該項預算5萬元提出書面報告後使得動之提案委員黃珊珊等人28案內政部主管追加預算案28億8143萬7千元全數刪除提案委員翁曉琳等人29案追加預算案內政部主管凍結該項預算20萬元提出書面報告後使得動之提案委員黃珊珊等人提案30案內政部追加預算案民政支出 |
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25023.219 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
25042.856 |
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三減六億元提案委員文賴世保委員等人第三十一案內政部追加預算第二幕民政及宗教理智業務向下預算減列一億元提案委員牛許廷等人三十二案內政部追加預算第三幕戶政業務向下預算減列一千四百零八萬七千元委員牛許廷等人提案 |
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三十三案內部最佳預算案與第七目義政業務向下預算簡列一千零七十一萬三千元委員劉許廷等人提案三十四案國土管理署最佳預算案三減工業支出及交通支出一億元提案委員賴世寶等人三十五案國土管理署及所屬應將育有未成年身心障礙家屬之家庭納入經濟或社會弱勢身份別身份別之一以獲得居住協助提案委員黃潔等人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
25093.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
三十六案 國土署應研擬設宅需求登記平台之可行性開放所有符合資格之重註冊並詳細填具需求提案委員王潔等人三七 國土管理署及所屬社會住宅成都者應以加護實際的所得與財產狀況作為計劃計算基準 |
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25097.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
25120.258 |
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定定明確的分級收費規範並要求地方政府一體適用提案委員黃婕等人38案國土基金會同社會福利目的事業主管機關衛生福利部教育部勞動部等部會建立包租社宅成租者之社會福利社會服務機制提高弱勢族群之成租成功率 |
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25121.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
25126.419 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
委員黃婕等人提案三九案國度署應積極管控相關工程之執行狀況 |
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25155.901 |
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會同相關單位進行追蹤提出書面報告作為道路安全改善之重要參照委員張宏武等人提案40案警政署及所屬居家預算第6目刑事警察業務向下預算減列4,025萬5千元提案委員牛許廷等人41案內政部警政署於一個月內就基隆車站長期駐點警力配置可行性提出書面報告委員黃珊珊等人42案 |
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請消防署要求各縣市政府並共同合作因依災害防救法 消防法等相關規定讓協助救難的在地人不再被排除在外委員伍麗華等人提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
25200.333 |
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四十三案 請內政部國家公務員署於三個月內提出書面報告針對禁止餵食動物及遊蕩犬貓一致計畫提出具體可行之執行方案委員長張雅玲等人提案四十四案 移民署追加預算案三檢入出國及移民署管理業務一千萬元提案委員賴世寶等人四十五案 外交部主管追加預算案二十一億一千萬八千元 |
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25204.823 |
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全數刪除天安委翁小林等人 |
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25235.325 |
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46案 外交部追加預算案三檢外交部支出9億元提案委員賴世寶等人47案 國防部追加預算案三檢國防政策規劃與督導327萬5千元提案委員馬文君等人48案 國防部追加預算案三檢國家軍事博物館設備採購所需經費3千萬元提案委員馬文君等人49案 國防部追加預算案三檢軍事行政預算 |
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五百八十一萬元提案委員毛文君等人五十案國防部追加預算案三檢軍事行政一千九百五十七萬七千元委員毛文君等人提案五十一案國防部追加預算案三檢教育訓練業務 |
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25255.547 |
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25279.445 |
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五百零四萬兩千元委員馬文君等人提案五十二案國防部追加預算案三檢教育訓練業務九千零六十三萬五千元提案委員馬文君等人五十三案國防部追加預算案三檢後勤及諮通1398萬7千元委員馬文君等人提案五十四案國防部追加預算案三檢 |
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25280.666 |
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25308.887 |
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一般裝備706萬8千元 提案委員馬文金等人55案 國防部追加預算案 刪減一般裝備193萬1千元 提案委員馬文金等人56案 教育部主管追加預算5117萬9千元 全數刪除 提案委員翁曉琳等人57案 法務部主管追加預算案 4601萬1千元 全數刪除 提案委員翁曉琳等人58案 經濟部追加預算案 一般行政 |
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25310.468 |
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25325.858 |
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簡列1500萬元委員陳昌明等人提案59案 產業發展署追加預算案科學支出向下簡列工業技術升級輔導2億元提案委員賴世寶等人60案 經濟部追加預算案工業技術升級輔導預算6億4819萬元 |
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25332.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
25352.972 |
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凍結30%提出專案報告經同意後 使得凍資委員陳超明等人提案61案經濟部標準檢驗局及所屬應加速辦理電度表之檢定避免檢定能量不足情形一再發生委員陳超明等人提案62案凍結水利署及所屬一般行政預算10萬元 |
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25354.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
25371.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
提出專案報告經同意後始而動之委員陳金輝等人提案63案經濟部追加預算案水利建設及保育管理預算19億8千零11萬6千元凍結40%提出專案報告經同意後始而動之委員陳超明等人提案 |
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25372.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
25387.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
六十四案經濟部追加預算案促進商業科技發展預算一億零一百六十三萬元凍結該項預算百分之十提出專案報告經同意後使得動之委員陳昌明等人提案六十五案經濟部追加預算案能源科技計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
25389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
25414.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
預算三千一百八十一萬兩千元凍結該預算百分之五提出專案報告經同意後始的動資委員陳超明等人提案六十六案交通部主管催加預算案總額兩千兩百五十八萬四千元全數刪除提案委員翁曉琳等人六十七案交通請交通部一個月內檢討台鐵車站保全人力配置改善計劃提出書面報告委員黃珊珊等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
25415.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
25429.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
六八案 勞動部主管 催加預算案 六八九四萬八千元全數三足 提案委員翁曉琳等人六九案 建請勞動部應針對原有假日優於我國法令規定之事業單位及產業加強宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
25431.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
25444.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
已立事業單位法尊提案委員王振旭等人70案農業部主管追加預算案總額10億9430萬6千元全數刪除提案委員翁曉琳等人70案農業部追加預算案林業發展預算1億2433萬5千元凍結該預算10%提出專案報告經同意後使得動作委員陳超明等人提案72案請農業部全面盤點趙琳 |
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25458.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
25471.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
地狀況研議針對平地造林不具木材生產生物棲地及景觀價值之區域做有效利用方案提出書面報告委員 宗嘉斌等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
25473.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
25495.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
七十三案 凍結農村發展及水土保持署及所屬一般行政預算五萬元提出專案報告經同意 使得動之委員陳金輝等人提案七十四案 農業部追加預算案 水土保持發展預算三億七千七百八十二萬元凍結該項預算百分之三十提出專案報告經同意後 使得動之委員陳超明等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
25496.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
25509.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
75案 農業部追加預算農糧管理預算26366000元凍結該項預算500萬元提出專案報告經同意後死的凍之委員陳超明等人提案76案 農業部追加預算農田水利事業作業基金預算240828000元凍結該項預算20%提出專案報告經同意後死的凍之委員陳超明等人提案77案 請農業部全面盤點位座 |
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25523.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
25540.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
農田灌溉溝渠針對其女巨房災及清淤計畫提出素面報告委員鍾嘉斌等人提案七八案建井衛福部和健保署研議針對今年下半年新增日假日避免以挪動平日週間之給付預算或點數補假日 |
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25544.045 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
25563.355 |
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二是以最佳預算或動資調節非預期風險及其他預期政策所需經費項目新增或外交預算予以協助延長合理門診量之日數與人次數調整儘量避免造成門診及診所之衝擊影響提案委員王振旭等人 |
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25564.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
25581.559 |
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79案 衛生福利部數位資訊醫療制推動預算1760萬4千元凍結10%提出專報同意後 使得動之委員林秀 李燕秀等人提案82案 警衛福部機關屬於3個月內提出監測概況與預防機制報告 |
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25583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
25599.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
具體說明追加預算使用規劃及成效指標委員張雅玲等人提案八十一案請衛生福利部疾病管制署引以調升兒童常規疫苗接種處置費應建制疫苗冷鏈冷運配送至院所之機制 |
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25602.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
25621.252 |
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備維護良好疫苗品質委員李燕秀等人提案八十二案請衛生福利部及管署籌編預算研議逐步對經濟弱勢慢性病具慢性病史或特定年齡層族群提供公費帶狀炮診疫苗接種委員李燕秀等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
25623.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
25648.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
83 為確保穩定藥品供應解決要缺藥問題請衛生福利部提出改善作為之書面報告提案委員李燕秀等人84 衛生福利部衛生福利部中央健保署健保政策規劃與推展預算數340萬8千元凍結10%提出專報經同意後使得動之委員李燕秀等人提案85 衛生福利部建請 |
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25650.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
25669.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
建保署會同疾管署研議建置全國性疫苗接種公版系統研議全國性疫苗接種公版系統建置之需求與具體時程規劃文王證據等人提案86案溝通及資訊署據之評估是否屬語言治療施法所稱溝通障礙 |
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25670.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
25687.465 |
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具輔助系統使用之評估之疑議請衛生福利部提出改善作文之書面報告委員李燕秀等人提案八七案文化部主管追加預算案兩億八千零八十五萬八千元全數三十五委員翁曉琳等人提案八十八案文化部 |
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25688.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
25712.043 |
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追加預算案1億9,821萬9千元凍結25%提出專案報告與改進執行內容預期成效經同意後使得動之委員林倩琦等人提案八九案文化部影視及流行音樂發展業務預算數1088萬凍結本預算10%提出改善報告經同意後使得動之委員郭玉琴等人提案 |
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25712.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
25739.39 |
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90案文化部向下人文文学及出版业务推展与辅导预算数3880万8千元冻结本笔预算10%提出具体改变报告经同意后使得动之委员归行等人提案91案文化部再加预算国家漫画博物馆筹备业务向下编列279万3千元冻结本笔预算10%提出具体报告经同意后使得动之委员归行等人提案 |
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25741.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
25754.618 |
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92案请文化部针对转型相关预算经费提出明确规划与进度说明行政院所述民主教育园区之执行政策具体方向文三阿林等人提案 |
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25756.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
25777.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
93 案文資局應全面檢討文化資產普查與補助成果公開機制優先推動高齡或有失傳風險之傳統表演藝術數位保存確保文化資產的永續傳承與保存請文化部提出具體改善計畫書面報告文規型等人提案 |
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25779.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
25797.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
94案工藝中心加速推動工藝資料庫資料校正與公開檢討並落實與觀光產業合作機制積極建立有效輔導機制以確保產業資源挹注效益請文化部提出具體改善支出面包文規型等人提案95案文化部影視及流行音樂產業局 |
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25800.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
25829.409 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
追加預算數772萬2千元凍結25%文化部提出專案報告具體說明經同意後使得凍資委員林倩琦等人提案96案文化部國立台灣工藝研究發展中心追加預算數937萬3千元凍結25%文化部提出專案報告詳細說明經同意後使得凍資委員林倩琦等人提案 |
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25831.505 |
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25858.362 |
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97案文化部國立台灣博物館追加預算510萬9千元凍結本預算25%是文化部提出專案報告去比說明經同意後使得動之委員林倩琦等人提案98案文化部國家人權博物館預算數667萬8千元凍結25%請文化部提出專案報告經同意後使得動之委員林倩琦等人提案99案文化部國立台灣歷史博物館預算數476萬3千元 |
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| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
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凍結25%是文化部提出完整專案報告經同意後 使得凍資文雲建啟等人提案一百案文化部國立台灣文學館 |
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25873.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
25892.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
追加預算案六百萬三千元凍結百分之二十五市文化部提出專案報告詳述經立法院同經同意後使得動之委員林倩琦等人提案一百零一案數位發展部追加預算案三減科學支出兩億元提案委員賴世寶等人 |
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25895.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
25924.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
102案 數位發展部針對防堵不足 偵測延盪 通報不暢問題提出具體改善措施 提出完整解決方案保障民眾財產安全 委員320等人提案103案 數位發展部追加預算 數位產業署追加預算科學支出向下三減促進數位創新動能轉型升級2億元 委員賴世寶等人提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
25941.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
104案起海洋委員會提出海巡無人艦艇籌建計畫以提升我國海巡勤艦增量能減少執法時風險保障我國海巡人員安全委員鍾嘉斌等人提案宣讀完畢 |
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26719.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
26730.886 |
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因為委員如果遇到翁小玲的案子就只好報告我們就是遇到檢驗案子這樣總共沒有多少錢有啦 |
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26733.392 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
26746.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
我跟您講,因為你看嘛,中選會總共剛才15億,然後剛剛又有一個什麼外交部10億吧?沒有加一,外交部一這個你們要不要給他過?然後剛剛1.5億啊?應該1.7了啦,還有一個0.2的 |
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26758.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
26773.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
要留的還是要刪的?要刪的15月要刪然後一個四億多的中選會然後一個四億多的媒體4.7然後其他的看業務會跟那個剛剛他們在講說他們有意見32億而已其他的就是 |
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我跟你講 剛才誰跟我講你們亂嘴加一通 你們什麼物價調整亂寫一通你們掙的多少錢你們掙的多少錢都是國內旅費啊 要去體檢人辦你們做什麼那個判的什麼加薪什麼之類的不是我們 不是我們不是我們 我們是國內旅費 |
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| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
因為我們現在是要把行政程序設出來 |
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26834.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
26841.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
剛才我噴的 謝啟大 謝啟大跟我說你們都他說你們都是用什麼物價調整的要刪多少 要刪多少 |
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| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
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我們盡量不要再三六 三六 不能不三六你看 交通部這麼多我們只提兩千多萬 那是一定必要性兩千多萬 兩千多萬給一千萬就好了啦各局所加起來才兩千多萬你們原來就很多啦因為我們今年不被三六擋住所以我們迴避率只有百分之零點三百分之零點三 萬事盡量沒有不得不做的才拿出來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
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你可以讓我算多少 你要講嗎你增加多少不是 你最佳多少 |
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| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
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那少個兩千萬吧可以吧留差旅費讓你們可以去執行業務就卡掉兩千萬吧卡掉兩千萬吧可以吧好啦就是留下那個司法院的三兩千萬喔三兩千萬那我們可以留個差不多兩千萬就已經一半了因為那個之前差旅費不得留用所以我們沒辦法用其他的錢以後我就可以讓你們自由流動 |
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是司法院本院嗎?司法院本院嗎?全有啦 全部啦 全部啦他總共只有四千九百多萬 好吧來大林大林來大林來委員這樣的話會跟你的這個會有漢德喔沒關係 那個算黨團提案好了好不好算黨團提案好了對大林 |
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請各位保持安靜好不好因為現在很重要要審查各部會的預算民進黨委員要不要請一下 |
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好 過來了好 原則上我們就是主案處理主案處理主案處理看行政部門的意見行政部門可以接受我們就按時過去他不能接受我們就保留到晚上8點再來寫上好不好讓速度快一點好 我們開始看第一案來第一 第二 各位看一下第一 第二是我的就媒體的部分我們就媒體的部分 |
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王威跟賴思寶的提案就是全山喔媒體是主管的行政部門哪個主管的主計長要不要講話 主計長我們四億兩千萬去不山啊 |
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那個後面的 各位帥哥美女 我們就給他們開會好不好 請各位不要講話那個後面小聲一點 不然我們聽不到好嗎 趕快快速來請各位 因為這個很重要 各部位的預算所以請大家在裡面就不要講話除非是本席要求你發言 否則不要講話來 主席講一下我們媒體廣宣4億2千多萬全部不同意你們列 |
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主席長要說幾句嗎主席長還是你同意我們刪沒問題啊 就照案第一個就照案通過嘛對 照案通過就刪了是不是到時候大包小啦大包小 大包小 |
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因為像梅宣的部分像文化部它是當初是被全部刪減然後這個部分似乎也應該要給它有一個那個要有追加一個的一個那個數額啦那像其實以我們組總來講我們明年要辦五年一次的榮林普查那我們也必須要做梅宣那這都必須要做的所以有一些並不是說我們梅宣的部一定是有什麼 |
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其他的一個用途或者怎樣過去的歷史使用這個沒宣費的那個比如說10年啊 10幾年9年給三立啊 95億啊民視95億就因為過去用得不好你們沒有問題你們這個單位比較比較尊潔開支啊對 因為我們一直都是這樣子而且我們明年才要辦5年一次的一個榮林普查這需要做宣導的 是這樣子 |
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像文化部也是這樣我們也沒有全部刪到完這是追加的原來也有給本來就有原來也有給本來37.68那我現在提出追加請黃珊珊委員發言不發言各位我們用一個題目大家換人一次就好了好不好我們這樣子快第一案就保留好了好不好第一案就照案通過沒有 因為民進黨立委還沒到 |
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對啊蛤就第一案就照案通過啊稍等一下我們尊重一下好了不用再三分鐘沒有進來我們就通過了對 好再三分鐘以內他不進來我們就通過了還是你們要方案黨團協商再來方案嘛還有協商嘛沒有關係啊好啦 第一案 第二案先通過好通過來 第二案 |
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第三案翁小玲委員的總統府3000多萬 |
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我這邊要先講一下因為這次的總統府所提出來的追加預算它基本上也不符合法律要件沒有什麼因為重大事故經費超過原來的法定預算所以我這邊認為說其實沒有必要要再同意他們的追加預算而且它裡面都是回編的多把當時大家刪除的又都回編起來 |
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所以主席我是不是可以建議一下我們第一案第二案的部分是不是可以保留好 那個王正希委員你要不要對剛才的話講一下好 對不起剛剛剛好在忙一個事情那電梯也比較慢第一案跟第二案可不可以申請保留已經過了 已經過了不好意思沒有 等一下還有潮汐協商沒關係 還有潮汐協商沒關係 還有潮汐協商看主席怎麼幫忙才是一下我們剛剛已經通過了 |
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沒有關係啦 我們保齡沒關係啦因為黨團協商晚上八點還可以再協商好啦 我們先保齡好 謝謝總統府這部分各位如果這樣子你們通通保齡我們就通通保齡那就沒什麼意思囉就是如果可以大家少刪一點然後你們可以接受這是最好的就不要票決了當然我們也希望少核污密喔你可以給刪多少啦核污密啊 |
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何志偉鋪民署長你可以讓我們刪多少 因為他要刪三千多萬你可以刪多少嘛快點啦 你快點 |
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非常感謝委員提出的這些預算我了解我也完全清楚是否可以就刪一百萬就好再拜託不可能的事情第一個就是你們如果真的錢不夠你們也可以動用第二預備金你們自己本身有第一預備金所以我就說這根本不符合預算法的法定要件追加預算的法定要件對所以沒有什麼這個什麼要什麼三減只三減一百萬 |
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更何況你們現在的114年的總預算還在申請釋憲當中按照賴總統的邏輯這個預算根本不應該執行更何況說你們還來申請追加預算這是完全 |
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來啦 這樣子啦 在視線就不能編預算對不對允許志偉跟翁委員報告一下這樣講不完啦 那個如果你們覺得不能刪的話就保留啦 如果不能刪就保留啦這是2月11號的時候 大院跟韓院長的善意他當時候說叫我們來追加這些預算 |
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那後來我們就來追加了那所以呢跟委員報告一下剛剛您也很kind很nice跟我們說我們還有洞2如果說今天可以追加我們就追加我們就會把洞2把它撤回申請 |
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陳院長的追加預算意思是說你們就不要再去申請釋憲了現在你們是114年的中央政府總預算還在釋憲而且大法官已經受理了這跟你這個軍人待遇條例加給的這個部分你們只是申請釋憲大法官還沒有受理你們都敢不編預算更何況你們今天來搞這個追加預算坦白說我都認為說今天我們來審追加預算也是違憲啊也是違法啊 |
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按照那個邏輯嘛對 只有少部分的案子基本上可能還合法你們現在全部都是違法這個沒有如果我們做一個妥協刪一千萬怎麼樣可以嗎就不干涉就不干涉好 那就保留吧那每個案子都保留了好 這個就保留了好 第四案 |
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第四案過了第四案的一般行政三一百萬科目自行調整他們同意了第四案第五案第五案就大包小了嘛第五案怎麼樣我前面是全三 |
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報告 召委 第五案剛剛跟總統府複密溝通過 刪除一半已經雙方達成共識 74萬3千好 我們74萬3千好 謝謝委員 謝謝大院支持 謝謝好 我們第六案 |
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報告主席 第六案 金額我們同意主席的指導 科目可以調整第六案 一二都如此了一百萬 一百萬 好第七案 翁委員的 |
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我還是同樣的理由基本上這個行政院所提出來的第七案就保留啦主席我是不是可以講一下因為第七案的話他不要講了就第七案保留啦保留啦好不好第七案保留因為其他委員有意見第八案 劉衛恆這裡咧我們希望把檢列192萬1千元的部分改成將特資費187萬9千元全數檢列以上 |
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特資費多少錢可以嗎 我問一下行政院 啊 同意啊那我們改簡列特資費187萬9千元 全數簡列 好 謝謝好 第九案 來第九案是不是是召委的 我們300萬 減300萬減300萬可以啦 減300萬可以 好 |
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謝謝張委員可不可以自己調整喔好 第十案第十案是留中心我們是不是可以劉委員的同意嗎減個十分之一可以嗎十分之一嗎對保留十分之一嗎好 可以減十分之一啦我以為你講留十分之一耶等一下 等一下 等一下第十案耶第十案啊第十案是那些什麼服務中心的錢耶對啊 我本來動議是全三啊對啊 本來就是全三啊這是服務中心那些 |
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酬庸的那個用人耶當然啦 再給你一次機會啦這幾年都快用完了啊跟委員報告因為那個還有租金現在都還欠著不是可以拿走你就列租金進來你怎麼可以全部再列回來呢不是啊 就是在這裡面啦這也不是符合什麼重大事故啊你們就動用第二預備金就好為什麼要追加運算你們第二預備金目前還有五十幾億六十億都還沒有用耶 |
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好 等一下我先插一句各位如果你們沒有案子在這裡的首長可以離開 好不好你們可以離開 就是沒有案子在這裡面的可以離開有案子在這裡面的要留下來 |
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謝謝我們還是要以正式聽啦第二預備金的使用是原預算科目未編列的科目這個是有的科目被刪減那有的科目被刪減你要用沒有編科目的第二預備來自印這個是有所 語法上有所不當那如果你們認為要刪減有爭議那就保留嘛 |
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不是 去年省今年的預算為什麼還會有租金沒有給你們錢 你們怎麼繼續租房子怎麼可以欠 沒有給你們錢 你們可以繼續租房子我們尊重天安委機關在那裡你沒有繳房租 房東沒有趕出你沒有趕出你就不行了那你就要離開撤開啊我們沒給預算你還繼續留在那裡所以你希望這些行政院的副總統關門 |
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不是沒有衛生紙嗎這樣啦你租金水電一些基本的硬體運作我保留30%給你啦剩下30% |
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好 各位先不要講話好不好 拜託各位拜託各位在在本會議室裡面除非本席請你發言 否則請不要講話如果要講話請到外面去喔 請到外面去跟業務沒有關係的首長可以離開了喔我要講一遍喔聯合服務業務減劣70% |
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張文通過 好 11案 劉慧妍的檢列700多案 可以嗎 那個秘書長不是 他等於是全三了 是不是保留一些給我們做政策上的檢一半啦 可以嗎 可以檢一半啦 可以嗎 好 檢一半 來好啦 尊重張偉啦新聞傳播業務檢一半啦 檢50% |
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第十二案 張宏祿委員的主決議我們遵照辦理遵照辦理通過第十三案 主計總署的主決議主席我們遵照辦理遵照辦理十四案故宮的我再講一遍了 拜託各位啊拜託各位在這裡室內不要講話好不好 |
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十四案 來來 報告主席 遵照辦理遵照辦理十五案修正後通過 因為他有修正條文喔報告主席 十五案已經溝通過了遵照辦理你不要講話了喔第十六案 牛丸的檢列五百零八案 |
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我跟召委報告一下這案子早上質詢有提啦因為他那個法制作業都還沒完成啦我跟園民會承諾啦你要增加緣額我們都支持但從明年度的預算我們就會支持但你今年沒辦法執行編也白編好啦今年就不要啦好 召案通過第16案召案通過第17案來 牛委員請繼續講 |
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17案的部分也是一樣原民會有把一些比較細的可以執行的項目有做報告那合計的數據是274萬8千元那我們就按照這些項目來通過保留274萬8千元 其餘簡列保留274274萬8274.8萬保留其餘簡列17案 |
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減裂1700多萬不是不是第17案是減裂1755.2萬減裂1700多萬多少我再講一遍喔第17案 |
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檢列1755萬4000元1755.4元好第18案來18案對不起 |
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中選會 全數三選18案是不是我說明一下不要說明了 18案保留喔各位我們爭取時間 19案19案 併入18案保留 併入18案好 20案 撤案他已經撤完了 21案 |
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21號陸委會這裡是 委員陸委會這裡要不要講話來是可以讓我算多少來是 報告委員我們還是讓海基會針對台商陸配陸生做點事是不是我們依照牛委員的一些提議來通過 |
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就是牛委員在二十二案有檢列這個五千八百八十萬檢列五八八零萬一千元是可以二十一跟二十二合併了就是這三個都是入委會就用二十二案就對了是不是對啦二十一跟二十二合併了二一二二就合併變二十二 |
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好 21 跟 22 合併減列 5880.1應該以 22 萬為主啦 應該就以 22 萬沒錯23萬23萬 各位立法院主管的我們組決議 通過好不好組決議通過了 24 案 |
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司法院那個希望能夠保留各法院體檢人犯到法院來開庭的差旅費可以檢列多少講一下吧你可以給我們檢列多少你們差旅費多少呢可以算多少差旅費全部是三千六百七三千六百七千五萬五千三一千萬好不好三一千萬啦可以可以啦三一千萬好不好好就三一千萬 |
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主席 聽起來剛剛23案是修正後通過吧這要限於就是說是用你剛剛講說什麼提檢犯人的那個費就是要把那個理由幫我再補充上去 寫清楚這樣聽懂嗎那個用途指定用途然後減一千萬就這樣用途寫清楚 然後減一千萬就這樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
25萬各位25萬同意同意動情20萬26萬來 |
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考試院的報告委員這個部分我們是因為保障法通過增加的業務支出那有跟翁委員報告過了對是 我同意因為他們那個因為那個什麼法案通過之後增加人數所以簡單來說就簡列48萬對 簡列48萬26案簡列48萬27案黃委員的27案同意同意 同意來28案來 |
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同樣的道理就是內政部基本上沒有理由來提追加率28萬我們就保留啦28萬保留29萬通過改組決議通過30案檢列6億內政部的在這邊希望能夠保留或是檢列3億就好了 |
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一半 再加一個啦 剪裂4億我給你通過啦 剪裂4億剪裂4億 那就是剩2億是嗎好 同意那這次是包在一起喔 報告賴昭偉好 30案剪裂4億喔對 30到33是包在一包的剛剛33都是剪裂4億啦好 34 來 |
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國土署的 各位不要講話喔 各位不要講話喔報告 報告 趙偉是這樣啦 因為這一億都地方補助款喔可不可以少砍一點 因為都是要給地方 地方也很需要這樣六千好不好那劉委員 我剛有跟委員 趙偉再報告一下六千萬好不好 劉委員同意是不是好 六千萬來 好 34 34 35都是六千萬了喔 34了喔 |
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報告召委剛剛你講的那個簡略示意 科目自行調整可以 35案 主決議 通過來36案通過 37案 國土署的主決議剛剛說過了 通過 38案 文字修正通過39案 照案通過 40案 |
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28220.546 |
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警政署的那個媒體宣導的部分那個我跟召委報告一下這個案子我們之前在審預算的時候因為要先看影片的品質所以凍結了一部分當然就影響了後續的期程嘛那麼相對來講他在媒體脫波的預算當然就沒有要用那麼多所以當初就減列了四千萬其實也經過警政署的同意那麼這一次再提追加我覺得蠻奇怪那跟警政署通 |
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通過化之後 他們也說在這麼短的時間內你要再增加重新招標可能會有持續的問題啦所以召喚通過啦召喚通過啦喔召喚通過 因為這檢視署同意但是他有一個25萬5千元跟他的差略那些有關係我覺得這個可以保留來 檢列4千萬 好不好好啦 同意好 謝謝組長 謝謝檢列4千 |
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刑事警察第40案 有關於刑事警察業務 檢列4000萬 科目自行調整41案 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過了喔 主決議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
28324.006 |
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一千萬喔 通過 這已經通過通過了 一千萬對不起 那個戴昭偉 我們跟您協商你是寫五百 五百萬一千 我不是寫一千欸沒有沒有 你有簽名了在這邊 在這邊因為我這裡改一千欸沒有沒有 科目字型調整五百然後文字修正 在這裡 來 趕快給他看好啦好啦 五百啦 五百啦好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
28325.882 |
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好啦 五百好 四十四案 五百啦 五百萬柯文智請調整各位請肅靜好不好 請肅靜我們 或者沒辦法處理好 四十五案保留啦 因為四十五案保留因為這個錢這麼多 他們不會保留的四十五案 外交部那個牽涉到我們中華民國外交官的內外 沒關係 保留啦 保留啦不要說明了 沒關係那個四十六案 |
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28354.99 |
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9億要保留是不是還是同意保留保留還是46你們要不然砍2億好不好砍4億啦我給你通過可以嗎4億還給你5億3億3億3億拜託啦直接中華民國啦中華民國的外交官啦3億啦 |
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好啦 46簡列三例啦可不可以自己調整好啦主席併45好不好 46應該跟45是一樣的46跟45是一樣的 我們要交不不一樣不一樣不一樣 45不一樣欸 不要不要好啦 47 47啦 47好 謝謝主席47300多萬 國防部的來300多 啊 主席好 來3減3減327萬5千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
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不是跟委員協商過要撤案嗎327萬5千元我們有協商的好像部長並不同意所以我們就全部通過刪減我們全刪因為我們原來協商的並沒有按照協商那我們就全刪 保留那顧部長啊你們協商沒有談好先保留一下好不好先保留一下 趕快去說我們協商的部分是哪一個部分沒有同意 |
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你們沒有同意啊 你們都不同意啊所以50跟52我們本來協商大概只有三筆嘛那現在如果說通通要推翻那我們就全部保留 全部都要刪就47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55這幾個案子我們全刪 |
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我們就按照我們的提案刪除好不好我們沒有按照我們協商的那個部長啊 你先跟私底下跟馬文講現在從47到第幾案啊47到55先保留好不好47到55先保留 等一下走第二輪你們趕快私底下協商好不好 |
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47到55我們先保留 趕快去協商協商各位拜託大家肅靜 拜託大家肅靜56 |
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| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
28516.163 |
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五十六岸教育部主管的五十六岸教育部主管的同樣的他基本上也都是回編所以呢這基本上並不是屬於符合最佳預算的要件所以在這邊的話建議就全山五十六岸教育部長可以同意嗎主席是我們這一個山一圈然後項目由我們自行來調整可以嗎 歐委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
三兩千好了啦三兩千啦三四千啦因為我根本認為沒有必要啦所以就是要的話就是沒有啦我我我三兩千科目自行調整啦好不好要這樣子啦好啦三兩千科目自行調整很好啦這很好來來五十七案五十七案法務部的來曾部長可以嗎四千六是不是可以減得一千萬科目自行減得兩千萬啦減得兩千萬好啦好 |
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有保護部的錢其實也是很多 現在都是追加也是你們本來就已經在你們的這個迴避好了可以了 2000元可以了 2000元可以了柯木我們自行調整 柯木自行調整好啦好啦 柯木自行調整喔好 58案 58案我們修正通過喔59案 |
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28573.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
28590.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
產業發展署跟委員報告是不是這個部分我們可以給我們一千萬因為這個都是給傳統產業跟中老企業的輔導五十九萬喔三五千萬啦兩億三五千萬啦好不好可不可以自己調整五千萬啦好 謝謝錢五千萬啦 |
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好可不可以自己調整來60案來60案已經有改主決議了主決議通過61案主決議通過61案遵照辦理62案主決議通過拜託各位拜託各位在這裡面不要講話比手畫腳不要講話請你們出去好不好那個不是在裡面的長官就出去好不好 |
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28624.538 |
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28637.666 |
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你們如果還有聲音我們就不處理囉拜託各位 拜託各位不要講話在裡面要講話請出去講話喔包括樓上的不要講話樓上的62案主決議通過63案主決議通過64案 |
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28650.58 |
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28670.045 |
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主決議通過65萬A 主決議通過66萬交通部主管的三兩千多萬而已 可以嗎報告 報告委員我們有幾個案子齁 要拜託幫忙報告不不不 你就直接講這個就好了 多少 講一下 給你減354萬拜託讓我們減354萬啦給你不用講不用講 給你1893萬 |
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28685.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
28699.067 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
這個就公路局的部分1269萬9千 航港局的部分341萬2千 公安署及所屬有293萬2千這給你們其他三組好不好好 好 好 同意我再講一遍啦 來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
28710.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
我再講一遍 公路局所屬1269萬9香港局第66案 341萬2千元觀光署級所屬293.2千元1萬全數刪除 刪除沒有多少錢了啦因為這個加起來就 總共是1893萬2千元對啦 189幾 所以 到只有3百萬而已啦好 謝謝 通過了 通過了部長可以嗎 |
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28729.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
28736.688 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
這個陳學霸對你太好了67案遵照辦理67案遵照辦理好 67案遵照辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
28749.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
六十八案六十八案也是建議全部刪除六十八案 洪部長怎麼樣 要刪多少快點啦 你們快點不是 你們已經很多錢了啦 也不符合這個法定洪委員 這個錢主要是給工會很多給工會的勞教或者是服務勞工的這些約顧人員的薪資我們是希望真的不要全部刪除好不好那至少一半好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
三四千萬好不好原來勞動部的預稅就已經非常之高了三千五這是很高的錢了你們本來能達到的預算現在就很高你們現在很有追加預算可以啦還是有啦 三千五啦 撿三千五撿三千五撿三千五可以啦 撿三千五撿三千五喔 六十八萬科目自行調整啦好 六十九萬 |
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28806.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
28806.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
呃 遵照辦理 72 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
28836.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
70岸是農業部的部分剛才有跟翁委員討論因為我們的10.9億裡面將近有8.17億是針對於有關於土石流防災跟邊坡防災的這些建設的設備費跟相關的委辦的部分你告訴我答案就好了好不好這個部分剛才委員但是我們還有一些事務費的部分我們剛剛講了基本上就簡列1億800萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
28838.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
28862.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
可不可以剪裂1億8百萬然後其他科目進行調整可以可以可以剪裂1億8百萬部長我有意見那個主席農業農業的東西今天一定放水的啦那個賴小姐她已經放水了啦我們那裡剛剛已經講了嘛對不對已經放水了已經放水了算都算出來了不要浪費大家時間了啦就剪裂1億8百萬1億8百萬啦已經放水了啦不要再講了啦 |
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28891.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
已經放水了 真的放水了十億變成一億多 你這樣七十億要決議通過我們科目進行調整嘛有一部分科目進行調整已經過了就好了一億零八百萬你們是指定用途我剛剛講說只能用在設備費用啊對 剛才算的部分是八億一千多萬嘛所以應該要刪掉只能用成設備費你們不要拿去給我做什麼宣傳費啊我不會去拿去宣傳費因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
28892.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
28905.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
扣掉這兩個的話應該是兩億多但你剛才說一億多那其他的部分因為我們還有一般事務費的部分那現在很多現勘的部分需要一些費用稅就是科部自己調整你不要再講了現在都給你放水了你還講他同意砍兩億我就給他砍一億不要再講了就這樣子通過了72案來主決議通過73案主決議通過 |
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28921.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
28939.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
74案 阻絕役 通過75案 撤案了 好 76案 阻絕役 遵照辦理遵照辦理 77案 阻絕役 遵照辦理78案 來 衛福部的 也是阻絕役的78案 遵照辦理 好 79案 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
28943.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
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主決議 遵照辦理 八十案遵照辦理 八十一案遵照辦理 八十二案遵照辦理 八十三案遵照辦理 八十四案改成主決議遵照辦理 八十五案文字修正 主決議文字修正遵照辦理 八十六案遵照辦理 八十七案謝謝文化部建議保留 |
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87案保留對88案針對提案已經說明林委員不再堅持各位各位長官我跟你們報告一下林委員有不再堅持嗎他有跟你們討論過了嗎這個案我有一起提案有有那個主席我們事先有溝通88案針對提案已經說明了不再堅持對呀我一起提案對呀我80 |
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8787我們建議保留 |
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這個 我跟各位長官報告喔李部長 聽好喔 李部長保留到院會去表決你們是多多沒有喔能夠在這裡解決能夠說服委員同意你們是最好的比如他刪多少你給他少刪一點這是最好的答案到院會去表決你們什麼都沒有我先跟你們講就跟你們提醒 提醒這樣子就跟你們提醒這一點喔不要都一直保留一直保留對你們不見得好喔 |
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保留結果就是沒有因為87案 翁曉琳委員建議全三全三所以我建議保留全三就保留啊因為她已經全三所以我建議保留88案88案針對提案已經說明委員不再堅持我連署她凍結而已啦 凍結可以啦 |
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凍結可以啦 凍結可以啦凍結說明而已啦到時候來說明而已啦你們不要不要 這個都他本來應該是要刪減的啦凍結 你要很高興啦不要練那筆啦 這個好不好 |
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凍結沒有 我這裡做一個裁示好不好凍結百分之十啦 改百分之十啦 好不好凍結百分之十喔 89案改成主決議 主決議通過啊 90案 改成主決議通過 91案 改成主決議通過 92案 存照辦理 93案 存照辦理 |
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94案 存照辦理95案 也是因為已經跟提案說明不再堅持凍結10%啦好不好 改成10%好 96案也凍結10%啦 凍結都是10%啦喔97案 凍結10% 98案 凍結10% 99案 凍結10%100案 凍結10% 101案 抒發不得 |
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剪列1啦 我剪列1啦 就這樣子啦齁好 同意齁 剪列1科目自行調整齁1001案 剪列1 科目自行調整102案準決議 準在辦理103案 剪列1科目自行調整好104案 |
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主決議 文智修正遵照辦理好 我們就結束了喔104 總統府的 回到總統府那個國防部長 顧部長啊 顧部長你跟馬委員提那個有四十幾案到五十幾案的四十七到五十五不好意思 我剛剛這邊有一個錯誤在第七十案 |
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對 其實應該是要減列2億7669萬6千好對 跟農業部剛剛有討論過了剛剛的數字是錯的所以是減列2億7669萬6千2.7699對 2.76692.7669還有6千元2億7669萬6千 |
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兩億七千六百六十九兩億七千六百六十九萬六千元好 解決好 各位還有 哪裡總統府的 結束 總統府的 |
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來 國防部長 顧部長跟馬雲談得怎麼樣好 那就全面保留了保留到晚上8點你要來喔 你要來 17到55萬全部保留因為跟委員還沒談好好 各位我們現在這一局的協商就到此 |
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國防部47到55全數保留我們請先讀協商結論來先讀協商結論第一案保留第二案保留 |
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宣讀協商結論第一案保留第二案保留第三案保留第四案改檢列100萬元科目字型調整第五案改檢列74萬3千元第六案檢列100萬元科目字型調整第七案保留 |
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第八案改檢列特資費一百八十七萬九千元第九案檢列施政及法治業務三百萬元科目自行調整第十案檢列聯合服務業務百分之七十科目自行調整第十一案檢列新聞傳播業務百分之五十第十二案第十三案第十四案照案通過第十五 |
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沒有15還沒念第15案修正通過第16案照案通過第17案簡列綜合規劃發展1755萬4千元第18案保留第19案保留20案撤案第21案22案合併處理法證業務簡列5880萬1千元 |
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第23案修正通過改為主決議第24案司法院主管檢列1000萬元科目自行調整第25案照案通過第26案檢列 |
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考試院主管48萬元科目自行調整第27案照案通過第28案保留第29案修正通過改為主決議第30案到33案併案處理簡列民政支出4億元科目自行調整第34案簡列工業支出及交通支出6千萬元 |
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第35案修正通過第36案修正通過第37案照案通過第38案修正通過第39案照案通過第40案簡列刑事警察業務4000萬元科目自行調整第41案42案43案照案通過第44案簡列入出國籍移民署 |
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局移民管理業務500萬元科目自行調整第45案保留第46案簡列外交支出3億元科目自行調整第47案至55案均保留第56案簡列教育部主管2000萬元科目自行調整第57案簡列法務部 |
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主管兩千萬元科目自行調整第五十八案修正通過改為主決議第五十九案簡列工業技術升級輔導五千萬元科目自行調整第六十案修正通過改為主決議第六十一案照案通過 |
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第62案修正通過改為主決議第63案修正通過改為主決議第64案修正通過改為主決議第65案修正通過改為主決議第66案除公路局即所屬1269萬9千元航港局341萬2千元觀光署即所屬293萬2千元外其餘均檢列 |
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第67案照案通過第68案勞動部主管減列3500萬元科目自行調整第69案照案通過第70案減列農業部主管2億70案還是回到1億 |
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農業部主管先簡列兩億七千六百六十九萬六千元第七十一案修正通過改為主決議第七十二案照案通過第七十三案七十四案修正通過均改為主決議第七十五案測案 |
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第76案修正通過改為主決議第77案修正通過第78案照案通過第79案修正通過改為主決議第80案到83案均照案通過第84案修正通過改為主決議第85案修正通過第86案照案通過第87案保留第88案修正凍結10% |
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第89案到91案修正通過均改為主決議第92案到94案均照案通過第95案到100案均改為凍結10%95案到100案均改為凍結10%對不對 |
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第101案檢列1億元科目自行調整第102案招案通過第103案檢列1億元科目自行調整第104案修正通過 宣讀完畢好 報告委員會我們有一個修正啦因為第70案檢列1億800萬科目自行調整但是不可以用在宣傳會方面 |
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這個做這樣的求證70案好 各位對以上所宣讀的有異議沒有異議我們就照協商結論通過那今天的會議到此好 報告委員會本次會議做以下的決議說明及巡打完畢 |
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第二 委員質詢未及答覆後請補充資訊的請相關部會在一周內以書面答覆委員另有要求期限者從其所定委員林玉璟 盧憲一 高津素美陳樹悅 羅美玲 沈發慧蔡其昌 魯明哲 許巧欣呂玉玲 邱志偉 林益君沈博洋 林黛樺 邱奕穎 尤浩 許欣怡 |
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王定宇 武力華 林淑芬 張家俊 陳昌明 邱振軍 廖偉祥所提的書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報並請相關部會以書面答覆審查中華民國114年中央政府總預算追加預算案除照協商結論通過後外 |
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各款項簡列的業務計畫項目或工作計畫結束而且未指定項目者科目授權機關原往例自行調整其餘部分均照列有關稅儲正式別預算水桶以上機關別審查結果調整請問各位委員對以上決議有無異議 |
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沒有異議我們通過報告委員會中華民國114年度中央政府總預算追加預算案含機密部分審查完畢你據審查報告提報院會討論院會討論前須交由黨團協商院會討論的時候有本席補充所以我們請問各位委員對以上局議有異議沒有我們通過 |
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那本次聯席會議議事錄授權由本席核定後確定各位委員有無異議沒有異議我們通過本次會議議程進行完畢倘若有不在場委員提議不提書面質詢一併列入記錄刊登公報並請議事人員協助處理最後一點我加的晚上八點 |
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各位長官啦你們各單位的晚上八點要來因為八點是黨團的協商會地點在哪裡啊原則上302啦到時候等開會通知喔 |
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晚上8點晚上8點由韓國瑜院長主持黨團協商會議現在今天各位看到的只是委員的提案現在還有黨團的提案還沒進來所以各位先不要高興喔先不要高興還有後面一大塊黨團的提案黨團提案進來然後韓院長來主持協商好那麼散會 謝謝 |
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慢一點 |