| IVOD_ID |
168885 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168885 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T09:10:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T09:20:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84779268509dfa8b89decd4e8d0095015936c9d108d903c1832aad447d12a835725ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳昭姿 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:10:15 - 09:20:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於監察院主管（不含審計部及所屬）收支部分。
【僅進行詢答；預算提案於5月6日下午2時截止收件】） |
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謝謝主席 有請黃秘書長好 請黃秘書長好 秘書長早秘書長 四年前就塵埃落定的林志堅論文案最近監察院稱說有民眾這個案子因為接到民眾陳情所以監察委員本於職權必須啟動調查程序他必須開始調查這個台大國發所 |
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在這個當時的撤銷程序我想請問監察院是不是只要有民眾的陳情監察院真的就會啟動這個調查程序嗎就是我問的說只要有民眾陳情你們就會啟動這個調查程序嗎這當然不是必然的關係但是這一次的調查當然以委員的對外的說明是基於民眾陳情來進行的 |
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您最近對媒體說了監察院一屆大概有十多萬件的案子那這十萬左右的案子都會處理嗎?都會調查嗎?沒有辦法但是我們基本上都會盡量予以陳情的民眾予以函附 |
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相關的看法例如有些裁判案件真的我們監察院也不能已經司法裁判案件監察院也不能對於這個相關的裁判做深入的追究民主黨我們來看一下數字剛剛跟您報告說有一點點落差但是我們查詢的時間去年監察院收受的人民書賬總共有1500 |
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15549件那合派的調查案件就有186件你知道這個比例是多少嗎 你有算過嗎 |
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監察院在前一篇的新聞稿剛剛我談到的那個說是因為民眾陳情但基於職責他必須啟動調查程序但是因為收受的陳情案跟調查的這個數據實在落差太大了所以我非常好奇秘書長只有1.2%有這麼多15000多件但事實上這個你進行這個核拍調查就186件 |
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那監察院所說的這個機遇職責必須啟動調查到底是基於什麼立案標準是哪一種身份的民眾陳情才算數呢 |
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這個完全是由監委依照法律來行使職權來進行所以我們是監察行政沒有辦法去干涉你可以了解他們的立案原則立案原則是有法定的一個規範是有一個法定規範這立案原則是可以我們這邊有像那個法制其實我也看過上面寫的條文是說得立案調查 |
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這個德這個是非常的詭異也就是監察委員他有選擇權他做或不做他有選擇權不是說所有的案子所有陳情他都要立案調查德那這個德以我自己提過我也提過陳情案我在2018年3月向監察院提出這個台灣代理與育母法置換 刻不容緩的陳情文這麼多年沒下文2018年到現在沒下文秘書你可不可以幫我協助我調出來重啟調查呢 |
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我沒辦法 那個還是 但是我會把將您的陳情啊 跟您的建議帶回去這是我個人 然後是為了眾多台灣的病人啊對 我來請監委他也不管啊 那這個到底立案調查 得立案調查那我應該可以了解整個什麼篩選這個案子嘛那到底是哪些身份人講的有算數啊 哪些人不查啊 |
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那個秘書長就是我要繼續再請教你上週監察院的人權委員會的這個 |
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新聞稿就發布了空中中視蔡學良這個案子非常久了將即死亡命案的調查報告我非常謝謝監察院終於對這個案子做出調查但我必須問秘書長秘書長你知道嗎?到底蔡學良的媽媽游瑞銘女士她是多久以前提出來的這個像監察院就一再陳情這個案子你知道嗎?你有概念嗎?她陳情了多久? |
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第一次提的時候,你不知道嗎?第一次什麼時候提?什麼時候?第一次請求陳情,就是他孩子啊,他到處去,像立委,像很多地方陳情啊,像總統都有啊應該97年就開始申請 |
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97年 20幾年事件發生之後沒多久事件發生他就開始 但是他正式跟監察院陳情至少 至少從2013是洪仲秋案嘛也是軍中的案件我就知道至少那個時候開始 他就開始蔡媽媽就開始向監察院陳情了一二十年嘛 根據就說一二十年下來你們才有一個調查報告結果出來那結果調查結果也確認喔有許多單位是有疏失的喔 |
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秘書長一個媽媽失去了孩子而且有冤有弊有冤案有弊案在其中結果監察院讓他等了這麼久等了一二十年這種立案派查的狀況不用檢討嗎秘書長您至少也可以了解說怎麼收案法然後收案的到底進行多久就算你不能是監察委員行使監察委員的職責但是這個數字應該要有啊 |
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我曾經擔任這個藥害救濟基金會董事長啊我們也不能夠去介入整個藥害救濟的專業評估但是我們都有統計數字啊有多少件進來做多久 這個過程怎麼樣我們都會了解啊 標準用的是什麼這是專業是交給他們去做那你不可能沒有資料啊99年金山進行調查有提出調查報告要求國防部做一些改善 |
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做一些改善 人命都沒有了 媽媽都哭了幾十年 眼淚都乾了好 再來 我就說為什麼我覺得你們選擇權太大了去年12月在野黨好幾位立委 記憶猶新吧親自到監察院遞交彈劾卓榮泰院長的陳情書原因是因為很清楚的證據 就罪證確鑿 叫做不附屬才化法 |
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這個就是迴旋亂正啊兩個禮拜前翁委員 翁小玲委員還問了秘書長你立案進度那你回答說還在研究中兩個禮拜又過去了那請問你們研究結果如何 誰在研究啊是監察委員嗎 還是幕僚單位到底要研究多久 我總可以了解吧我們預計這個 |
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這個在司法預證委員會我們請司法預證委員會等一下來說明這禮拜我跟翁委員答覆的部分事實上我們已經這個研究報告已經要在下個月的司法預證委員會送進去司法預證委員會進行體會討論 |
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這樣是代表成案了嗎?就是代表已經要立案調查了嗎?你這樣講說要去做開會討論立案調查最後還是要監委來回覆這個問題他本身最後這案子的立案行政的部分就是要很積極嘛我們已經具體的把整個的那個行政調查的相關的資料以及研究的內容提報給監察院的委員是證據的確證最早 |
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這個字太清楚了,這個憲法讀一讀再看一下所以說秘書長,社會大眾把監察院當作廢物院跟肥貓院也不是沒道理啦,它不是憑空污衊的您之間的論文案更濟密,現在還被翻出來想要幫它重新洗白嗎?那同樣是市民它任內的也有人提,12億的新竹棒球場的弊案 |
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調查四年安安靜靜那個也是最正確找啊大家都看得到啊圖片啊有人受傷啊這個選手大概現在是一個廢物棒球場吧所以這個等於說四年前林志堅他的論文他的個人作用讓民進黨這個學術倫理大概這個顏面盡失那現在他又想要用自己之力不管他是請誰去陳情他會讓監察院口口捍衛的這個監察權蕩然無存 |
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對不對 所以這個大家都看很清楚 監察院調查的效率會隨著人會隨著被調查的對象 滾動調查喔你自己人 派公務車就口頭道歉那這個有人放的 有人一放放那麼久 有人一放有人就趕快幾年前要把他撈出來你是重新要有新的政治動作嗎 |
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這個案子報告委員沒有辦法去說明說這就是針對林志堅案但是確實監察院目前有這個案子但這個案子是在113年的4月9號就已經立案了立案然後一直查處到最近然後經過媒體的揭露 |
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我們會督導我們所屬在效率上面再積極提升 |
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所以秘書長難怪人家說監察院你們當時說業務費不夠衝擊諸多監察委員的業務但是現在你還有餘意再翻出林志堅的案子來調查某個程度代表監察院還是有能力運作還是有水電有衛生紙可以供監察院同仁使用 |
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他們是去年追加減之後勉強總共的業務費加起來就是全部的三成勉強讓這個機關還能夠在日常的業務上面我的意思是說你這個案子也可以把它重啟那該做的不是可見你們的調查作業需要用的預算可能還是足夠啦還是足夠啦絕對是不夠的請你要把我們的這個訊息帶回去請監察院這個效率不要大小眼不要大小心啦 |
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要好好調查新竹棒球案的弊案還有卓院長的彈劾案可以嗎 可以把我們的訊息傳回去嗎你沒有辦法負責任但你至少可以把我的訊息傳回去不然我是對空氣講話我們每次來立法院一定把委員的心聲跟替人民喉舌的內容帶回去檢討員聽啊這是一定的 這當然是一定的好 謝謝民事長 謝謝主席 |