| IVOD_ID |
168860 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168860 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-27 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-27T10:19:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-27T10:30:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8fcf676897be76b9ac741d14883cdf04fe7e989f52ae31568df8c171d4c1cef9a50e264968218f985ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
翁曉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:46 - 10:30:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期「對總統提出彈劾案」全院委員會聽證會（事由：第11屆第5會期「對總統提出彈劾案」全院委員會聽證會） |
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主席各位先進在場的專家學者還有全體國人媒體先生們大家好先前聆聽了專家學者們的報告發言之後其實本席感慨萬千因為我們知道從民國76年 |
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解嚴之後到現在將近快滿40年了那麼我國歷經了李登輝馬英九蔡英文等等這個還有陳水扁等四位的總統執政再且不論他們的功過至少從來沒有一位總統是像賴清德一樣是拒絕履行憲法義務那麼挑戰憲法紅線賴清德他沒收立法權 |
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拒絕公布立法院三讀通過的法律那麼也拒絕一線來提名大法官故意的讓憲法法庭癱瘓所以我們知道我們原來有15個人的15位大法官組成的憲法法庭現在變成是違憲五人大法官組成的憲法法庭賴清德他是真以為他自己一手就可以沒收了立法權和司法權嗎 |
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賴清德任命的行政院院長卓榮泰他不附屬法律不執行法律不依法逼入預算那麼也不提名NCC的委員的人事案甚至他之前還不打算公布中選會委員的人事令這個如果不是賴清德授意 |
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就是執行賴清德的這個意志所以本席基本上是不相信卓榮泰是有天大的膽子敢公然的去違反他老闆賴清德的意志那麼甚至騎到賴清德的頭上去做壞事 |
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所以賴清德不要把不公布法律的責任推給卓榮泰如果他不認同卓榮泰的做法他大可以把卓榮泰換掉但是賴清德有嗎事實上並沒有本席不客氣的說賴清德卓榮泰兩個人就是一搭一唱同理為奸但是賴清德的惡性更高他違法失職的情節是更為明顯重大 |
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還記得賴靖德在之前的總統選舉辯論會上面說中華民國憲法是災難那麼去年他在團結時講的時候也講 |
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民主不是表決贏就可以喔不是喔所以從賴清德這兩年的言行表現就可以知道他基本上就是要有意的要毀滅要蹂躪中華民國憲法他正是不做滿腦子的就在搞破壞企圖透過選擇性的不公布法律或公布法律來掏空憲政制度那麼基本上賴清德基本上就是個憲政殺手 |
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由此可以知道就是其實在這邊本心很擔心的就是說賴清德他基本上就是想搞比軍事戒嚴還要恐怖的憲政戒嚴他想當台版的影席樂 |
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軍事戒嚴我們知道它要有軍隊要有命令要公告然後呢憲法可能會暫時停止適用但是今天在台灣發生的事我們根本沒有宣布戒嚴啊也沒有停止憲法條文的適用但是國會通過的法律竟然可以被凍結 |
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這表示什麼就是台灣的民主形式上看起來在運作但是實質上已經憲政停止運作了這就是最危險的一個狀態也就是我們這邊講的無聲的戒嚴 |
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賴清德說要立法院不要搞彈劾要做些正事不要讓國家運作卡卡的可是本席要說的是就是因為賴清德不做正事禁搞破壞都快要把台灣的民主憲政給卡死了 |
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所以我們今天才要做這項非常重要而且有意義的正事就是對賴清德總統提出彈劾案我們要留下歷史紀錄表達廣大的民意對賴清德表示國會踐踏憲政民主的不滿與抗議好 那接下來我想要邀請林騰耀教授時間暫停對 不好意思 謝謝主席那麼我想邀請林騰耀教授還有黃請堂教授 |
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請兩位這邊有些問題想要就教兩位教授不是質詢跟備詢 是請教是用請教答詢好 那麼非常謝謝兩位教授今天在百忙之中來到立法院來進行對於韓何賴先生總統的 |
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你的問題能不能大聲一點我沒有聽得很清楚 |
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好 我再講一遍就是請問在您的印象當中有沒有哪一個國家的總統是曾經有拒絕公布法律的而且在非常短的時間裡面拒絕公布法律沒有沒有總統像他這個樣子嘛 |
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你把全世界的憲政史拿來翻一翻吧對所以也沒有哪位總統是拒絕提名大法官的吧除非拿那個德國的希特勒來比一比可能還可以其他大概沒有這個樣子在中華民國的憲政史上也看不到賴清德做這些事情其他總統也沒有做這些包括阿彬也沒有這個樣子 |
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阿扁也沒有當時拒絕提名大法官吧陳水扁總統當時有沒有提名大法官嗎也沒有嗎那個沒有吧大家可以看到就是這個毀憲亂政的這個現象在賴清德這裡是最明顯的陳水扁也是少數總統但是賴清德是少數 |
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亚巴的总统 |
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謝謝林老師其實本席在之前剛剛有提到就是我最擔心的就是賴清德會不會搞憲政戒嚴那這邊想請教黃檢堂教授就是如果說以現在賴清德的這樣的做法他可能主導行政院長不附屬然後他也不公布法律他也不把行政院院長狀態給換掉未來有沒有可能會導致會變成像是憲政戒嚴的這種狀況 |
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整個台灣的憲法就停止適用 |
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就是說他現在的這些的行為就是說隨時提起復議啦那麼這個葛奎就拒絕附屬啦或甚至這個法律案這個已經生效後這個拒絕執行啦等等這些喔那麼那這些是我們可以說是違憲違法的行為喔那麼 |
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至於說他會不會走到這個戒嚴那戒嚴有戒嚴的那個程序以及我們有戒嚴法作為規範的依據那麼就是說他要這個立法院可以在一定的時間內來來追認這樣子所以立法院上是有一個這個制衡的機制那麼另外就是從國際比較來講就是說如果蓄意那麼這個 |
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以國安的理由等等這些像飲食業這個樣子來發動戒嚴這樣的一個策略行動事實上可能是得不償失的好 謝謝 那麼請教林教授您會不會認為說有可能會這個發音我都聽不清楚不曉得是聲音的關係還是怎樣我沒有聽懂你 |
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妳要發的問題我的意思是講說以賴清德現在的這種做法未來有沒有可能台灣會走上所謂的像是憲政戒嚴也就是整個的憲法我們的法律都被凍結因為現在他沒有辦法這個發音有問題沒有辦法聽得很清楚 |
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本先生很擔心未來會不會出現台版隱形月賴清德的狀況賴清德可能形式上他不搞軍事戒嚴但是他透過他不公佈法律而且他也容忍 |
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卓榮泰他不附屬法律甚至不依法行政那麼讓台灣變成憲政整個的我們的憲政秩序就進入到一個完全無法運作停擺的一個狀況這是本席非常擔心的那麼還有就是說這邊要請教黃老師的就是這個我們知道憲法徵凶條文裡面有講到 |
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對於總統在我們憲法第72條你有講到總統應於10日公佈法律您認為這個應公佈法律的這個應他到底是總統的義務還是這是他的裁量權 |
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我認為這是他的義務他不享有裁量權因為我們是可以說是權力分立底下我們這個五權我們是立法院是國家最高的立法權那麼總統不能實質審查決定要不要公布這樣 |
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他頂多 我說在德國法大概只能簽入意見所以這個法案有一些爭議那就這樣 但是還是要公佈那公佈讓下面的程序比如說復議的程序啦申請到憲法法庭這個裁判的這個程序能夠進行這樣子那我再講一句就是說我們會不會走到這個憲政的這個獨裁憲政界 我認為說 |
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我們要知道我們台灣百姓是善良的 溫柔的但是也是對民主有非常大的信念這從大罷免好 謝謝翁曉琳委員發言謝謝兩位教授的說明好 謝謝 |