| IVOD_ID |
168819 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168819 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T12:14:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T12:25:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a0a6b12795be5442759f30a5a8a0aa566726ceb1fc87991608965b28c46199ccceb4dfd8bc894f5d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
郭國文 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:14:14 - 12:25:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、農業部陳部長駿季、衛生福利部石部長崇良、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿就「馬鈴薯輸入之邊境管制、檢疫、查驗等機制如何保障國人食品安全，及後市場抽驗預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關主計總處暨審計部、審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部桃園市審計處、審計部臺中市審計處、審計部臺南市審計處、審計部高雄市審計處部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第3項一般性補助款-財政部主管第1目財政部、第2目國庫署；第13項一般性補助款-其他第1至8目。災害準備金。第二預備金。（僅詢答）
【預算提案截止時間：4月23日（四）下午5時】） |
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市長為什麼每次講到這種有爭議性的議題相關的單位講話都像公文一樣就不會用白話文的語言怎麼講都講民眾聽不懂的語言到底出了什麼狀況 |
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民眾聽不懂所以說一個馬鈴薯的事情搞到馬鈴薯之亂我就問一下嘛那個進口檢疫是財政部是不是還是衛福部還是你們房檢局 |
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那我再問一下檢驗的比例有沒有方寬沒有這兩個就是重點啊這兩個重點講清楚就好了好不好 |
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市長請回那我再問一下衛福部衛福部最近有一個洗產地的這個高雄市議員邱余軒的老公他的公司大發食材行分別進口中國跟越南進來的芝麻跟香菇更惡劣的他們是用貼為台灣的產地的標籤這明顯洗產地賣給高雄的學童來吃還怪法規誤導 |
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市長啊,說一下好不好,這件事情有沒有裁罰?有,這個部分溫局已經罰八萬了溫局已經裁罰八萬,另外因為涉刑法假期所以已經移送檢調至於議員的壓力就把他蓋下來吧 |
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沒有沒有,目前已經送這個檢調了,對這已經是發生了事實,這才是需要大力去裁罰的事情啊,對不對?是,是同樣食安問題怎麼會有兩種標準呢?實在非常奇怪那我們請衛福部先回去一下,財政部也先回去一下好,謝謝各位單位先回去,我請主記長主記長 |
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總預算終於開始審了,這在破天荒喔最快你覺得刪讀的時候大約什麼時候?上一次的紀錄是六月十五刪讀啦隔一年啦,你覺得判斷一下這我希望是盡快能夠盡快大約嘛,你心裡頭要一個譜嘛如果初估這樣應該至少是要在六月下旬啦大約多少?六月中下旬吧 |
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就可以三讀審完了真的喔我們希望如此真的假喔那六月中下旬是妳現在的期待啦是啦那希望啦但是如果是這樣子的話牽扯到一個問題啊執行率的部分怎麼辦有沒有掌握 |
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會不會你到時候執行率又出問題那明年的這個立法機關立法院又說執行率不加給你砍預算會不會這種狀況因為目前的確會有這樣一個狀況就是說他有一些該花包的他可能是因為他經費沒有結續所以他花包的金額沒有達到他預定的一個額度 |
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那現在如果說要趕的部分,這個部分就是說要盡量去追趕一下執行力很有壓力啊可是如果過度出動執行時間有限的情況底下品質可能就會有憂慮啊這個部分也是我們盡量要跟各單位來請他們來講你還要跟審計部講一下 |
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到時候這樣寫的時候不要一直怪行政部門要寫說因為立法院不審預算引擎到行政院 審計部敢不敢這樣寫審計長是因為立法院的關係他敢 他點頭了你就不用上來了好 接下來再算了說那如果是六月的話那我問你啊 |
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老榮津貼國寶年金八大社福津貼來得及什麼時候送追加預算民眾都非常期待這三筆預算兩筆追溯到1月1號另外是7月1號總共的金額高達355億民眾充滿期待如果按照這種方式那我就再請教一下主計長您預估的這個時程大概什麼時候 |
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我們應該是 因為現在我們已經開始籌編116年度的一個預算那是明年的事情 我現在問你追加預算的部分但是追加預算也大概是跟他差不多一個期間 因為為什麼大概幾月 能不能說個時間點大概八月底八月才能送八月送的話 要等到通過的話 民眾是不是都要等很久大概等到什麼時候 |
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反正本會本院非常的勤勞認真啦 研會啦會一直研下去啦所以我們還是希望說這一次預算的一個115年預算審查能夠跨年預算因為最佳預算它不是那麼快的一個能夠通過對我知道年代關係嘛有一定物價的一個相關的措施而且這還是很順利喔你六月的時候中旬通過三讀喔年度預算喔接下來你才會 |
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通過這個追加預算喔這前面快後面還會跟著快喔但是我也跟委員報告勞農年金和國保年金這些的相關的條例他還沒有過啦喔還沒有過喔對對對你看這樣拖下去就更久了不是嗎相關的條例還沒有過就拖下去更久而且你後面還有軍公教加薪會不會加薪啊 |
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這個人種的那邊它是有這樣的規劃那這個捧份怎麼辦 也是用追加預算那重點是這個追加預算會不會一併處理 |
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一併會處理一併處理嘛如果軍工要加薪的話就跟前面的這個津貼年金一併處理嘛那穩定物價的那個部分呢一千三百億怎麼辦是這個部分呢就是要第一個當然他多少是要看戰爭的一個期限啦那第二個還要看說補貼的一個項目的期間到底是多少所以必須要其實做一個台式可是現在無限期休戰啊對啊 |
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所以現在就是說我們要看行政院整個財市是怎麼財市所以不一定會編?這1300億不一定會編?因為目前就已經有中油的部分包括台電都有一些支出其實是應該要做一些的填補如果有辦追加預算是應該要一次辦或者是說要辦特別預算這必須要看行政院的財市啦 |
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所以說這個要怎麼收處理 對一般就是說我們希望能夠在八月底也就是說三大福利 軍公教加薪一併在八月底盡可能把它提出來 還有穩定物價因為軍公教加薪比較不確認 軍公教加薪這個部分是不是提出來 |
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要看人總這邊我這邊比較沒有辦法幫你但是人總已經在朝向這個方向了我本席再就教你一個問題除了這個預算之外中央發債的部分目前只有4億這個以行公債的部分也就是說我們整個審計部之前提到財政部在推動非營業基金的發行永續發展債券的時候兩年多一件都沒有辦 |
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終於有一件要辦了結果發現多少四億然後我們去看一下台北市、桃園、高雄合計起來多少兩百八十四億那就很奇怪了現在到底是中央比較缺錢還是地方比較缺錢明明財發法過了之後我們就少了四千多億我們完全不緊張耶主席長這是怎麼一回事為什麼整計部這個提出的報告中央不理不睬是不是吃大鍋飯習慣了 |
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大家想說預算編一編就好不用另外去籌組財源不用去找銀行你想一想喔你這個4億一放出來馬上啊就被搶空了為什麼因為我們公債的發行量很低嘛所以你永續發展基金的這個發行很多銀行 很多金融機關或者是郵政儲軍馬上會來搶你應該透過這部分來彌補現在你的預算不足這個不是最好的時機嗎 處長是不是 |
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是,但是這個部分比較偏財政,是不是請財政部好,財政部來,請財政部等一下等一下,還有你還有你,等一下不好意思,我一直以為是你,誤會你來,那個軟刺,來說明一下,為什麼 |
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跟委員報告現在目前中央中央跟地方都一直在推中央目前就只有一筆是4億因為有一筆是高雄的航空站以前出餐的部分大家也做得心不甘情不願 |
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現在這個永續發展基金的這個債券其實發展其實更容易因為很多人搶手永續發展債券基本上你們要用一個什麼樣的誘因跟機制來要求中央相關單位來發行 |
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我們現在是這樣,先請就是說除了中央跟金管會還有櫃買中心合作來尋找案例之外既然你上了台,剛剛人家主計長就說你,你是主政單位您一個月之內,你要提一個什麼辦法來鼓勵中央相關部會來發行這個永續發展債券,來籌措這個資源 |
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以面對現階段預算不足的壓力好不好是 我完全了解用一個月的時間好不好我們信息來推對 你們主政就要去推嘛我們已經在推了好不好 已經在推還不夠嘛你如何刺激他們給他們業績壓力KPI怎麼樣的方法讓他們能夠提早提出來好不好我給你一個月的時間來刺謝謝委員長謝謝最後一個部分那個主席長還有 |
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你看我們要求地方政府有個災害準備金的部分要總預算1%一般而言這個災害準備金本席為什麼這麼care在北部相對比較少動用到災害準備金可是在中南部的部分1%往往都不足往往不足的時候都會跟中央來爭取可是中央呢要求地方1%可是中央變多少 |
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專政府編0.16照說至少要編303.5億缺口足足差了250億 |
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欸 那個 主席長這個災害準備金要多編一點不是說我們要怎麼樣這反倒是備而不用嘛你都要求地方一person為什麼中央不能多一點呢不然我們還要跑去民間募款大家搶食中央的這一步稀少的預算而不夠的情況底下卻責任呢下放到給其他人包括民意代表給一些民間團體這樣不對嘛你這更應該多編一點啦主席長你的看法怎麼樣能不能說明一下 |
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我們已經逐年在增加了啦速度不夠啦 我知道啦 之前21現在50億啦那以前它只有對地方有規範1%對中央是沒有規範對我知道 還會微乎其微嘛現在中央責任越來越大了之前中央不都下去 |
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開指揮手嗎對啊你們現在責任越來越大現在已經全國不分區的災難所有的地方中央政府跟地方政府都要下去嘛好不好好 謝謝郭委員朝向兩邊的方式來處理好不好雖然我們是在砍預算的可是這一條不能審啦謝謝好 謝謝郭國榮委員的舉行接下來是 |