| IVOD_ID |
168761 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168761 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T12:53:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T12:58:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f1576e6a3d48e3afc563812774c6aab6af5c95c54bff74e416c8e9d6e5b85468935ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳冠廷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:53:22 - 12:58:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款經濟部主管部分預算。
(以上二案僅詢答)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請部長跟能源署的代理署長好 請這個工部長跟能源署這個人好部長好 署長好那我想最近我們台灣有一個討論就是跟核能相關的這個議題嘛那不 核能的議題裡面我想這個是有很多各種不同的意見不過其中我們想最好最樂觀的看法好了就假設 |
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核二或者是其他重新啟用的話大概可以貢獻百分之多少的能源大概百分之十最理想的狀況全部加起來是百分之十那這符合我們未來不管是台積電擴產不管是資料庫的這些運轉或者是其他的方式的各種的能源需求嗎在這幾年內當然還有其他的東西 |
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最近聽到很多齁包含一般的民眾在想說奇怪啊這幾年怎麼大家都沒有在談論這個綠色能源怎麼這幾年在再生能源的討論好像似乎政府開始試著是呃躲著閃著閉著那各種的這種呃不管是在野黨的委員的攻擊就是說不管是風光啊什麼都是貪腐啊什麼的好像大家也是覺得說反正是不管我們的事情也就不需要再花很多一直在努力對完全沒有放棄完全沒有停下來也不該放棄嘛對不對絕對不會放棄嘛 |
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因為我看起來說在未來的五年十年之內就算在最好的狀況之下把核能全部重啟那你還是不夠啊那不夠的話你怎麼可以說我只要求這個我沒有辦法不僅僅沒有想說要怎麼節流也沒有想說要怎麼開源那開源其實很簡單就想說你最快速的我們就拿中國當作比方好了中國單一國家貢獻全球的太陽能它是新增的60% |
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中國在風力的這個未來就是新增的這個比例好像25年26年27年的現在比例都是佔大概60%左右 |
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這也是我看到在野黨在稱讚說啊這個中國的這個基建多厲害啊基礎建設多好啊他們的太陽能板有鋪設多多啊他們的風電鋪設多多奇怪怎麼在台灣就變得好像是在攻擊我們自己的那個再生能源的能力我覺得這是一個很無法理解的地方啊因為你不能一方面只要這些風電跟這個太陽能在中國就是好的放在台灣就是必然就是不可以去推動的這是完全不符合這個世界潮流 |
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中國在再生能源的成長說實在話它是對整個它的溫室的這個氣體的這個排放是有所來去檢定另一方面對於石油的依賴也是有可以檢定所以你如果要講中國的好話的話那為什麼你在台灣就不能夠試用怎麼同一個標準不能夠試用在兩個國家呢 |
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我一直都不太懂這個事情所以我在這邊還是要再去呼籲再生能源包含我們台積電都是需要使用再生能源的這是要跟國際競爭裡面或者是在任何的ESH等等的發展上面都是需要的你不可能只偏廢任何一種能源那我再說一下好了這種中小型核電的這種模組 |
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我上次在受到法國衛生人物邀請的時候我有去他們的原子能研究中心去我就詢問說請問這個我們什麼時候才有辦法具備這個能力他說目前還沒有完整的具備這個能力你現在就還沒有完整具備這個能力你怎麼去開發你怎麼去直接來去設置就還沒有完整的具備這個能力的時候就算有這個能力你要設置要花多少時間去還品要在哪裡建又要再重新公民的討論要多久10年還是20年 |
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是不是所以我認為這都是緩不濟急的我們現在要講的是未來五年十年因應台灣經濟發展我們的能源要怎麼樣去處理他們在跟我們講說哇我們要這個呃快速採用這個核能發電啊然後甚至於還有人說啊核四啊什麼的不是不可能的事情時間就要花很久嗎 |
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239.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
259.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
部件立刻要解決的問題你要怎麼去把它彌補住一個是LNG嘛對不對我們就是天然氣發電但是另外一種方式就是我們現在即刻要使用的還是一樣是綠能啊這次那個還是一樣我們要急需再去去退展啊你不可以讓中小企業越來越不想投資因為動不動就是這個也也這個顧此思彼 |
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261.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
中小企業如果不願意來去投資這樣子的再生能源的產業的話那以後怎麼辦我必須要還是很正視這個問題啦不管是地熱也好啦或者是這個太陽能啦這個風力啦等等的我們必須還是要持續政府還是要做民眾的後盾啦不然還有儲能的部分不然每次都要躲閃躲飄只要怕爭議就是怕爭議嘛因為只要我們只要 |
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290.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
314.209 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
來去推展這個時候然後就會被在野黨來去指責然後我們就刪奪票這是不對的在野黨的天職是指責在野黨的天職是監督但是執政黨的天職就是執行把該做的事情做好報告委員我們任何有挑戰我們就一一克服他在政委員是一定要做一定會做好謝謝支持我們支持謝謝部長好謝謝陳冠廷委員 |