| IVOD_ID |
168758 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168758 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T12:35:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T12:42:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f1ad13412d07114a2b10d96ca025fdcb7c5c95c54bff74e41601cee844413abcda5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:35:23 - 12:42:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查(一)委員葛如鈞等20人及(二)委員黃健豪等18人分別擬具「電信管理法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。二、審查(一)委員陳雪生等23人及(二)委員傅崐萁等25人分別擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條條文修正草案」案、(三)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條及第五十八條條文修正草案」案、(四)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「有線廣播電視法第五十八條條文修正草案」案及(五)委員黃健豪等18人擬具「有線廣播電視法第十條及第五十八條條文修正草案」案。三、審查(一)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「廣播電視法第五條之一及第四十四條之二條文修正草案」案及(二)委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「廣播電視法第四十四條之二條文修正草案」案。四、處理114年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管預算凍結案計13案。【開會事由一至三僅進行詢答；開會事由二第(五)案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩請NCC代理主委好 我們請陳代理主委葉委員好代理主委我是想要來瞭解一下NCC沒委員會怎樣剛剛你有提到沒有委員所以導致於很多家電視台或媒體沒辦法換照對不對是還有一些董事沒有辦法換人嗎對不對對還有一些相關那個立法執法也好 法律也好都沒辦法推出NCC的版本 |
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沒辦法推出NC版本因為你剛剛提到的像換照換照我是覺得還好啦沒換照也不會怎麼樣反正這些媒體假設他有違法的話比如說播出一些法律不允許的那你就罰他嘛對不對本席其實主張根本不用換照啦裁罰部分如果動不動就要換照的話 |
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那就會出現你們之前隨便把一些批評政府的電台關掉的狀況沒換照還好啦反正他有違法你就罰他透過法律來約束然後董建市是屬於比較屬於公司治理有沒有一些是跟民生比較有關的 |
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有關就比方說有線電視的頻道頻道的上下架變更因為車子要營運計畫營運計畫也是委員會保留事項也需要由委員會組成才能處理那代理主我跟您請教一下因為我記得那個時候有在前一兩年前面一位主委被問到說如果NCC委員沒過班會怎樣他是講說iPhone 15沒辦法上市 |
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但現在iPhone15不但上市了iPhone17都上市了各位報告那是七個委員時代最後要他們四個委員要畢業前就是要結束任期前把訂定一個授權的執法讓這個比較省酌空間比較小的部分不是組織法九條二項六款裡頭的這個經營權的登上邊跟處分的部分給他授權來處理所以換句話說就是有一些是技術性的問題 |
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他不是說非怎麼樣啦就是可以解決的嘛但是那時候他為了恐嚇大家就說十五沒辦法上市可是後來還是上市啦所以其實是有辦法解決啦可是他不去講那個辦法但他就跟你講說沒辦法上市所以國人會覺得NCC為什麼都在亂講話他明明就上市啦他講話的當下納稅執法授權辦法所以他有一些作為是可以讓他上市他不去講那個作為他就直接說無法上市結果後來上市就打臉NCC嘛 |
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181.178 |
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所以我覺得這也就是NCC為什麼你去看很多民調大家對NCC的滿意度都很低嘛就是很多類似的原因累積起來的所以身為代理主委我覺得你們也有責任要捍衛你們自己機關的榮譽感就是不要讓一般民眾覺得說NCC好像有跟沒有好像沒什麼差別那我現在想要跟你請教現在委員的狀況有三種第一種是全部都有 滿了 |
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然後有過半的這個當然就是什麼都可以運作嘛第二種情況是大概就像你們現在這樣只有三個沒過半所以有些事情你剛剛有提到是沒辦法做第三種最慘的情況很可能會發生因為包括您在內 |
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212.37 |
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好像任期也到七月就到期了嘛對 我們目前剩下的三位任期全部到今年七月全部到期然後行政院長卓榮泰院長到現在還是吊兒噹噹的我看有其他委員問他說NC委員要不要提他說我努力 |
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233.114 |
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他說我努力他不是說我確定可以他說我努力所以到時候提不出來他就說我努力不夠或是我努力也辦不到就是他連一個決心都沒有所以很有可能出現一個狀況是七月以後NC沒委員那請教一下七月以後NC沒委員和現在有三位委員差別在哪裡 |
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差別在剛剛委員所提到的這個當初有授權的部分那些很多很多比較相對於省酌空間比較小的一些裁判案都不能處理像是進口器材、設明器材、終端設備那些進口包括iPhone等等之類的就是完全沒有委員的情況連剛剛講的那些比較吐息吐民眾的部分大概都都沒辦法處理就會痛了所以你看你看我們這個你有跟卓榮泰院長講這件事嗎 |
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292.159 |
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你有跟他講嗎他有沒有像我剛剛問你一樣問過你說有三位委員跟沒有委員的差別他有問過你這件事嗎任何本人是沒有沒有你看他不在乎啊如果他在乎就會問了啊無論怎麼樣起碼提三個過來嘛對不對 你提了三個起碼可以維持現在的運作啊然後連三個都沒有你如果過三個或過一個是不是就跟都沒有不一樣 |
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304.387 |
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0跟0.1還是有差別有差別嘛對不對所以他連1個都不提提1個還是有差也都不提我覺得等一下回去之後你是不是跟行政院講一下 |
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323.751 |
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就是說現在院長感覺你吊啷噹的但是七個有七個的運作方式三個有三個運作方式但都沒有的話連你剛剛講什麼無線攝頻這些都沒有辦法處理了嘛沒錯嘛是這影響很大是不是請他最起碼提個提一部分出來好不好你跟他講你這個是嚴重性 |
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347.177 |
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你跟他講一下這個嚴重性啊 戴主委好不好 等一下結束之後就跟他講一下好 我盡可能好 然後再來問一下因為在去年NCC那時候有引發一個750之亂嘛那針對一些就是二類的射頻器材都說要繳750塊的規費那四月份發生的事然後後來因為那個規定 |
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366.349 |
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那個委員會說要求改成核備改成審查所以就給他推翻了可是按照NCC的規法規劃其實你們去年四月的時候你們是想要停政一年而已啦換句話說停政一年到現在一年已經過了你們還有可能會做出這樣的事嗎 |
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絕對不會跟委員報告其實那個執法修因為大院這邊有做一些處理所以原來我們修的那個已經失效了就等於說回到前一版就是沒有修的情況所以也不會再提了因為我看你們去年是說停政一年感覺上好像一年後你們還想要再越越遇事所以現在就是完全都不會做這個事回到前一版 |
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403.524 |
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OK 那剛剛我跟你講那個記者要跟院長講就是說起碼要三個嘛或兩個 一個也好 你不能一個都沒有你要跟他講 這個很重要有機會的話我會跟您會有機會 你是歌員耶謝謝 |