| IVOD_ID |
168748 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168748 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T12:13:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T12:19:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f1c07f35c07e5d29d763812774c6aab6af5c95c54bff74e4160c48c7cb505eef785ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:13:21 - 12:19:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款經濟部主管部分預算。
(以上二案僅詢答)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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主席好 麻煩請部長 經濟部長 謝謝請工部長 |
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我看到中國大陸說要給我們惠台十大措施結果經濟部馬上就發文了那標題叫做台灣走自己的路無需回頭依附中國很強硬啊我是覺得都有市場開發啦經濟部有點反應過度了為什麼我這樣講第一個人家是說市場開放 |
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對台灣做生意的人來講中小企業或什麼多一個市場我多一個地方可以賣東西過去這個沒有說什麼回頭依附的問題你們現在經濟部或農委會農業部不是都一直在講說我們要開放多元市場嗎很好啊繼續做啊但多一個市場怎麼又講說是依附這我覺得有一點因為他講說有條件之下怎麼樣怎麼樣但是有條件就 |
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有條件是另外一件事情我要講就是說如果他願意開放市場然後我們評估之後覺得OK的那當然可以去啊但是馬上扣個帽子說因為他開放所以我們就是回去依附我覺得經濟部這樣講中小企業聽了也不高興啊 |
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我們沒有要依附只是多一個市場機會那我看到政府每次都講說那個叫養套殺他把你養起來到時候要殺你不是啦這個做生意都有風險你們現在政府一直鼓勵企業到美國去投資沒有風險嗎 |
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包委員就是說所以我們為什麼比較強調如果政府對政府不管有沒有透過白手套總是有一個那政府就趕快對政府啊對我們是希望這樣子政府就趕快對政府那政府不對政府然後民間的努力政府又翹著二郎腿旁邊說不要不要不要那政府就沒有存在沒有功能了嘛單方面的承諾他可能隨時會改變也造成七五分布朗跟你請教因為 |
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我看到商總啊他們帶領很多產業出來中小企業啊做糕餅的啊當然有的跟進一步可能比較有關係啦比如說觀光業觀光業跟我們不是無關的我知道我知道無關農業也無關啦但是糕餅啊中小企業其實他們是還蠻有趣的那 |
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我認為經濟部應該做的角色是他們去你幫他評估風險你剛剛講可能的風險但是做生意一定都會有風險我剛剛講去美國也有風險台積電投資那麼多過去當初拜登講說要給他補助川普一上任就說考慮把補助取消 |
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都是風險啦不能把風險講成養套殺啦所以這種東西盡量不要經濟的東西我覺得盡量不要講意識形態這個是我給經濟部的提醒因為我看到經濟部馬上就哇 那個政治口號就出來了 |
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那然後還有商總說他有接到壓力啊那經濟部有給他商總壓力嗎我沒有跟他聯絡你沒有那經濟部其他的我們是有同仁去跟那個糕餅公會問他說就是說 |
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因為他就是說什麼有條件之下什麼開放什麼中小什麼市場那個意思到底是什麼那我們高屏公會跟我們回答是說喔他們要表達的是說因為過去他們我們出口到他們那邊的時候因為他的那個凱關的行政程序非常忙因為高屏他是有期限的如果那個期限太長的話就會壞掉他們希望說這個可不可以簡化那基本上這個跟所謂的今年的會談就沒有什麼關係嗎 |
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講話也很好啊所以這個訴求我們同意啊我們也支持啊不是我說高品工會的訴求就是簡化流程那個部分所以你們不是給他壓力你們是關心一下說現在什麼狀況然後他跟你說可以簡化你就說好那來幫忙 |
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對 我可以幫忙我覺得這就不錯啊這就站在業者角度嘛就盡量所以商總生氣商總還嗆聲說他也有選票我覺得不用這樣子啦我覺得不用這樣我覺得政府盡量幫忙不要意識形態然後第二個齁我昨天看到有那個反核團體去跟總統見面嘛然後還是反核啊然後有人轉述說總統在勸他們說哎呀現在狀況不一樣了啦電力供應不如預期啦 |
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AI產業需求那第一步有評估嗎?現在是沒有辦法達到之前的電力供應的目標了嗎?就是說我們滾動式的嘛2032年之前2032年、2034年之前我們都已經評估好至少在這一段時間裡面電力的供應是沒有問題的電力供應沒問題但是它有沒有達到你的預期?有沒有? |
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這沒有問題啊我們有達到就是因為我們會估算就是說包括AI算力的需求等等一些需求所以你最新的這樣好不好你最新的那個預計譬如說我們的需電量是多少你把那所有的產業的發展全部算進來你就預期到2032嗎2034 對需要我們大概我們需要多少電然後我們可以發多少電對然後我們發電的裝置容量各個是多少對對對 |
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你提供給我一份資料可以可以那因為總統講說用電供電不如預期他是這樣子講所以有重新那個重啟的需求是總統講的但是部長講說目前為止是沒有至少到2032是沒有那你資料給我我來看一下好不好謝謝好謝謝 |