| IVOD_ID |
168690 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168690 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T10:06:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T10:15:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f1ff2e3d255519d4b763812774c6aab6afdfea45507174d079a780272794d7ccdd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:06:04 - 10:15:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款經濟部主管部分預算。
(以上二案僅詢答)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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接下來有請鄭天才委員質詢好主席有請部長有請工部長經濟部的會計處處長也上來會計處處長中原早安部長好 |
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今天這個審查預算 |
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我們看這個今天經濟部的報告裡面特別提到稅出預算編列情形總共編列了這個1480.28億然後較上年度增加350.02億請問一下這個會計處的處長去年呢去年度經濟部主管的預算執行數是多少 |
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執行率就是執行數就是乘以98.57執行數也可以換算一下好沒關係再順便補充執行數這個好我們來看預算法第54條規定很清楚這個支出的部分瓜福二 |
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上年度執行數何時動之 |
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也就是說這個經濟部一百一十四年度的執行數雖然我們在一百一十五年度的總預算還沒有通過但是上年度的執行數可以動之大概一千億左右吧所以很多所以現在才四月嘛所以應該應該很充裕然後呢這個履行其他法定義務之收支這個一樣 |
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最重要的大家一直很關心的新興資本支出及新增計劃經立法院同意者不再此限所以這個會計處處長未來以後通常一月完成預算整查通常立法院一月超過一月的時候就要提醒部長新興資本支出及新增計劃 |
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航報行政院轉立法院同意就不會有問題就如同因為你們沒有報所以國民黨團跟民眾黨團在今年的1月16號比你們還早比省預算時間還早1月16號就提出新興資本這個需要先行同意經濟部主管的 |
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總共有四項,總共134.75億,這已經立法院同意,上月初的時候同意動之。請問一下部長,這個行政院發文了嗎? |
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昨天發文 昨天發文 主計總署很早就發文行政院主計總署很早就發文擺在院長的桌上很久啊如果是我當部長我就會拜託那個院長趕快批啊 趕快批啊因為很多委員都說尤其是民進黨的立委都說這個很重要很重要所以這個部分以後要多多溝通協調了好這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
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經濟部的一般性補助款預算請問一下會計處處長這個部長比較不會知道這個一般性補助款114年度跟115年度有沒有什麼差別 |
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報告委員我先補充一下剛才委員垂詢的數字我們去年執行的數字大概是1,120億那委員提到的一般性補助款大概我們是跟去年的預算看起來去年是編在經濟部整個放在經濟部那今年把所有對地方的補助款單獨拉到一般性補助款所以大概很多都是延續性的計畫好沒有什麼變動嗎大部分都延續性了好謝謝好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
284.537 |
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这个中央对直辖市及县市政府补助办法,这个也请经济水利署署长也上来,这个办法定得很清楚,对于这个第三条的第一项的第一款, |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
301.892 |
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中央各機關依財力及次給不同補助比例且最高補助比例不得超過90%但有下一個情形是一則不在此限有三個部分我今天要特別談的原住民族重要建設計畫可以超過90%按照這個條文的是可以超過90%好在今年1月21號召開協調會針對台東縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
332.469 |
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的無自來水地區供水改善企劃這個相關的沿管還有這個系統這簡易自來水系統營運的補助這個補助啊這個部長那個你們減少了對台東縣的補助是零喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
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因為主要是我先說明一下自來水鹽管那個是水公司他付的錢所以是民眾地方政府不用付那另外就是其他的部分包括檢疫自來水或等等因為台東台東縣他就是已經被評為他這個 |
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375.294 |
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財政是第一級是最好的狀況因為他原來從這個統籌分配款從60億變成281億部長我都了解理由啦你們的理由我都了解但是我要說明的是說剛才條文訂得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
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援助民族重要建設計畫可以超過90%何況以前也沒有那麼高所以我們只是希望你們維持我們有跟行政院做一些討論如果真的有必要因為您剛才提到那個第三項可以簽給行政院專簽那我們會用這個方式不用專簽你看一下行政院主計總署答覆本席的公文針對我1月21號的公文的會議記錄答覆了 |
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是否屬補助辦法第三條但屬鎖定原住民族重要建設企劃能由各主管機關自行認定所以經濟部可以來認定而且他確實是為什麼呢在去年呢你們都把它列為原住民族建設經費列為原住民族建設經費所以可以是符合那個辦法的第三條而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
453.234 |
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480.54 |
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台東縣我們整個台灣 全台灣包括金門 馬祖 離島供水普及率90%以上的有19個直轄市縣市19個未達90%者有5個縣市其中台東縣只有83.9%所以這個部分更是需要列為 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
483.197 |
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維持我們不講說90%以上至於起碼維持去年以前的補助的比例部長可以趕快核定嗎主席總書雖然講說可以我們調整但是還是要送到他那邊去就趕快簽請經濟部隨理署趕快簽這個非常非常的重要 |
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511.516 |
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最後經濟委員會在113年曾經去會刊到台東這是一個已經很久了的老案子而且是有提防 已經有提防在題內 |
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所以這個部分你們當初說這個富岡南段1052地號這是我們原住民祖先使用的土地就是因為你們把它列為核酸氣液內所以一直沒有辦法取得原住民保留地然後這個事實上它是在 |
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553.769 |
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和有堤防啊 這幾十年的堤防在那邊呢好 署長趕快處理報告委員 這個案件城門委員的幫忙 幫忙很多我們現在那個治理計畫已經檢討完成那正在做最後的河川區限劃出去的一個程序那預期七月份就可以把這個土地劃出去就會變成不適合河川地 沒有問題謝謝委員的指導好 加油加油 好 謝謝好 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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主席，有請部長。 |
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主席 |
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有請龔部長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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經濟部會計處處長也上來。 |
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主席 |
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請會計處處長。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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鄭委員早安。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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部長好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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今天是審查預算，我們看今天經濟部報告裡特別提到歲出預算編列情形，總共編列了……1,480億。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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1,480.28億，較上年度增加354.02億。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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請問一下會計處處長，去年度經濟部主管的預算執行數是多少？ |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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執行率就是…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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是執行數。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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乘以98.57，就是把…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
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執行數。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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也給您換算一下…… |
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0.714 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:19.744000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:21.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
沒關係！ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:21.605000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:23.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
再用書面補充執行數。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:25.986000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:39.602000+08:00 |
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我們來看預算法第五十四條，有關支出的部分規定得很清楚，「(二)……上年度執行數，覈實動支。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:41.574000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:55.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
」也就是經濟部114年度的執行數，雖然115年度總預算還沒有通過，但是上年度的執行數可以動支。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:56.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:58.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
大概一千億左右吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-22T10:07:58.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-22T10:07:59.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
所以很多。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-22T10:08:00.987000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-22T10:08:05.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
現在才4月，應該很充裕。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-22T10:08:06.890000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-22T10:08:21.884000+08:00 |
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接續「三、履行其他法定義務收支」，這也一樣，最重要的是大家一直很關心的新興資本支出及新增計畫，經立法院同意者不在此限。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-22T10:08:23.185000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-22T10:08:47.766000+08:00 |
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而通常立法院1月會完成預算審查，所以請會計處處長以後，在超過1月的時候就要提醒部長，新興資本支出及新增計畫函報行政院轉立法院同意，就不會有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.723 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-22T10:08:47.766000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:07.741000+08:00 |
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就如同因為你們沒有報，所以國民黨團跟民眾黨團在今年1月16日，比你們還早、比審預算的時間還早，就提出同意這些新興資本支出及新增計畫先行動支。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-22T10:09:10.022000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:24.377000+08:00 |
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經濟部主管的有四項總共134.75億，這已經在3月初經過立法院同意動支。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-22T10:09:25.678000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:29.462000+08:00 |
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請問部長，行政院發文了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-22T10:09:31.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:31.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
昨天發文了。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-22T10:09:32.002000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:32.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
好，昨天發文了。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-22T10:09:35.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-22T10:09:56.608000+08:00 |
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行政院主計總處很早就發文，擺在院長的桌上很久，如果是我當部長，我就會拜託院長趕快批示，因為很多委員都說、尤其是民進黨立委都說這很重要、很重要，所以這個部分以後要多多溝通協調。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:01.674000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-22T10:10:17.413000+08:00 |
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關於經濟部一般性補助款預算，請問一下會計處處長，這個部分部長比較不會知道，一般性補助款在114年度跟115年度有沒有什麼差別？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王處長雅玲 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:19.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-22T10:10:25.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
報告委員，我先補充一下剛才委員垂詢的數字，我們去年執行的數字大概是1,120億元。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
王處長雅玲 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:25.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-22T10:10:42.337000+08:00 |
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委員提到的一般性補助款，以去年的預算來看，去年是整個編在經濟部，而今年把所有對地方的補助款單獨拉到一般性補助款，很多大概都是延續性的計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:42.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-22T10:10:46.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
好，沒有什麼變動嘛，大部分都是延續性的，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:49.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-22T10:10:56.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
關於中央對直轄市及縣（市）政府補助辦法的部分，請經濟部水利署署長也上來。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-22T10:10:59.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-22T10:11:13.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
這個辦法訂得很清楚，對於第三條第一款「中央各機關應依財力級次給予不同補助比率，且最高補助比率不得超過百分之九十。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.673 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-22T10:11:13.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-22T10:11:24.757000+08:00 |
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但有下列情形之一者，不在此限」，其中有三個部分，我今天要特別談的「原住民族重要建設計畫」，按照這個條文，是可以超過90%。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-22T10:11:24.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-22T10:11:59.299000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
本席在今年1月21日召開協調會，針對臺東縣無自來水地區供水改善計畫相關的延管，還有簡易自來水系統營運的補助，部長，你們減少了對臺東縣的補助，是零喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.908 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-22T10:12:02.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-22T10:12:26.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
我先說明一下，自來水延管是水公司付的錢，地方政府不用付，另外其他的部分包括簡易自來水等等，因為臺東縣已經被評為財力級次第一級，是最好的狀況，統籌分配款從原來60億元變成280億元…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-22T10:12:26.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-22T10:12:46.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
部長，你們的理由我都了解，但是我要說明的是剛才條文訂得很清楚，原住民族重要建設計畫可以超過90%，何況以前也沒有那麼高，所以我們只是希望你們維持…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-22T10:12:46.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-22T10:12:56.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
有，我們有跟行政院討論，如果真的有必要，我們要……因為您剛才提到的第三項，可以專簽給行政院，那我們會用這個方式…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-22T10:12:56.849000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-22T10:13:35.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
不用專簽，你看一下行政院主計總處答復本席的公文，針對1月21日的會議紀錄，答復了「是否屬補助辦法第三條但書所定原住民族重要建設計畫，仍由各主管機關自行認定」，所以經濟部可以來認定，而且在去年你們確實都把它列為原住民族建設經費，所以是符合辦法第三條。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-22T10:13:40.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-22T10:14:19.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
另外，全臺灣包括金門、馬祖等離島，供水普及率90%以上的直轄市、縣（市）有19個，未達90%的有5個縣（市），其中臺東縣只有83.9%，所以這個部分更是需要列為……我們不講90%以上，不過起碼維持去年以前的補助比例，部長可以趕快核定嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.922 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-22T10:14:19.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-22T10:14:24.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
報告委員，主計總處雖然講說可以由我們調整，但是還是要送到他那邊去。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-22T10:14:24.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-22T10:14:27.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
好，那就趕快簽，請經濟部水利署趕快簽，這個非常、非常地重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-22T10:14:38.400000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-22T10:15:22.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
經濟委員會在113年曾經到臺東會勘，這是一個已經很久的老案子，而且是已經有堤防在堤內，這個部分你們當初說富岡南段1052地號……這是我們原住民祖先使用的土地，就是因為你們把它列為河川區域內，所以一直沒有辦法取得原住民保留地，然後事實上這個部分有幾十年的堤防在那邊，署長，趕快處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-22T10:15:23.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-22T10:15:41.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
報告委員，這個案件承蒙委員幫忙很多，現在治理計畫已經檢討完成，正在做最後的河川區域線劃出去的程序，預期7月就可以把這個土地劃出去，變成非河川地，目前沒有問題，謝謝委員的指導。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.91 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-22T10:15:41.591000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-22T10:15:43.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
好，加油、加油，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-22T10:15:43.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-22T10:15:46.834857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
謝謝鄭天財委員，謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-22T10:15:47.134857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-22T10:15:50.563429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
接下來有請謝衣鳯委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |