| IVOD_ID |
168647 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168647 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-21T10:35:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-21T10:51:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:35:17 - 10:51:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「針對開放印度移工來台，國人深感憂心，要求行政院院長率相關部會首長向立法院提出『開放印度移工來台對我國整體勞工政策與社會治安的衝擊及相關配套（含強化國與國直聘制度及失聯移工強制遣返機制）防治作為』專案報告，並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等4案。（4月17日）二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。（4月17日）三、邀請行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長列席報告「115年度中央政府總預算案」編製經過並備質詢（含志願役軍人加薪及警消人員退休金等預算編製處理情形併予報告）。（4月21日）四、4月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席那是不是我們先請我們行政院卓院長卓院長,可以請參議員好 |
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院長那總預算已經遲延了今天是236天那在今天的詢答結束後那才有交付審查的一個機會那也基於這樣總預算的一個延宕我們知道至少有2992億的一個新興計畫 |
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沒有辦法被執行新計畫跟新增預算那這樣的一個預算到現在已經四月了一直到未來可能完成三讀之後這些才能被執行可能要拖到七月所以今年就過了一半所以我要求我們各部會首長在立法院完全審查之後 |
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加快腳步用勤能補托啦把這個托育的時間給他交付審查後就取得快一點啦對 效率提高那我想每個委員會我們在委員會也都會拜託召委可以拜就拜用最快的速度 |
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趕快先找出來啦因為很多建設真的就因此而延宕了我說嘉義我們嘉義這裡我們六坎的大橋我們大的大橋7.5億那我也不一定說幾億台但是也是說卡地總預算包括我們現在說嘉義包括我們幾個比較市中心的地方在中保民窮破住我們這裡也都需要運動中心那平衡一些地方的一個運動的一個需求 |
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這也是在體育部也是一樣總預算卡的沒有辦法爭取那最重要的是治水預算包括水上的南進大排新港跟六角的六角的落卡白水那這一些預算也需要很多也沒有辦法被執行所以這一些的延宕是在是造成我們在地方的一些建設上在今年度就浪費了大半年所以你現在預算如果到了後 |
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也要結束了,要拖延期,拖延期可能還要辦預算保留事實上以後面的整個行政流程來說,那拖延期是很嚴重所以我們還是希望說,立法院該審預算我們要處理,我們就快處理,這樣好不好 |
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目前很急迫的是汛期快到五月的汛期快到很多治水的工程我們除了原來可以用的之外有些在必須要通過預算完整的審查之後但是我已經要求各部會尤其是經濟部水利署提前預作計畫那預算一旦通過就能夠馬上接軌下去執行就是後續的執行也是要趕快好那再下一個我們請教育部也上來 |
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下一個我想跟副院長來分享一個,是在講的台灣這個台語,台語的這個文化我現在接觸到的一些地方,那些孩子都對台語陌生,這件事我感覺比較沒差 |
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是在台語是全世界最國際化最好聽的一個語言我們台語我們講台語我們要很有信心的在台語我們就說出來所以我最近我看一個趣我看很感動的那我知道這個作者這個趣的創辦人叫溫若喬那我們賴清德總統也曾經把請到總統府我就看他那個影片他去講台語的國際化來我放給大家聽我們一定聽了會覺得很感動來我們放一下 |
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Narasu Naga NarasudagaTaka Moshinto Taka MoshinAsa Furu AsakuruKimochi Tsubin Gyan Kimo Tsuburin Gyan |
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我有看過韓語的 說真的 |
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所以這就是說 台語有時候我們過去我們台灣全世界沒有把語言學起來 變成台語所以這就是說 過去 |
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你知道將近一百年前有一部用日語寫成的台語詞典記錄了許多當時台灣人獨特的美麗詞彙嗎?這本詞典叫做台語大詞典這個文字系統將日語裡的片假名改造為適合台語的版本並且透過特別創造的符號來標記台語的聲調甚至連藥物、植物、礦物、動物等專有名詞也都記錄在內指的是從雲或樹木的縫隙灑落地面的陽光 |
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以前的台湾人会用刺激灰暗来形容这样的景色或者像是 疑灰这个词指的是渔泉游动的时候在水面所泛出的涟漪这样的词汇是在全世界的语言当中都很少见的甚至还有 见灰 这个词用来形容蜡烛点燃后焦洁的竹心如花一般散开的模样 |
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你看這就是台語 綠灰 綠灰 還有那個酒灰這樣都是很漂亮的語言所以台語說起來是一個很漂亮的一個語言這個語言我希望說我們院長跟部長我剛剛質詢我知道說因為這段時間我就一直去找現在我們的台語在教材當然說每一個年紀都要有教材這個教材也是公園做得很好 |
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但是我就覺得社會要提供台語教育的這件事力道少了一些既然台語我看溫柳橋他會這樣去分享台語的美那個分享都很多我會覺得我們國家也要用大一點的力道讓大家知道台語就是這麼漂亮的一個語言我們應該要大家都來講台語這樣講對不對來 |
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感謝委員關心我們台語的推薦其實我們從去年開始全國22個縣企業到局長都有成立我們由基院開始就是因應這個不同這個社區的族群結構開始用加台語或是加客語或是原住民語這我們有在做到今年的我們的過年我們中生教育師也還另外開發一套APP就是說 |
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就是這樣就對了創造讓大家覺得說台語 |
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吃舒服的一個環境我認為這個事情我們有必要每一個這麼好的一個議員還有這麼國際化的一個議員要讓他我們這樣一代一代傳下去這樣好嗎是啊 現在國家議員發展法都會說我們國家也有客家化也有這些原住民的胃 大家都愛但是我就覺得說 |
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這個台語真的是很漂亮啦也許我對其他的客家話那些我不夠了解但是我真的這陣時間 我覺得台語這麼好的一個語言沒花陽光大 有夠沒菜 有夠爽啦這個語言要保留 留團 或者說通用就是語言以外 要有文字啦我們現在也漸漸 就是羅馬拼音以外也有漸漸台語的文字 大家在研究我也看過幾篇文章 從台語寫出來 |
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剛才我看 比較不像慣史 越看你會覺得裡面可以種台語的氣味新來的思維 覺得很爽快所以文字的研究 我想我們要加強這個所以我希望我們應該要用更多資源 針對這裡做台語的藝人的研究 讓台語發揚光大要如何宣傳這件事情 我們都用更多資源來重視這件事情教育部 文化部都要導入這個行為保存我們的固有的意願 |
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我現在甩來請交通部長來 教育部長可以先來 院長 院長我真的覺得你這兩天來很辛苦 有夠辛苦沒有 大家都辛苦你應該是說 做行政議長休息以來 我覺得你真的是最辛苦的面對國民黨 民眾黨這樣惡搞 |
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毀憲亂政每一個法律他們都沒有用立法權完全要凌駕行政院編列預算直接就是都在下達指令要怎麼編才會有今天總預算的這樣一個僵局所以我覺得現在又因為他們把大法官又卡住所以很多事情沒有辦法現在還你公道但是你現在說著 |
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你可以說是把整個我們現在看到的中華民國憲法可以用的行政自我救濟你都把它發揮到 我覺得立訴這個會獻你一個功德 這個我很有信心民主是很不簡單的事情 而且對我來說 我很幸運的是我有很多前輩他們所走過的路 我們都可以好好去學習我也希望說 這個釣魚機桿 |
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既然今天可以好的開始,我們為好的發展來設一個最好的結構,更加這個事情總有損也好,那個軍國防的特別有損也好,或是我們的裁劃法,都可以在新的環境所以國家一定要向前走啦,雖然我們台灣不能因為朝野、在野黨、不理性的杯葛,才讓國家停頓所以院長我是覺得說 |
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律師會贏你一個功德,不是他中事實上我感覺,院長你現在需要一個你的作用的歷史定位這個作用的歷史定位就是你要有一項屬於你的建設要有人說,卓榮泰行政院長,就要一項建設我想要讓院長來推...來...來...來建議一件啦院長,實在我們可以來上台鐵的權限高價化啦 |
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台鐵全線高架因為你也知道台鐵現在每一段都在爭取高架我們水上嘉義的水上在爭取 貫庭也在爭取他的大林的高架化因為他也說未來如果雲林東南高架你不可以民雄高架到大陸下來到東南北去變雲霄飛車這都說得有道理可是事實上 |
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高鐵是需要被全線高架化為什麼因為你不是要做全線高架而已如果我們做了全線高架我們應該要進一步的把台鐵全部變成1435的標準軌 |
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因為我們知道現在台湯和我們阿里山的生鐵是五分的車現在台鐵是七分的車只有現在叫做戈鐵,它還是叫做標準軌日本都用標準軌,日本現在很少會用七分的車如果我們把高鐵高架起來,稍微做得比較快,用大軌包小軌 |
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就是標準軌裡面去包氣氛車所以氣氛車現在台鐵的車可以走比較靠近的標準軌的車也可以走一樣在那條軌道大軌、包小軌可以同時走的總控車你可以未來創造類似日本更多的觀光列車它的速度可以比現在台鐵的速度還要快 |
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你就這樣起來 把他高架起來 把他擴寬雖然整個台鐵以後會變得非常的強大大家也會知道說 這個是卓榮泰行政院長在任內因為國家每年的稅收成長我們只要一年 可能我們的十年計畫都要把他全線高架 一年用一千億這樣就做不起來一定 這我給你一個建議 我就來 這樣來實施嘛感謝委員 如果我可以選定 |
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不然這裡應該是都會區地下化跨縣區的高架化另外台北市來說地下化以後路面都很通院長我承認啦在都會是需要地下化都會地下化跨區的高架化如果可以像這樣說 |
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工程來進行,那不是個人什麼定位,那是整個國家大大的進步所以我是覺得,院長你讓我來啟動這件事不然你現在一直來倒規規這件事真的會讓大家都非常的有感,而且以後看到我們的台鐵像那種,日本有那種可以晚上在那裡過夜,那種旅遊型的列車 |
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鐵道旅遊是一個很高端的旅遊鐵道旅遊是非常的讓人家是喜歡的你看現在明日號也成功藍皮解憂也成功現在來我們大拿都有一個三藍號都成功了現在那個高端部會推一個台鐵 |
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整個環島四個九十分鐘台北到郭榮九十分鐘郭榮台東到台東九十分鐘台東到花蓮花蓮到台北四個九十分鐘這也是個環島目前如果這個路線都完整的話我們也可以發展另外一個廣東的事業這三條很好真的這三條很好不然就是差別你攔著全線高架他要跑的時候都沒有後顧之憂他就一定會趕跑我是覺得這個真的可以去思考好不好院長 |
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謝謝,我想跟高東坡請他介紹一下,現在還有什麼路段可以先來跟他講?對啦,這真的要這樣整個,就是我們本市整棟,一棟一棟,每棟都有,就直接做下去,這樣好不好?好,再來,來,院長請回,我請這個農業部長來,最好一分鐘,我要吹一下香氣,這個 |
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院長 事實上我們嘉義的產業園區事實上都有在建設可是我們現在知道在距離現在嘉科最近的有一個新港現在叫做新港農場這個農場內事實上也有產業園區的強烈必要因為它就在高鐵旁邊而且鄰近嘉義科學園區最大的優勢就是它那邊又是台塑整個 |
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台塑中原化工業區然後科學園區中抓這塊這塊事實上就是把它做成農業科技園區而且賴清德總統已經多次有來這裡有做這樣的承諾所以我希望議長我們新港的這個產業園區是不是要是你的臨來今天這間來合併這樣好不好我先跟委員報告委員也一時關心我們這個家業本身的這個建立一個農業科技園區嘛那在上面就是 |
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好謝謝謝謝蔡委員好謝謝蔡委員 謝謝 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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我先請行政院卓院長。 |
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主席 |
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請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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蔡委員好。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:35:49.990000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:10.612000+08:00 |
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院長，總預算遲延到今天已經236天，在今天的詢答結束後，才有交付審查的機會，也基於總預算這樣的延宕，我們知道至少有2,992億的新興計畫沒有辦法被執行。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:10.612000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:11.612000+08:00 |
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包括新興跟新增預算。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:11.233000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:14.396000+08:00 |
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對，包括新興計畫跟新增預算。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:16.518000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:26.589000+08:00 |
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現在已經4月了，一直到未來完成三讀之後，這些才能被執行，可能要拖到7月，屆時今年就過了超過一半。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:27.931000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:36.630000+08:00 |
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我要求各部會首長在立法院完成審查之後加快腳步，「勤」能補「拖」，把這個拖延的時間彌補回來。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:37.210000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:39.192000+08:00 |
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交付審查後就加快腳步，該溝通的溝通。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:40.273000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:40.453000+08:00 |
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對，提高效率！ |
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0.6 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:42.935000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:52.661000+08:00 |
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我們在各委員會也都會拜託召委，可以排審就趕快排，用最快的速度趕快把它審查完，因為很多建設真的因而延宕。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:36:53.261000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:22.291000+08:00 |
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我舉例嘉義六腳灣內大橋需要7.5億，我跟部長說了好幾次，還是卡在總預算，包括現在嘉義幾個比較市中心的地方，中埔、民雄、朴子也都需要運動中心，平衡地方的運動需求，這在運動部也是一樣，因為總預算卡著，沒有辦法爭取。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:23.291000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:41.727000+08:00 |
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最重要的是治水預算，包括水上的南靖大排、新港跟六腳的排水改善及新建，這一些也需要很多預算，也沒有辦法被執行，這一些延宕實在是造成地方建設在今年度就浪費了大半年。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:42.968000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:50.625000+08:00 |
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預算如果到了，年度也要結束了，就要年底了，年底可能還要辦預算保留。 |
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0.724 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:37:50.825000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:00.268000+08:00 |
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事實上，以後面整個行政流程來說，被拖到是很嚴重的，所以我們還是希望立法院該審預算，該處理就趕快處理，好不好？ |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:03.129000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:22.320000+08:00 |
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目前很急迫的是5月的汛期快到，很多治水工程除了原來可以用的之外，有些還必須通過預算完整的審查，但是我已經要求各部會，尤其是經濟部水利署提前預做計畫，預算一旦通過，就能夠馬上接軌下去執行。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:23.441000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:24.221000+08:00 |
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後續的執行也是要加緊。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:27.103000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:44.691000+08:00 |
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請教育部也上來，我想跟院長分享一下，說實在的，有關臺灣的臺語文化，我現在接觸到一些地方的孩子對臺語都很陌生，我覺得這件事有點可惜。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:47.472000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:57.218000+08:00 |
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臺語是全世界最國際化、最好聽的語言，我們應該要很有信心地把臺語說出來。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:38:57.398000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:08.525000+08:00 |
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我最近看了脆很感動，我知道創辦人叫温若喬，賴清德總統曾經把他請到總統府。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:09.286000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:15.469000+08:00 |
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我看他的影片是講臺語的國際化，我放給大家聽，我們聽了一定會覺得很感動。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:15.469000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:25.364600+08:00 |
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（播放影片） |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:25.364600+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:35.260200+08:00 |
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最後一個「気持ちspring 婸」，「気持ち」是日語，「spring」是英語，「婸」是臺語，把世界三種語言合起來，變成大家說的「起毛spring 婸」，心情很好！ |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:35.260200+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:45.155800+08:00 |
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今年的總預算可以順利來完成三讀，很多工作可以做，「気持ち spring婸」，是不是？真的！ |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:45.155800+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:55.051400+08:00 |
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真的，對啊！ |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:39:55.051400+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:40:04.947000+08:00 |
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也就是說很多剛才提到像是「がラス橐仔」，「橐仔」是臺語，「がラス」是英語，也可以是日語。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:40:04.947000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:40:38.197000+08:00 |
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所以意思就是說，臺語有辦法把過去在臺灣全世界不同的語言合起來，變成臺語，就是說過去日本人的時代也有重視我們整個臺語文化的保留，所以日本人在1906年就做一本《日台大辭典》，再放給大家聽。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:40:38.197000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:41:15.581000+08:00 |
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（播放影片） |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:41:15.581000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:41:57.557000+08:00 |
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你看，這就是臺語，「日花」還有「魚花」、「燭花」，這都是很漂亮的語言，所以臺語說起來是一個很漂亮的語言，對於這個語言，我希望院長跟部長針對剛剛的質詢，我知道因為我在這段時間一直去找，現在我們的臺語在教材方面，簡單說，每一個年級都有教材，這個教材當然也是做得很好，不過我認為社會在推廣臺語教育的這件事情，力道少了一些，然而我看温若喬的Threads去分享臺語的美，哇！ |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:41:59.358000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:05.760000+08:00 |
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那個分享都很多，我認為我們國家應該要用更大的力道，讓大家知道臺語就是這麼漂亮的語言，我們應該要大家都來講臺語，我這樣講，對不對？ |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:13.675000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:35.064000+08:00 |
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感謝委員關心我們臺語的推展，其實我們從去年開始全國22個縣市的教育局處長都有承諾，我們從幼兒園開始就是因應不同社區的族群結構，開始教臺語或是教客語或是原住民語，這我們有在做。 |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:35.064000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:42.828000+08:00 |
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到今年的過年，我們的終身教育司也另外開發一套app「用臺灣台語拜年 部長阿公發紅包」，也就是說我們現在整個臺語或者國家語言的環境，我們會全力來支持。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:42.828000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:59.727000+08:00 |
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對，這樣就對了，創造讓大家覺得說臺語是一個很舒服的環境。 |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:59.727000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:00.727000+08:00 |
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是、是、是。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:42:59.887000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:02.688000+08:00 |
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我覺得這件事情我們有必要，把這麼好的、也這麼國際化的一個語言，要讓它一代一代傳下去。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:02.688000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:03.688000+08:00 |
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是，臺語也是我們的國家語言，一個語言…… |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:02.868000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:31.319000+08:00 |
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是啊，現在有國家語言發展法，我們國家也有客家話，也有這些原住民的話，每種都要，但是我覺得臺語真的是很漂亮啦，也許我對其他那些客家話不夠了解，但是我真的在這段時間覺得臺語是這麼好的一個語言，沒有發揚光大真的很可惜、有夠可惜。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:33.320000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:51.688000+08:00 |
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一個語言要把它保留、流傳或是通用，除了語言以外，要有文字，我們現在除了羅馬拼音以外，也漸漸有臺語的文字大家在研究，我們也看過整篇文章是用臺語寫出來，一開始看比較不習慣，但越看你會覺得可以將臺語的味道保留在裡面。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:52.548000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:52.929000+08:00 |
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越看心裡是覺得越爽快。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:53.229000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:55.589000+08:00 |
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所以我想我們要加強文字的研究。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:43:55.589000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:44:00.051000+08:00 |
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好，所以院長，我希望我們應該要用更多資源，針對這些做臺語語言的研究，把它發揚廣大，並且對於要如何宣傳，我們要再用更多資源來重視這件事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.754 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:00.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:02.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
教育部、文化部都要投入這項工作，來保存我們固有的語言。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.708 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:17.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:21.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
好，我接下來請交通部長，教育部長可以先回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:23.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:26.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
院長，我真的覺得你這兩年來很辛苦，有夠辛苦。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:27.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:28.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
大家都辛苦。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:28.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:32.434000+08:00 |
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我認為你應該是有史以來真的是最辛苦的行政院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.591 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:32.534000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-21T10:44:50.240000+08:00 |
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面對國民黨、民眾黨這樣惡搞、毀憲亂政，每一個法律他們都要用立法權完全凌駕行政院來編列預算，直接就是對你們下達指令要怎麼編，才會有今天總預算這樣一個僵局。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-21T10:44:52.321000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-21T10:45:09.730000+08:00 |
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現在又因為他們把大法官卡住，所以很多事情沒有辦法現在還你公道，不過你現在所做的，可以說是把我們現在看到的中華民國憲法可以用的行政自我救濟都發揮了，我覺得歷史會還你一個公道，這個我很有信心。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-21T10:45:10.130000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-21T10:45:35.417000+08:00 |
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民主是很不簡單的一件事情，而且對我來說，很幸運的是有很多前輩所走過的路，我們都可以好好來學習，我也希望朝野之間，既然今天可以有好的開始，我們從好的發展來找最好的結果，趕快把這件事情解決，不管是總預算也好，國防特別預算也好，或是財劃法都可以審查完成，國家就會正常了。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-21T10:45:36.357000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-21T10:45:45.586000+08:00 |
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對，國家一定要向前跑，臺灣不能因為在野黨不理性的杯葛，就讓國家停頓。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-21T10:45:45.766000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-21T10:46:04.558000+08:00 |
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院長，雖然我覺得歷史會還你一個公道，但事實上，我覺得院長你現在需要一個很強的歷史定位，所謂很強的歷史定位就是你要有一項屬於你的建設，以後人家如果說到卓榮泰行政院長就會想到一項建設。 |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-21T10:46:04.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-21T10:46:19.423000+08:00 |
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我想要向院長建議一件，其實我們可以來推動臺鐵全線高架化。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-21T10:46:20.764000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-21T10:46:37.532000+08:00 |
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相信你也知道臺鐵現在每一段都在爭取高架，嘉義水上在爭取，陳冠廷委員也在爭取大林的高架化，他也說未來如果雲林、斗南高架，總不能民雄高架，到大林下來，然後到斗南再爬上去，結果變成雲霄飛車。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.759 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-21T10:46:37.532000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-21T10:46:43.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
這聽起來很有道理，可是事實上，臺鐵是需要被全線高架化，為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-21T10:46:43.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-21T10:47:10.337000+08:00 |
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因為你不是要做全線高架而已，如果我們做了全線高架，我們應該要進一步把臺鐵全部變成1,435mm的標準軌，因為我們知道現在台糖和阿里山的森鐵是五分車，臺鐵是七分車，只有高鐵是標準軌，日本都用標準軌，日本現在很少用七分車。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-21T10:47:10.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-21T10:47:39.811000+08:00 |
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如果我們把臺鐵高架起來，順便做得比較寬一點，用大軌包小軌，也就是標準軌裡面再去包七分車，那麼現在臺鐵的七分車可以跑，比較寬的標準軌的車也可以跑，同樣在那條軌道大軌包小軌同時跑的狀況之下，未來可以創造類似日本更多的觀光列車，它的速度可以比現在臺鐵的速度還要快。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-21T10:47:40.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:01.440000+08:00 |
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你就是把它高架化、把它拓寬，這樣整個臺鐵以後會變得非常強大，大家也會知道這是在卓榮泰行政院長任內做的，因為國家每年的稅收成長，我們可能用10年計畫把它全線高架，一年用1,000億，這樣就能做得起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:01.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:03.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
院長，這是我給你的建議，有辦法這樣來實施嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:04.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:16.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
感謝委員，如果我可以選擇，應該是都會區地下化，跨縣區高架化。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:17.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:20.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你看以臺北市來說，地下化以後，路面都很通暢…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:20.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:23.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
院長，我承認在都會需要地下化。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:23.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:32.336000+08:00 |
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都會地下化，跨區高架化，如果可以朝這樣的工程來進行，那不是個人什麼定位的問題，而是整個國家大大的進步。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:32.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:34.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
國家大大的進步啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:34.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:47.148000+08:00 |
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如果院長你有辦法啟動這件事情，然後請部長幫院長規劃這件事情，真的會讓大家都非常有感，而且以後看到我們的臺鐵有像日本那種可以在車上過夜的旅遊型列車…… |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.725 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:51.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-21T10:48:52.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
鐵道旅遊是非常高端的旅遊。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-21T10:48:52.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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2026-04-21T10:49:03.105000+08:00 |
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鐵道旅遊是非常讓人喜歡的，你看現在鳴日號也成功、藍皮解憂號也成功，包括現在大林的山嵐號也都成功了。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:03.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:16.755000+08:00 |
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現在交通部在推動臺鐵環島四個90分鐘，臺北到高雄90分鐘，高雄到臺東90分鐘，臺東到花蓮、花蓮到臺北，總共四個90分鐘，這也是環島。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.804 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:17.116000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:21.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
如果路線都完整的話，我們也可以發展另外一個觀光事業。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:21.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:30.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
院長，這真的推動得很好，不過就差在全線高架，應該要設法讓它跑的時候都沒有後顧之憂，讓它就在上面跑。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.591 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:31.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:34.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我覺得這個真的可以去思考，好不好，院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:34.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:38.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
謝謝委員，我請交通部計畫一下，看看現在還有什麼路段可以先來加強。對啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.645 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:38.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:40.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
這真的要去規劃，就是分成幾年來做，每年都有，就一直做下去，這樣好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.645 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:40.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:42.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
再來，部長請回，我請農業部部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:42.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-21T10:49:43.073000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
最後1分鐘，我要講快一點。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-21T10:49:56.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-21T10:50:40.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
院長，事實上我們嘉義的產業園區都有在建設，可是我們知道，現在距離嘉科最近的新港農場也有設立產業園區的強烈必要，因為它就在高鐵旁邊，而且鄰近嘉義科學園區，最大的優勢是那邊又有台塑進駐的中洋工業區，兩處中間這一塊可以做成農業科技園區，而且賴清德總統已經多次來這裡做這樣的承諾，所以我希望新港這個產業園區是不是在院長的任內趕快核定，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-21T10:50:40.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-21T10:50:42.262000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我先跟委員報告，委員一直關心在嘉義建立一個農業科技園區，上次我有說過我們農業部會成立一個團隊協助做這個產業園區的規劃，後續我們會把資料提供給嘉義。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-21T10:50:42.262000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-21T10:50:46.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
先來進行可行性的討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:50:46.824000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:50:51.386000+08:00 |
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好，部長，請加速啟動這件事情。會。 |
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0.077 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:50:51.386000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:50:55.948000+08:00 |
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謝謝蔡委員。 |
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蔡委員易餘 |
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2026-04-21T10:50:55.948000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:00.510000+08:00 |
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可以讓整個產業園區透過高鐵沿線能夠串聯起來，這樣好不好？謝謝。 |
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0 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:00.510000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:05.072000+08:00 |
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好的，我們來啟動可行性的討論，謝謝。 |
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0.133 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:05.072000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:07.616000+08:00 |
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謝謝蔡委員，謝謝卓院長。 |
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0.7 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:08.116000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:13.258857+08:00 |
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報告院會，休息10分鐘，休息之後繼續進行質詢。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:13.558857+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:14.701714+08:00 |
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現在休息。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:15.001714+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:16.144571+08:00 |
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休息（10時51分） |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:16.444571+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T10:51:18.158857+08:00 |
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繼續開會（11時1分） |
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0 |