| IVOD_ID |
168645 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168645 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-21T10:01:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-21T10:18:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a5162d46ac0a8089233e699a133bfdf60b71058f854e4ac4ab050b4bc408990a1d216fa11ae63dd35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:01:43 - 10:18:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「針對開放印度移工來台，國人深感憂心，要求行政院院長率相關部會首長向立法院提出『開放印度移工來台對我國整體勞工政策與社會治安的衝擊及相關配套（含強化國與國直聘制度及失聯移工強制遣返機制）防治作為』專案報告，並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等4案。（4月17日）二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。（4月17日）三、邀請行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長列席報告「115年度中央政府總預算案」編製經過並備質詢（含志願役軍人加薪及警消人員退休金等預算編製處理情形併予報告）。（4月21日）四、4月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席,有請卓院長卓院長,貝先生吳委好好,卓院長還有所有內閣的同仁,大家辛苦了憲法六十三條明定立法委員的職責就是一決法律案第二項就是預算案 |
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那非常遺憾今天的這場質詢應當是在去年的9月就要能夠來進行對話因為要審查今年的總預算在拖延了235天之後終於復為所以去年9月的工作立法院拖到今年4月底了 |
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不過還好我的準備都依舊是非常扣合的主題但是我希望總預算之亂不要再重蹈覆轍了我們也複習一下114年總預算那個時候立法院也因為禁法補償的議題拖了70天那今年是變本加厲拖了235天那現在立法院就在趕進度 |
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那依據今天能夠赴委是非常重要上週的一場朝野協商由民進黨黨團總召蔡啟昌總召提出來的解方針對軍人跟警消的加薪其實是政府的現在進行式我們也希望能夠合憲合法所以協商的結論是兩院同意 |
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共推修法也就是立法委員不會片面的用修法去增加政府預算支支出會捍衛財政紀律由行政立法共同磋商這是第一件事是不是半年內就會來啟動好是謝謝委員依照憲法跟預算法的精神 |
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立法委員是沒有辦法增加預算但是如果大幅增加政府的支出必須要徵詢行政院並且尋求他的資金來源這個都必須是法律憲法的程序那過去若干案子若干法律案是沒有這樣做的所以行政院無法在違法的情況下做那麼如果這次朝野協商建立這樣的前提跟共識那未來就是兩院來就應該要編列的預算 |
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由立法院可以提出建議行政院衡量國家的財政紀律跟永續而且衡量各個公平性和民性我們當然會用照顧人民來著手那我們樂見撥亂反正未來立法院也不要再重蹈覆轍那這個修法我剛剛聽你的報告應當半年內我們加速來啟動好嗎擴大照顧警校跟軍人的加薪合理的該加就加是 |
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第二個朝野協商是針對718億的新興預算的這一包那民進黨團提出來的解方就是立法院必須承諾在審查預算的時候不得刪減否則就會陷入我們這些行政部門的同仁我一旦動之了最後預算被刪了他有法律責任也有政治責任所以這一點 |
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包括第三點中選會的人事同意權行政院是不是會盡速的補提名針對這兩項那天朝野協商的後續也請院長快速的跟國人來示意 |
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好 謝謝 對於新興預算718億 行政院早早都表示只要預算付尾 它就進入到實質審查那從今天衝出來這個部分 行政院就會馬上處理所以今天就會馬上處理這個718億今天就可以 今天就開始 很好好消息我們就會處理這個事情 好消息所有中央地方的公務體系都能夠如續的應用 |
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剛剛吳委員又提到了中選會這也是繼剛剛張委員之後兩位委員同時提到這個部分那可見這是朝野都希望讓中選會能夠順利的來進行那我也可以承諾我們會在今天處理今天也就會進行我們會送出三位名單也同時任命大約已經通過同意權的那四位我想院長的宣誓是 |
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釋出了非常高度的誠意跟善意我也希望台灣的社會我們朝野都聽見了今天總預算可以付尾預算就是民生不要再拿任何的政治的議題來卡住民生而院長所承諾的 |
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中選會的人事統一選今天就會送出還有我們的718億的新興急迫預算今天開始讓各部會大膽的去致用照顧人民很好這是good news我們就把這樣的正確訊息向社會來公布那下一頁 |
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再一項拜託是希望韓院長、江副院長跟超維各黨團能夠緊速排定另外三位新的被提名人來這裡的同意權讓中選會11名委員能夠很正常的來運作那年底的選舉快到了很多的選務讓他進入就緒今天主持的是江副院長希望立法院能夠也依循我們的審查的權限政院補提名立法院就嚴謹 |
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合理加速来审查我相信副院长也听见了我来扣合的民生的另外一个议题其实也跟预算相关中东的战火造成国际的油价不断的来飙升稳定物价我看见行政院不断的召集会议跨部会的对话也提出对策那政府出手了 |
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讓我們的油價其實是亞鄰國家亞洲鄰近國家的最低價就是我們照顧人民不會有物價的波動而中油也補貼破了114億是為了讓油價能夠動漲不要造成大家的民生負擔 |
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那我看到交通部長也站上來了我們的大眾運輸也是還漲所以說您大力的用我們的公務部門在海陸空運的用油補貼是不是也破了八十多億所以說呢這些公共運輸我們都做對於油價的動漲我們也都進行那我要請教院長我們基於選區非常多的基層非常多的多元計程車的問獎 |
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也在問畢竟油價就是上上下下即便政府努力的來動漲那是不是也能夠進行對於多元計程車不管不管是傳統的小黃或者是uber這些也來進行必要的油價的補貼呢行政院有沒有演繹 |
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好 三樣事情跟委員報告第二 中油它確實吸收了雅林最低價以及專案平穩的這個雙重的平緩機制吸收了110多億另外台電也吸收了台電吸收的是LNG這個 |
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加價之後中油並沒有吸收是由台電吸收台電的電費也沒有漲所以LNG增加的費用是台電吸收了但是大眾運輸現在我們回頭來看大眾運輸 |
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現在的油價是遠比2月28號高蠻多的所以現在的油價對這些大眾運輸不管是客運業者或是計程業者來講都是一個相當大的負擔那交通部很體恤到這個業者的需求正在研議如何就中油跟台電之外這種大眾運輸能夠系統性的來規劃那這個部分部長已經有清楚的這個構想我們也討論過幾次我們還要再進一步讓它成熟 |
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好 這大眾運輸 那這些計程車的部分呢 |
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多元計程車也會納入嘛也會納入該補貼就補貼來部長檢要像委員報告因為我們公共運輸的系統影響到一般民眾的日常所以我們希望在這個部分不要去影響到一般民眾日常的支出所以我們希望所有的公共運輸系統都能夠在不漲價的狀況底下讓所有的國民來享用那公共運輸就包含了公路運輸船舶運輸還有國內的航空運輸 |
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那當然計程車跟多元計程車這個絕對也是公共運輸的一環是那在我們整體的考量裡面我們會全盤一起來討論我希望我替小黃計程車對多元計程車來發聲也希望能夠爭取到必要的補償政府能做我們盡量做當然我知道預算很辛苦 |
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也希望今年的中油預算台電預算交通部的預算在野黨的委員看到我們吸收了這麼多因為戰事而衍生的費用希望在預算上應當給予台電中油交通部門最多的支持好嗎那接下來是勞動議題 |
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勞退新制21年了其實當年上路的勞退新制民進黨永遠走在最前面它成為個人賬戶制可稀釋而且可以享有投資的效益那還是有11萬人我台北市佔了4萬人百分之將近40 |
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那分布在製造業金融保險業跟公共行政國防等的重點行業有11萬純救治的勞工他享受不到新制的好處他長期處於不利的地位所以說我們民進黨的多位立委共同的倡議包括保釋政策會執行長我們共同來推動純救治勞工的退休權益的改革確保了勞方的權益 |
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也兼顧了資方的需求所以吳斯堯的要求下頁也是民進黨團的要求趕快來推動勞退新制就轉新自願參與尊重勞工個人的選擇權 |
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勞僱合一可以確保制度的運作可行性以及呢重點就在能夠提前結算一次入賬讓過去累積的退休權益轉化為新制可攜帶可累積可投資而且有保障關於這一點是不是勞動部門能夠不需要修法嗎可以直接啟動請宣示一下這也是今天的good good news |
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跟委員報告 勞動部其實有聽到很多的救治的勞工還有委員們的建議那也就是大家希望說是不是能夠讓救治的勞工可以在這個新制的帳戶裡面然後能夠有一個專戶那把自己過去在救治的退休金能夠放到這個政府可以來協助執行這個基金投資的這個成果可以一起享有這個成果 |
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那我們在近期初步的評估我們認為這是有可行性的那這個做法我們的確認為可能可以讓超過10萬符合這個退休條件的對 超過10萬符合退休條件的就職勞工可以來增加退休金所以勞工部願意在這個方向上來去做方案的研議 |
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好那就加速好嗎行政部門全力來支持我們對於勞工的權益不要因為制度的銜接而遺落了一批人好嗎我們大力支持因為這個方向有機會可以是這個包括雇主包括勞工都可以獲益好就是多盈好謝謝部長也請政院來支持最後還是回到總預算的課題 |
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總預算砍過頭喔114年省最亂 山最多 凍最嚴那時候我是黨團幹事長我在表決的那個晚上一再的舉牌告訴國人現在有哪些預算又被報復性的刪減了 |
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今天才剛赴委看到藍白的黨團他們同樣又來了又要報復性的審查了針對NCC監察院陸委會沒宣費同樣的手法也就是114年的總預算之亂今年好像會持續再上演我真的不樂見 |
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報復預算就是報復人民啊那我們來看上一次就是砍過頭過去平均馬蔡執政16年每年均刪247億平均刪減的比例是1.189% |
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但是114年藍白聯手刪了2075億比例是6.6也就是過去的5.6倍最後院長應該還記得我今天在前情提要最後還用追加預算立法院砍過頭了然後再來弄一個追加預算來撥破房我希望今年不要但是有兩個課題我們要清楚的來釐清第一個預算 |
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814.756 |
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史上新高是因為我們拼經濟有成啊是因為我們能夠把經濟發展的紅利編入預算照顧更多的人民啊可是在野黨一再的說總預算編這麼高砍最多就是合理這就是懲罰優等生不是嗎 |
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所以說我看到114年確實因為經濟發展很好我們歲數增加了9.8%2800多億但是115年就是現在要省的因為財化法被搬走了3753億我們勉強還能夠正向的增加歲數281億 |
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成長只有0.9但我要向這一黨的委員說不是因為預算規模高就要砍得多這完全是謬論我們來看下一頁我們來看看地方議會因為中央拼經濟有成預算規模大我們連帶照顧地方給地方的預算也更多了我們看看六都115年也都是史上新高的預算因為中央給得多再加上才化法 |
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但是地方縣市的議會不管是藍綠誰多數大家都還是合理監督啊我們看台北蔣安市長去年今年預算審查只被刪了0.1% |
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新北山了0.24%高雄也是0.1%換言之 預算最高並非就要刪減最多我希望藍白的委員不要再重蹈覆轍最後一頁而才化法是重中之重 |
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900.78 |
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今年因為被搬了這麼多錢將近四千億是不是在編來年的預算陷入了困難呢財化法還是要審查我希望今天附委的不是直接總預算啊還有政院的財化法能夠撥亂反正啊院長您最後回應一下好嗎在去年國家八點六八的高經濟成長率以及現在我們股市達到四兆美元的一個市產產值中華民國的國民台灣的人民有資格也有條件也有權利 |
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980.339 |
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980.906 |
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好 謝謝薇薇 |