| IVOD_ID |
168639 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168639 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-20T11:16:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-20T11:28:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e28731ead054c667b8f9a22b521a60030bb0aa4f24011631239a5a9f738ad5f6472f2de3f147acf75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:57 - 11:28:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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我們太空中心的目標就是將來有自己的發射台 |
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還有自己可以發射衛星然後有自己的太空產業相關等等的所以未來天空真的是會非常的擁擠那當然天空擁擠相對的就是事故就會越來越多嘛所以相對的我們也必須要先預作一些防範未來的工作比如說那個前一陣子在嘉義外海 |
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這個星鏈的它的一個衛星爆炸碎片呢 臨近台灣很近嘛 對不對那這個萬一將來有碎片掉到台灣砸傷人或砸死人 這個要誰負責這個要誰負責 而且航空組呢 |
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報告委員這個有關於就是火箭發射的過程裡面那它的可能某些結束模段它自動會掉下來那掉下來的過程裡面雜傷的這個人員的話依照這個我們目前的這個應該說有兩部分 |
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一部分是國際上的規定 其實國際上對這一部分並沒有很明確的規定那對國內的規定的話呢目前是 台灣發展法是有寫第18條是有關於台灣事故之調查由運安會辦理那這是一個依據運安會要管理 要調查 要了解 |
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是 然後另外一部分就是有關於這個我們的月初事故調查法是這個目前正在送這個部分條修正草案的進行當中修正草案已經送行政院了送行政院了 是所以將來這個擁擠的太空呢可想而知會越來越多嘛現在馬斯克不是星鏈希望說衛星要佈滿全球嗎 |
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未來他搞不好真的想取代電信通訊嘛那天空中這麼多的衛星那包括我們台灣自己也要發展衛星所以相關的未來的太空事故的規劃事故調查這個雲南會是不是會去承擔起這個責任 |
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我們有在今年的四月一號召開一個今年度的第一次太空事故調查專家小組會議那這個會議裡面我們有開始在朝你所謂重大太空事故的範圍那因為重大事故因為它它有範圍有涉及我們先不要講重大啦因為重大當然就是它可能會多重大你們要界定我們要定義出來 |
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那包括其實越南會有一個部分有進步我要給你們誇獎一下啦就是之前電動車鋰電池的燃燒以前你們越南會是說三個人 |
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以上的事故你們才會調查那之前我也諮詢過李電池現在各方面的專業再加上他需要有比較專家去了解到底事故的原因所以現在雲南匯這一部分你們也有進步啦現在電動車的事故你們就肯調查嘛 |
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就會調查啦這個是運安會的進步這個當然要給你們鼓勵一下那我相對的就是去做延伸就是說因為太空事故現在真的很難講那一個碎片下來砸死人砸傷人都是事故嘛那這個你們要界定是要砸傷三個人以上才調查嗎 |
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我們現在對太空事務的這個調查有這個小組正在一直密集在討論你們現在目前的立場可能是怎麼樣現在我們的立場是太空發展法就只有一句話講說太空事務有應當會調查是啊但是我們如果來比照航空的話航空的一些民航的一些意外不是應當會調查是民航局調查 |
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我知道啦所以這個變成這個太空太空的相關事故它沒有一個主管機構我不知道要找誰討論你航空有個民航局嘛那水路似乎要有一個航港局嘛那太空事故我們不知道它的主管機構到底要找誰啊 |
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現在是那個國科會太空中心他們說是那個航空太空中心他們在發射啊他又是一個他不是政府機構所以我的意思就是防範未然嘛很多事情你如果都已經大家都有覆案了大家都知道怎麼做了那就簡單啦問題是現在要防範未然大家都不知道怎麼做的時候總要有個帶頭的嘛 |
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那我是這樣子希望啦跟要求啦那也是要越南會可以研究啦也就是說今天坦白講事故重大事故本來越南會在處理陸海空都是處理重大事故嘛一般的事故那通常他們各有單位會去處理嘛但是如果一些比較新興的比較特殊的就像電動車你們也承擔下來我們也感謝啦 |
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因為這個鋰電池燃燒有時候以前的交通部的經驗沒有這個經驗嘛所以這個需要有一些學術的研究去研究那我講的太空碎片現在太空中心也不是負責這個嘛那但是我講萬一掉下來砸到人砸傷人砸死人那這個是不是總是要有個單位先把它承擔下來我要先去調查嘛 |
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那這個目前我看最適合的就是雲南會不知道主委的意下如何我們會跟國科會協調或者是開會過程中會跟他討論到底怎麼分工我是希望說那個雲南會真的是多一點承擔啦多一點宣傳也讓國人知道雲南會的功能嘛我舉個例子雲南會你們的FB |
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你知道你們FB現在狀況怎麼樣嗎 |
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真的很不好意思跟委員報告我們以前確實有事故調查技術能量的介紹或者指標性的事故的調查案件我們確實有FB、Youtube我們確實有上傳現在呢?抱歉我們112年之後因為我們沒有編列媒體政治和醫護訓導會所以後來就沒有再更新了你也知道沒有更新我跟諸位報告你們只有Youtube |
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你們連FB都沒有啦IG也沒有啦 催也沒有啦現在年輕人想知道說 我那個ATP那個煞車系統普悠瑪的事件經過議員會的調查 現在狀況如何改善如何那我民眾如果想知道我去議員會看 哇 那什麼都沒有 |
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我們來做做一個AVP我太魯閣事件我跟主委諮詢過很多次了我這個鞭波防護系統經過運動會的調查跟要求現在進度如何對這個可以在在網路上在AVP上我們可以呈現對啊我復興航空空難唯一的倖存者他怎麼活下來的對 |
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我們可以在社群媒體上再努力看看怎麼樣把它當成一個提供政府跟社會大眾一個管道所以最後就延伸到我跟雲南會問了很多次我說以前我質詢何安會的時候他也認為我何安跟社會宣導有什麼關係啊但是他現在坦白講做得不錯 |
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他到華山 到很多地方舉辦 南部也有啦很多人民 我說人民對這個河安 或者是河電他透過他辦的這個活動 事實上也在科普教育獲得了好評那運營會其實我要求很多次 比如說你如果有辦個活動 |
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那你把這個ATP啦 普悠瑪啦那個太魯閣啦把一些重大事故的案件你做個整理Demo給人民看事實上我覺得這個其實對於運安的運輸的教育其實是人民會有感那這個部分我已經講了好幾次了不知道有沒有機會把它完成 |
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有啦 我們有遵照原的指示齁在 譬如說113年的年底在高雄就辦那個英安資訊教育研討會的時候我們就我給他做一個分辨讓主委參考啦主委你這個研討會比較學術性我們都肯定啦我的意思是說讓市民有感啦讓人民有感啦 |
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那跟人民接觸啦讓人民知道說這些重大案件現在狀況如何啦那不管是辦活動啦還是你們的Youtube啦 你們的IG FB啦那個一定要花錢嘛 不花錢裡面自己經營一個FB有這麼困難嗎而且FB都已經比較老了 像IG現在我們越南會完全都沒有 |
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那我原來會 其實做這個讓人民有感他對你的信任度 對政府的信任度都會比較高啦這個有沒有辦法來...我們做幾個專題好不好 我們希望看到結果啦因為我今天講的 每次都這樣子要求要求都沒做 我都想罵大聲一點都不知道怎麼罵 |
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有啦 有在研討會有做宣導 但是沒有像委員剛剛提的用專題式的我們繼續努力就具體一點 讓人民有感的然後人民想知道未來這個問題怎麼解決心裡也有個覆案 國家有在努力有做的事情進度到哪裡 讓人民知道這不是很好嘛 好不好是是好啦 那就 |
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這幾個包括活動包括這幾個宣傳是不是讓我看到成果可以下次我要問要有成果不要老是問都沒有成果這樣子你都不好意思我也不好意思對不對好不好謝謝OK謝謝 |
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謝謝主席，我們再請主委。 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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我們請林主委。 |
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林主任委員信得 |
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委員好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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主委好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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承上題，徐富癸委員所問的，我們太空中心的目標就是將來有自己的發射臺、自己可以發射衛星、有自己的太空產業相關等等的，所以未來天空真的是會非常的擁擠。 |
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當然天空擁擠，相對的就是事故會越來越多，所以相對的，我們也必須要預做一些防範未然的工作，比如說，前一陣子在嘉義外海有星鏈的衛星爆炸，其碎片距離臺灣很近，對不對？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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萬一將來有碎片掉到臺灣砸傷人或砸死人，這個要誰負責？ |
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2026-04-20T11:18:57.476000+08:00 |
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報告委員，有關火箭發射的過程裡面，可能它的某一節會自動掉下來，掉下來的過程中砸傷人員的話，依照我們目前應該說有兩部分，一部分是國際上的規定，其實國際上對這一部分並沒有很明確的規定，但對於國內的規定，目前太空發展法是有寫，在第十八條有關太空事故之調查，由運安會辦理，這是一個依據。對啊！ |
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0.86 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:18:57.476000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:02.826000+08:00 |
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運安會要管理、要調查、要了解吧？是！ |
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0.929 |
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蘇組長水灶 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:03.226000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:15.915000+08:00 |
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另外一部分就是有關於運輸事故調查法，目前正在送部分條文修正草案進行當中，已經送行政院了。 |
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0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:16.115000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:17.096000+08:00 |
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修正草案送行政院了？是。 |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:18.036000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:27.542000+08:00 |
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所以將來這個擁擠的太空，可想而知衛星會越來越多，像馬斯克不是希望星鏈衛星要布滿全球嗎？ |
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0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:30.277000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:34.101000+08:00 |
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未來他搞不好真的想取代電信通訊。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:36.604000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:51.560000+08:00 |
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天空中這麼多的衛星，包括臺灣自己也要發展衛星，所以未來相關太空事故的規劃、事故調查，運安會是不是會承擔起這個責任？ |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:19:53.627000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:20:12.697000+08:00 |
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我們有在今年的4月1號召開今年度第一次太空事故調查專家小組會議，這個會議裡面我們有開始在草擬所謂重大太空事故的範圍，因為重大事故範圍涉及火箭載具、太空載具…… |
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0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:20:13.718000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:20:20.761000+08:00 |
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我們先不要講重大，因為重大當然就是它可能會多重大，你們要界定好。 |
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0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-20T11:20:21.262000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:20:21.722000+08:00 |
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我們要定義出來。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-20T11:20:23.448000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:04.523000+08:00 |
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其實運安會有一個部分有進步，我要誇獎你們一下，就是之前電動車鋰電池的燃燒，以前你們運安會說3個人以上的事故，你們才會調查，之前我也質詢過，鋰電池現在各方面的專業，再加上它需要有專家去了解事故的原因，所以運安會這部分也有進步，現在只要是電動車的事故，你們就會調查，這個是運安會的進步，當然要給你們鼓勵一下。 |
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0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:06.363000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:19.430000+08:00 |
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相對的，我做延伸，因為太空事故現在真的很難講，一個碎片下來砸死人、砸傷人，都是事故，這個你們要界定是砸傷3個人以上才會調查嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:22.145000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-20T11:21:29.209000+08:00 |
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我們對太空事故的調查有小組正在一直密集討論。 |
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0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:29.209000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-20T11:21:33.491000+08:00 |
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你們現在的立場可能是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:33.491000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:42.636000+08:00 |
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現在我們的立場是，太空發展法只有一句話講說太空事故由運安會調查。是啊。 |
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0.875 |
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林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:42.796000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:50.220000+08:00 |
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但是如果比照航空的話，航空、民航的一些意外不是運安會調查，是民航局調查。 |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:51.301000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:21:51.541000+08:00 |
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我知道。 |
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林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-20T11:21:52.362000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:06.077000+08:00 |
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所以變成太空的相關事故沒有一個主管機關，我們不知道要找誰討論，航空有民航局，水路事故方面有航港局，太空事故我們不知道它的主管機關到底要找誰。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:06.617000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:08.539000+08:00 |
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現在是國科會太空中心。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
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林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:08.919000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:14.644000+08:00 |
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國科會說是太空中心在發射，它不是政府機關。 |
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0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:14.644000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:17.046000+08:00 |
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對，所以我的意思就是防範未然嘛！對。 |
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0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:17.847000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:22.831000+08:00 |
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很多事情如果大家都已經有腹案了，大家都知道怎麼做了，那就簡單了。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:24.152000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:27.936000+08:00 |
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問題是現在要防範未然，大家都不知道怎麼做的時候，總要有個帶頭的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:31.453000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:48.317000+08:00 |
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我是這樣子希望與要求，也希望運安會可以研究，就是說今天坦白講，本來運安會對陸、海、空都是處理重大事故，一般事故通常各有單位會去處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:49.638000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:22:58.440000+08:00 |
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但是如果一些比較新興的、特殊的，就像電動車你們也承擔下來，我們也感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-20T11:22:59.859000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:23:09.823000+08:00 |
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因為鋰電池燃燒，以前交通部並沒有這個經驗，所以需要有一些學術單位去研究。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-20T11:23:12.004000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:23:34.964000+08:00 |
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我講的太空碎片，太空中心也不是負責這個，但是萬一掉下來砸到人、砸傷人、砸死人，總是要有個單位先把它承擔下來，要先去調查，這個目前我看最適合的就是運安會，不知道主委意下如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-20T11:23:36.225000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-20T11:23:41.366000+08:00 |
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我們會跟國科會協調，或者在開會過程中跟他討論到底怎麼分工。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-20T11:23:43.027000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:23:51.049000+08:00 |
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我希望運安會真的是多一點承擔、多一點宣傳，也讓國人知道運安會的功能。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-20T11:23:51.749000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-20T11:23:58.597000+08:00 |
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我再舉個例子，你知道你們運安會FB現在的狀況怎麼樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:01.589000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:13.337000+08:00 |
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真的很不好意思，跟委員報告，以前事故調查技術能量的介紹或是指標性事故調查案件，我們確實有上傳FB、YouTube。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:14.478000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-20T11:24:15.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
現在呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:15.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:17.100000+08:00 |
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不好意思！ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:17.100000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:23.204000+08:00 |
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112年之後，因為我們沒有編列媒體政策與業務宣導費，所以後來就沒有再update、沒有更新。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.641 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:24.225000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:25.166000+08:00 |
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你也知道沒有更新？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:25.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:26.166000+08:00 |
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這個我們知道，我們會…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:26.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-20T11:24:29.109000+08:00 |
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我跟主委報告，你們只有YouTube。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:29.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:30.189000+08:00 |
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對，我們以後會編預算來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:30.189000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:24:46.179000+08:00 |
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你們連FB都沒有、IG也沒有、Threads也沒有，現在年輕人想知道ATP煞車系統、普悠瑪事件經過運安會的調查現在狀況如何、改善如何，民眾如果想知道，他去運安會看，哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-20T11:24:46.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-20T11:24:47.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
什麼都沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林主任委員信得 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-20T11:25:00.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-20T11:25:01.198000+08:00 |
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我們來做一個FB平臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:02.058000+08:00 |
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太魯閣事件我跟主委質詢過很多次了，邊坡防護系統經過運安會的調查跟要求，現在進度如何？ |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:18.562000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:22.523000+08:00 |
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這個我們可以在網路上、FB上呈現。對啊！ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:23.743000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:28.644000+08:00 |
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復興航空空難唯一的倖存者怎麼活下來的？ |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:32.188000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:40.635000+08:00 |
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我們會在社群媒體上再努力看看怎麼樣把它變成提供政府跟社會大眾的一個管道。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:25:40.995000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:26:14.978000+08:00 |
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所以最後就延伸到，我跟運安會問了很多次，我說以前我質詢核安會的時候，他也認為核安與社會宣導有什麼關係，人家現在坦白講做得不錯，他到華山、到很多地方舉辦，南部也有，很多人民對核安或者是核電，他透過辦的活動，事實上也在科普教育獲得了好評。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:26:15.759000+08:00 |
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運安會其實我要求過很多次，比如說如果你有辦活動，你把ATP、普悠瑪、太魯閣等一些重大事故案件做個整理，demo給人民看，事實上，我覺得對於運輸教育，人民其實會有感，這個部分我已經講了好幾次了，不知道有沒有機會把它完成？ |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:26:49.816000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:26:59.626000+08:00 |
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有啦，我們有遵照委員的指示，譬如說113年年底在高雄舉辦運安資訊交流研討會的時候，我們就…… |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:00.167000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:35.356000+08:00 |
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我提供一個建議讓主委參考，主委，你這個研討會比較學術性，我們都肯定，我的意思是讓市民有感、讓人民有感，就要跟人民接觸，讓人民知道這些重大案件現在狀況如何，不管是辦活動還是你們的YouTube、IG、FB，那個一定要花錢，不花錢自己經營一個FB有這麼困難嗎？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:35.356000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:56.475000+08:00 |
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而且FB都已經比較老了，IG、Threads現在運安會完全都沒有，運安會其實做這個讓人民有感，他對你的信任度、對政府的信任度都會比較高，這個有沒有辦法來…… |
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林主任委員信得 |
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遵照委員的指示，我們把幾個特殊的案子，太魯閣、ATP等，我們做幾個專題來…… |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:57.015000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:58.475000+08:00 |
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好不好？好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:27:59.416000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:08.773000+08:00 |
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我們希望看到結果，因為我已經講了，每次都這樣要求，要求都沒做，我都想罵大聲一點都不知道怎麼罵。有啦！ |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:09.554000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:15.258000+08:00 |
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有在研討會做宣導，但是沒有像委員剛剛提的用專題式的，我們繼續努力。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:15.258000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:16.258000+08:00 |
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好不好？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:15.538000+08:00 |
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就具體一點，讓人民有感的。是。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:18.941000+08:00 |
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然後人民想知道未來這個問題怎麼解決，心裡也有個腹案，國家有在努力，有做的事情、進度到哪裡讓人民知道，這不是很好嗎？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:30.749000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:31.309000+08:00 |
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好不好？是。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:32.470000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:41.114000+08:00 |
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好啦，這幾個包括活動、包括宣傳，是不是讓我看到成果？是。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:43.135000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:43.275000+08:00 |
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可以喔？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:43.536000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:45.737000+08:00 |
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下次我還要問喔！ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:45.737000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:46.218000+08:00 |
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要有成果。 |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:46.218000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:47.218000+08:00 |
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會有成果慢慢出來。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:46.778000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:52.042000+08:00 |
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不要老是我問都沒有成果，這樣子你都不好意思，我也不好意思，對不對？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:52.042000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:53.944000+08:00 |
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好不好？謝謝。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:53.944000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:54.104000+08:00 |
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好，OK，謝謝。 |
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林主任委員信得 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:54.604000+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:56.318286+08:00 |
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謝謝委員，謝謝。 |
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主席（邱委員若華代） |
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2026-04-20T11:28:56.618286+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:28:58.618286+08:00 |
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謝謝許智傑委員。 |
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主席（邱委員若華代） |
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2026-04-20T11:28:58.918286+08:00 |
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2026-04-20T11:29:02.918286+08:00 |
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下一位登記的委員是黃健豪召委。 |
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