| IVOD_ID |
168580 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168580 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T11:26:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T11:39:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae3e2811b5761ce2f4fba64134b0f452f2ee6b800412f8d870b4e5686418a82e3265ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
何欣純 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:52 - 11:39:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、經濟部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員及農業部就「因應中東情勢，國際油價飆升對於我國陸海空運輸之衝擊評估與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【4月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝最認真最英俊的趙偉我們請最認真也最英俊的交通部部長好 我們請陳部長 |
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部長好部長我看到你昨天有背著一個儀器然後去跟著白沙屯馬祖走路對不對是那個是行動氣象儀行動氣象儀就是氣象軍啦我們氣象署說那個叫氣象軍那為什麼會特地背著那個去走 |
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報告委員因為我們這次白沙屯媽祖跟著他走的人四十幾萬人那四十到六十萬人這麼多的人那我們希望說能夠提供每一分鐘最新的就是走的過程當中地面上面的溼度溫度跟他目前的曝曬指數就是說紫外線曬的指數對對對我們希望每一分鐘提供給所有的信徒那他們看到這個之後呢他們就知道什麼時候應該要想辦法避暑那什麼時候有可能會下雨這個部分我們也都會提供資料 |
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所以是透過你身上背的那個行動氣象儀能夠得到這些我相信現在的科技包括AI包括數位包括這些相關的系統整合所有這個行動的氣象儀但是透過你背的那一個載具之外是我們沿途都有相關的這個行動車輛嗎沒有另外用車還是有建制 |
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他目前就是透過這個可能有SIM卡之類的通訊的機制從那個機器會直接傳送出來那你今天沒有背著他跟著白沙屯媽祖走那現在跟著白沙屯媽祖走的這些46萬的信眾們那他又如何得知是 報告委員因為我們的氣象署的同仁真的大家很辛苦我昨天會下去是因為他們會全程跟著走對 我就是要你講出這一句話我們是先給他們鼓掌一下好不好 |
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謝謝真的這些同仁真的好辛苦每個都曬得非常的黑不過我相信白沙屯媽祖會保佑他們的因為他們有這份心而且我們行政單位可以這麼貼心的能夠提供這個措施這是今年第一次嗎還是往年都有 |
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往年我們是沿途來做氣象的報告跟報導但我們為了更貼近真正大家的體感的溫度跟感受所以我們今年是第一次用行動氣象儀跟著大家走好我也希望未來我們相關的其他單位能夠也能夠 |
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第一個跟得上這個民眾的日常跟得上民眾的這個生活那能夠透過這樣子的一個宗教的大盛事或者是其他領域的大盛事也可以讓大家感受到政府部門是很 |
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貼近民意的是很貼近民眾的生活的政府部門是很貼心的好不好我覺得我今天一開始舉這個例子是因為我昨天看到新聞報導我是要先給我們交通部陳部長以及我們隨行的所有的人一個大大的鼓勵尤其是氣象署對不對好謝謝那第二個我今天要談 |
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這個物價的問題因為燃油我看今天早上很多委員都在關心這件事這個4月7號的國籍航空的燃油附加費用有調漲所以國際線的票價有調漲是沒有錯 |
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根據這個有調數的資料燃油是佔了所有這個航空業的營運成本大概兩三成那所以呢航空業因為油料的飆漲所以他成本大漲票價飆漲那一定是轉嫁給旅客那這個呢當然因為它叫做國際線有很多的國際航空公司不在我們可以這個 |
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道德勸說也好或是掌控也好也不再是我們的管轄之內但是我還是希望我們自己可以的國籍航空是不是也能夠盡量盡量的緩漲慢慢漲不要一次漲太大不過要先肯定什麼 |
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為了穩物價我們的油電是動漲的中油吸收了破百億相對的其實就是政府吸收電呢我們也維持動漲下一頁那跟交通部有關什麼民航的國內票價首度宣布動漲對不對那請問要動到什麼時候預估 |
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報告委員因為我們這個實際上它的戰爭會發生多久這個不曉得沒人知道那油價會調漲到多久也不曉得那我們目前除了說短期之內拜託中油來做這個油價的平穩那之後再由交通部編列預算給中油 |
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我們目前的估算是兩個版本一個是估到12月我們大概要花多少錢那另外一個是估到明年的12月也就是2016年的一整年我們都希望能夠做這樣子的控制那目前預算已經有估算出來那不過這個部分還是要看行政院整體的政策我們的裁員要從哪裡來 |
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所以你有AB方案一個是估到今年的年底大概預估我們要交通部要補助這個國內航線的用油量是多少預算那第二個方案是估到明年的12月但是這個部分是叫做國內航線的用油對沒錯國內航線我覺得要跟 |
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跟您討論因為我看到現在上一頁我現在已經看到了4月5月大概不管是哪一個航站從桃園、台中、高雄已經有268班的國際航班取消 |
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那我揣測啦我當然不知道是不是這個原因啦是不是跟油價飆漲有關係啦我為什麼會提到這個因為這個取消呢牽動到的是整個產業跟市場包括呢這個旅遊觀光等等都有相關性下一頁以台中來講5月就減少了18個航班那這個部分呢18個航班牽涉到的就是什麼 |
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國內外旅客的觀光 餐旅 住宿 運輸 接駁等各產業會受到影響這個部長你知道嗎 |
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是 這個我們也都有掌握 包含整個全體 就是台灣所有的國際機場它的航班的變化狀況 還有台中機場的變化狀況 我們都在評估當中那目前航空公司會優先減班 或者是說把班次減少或合併的這個班次通常都是承載率比較低的也就是說訂票率不高的 他才會先做調整 |
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我們希望是這樣子啦 希望是跟油價沒有關係跟油價還是有關係 跟油價是有關係所以他會優先選擇把定位率相對低的把它減少那也就是說定位率高的影響會影響到已經定位的旅客的權益啊會 那所以這個消費者的權益的部分我們也會來顧及就是說他該退費或者說該做這個年費的減免等等之類我們會來跟航空公司來溝通 |
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對 因為就是這個不是只有這個航空減班的問題也不是只有他們航空公司的營運問題這牽涉到的還有旅客的消費者權益問題還包括我們的觀光 餐餘 住宿 運輸 接駁等各個產業都會受到影響那這個我是希望提早提醒我們交通部我們民航局包括觀光局我們應該要針對這樣子的一個 |
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趨勢要先提早做準備要有因應的方案因為我們現在對於這個剛剛講的國內的民航機的用油有補助我們也有對公共運輸的這個公共運輸業也有補貼政策那未來我想來下一頁 |
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剛剛部長提到的有估兩個方案是針對民航機的國內線的一個用油補助可是我們現在看到您對外所講的穩物價的85億再加上整體的政府的穩定物價的代價是1292億那裁員帶籌措那這些85億裡面是交通部給出來的數字 |
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預估哪些項目到什麼時候用在什麼何處可用到何時就如同我剛剛在問你的民航機的國內線的用油的補貼你有兩個方案一個是預估到今年年底一個方案是預估到明年的年底那你這個85億到底是怎麼估出來的 |
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向委員報告我們其實有分陸海空運空運的部分大概是40億左右那陸運的部分我們目前估算也差不多接近40億那海運的部分目前估算是差不多6億所以是用整體的海陸空這樣子大概來抓用在何處都只有這個燃油的一個補貼嗎用油的補貼嗎我們都是在用油的補貼沒有錯 |
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所以沒有其他受到影響的產業的一個評估跟未來可能需要補貼的政策嗎像委員報告我們初步因為戰爭發生到會走到什麼樣的階段我們不曉得所以我們目前的估算是針對公共運輸的部分我們先做公共運輸的規劃那其他的部分我們會預先來看如果有可能會發生比較長期的影響我們會來預作規劃我就先提一個例子來下一頁 |
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針對公共運輸你剛剛講沒錯你們現在針對公共運輸來來估預算那所以呢行政院已經說宣布動長但是呢來剛剛 |
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部長有提到 我們現在因為國外旅遊 燃油的成本高所以國外旅遊的團價 票價 成本高 很貴所以這應該引導做國旅所以我們現在4月份 政府有開始補助2026國旅補助 最高領3200所以你又鼓勵大家來國旅 但是國旅會牽涉到一個什麼問題公共運輸 你有補助了 但是遊覽車勒 |
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客車咧那他們同樣的油料支出就大成本也會提高那他成本提高團費就會提高那你的補助3200會不會變相的也是在提高團費你有沒有想到這樣子的一個循環的一個加成的作用 |
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報告委員謝謝你的提醒這個我們會來注意跟思考就是說這個補助到底有沒有真正的落實到讓民眾提高他的意願那真正的讓他這個消費的成本降低這個我們會來思考那不過這個國旅的補助目前因為總預算還沒過所以我們很希望四月可以起跑目前看起來是沒有辦法 |
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目前總預算還沒過啦 希望可以趕快過 趕快起跑啦但是我另外一個希望提醒你的是什麼剛剛那個遊覽車的 油料的成本增加那未來有沒有可能為了平穩物價 平穩這個團 國旅的團價而有所謂的補貼油料政策跟未來的預算編列來補助他們這個是剛剛部長好像在 |
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回答其他委員的時候有提到類似的說法向委員報告目前我們先針對基本民行的這個公共運輸的部分這是第一波那如果真的是有比較長期的影響那第二波委員在建議的這個我們會納入考量來第二波我就會開始提醒你我們現在民眾的生活裡面只要跟油有關係的因為這一次的油料成本提高 |
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跟著物價會可能跟著提高的民眾生活中的網購就是物流國旅、外送、貨運產業相關的貨運我剛剛講的遊覽車、計程車等等這個呢各個工協會也因為成本考量一定會跟交通部來報所有的收費的調漲計畫那這個呢基於穩物價安民心未來第二波是否也能納入這個補貼的考量跟 |
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估預算然後呢拍板定案來做這個穩物價的一個措施我是提供給部長來做這樣子的提醒跟建議啦好不好這些我們都會納入討論是好不好謝謝 |
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何委員欣純 |
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謝謝最認真、最英俊的召委。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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我們請最認真也最英俊的交通部部長。 |
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主席 |
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我們請陳部長。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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部長好。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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部長，我看到你昨天有背著一個儀器，去跟著白沙屯媽祖走路，對不對？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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是，那個是行動氣象儀。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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行動氣象儀？ |
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1 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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就是氣象君，我們氣象署說那個叫氣象君。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:27:24.320000+08:00 |
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OK，為什麼會特地背著那個去走？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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報告委員，因為這次跟著白沙屯媽祖走的人有四十幾萬人，40到60萬這麼多的人，我們希望能夠提供每一分鐘最新的……就是走的過程當中，地面上的溼度、溫度跟它目前的曝曬指數，就是紫外線曬的指數…… |
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何委員欣純 |
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1 |
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包括紫外線。 |
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0 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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對，我們希望每一分鐘提供給所有的信徒，那他們看到這個之後，他們就知道什麼時候應該要想辦法避暑，那什麼時候有可能會下雨，這個部分我們也都會提供資料。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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所以是透過你身上背的那個行動氣象儀，能夠得到這些，我相信現在的科技包括AI、包括數位、包括這些相關的系統整合，所以有這個行動氣象儀，但是透過你背的那一個載具之外，我們沿途都有相關的行動車輛嗎？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:28:22.045000+08:00 |
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還是有建置？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:27.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:34.324000+08:00 |
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它目前就是透過SIM卡之類的通訊機制，從那個機器會直接傳送出來。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:34.484000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:44.390000+08:00 |
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你今天沒有背著它跟著白沙屯媽祖走，那現在跟著白沙屯媽祖走的這46萬信眾們，他又如何得知？ |
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0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:44.950000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:51.174000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們的氣象署同仁真的大家很辛苦，我昨天會下去是因為他們會全程跟著走，我們分幾班…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:52.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:54.836000+08:00 |
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對，我就是要你講出這一句話。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:54.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:55.836000+08:00 |
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他們好辛苦，所以我就下去陪走一段。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:54.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-15T11:28:56.617000+08:00 |
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我們是不是先給他們鼓掌一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-15T11:28:58.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:01.359000+08:00 |
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謝謝，這些同仁真的好辛苦，每一個都曬得非常黑。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:02.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:04.760000+08:00 |
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不過我相信白沙屯媽祖會保佑他們的。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:04.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:05.760000+08:00 |
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是，會保佑我們全民。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:05.220000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:14.685000+08:00 |
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因為他們有這份心，而且我們行政單位可以這麼貼心的來提供這個措施，今年是第一次嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:14.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:15.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
還是往年都有？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:16.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:26.072000+08:00 |
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往年我們是沿途來做氣象的報告跟報導，但我們為了更貼近真正大家體感的溫度跟感受，所以我們今年是第一次用行動氣象儀跟著大家走。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:26.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-15T11:29:57.375000+08:00 |
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好，我也希望未來我們相關的其他單位也能夠第一個，跟得上民眾的日常、跟得上民眾的生活，能夠透過這樣子的一個宗教大盛事，或者是其他領域的大盛事，也可以讓大家感受到政府部門是很貼近民意的，是很貼近民眾生活的，政府部門是很貼心的，好不好？好。 |
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0.991 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-15T11:29:58.095000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-15T11:30:11.101000+08:00 |
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我今天一開始舉這個例子，是因為我昨天看到新聞報導，要先給交通部陳部長，以及所有隨行的人一個大大的鼓勵，尤其是氣象署對不對？謝謝。 |
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0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-15T11:30:11.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-15T11:30:19.937000+08:00 |
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第二，我今天要談物價的問題，因為燃油，今天早上很多委員都在關心這件事。對。 |
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0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-15T11:30:21.398000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-15T11:30:26.021000+08:00 |
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4月7日國際航空的燃油附加費用有調漲，所以國際線的票價有調漲。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-15T11:30:26.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-15T11:30:26.162000+08:00 |
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是，沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-15T11:30:30.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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2026-04-15T11:30:43.788000+08:00 |
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我根據調出的資料，燃油占了所有航空業的營運成本大概兩、三成，所以航空業因為油料飆漲成本大漲、票價飆漲，那一定是轉嫁給旅客。 |
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0.945 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-15T11:30:45.008000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:31:09.396000+08:00 |
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當然因為它叫做國際線，有很多國際航空公司不在我們可以道德勸說或掌控，也不在我們的管轄之內，但我還是希望我們自己國籍的航空，是不是也能夠儘量緩漲、慢慢漲，不要一次漲太大？是。 |
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0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:10.136000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:22.843000+08:00 |
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不過我要先肯定，為了穩物價，我們的油、電是凍漲的，中油吸收了破百億，相對的其實就是政府吸收，電我們也維持凍漲。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:24.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:26.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
跟交通部有關的是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:26.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:29.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
民航的國內票價首度宣布凍漲對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:29.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:30.546000+08:00 |
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是，沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:30.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:31.367000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
請問預估要凍到什麼時候？ |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:34.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:41.014000+08:00 |
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報告委員，因為實際上他的戰爭會發生多久不曉得，沒人知道，那油價會調漲多久也不曉得。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:41.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-15T11:31:49.783000+08:00 |
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我們目前除了短期之內拜託中油來做油價的平穩，之後再由交通部編列預算給中油。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-15T11:31:50.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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2026-04-15T11:32:01.855000+08:00 |
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目前的估算兩個版本，一個是估到12月大概要花多少錢；另外一個是估到明年12月，也就是116年一整年，我們都希望能夠做這樣的控制。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:02.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:08.642000+08:00 |
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目前預算已經有估算出來，不過這個部分還是要看行政院整體的政策，我們的財源要從哪裡來，會做整體的…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:09.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:10.182000+08:00 |
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所以你有A、B方案。對。 |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:10.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:22.047000+08:00 |
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一個是估到今年年底，大概預估交通部補助國內航線的用油量是多少預算，那第二個方案是估到明年12月。是。 |
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0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:23.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:26.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
但這部分是國內航線的用油，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:26.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:27.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
對，沒錯，國內航線。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:27.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:41.581000+08:00 |
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我接著要跟您討論，現在已經看到4月、5月大概不管是哪一個航站，從桃園、臺中、高雄已經有268班的國際航班取消。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:44.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:49.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
那我揣測，我當然不知道是不是這個原因、是不是跟油價飆漲有關係？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:49.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:49.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我為什麼會提到這個？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:49.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:50.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
因為這個取消牽動到的是整個產業跟市場，包括旅遊、觀光等等都有相關性。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:50.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:50.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
以臺中來講5月就減少了18個航班。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-15T11:32:51.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-15T11:32:51.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
這18個航班牽涉到的是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-15T11:33:09.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-15T11:33:17.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
國內外旅客的觀光、餐旅、住宿、運輸、接駁等各產業會受到影響，這個部長知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-15T11:33:18.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-15T11:33:28.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
是，這個我們也都有掌握，包含整個全體，就是臺灣所有國際機場航班的變化狀況，還有臺中機場的變化狀況，我們都在評估當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-15T11:33:29.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-15T11:33:41.519000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
目前航空公司會優先減班，或者是把班次減少或合併的班次，通常都是乘載率比較低的，也就是訂票率不高的才會先做調整，所以實際上…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:42.479000+08:00 |
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我們希望是這樣子啦！對。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:44.100000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:46.100000+08:00 |
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希望是跟油價沒有關係。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:46.100000+08:00 |
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有，跟油價還是有關係。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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也有關係嘛！ |
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何委員欣純 |
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對不對？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:47.921000+08:00 |
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跟油價是有關係，所以他會優先選擇把訂位率相對低的減少，那也就是說訂位率高的影響就…… |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:55.584000+08:00 |
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可是這樣會影響到已經訂位的旅客的權益。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:33:58.485000+08:00 |
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會，所以消費者的權益部分，我們也會來顧及，就是說他該退費或者該做年費的減免等等之類，我們會來跟航空公司溝通。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:34:07.627000+08:00 |
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對，因為這個不是只有航空減班的問題，也不是只有航空公司的營運問題，這牽涉到的還有旅客的消費者權益問題，還包括我們的觀光、餐旅、住宿、運輸、接駁等，各個產業都會受到影響。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:34:25.716000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:34:39.184000+08:00 |
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這個我是希望提早提醒交通部、民航局，包括觀光局，我們應該要針對這樣子的趨勢提早做準備，要有因應的方案。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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因為我們現在對於剛剛講的國內民航機的用油有補助，我們對公共運輸業也有補貼政策，那未來呢？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:34:56.447000+08:00 |
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剛剛部長提到，有估兩個方案是針對民航機國內線的用油補助，可是我們現在看到，您對外講穩物價的85億，再加上整體政府穩定物價的代價是1,292億，財源待籌措。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:11.758000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:21.464000+08:00 |
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這85億是交通部給出來的數字，預估哪些項目？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:21.704000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:22.385000+08:00 |
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到什麼時候？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:22.885000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:24.525000+08:00 |
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用在何處？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:24.525000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:25.766000+08:00 |
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可用到何時？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:25.926000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:36.389000+08:00 |
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如同我剛剛問你的，民航機國內線的用油補貼，你有兩個方案，一個是預估到今年年底，一個方案是預估到明年年底，那你這個85億到底是怎麼估出來的？ |
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1 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:39.359000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:52.487000+08:00 |
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向委員報告，我們其實有分陸、海、空運，空運的部分大概是40億左右；陸運的部分目前估算也差不多接近40億；海運的部分目前估算是差不多6億。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:52.487000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:56.189000+08:00 |
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所以是用整體的海、陸、空，這樣子大概來抓？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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對，海、陸、空整體來抓。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:57.290000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:58.150000+08:00 |
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用在何處？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:35:58.150000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:01.992000+08:00 |
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都只有燃油用油的補貼嗎？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:01.992000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:03.393000+08:00 |
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是，我們都是在用油的補貼沒有錯。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:04.654000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:11.278000+08:00 |
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所以沒有其他受到影響的產業評估，跟未來可能需要補貼的政策嗎？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:11.438000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:19.442000+08:00 |
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向委員報告，因為戰爭發生到會走到什麼樣的階段我們不曉得，所以我們目前的估算是針對公共運輸的部分。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:20.002000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:28.147000+08:00 |
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我們初步先做公共運輸的規劃，其他的部分會預先來看，如果有可能會發生比較長期的影響，我們會來預做規劃。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:28.147000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:29.007000+08:00 |
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好，我就先提一個例子。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:30.728000+08:00 |
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針對公共運輸，你剛剛講的沒錯，你們現在針對公共運輸來估預算，所以行政院已經宣布凍漲，但是剛剛部長有提到，現在因為國外旅遊燃油的成本高，所以國外旅遊的團價、票價成本高就貴，因此應該引導做國旅。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:36:56.002000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:06.046000+08:00 |
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4月份政府有開始補助，2026國旅補助最高領3,200，所以你又鼓勵大家來國旅，但是國旅會牽涉到一個什麼問題？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:06.046000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:12.420000+08:00 |
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公共運輸你有補助了，但是遊覽車、客車呢？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:12.760000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:15.863000+08:00 |
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他們同樣的油料支出就大，成本也會提高。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:16.663000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:23.308000+08:00 |
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他成本提高，團費就會提高，那你的補助3,200會不會變相的也是在提高團費？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:23.308000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:27.532000+08:00 |
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你有沒有想到這樣子一個循環的加成作用？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:28.452000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:41.295000+08:00 |
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報告委員，謝謝你的提醒，這個我們會來注意跟思考，就是說這個補助到底有沒有真正的落實到讓民眾提高他的意願，真正的讓他消費的成本降低，這個我們會來思考。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:41.775000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:47.837000+08:00 |
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不過這個國旅的補助，目前因為總預算還沒過，我們很希望4月可以起跑，但目前看起來是沒有辦法。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:49.237000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:51.518000+08:00 |
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總預算還沒過，希望可以趕快過，趕快起跑！是。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:52.058000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:54.039000+08:00 |
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但是我另外一個希望提醒你的是什麼？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:54.039000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:58.100000+08:00 |
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剛剛那個遊覽車油料的成本增加，那未來有沒有可能為了平穩物價、平穩國旅的團價，而有所謂的補貼油料政策，跟未來的預算編列來補助他們？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:37:58.100000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:38:17.606000+08:00 |
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這個是剛剛部長好像在回答其他委員的時候，有提到類似的說法。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-15T11:38:18.966000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T11:38:28.391000+08:00 |
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目前我們先針對基本民行公共運輸的部分，這是第一波，如果真的是有比較長期的影響，第二波委員建議的遊覽車部分我們會納入考量。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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2026-04-15T11:38:28.931000+08:00 |
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第二波我就會開始提醒你，我們現在民眾的生活裡面只要跟油有關係的，因為這一次的油料成本提高，跟著物價可能跟著提高的民眾生活中的網購，就是物流、國旅、外送、產業相關的貨運，以及我剛剛講的遊覽車、計程車等等，各個公協會也因為成本考量，一定會跟交通部報所謂的收費調漲計畫。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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基於穩物價、安民心，未來第二波是否也能納入這個補貼的考量跟估預算，然後拍板定案來做穩物價的措施？ |
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何委員欣純 |
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我是提供給部長來做這樣子的提醒跟建議，好不好？ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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謝謝委員的建議，這些我們都會納入討論，在第二波的部分會納入討論。 |
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何委員欣純 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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主席 |
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我們謝謝美麗的何委員，謝謝你，祝你心想事成。 |
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主席 |
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接下來我們邀請許智傑委員發言。 |
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