| IVOD_ID |
168557 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168557 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T10:40:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T10:50:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae32c9c05045781dbe8ba64134b0f452f2ef584cb79d4e23178da828a474ca019315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:40:57 - 10:50:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、經濟部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員及農業部就「因應中東情勢，國際油價飆升對於我國陸海空運輸之衝擊評估與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【4月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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好,謝謝召委,是不是請部長好,請陳部長陳部長,恭請陳部長部長今天天氣很好天氣還蠻溫暖蠻溫暖的,馬祖霧很大 |
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這個季節,春天馬祖跟金門霧的機率比較高一些來個雨,太陽一出來,霧很大,雲高也不對,能見度也不行所以最近我們那個新台馬輪發揮很大的作用然後那個小船,南北海運,他的小船500噸也發揮很大的功能把一些旅客、觀光客、我們民眾都運過來 |
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還有那個是不是請一下那個誰?華航董事長,高董事長高董,我們請華航的高董事長高董,我今天要讚美你,你真的好棒棒你當了董事長,我跟謝董很好,我跟你還不是很好後來當然現在也很好了 |
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你不但飛了馬祖,承載了我們的航空然後還要加班,還要再飛一架次禮拜一這個計畫成熟了沒有?現在就等第13架的ATR到了就可以了昨天我們副昆吉總召很緊張你要把花蓮現在油價的因素是不是要停掉?有這個打算嗎? |
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我目前是想說你麥克風拿起來講話跟委員報告一下我們現在希望的就是說在某一些情況之下不要浪費掉那個運能把這個運能放到在那個地面交通沒有辦法到達的像離島啊這個是比較對我們來講對民生來講是應該是比較重要的那個航線目前都還在討論當中 |
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不過基於對委員的尊重,區域委員有他的壓力,還是要溝通協調好不好?是尤其在油料上漲,我一直生怕說你們當然你沒得停了啦,你一個禮拜只有一班嘛對不對?利融的話我就怕他減班啊幹什麼的,當然利融是民間的航空公司啊 |
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所以我覺得高董上來以後,對我們釋出很大的善意好不好?部長,你要不會保養他一下?當然當然好,請回部長講到航空公司,我再提一下昨天國發會有開會,對我們有關相關離島的一些補助很糟糕 |
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昨天就已經否決了不同意了如果部長如果你站在我的角度你是立法委員你站在這裡然後你在那邊審預算那我們很多的預算已經被否決掉了你叫我審預算審什麼預算你叫我審預算審誰的預算我的預算都被你否決掉啦 |
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249.187 |
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那我一定全部都把他砍掉嘛一定是這樣嘛如果是你是不是這樣子如果你是立法委會不會這樣不一定啦看情況不一定喔有嗎你學佛的啊你是哪一教的天主教基督教我找不到這樣的信徒欸是嗎我昨天已經知道你把我地區的預算都已經全部砍掉國防署有沒有來國防署在這邊 |
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249.997 |
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275.654 |
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國防署在哪裡副署長對不起禮報預算全部都砍掉了國防署沒有砍有行銷活動行銷活動及智慧旅遊品質提升計畫離島基金你們要給五千六百萬昨天已經很像就沒了 |
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302.69 |
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現在中央是交通部公安署你們也沒辦法保證那這個契機中間就停擺了嘛停擺了那你要這個基金幹什麼?離島基金啊離島基金你國防會都不給不是只有金門馬祖耶金門馬祖是國民黨的還有澎湖,澎湖是民進黨籍的執政耶這個不能這樣搞嘛 |
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307.885 |
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你這樣審一審叫我怎麼審 |
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我連審都不審啦現在不是馬上要審預算了嗎你這種態度的話你叫我怎麼審得下去像委員報告齁您在說的這個行銷的部分齁是因為馬祖的這個縣政府連江縣政府啦齁他們提出計畫的時間有比較晚一點所以有點來不及不過我們觀光署已經有跟這個國發會這邊來協調過了現在送過來之後我們後續還是會來協助他齁來爭取到這個預算我們要審預算也是延後啦已經 |
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多少天沒審啊報告委員這個部分不用擔心這個部分我們已經跟國發會已經有共識了是當時連江縣政府送的比較慢不是不用擔心我是不吵架啊你不用擔心你講不用擔心你看還有那個與神同行2.0媽祖海巡媽祖平安祈福你們給540萬我們這個60萬都被打回票了都沒有了 |
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391.027 |
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這沒有道理吧委員我剛剛有講過這個也包含在剛剛那個案子裡面我們已經跟國發會有共識了我們後面會來協助他把這個預算好還有上一次我諮詢你大邱那個旅遊活動中心一億多都蓋好了現在第二期機會五千萬我現在蓋了一半蓋了一半房子在那邊等等進度等進度你現在五千萬你不撥那個是我們 |
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420.522 |
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我們縣政府代執行你知道嗎本來這個是官方所要去執行的啦大邱這個沒有問題啦這個部分沒問題總預算過了都不會有問題總預算過了不會有問題對啊不會有問題你說哪裡總預算這一次的大邱說的大邱二期因為財化法的緣故啦其他的不會那等你們預算通過 |
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451.141 |
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沒通過就擺在那邊曬風吹日曬雨淋這好像不是一個政府的態度吧沒通過不能花錢沒通過錢就不能花你站在我的立場你如果是立法委員的話你面對你交通部的預算你怎麼樣去處理它怎麼樣去審它將心比心你想好以後你不要說我拿著刀子在砍你們在殺你們 |
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476.43 |
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這樣合理嗎?報告委員,您剛剛所關心的那個期期的部分,這個行銷的費用我也跟您報告了,現在第三次,這個沒有問題,我們跟國發會已經有共識所以這個不會造成任何問題你只是講其中之一,我剛才跟你講的那只是蓋房子蓋一半還有,航空機駐地備勤的經費補助這裡面牽涉到東影跟那個,你們只補助了多少錢? |
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478.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
479.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
很像只給了2153萬 |
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483.757 |
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512.596 |
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你這影響到舉官跟民眾的交通權益,你回去查一下好不好好,報告委員這個部分我還第一次聽到,那我回去瞭解一下沒關係,你回去查一下好不好報告委員,這個也是因為財化法的因素啦您剛剛在講大邱那個也是財化法的因素,那這個也是一樣就是說錢都是政府的,那現在多一些已經在地方政府了那地方政府就可以負起更大的責任那我們這邊也不會把錢留住,我們能夠花的錢我們一定會補助到地方政府現在的財政部跟主計總處 |
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540.493 |
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一直拿說財化法的問題來空我們全國各縣市財化法都占到便宜唯獨馬祖是負的負的現在財政部給一個正的正的也就幫你平衡而已好啦 那很多錢你們要地方政府去租我地方政府也只是打平而已我沒有賺到錢不像其他各縣市政府 |
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541.881 |
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558.772 |
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金門多了一百多億啊我們沒有多啊,我們一兩億都沒多啊不公平嘛報告委員其實交通部也沒有賺到錢,交通部也是減少的啊那我們只要我們擁有的預算一定會全力來協助地方,這個您放心 |
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561.182 |
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587.481 |
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不是,我沒有去責難你的意思,我是希望就是說你將心比心嘛,你也是立法委員的立場來看待交通部好不好你不要一直站在交通部的立場來看我們立法委員有沒有在那邊胡扯亂扯我沒有欸我對你們是很有善的委員都是為了地方在爭取這個我了解有啊,我也為了你們交通部也在努力啊 |
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588.442 |
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600.137 |
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是不是,每次審議算,我們召委、拒絕委員跟我,你看同事多少年了是不是,好不好謝謝委員那他在說我了齁,時間到了我就不講了好 |