| IVOD_ID |
168555 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168555 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T10:19:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T10:30:18+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae39982c7895eaebc70ba64134b0f452f2ef584cb79d4e2317878ef0510ede47c525ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳清龍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:31 - 10:30:18 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、經濟部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員及農業部就「因應中東情勢，國際油價飆升對於我國陸海空運輸之衝擊評估與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【4月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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主席 請我們交通部 陳部長好 我們請陳部長謝謝 謝謝主席 |
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委員好部長好我想油價雖然我們動漲 油價還是上漲那我們很多通勤族還是以機車做為主要的一個通勤的工具尤其我們上班族但是我們現在 |
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發現有一個狀況就是機車 口罩 靠騎車 靠腳腳我們現在全面改用網路預約結果現在機車 口罩人們去預約 |
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好像啊 比這個要搶這個這個演唱會的門票 還要困難喔我可以報告 這次禮報咧機車口罩 形成網路的一個關鍵字那我們民意代表的服務處啊現在竟然啊 欸 機車口罩竟然會變成民眾啊到服務處啊 尋求啊 陳情協助的一個服務項目喔 |
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那我去了解一下我們從這個表格來看我們採用前面的網路預約好那我們在2023年我們可以來提供給民眾來考照的一個預約的一個名額的額度 |
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有35萬人左右但是啊到2024年就整個遞減2025更遞減到28萬人整個名額啊下降讓民眾整個為了考驗照像我們要去那一國外請就要去找要去預約然後又預約不到我們不是要鼓勵我們所有的 |
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國民我們要安全駕駛我們要取得駕駛執照之後才能夠安全上路嗎但是這個口罩為什麼會變成這麼困難保障力感才是民生最迫切的一個問題我最近其實也密集跟公路局在討論這個問題 |
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因為確實民眾已經有反應而且不是一小段時間已經好幾個月都有反應這樣的現象那我們不應該讓民眾在考照的過程當中遇到這樣的困難不應該啊這個事實就是存在像委員報告他其實預約制已經施行10年從105年到現在所以問題不在預約制 |
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是我們這個供給的部分可能不符合現在的需求那我有要求這個公路局在短時間之內我們先做一個措施讓他可以成長10%的這個提供的名額過去的網路預約沒問題為何近兩年會產生這樣的問題 |
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這個要檢討啊 那我也有去了解 最重要因為現在整個預約大家去搶 那會變成就像搶門票一樣嘛大家都要搶 大家都去搶你知道嗎那你一搶 你就會發覺 他只要搶到 他就登錄 對不對但是時間到了 他不去 他不去考 |
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就是這樣的一個報名,預約到的名額,就變成被浪費掉了大家都,我們說,南韓話叫做,上秋,上夜,上晨,上夜嘛他就去站了,站了到時候時間到了,他就缺考,結果這些名額 |
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就沒辦法來適時的使用嘛我們從去年的一個報考人數我們來看28萬9千人的報考只有21萬8千人去真正的倒考有7萬1千人根本沒有去也就是啊 大家看不看得到四分之一的人根本沒去考 |
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不去考 大家就出事 產生這麼嚴重的問題所以在這樣的情況 想考的人沒辦法去考 報的名的人不去考產生這樣的一個網路 預約的黑洞在那裡 |
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這個部分我們有檢討要怎麼處理嗎謝謝委員關心您所關心的這個議題其實我們之前有檢討過那在之前1月之前今年1月之前報考率是75%我們檢討完換了新機制之後現在的報考率是到97%已經到97%了但是目前的情況能夠釋出的名額會更多 |
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有能夠來提 讓到考慮啊整個提升就是我們的要求嘛 對不對因為我們的能量一直在低減 我剛剛有講嘛我們提供的能量 民耳一直在低減那你到考慮一定要提升啊不然民眾的有一個埋怨啊 |
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還是存在 像委員報告一方面倒考率提升那二方面我會讓整體的可以考的名額再提升 名額要增加我這邊就有提出建議了我希望倒考率的名額要釋出那要滾 |
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滾動的一個檢討你讓民眾要考一個技術的教學變成困難這個就一定要處理要檢討了好不好我們公路局也在這邊我們希望一起來讓民眾能夠有考個駕照能夠更方便好不好那接下來我在這邊也要討論提出一個 |
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建議我們現在反正油價上漲我們通勤組運用大眾運輸工具的一個情況越來越多尤其高鐵台北台中南部台北這樣的一個用高鐵來通勤的一個比例人數越來越多 |
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那我在這邊我有發覺我們高鐵這邊有一個這個票制彈性不夠彈性不夠它在郵費方面它只有兩種一個叫經濟票一個叫回溯票那前陣子我們高鐵有在 |
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討論這個票價的調漲嘛 要調整當然目前因為中東戰爭因素還有整個帕海這個漲價影響我們的一個通貨膨脹我相信高鐵是不會漲價 不會漲價但是啊 它過去我們在定期票的部分它過去 希望去到崗位省 |
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那二十天下去算就是禮拜六禮拜天不算了一天兩天它的折扣算起來應該在一萬三千兩百三十塊後來現在就改成只有一種定期票一天二十天改成三十天存一張存一張那一張下去處理就變成了 |
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他的定期票會變成我這個是以台中跟台北為例子台中跟台北一天兩座來說你該做三十天來算我的定期票一個月就要花到一千九百多一萬九千八百四十五塊以我台北台中這樣來算所以其實這裡就有變相的一個調漲價格就通情主來 |
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來講 我原來的定期票我改中再改半我一公尺百分之一萬三現在都要變成一萬九另外一種又會就叫做回溯票我們來看回溯票回溯票你目前只有兩種一種是三十天的十次八二折另外一種是六十天的八次九二折所以我們剛才要給我們顧提供的就是定期票你調成從 |
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二十天的調整三十天只有一種變相漲價第二個你的回溯票你只有一個三十天做十趟的八二折六十天做八趟九二折那我在這邊我建議因為我每天也是一樣這個台中台北這樣同情我們的建議就是我在這邊提出建議回溯票的制度 |
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是不是可以來增加回書票你目前30天只有10張你能不能來研議啊我比如說我一個月內40張還是20天內40張那個折扣數啊你可以從原來的92折82折去調整成類似我建議的65折讓這個 |
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彈性 優惠的彈性更多讓通勤組的民眾更方便來使用這也是因應我們票價未來可能挑戰的一個方案在這裡是不是請交通部長還是我們高鐵局這邊能夠做一個高鐵公司這邊做個回應 |
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謝謝委員您剛剛說的那個條帳的部分目前都不是真正在落實的方案其實高鐵各種方案都在滾動檢討委員您現在在建議的這個20日40次的這個部分我們也請高鐵公司把它納入檢討的範圍裡面我們來討論看有沒有這樣的可能性您的說法沒有錯啦 |
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讓他更有彈性讓這個通勤組有更有彈性更多的選擇讓我們的票價定期票回溯票這樣的一個優惠能夠更有彈性那目前其實也有其他的委員有其他的建議包含30天跟60天中間再差一個 |
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那彈性是正確的了所以現在高鐵公司也有在做檢查高鐵公司應該更加的靈活啦好不好所以以後為了一個制度更加的靈活這是我的建議好 以上 謝謝 |