| IVOD_ID |
168529 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168529 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T09:55:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T10:03:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae324b5f269ff50219261f404ecbec9cddc25bca6d85ad377fffae877f5b75d87c95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:42 - 10:03:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍、經濟部報告「美伊戰爭情勢發展對亞太戰略局勢及經濟安全之影響」，併請國家發展委員會列席，並備質詢。） |
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我們是請外交部、經濟部、國營司跟能源署請以上部會人員就備訓台,謝謝早今天這個召委安排這個會議很好可是我看兩個單位寫的報告很差很差啦 |
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我先講經濟部啊,經濟部裡面的寫法好像都沒問題啊都沒問題,你們裡面所有用的說法,完全都沒事,是這樣嗎?這美伊戰爭對美伊之間這些事情,對我們來說完全沒事耶你們裡面用的文字啊,看不出你們在煩惱,是這樣嗎? |
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包委員 其實美義戰爭剛剛有提到它對全球整個油品市場的影響其實真的對國內的能源供應廠造成一定的壓力你說的這句話要說一堆我們在前面的在第一段部分有特別提到這個整個全球...你們後面的所有的政府協助因應沒有任何一個啊你全部都說什麼台灣供應鏈怎麼樣都怎麼樣啊這一個你們會持續的這個關心怎麼樣怎麼樣那為什麼沒有事情啊 |
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因為這次題目主要是講那個亞太經濟跟經濟安全所以我們就比較沒有琢磨在能源安全在我們這幾天極力在確保所以你說美伊站在你們的立場美伊這樣的事情對我們的經濟安全站在你們經濟部的立場整本報告看起來都沒問題都沒問題 都沒完了有 其實在能源安全部分有一定的價值看不出來啊看不出來啊你們哪一段告訴國會人說這個美伊的事情對我們的經濟安全有很大的影響哪一句 |
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對一句國營私人元素來來來你都沒疫情你都覺得這沒事對你都沒營養是這樣嗎包委真的是有影響所以我們有影響你的報告都看不出來 |
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因為我們著重在整個亞太戰略的部分所以那部分委員需要資料我們可以再補充給委員今天召委安排這個會是要來聽你們講這些的是不是你們要跟國人講啊這對我們的經濟安全有什麼影響啊是你們現在還在說半導體 還在說供應鏈是不是這樣吧 這報告報告這麼晚才送來送來的東西怎麼看都沒藥沒金 |
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這樣這陣子期間所有的商業在煩惱著油了 起起來 油了 起起來後面連帶的 大家營養到的你們這樣看 沒藥沒金啊這樣對不對 |
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各位這一部分是要因為我們其實在另外的報告裡面其實一直很強調我們在穩定能源供應這一塊經濟部跟整體政府的作為那這一塊可能在今天報告裡面我們沒有把它強調所以我們之後會再來做補充你想要表達你們很煩惱的叫大家交費商業給大家提供一下要補中油跟中油拜託一下 |
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不要去,這個表達,不是說這幾本報給我們看,我們不關的都站在旁邊看來,外交部,你們的報告裡頭啊,羅列了這一次的事情,各國啊 |
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不管是這個個別的國家,個別的元首,個別他們派出去的代表,或者區域性的這些組織啊,對這個事情的關心,有情形起的,有卡定的,你們都留下來了,中華民國外交部,在這件事裡面做什麼事情? |
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是,我們在中東戰事發生之後,我們就開始成立小組我們每天會開會,能夠實時的因應因應了什麼?來,因應了什麼?我們護橋優先,護橋優先所以我們在戰事期間,我們同時要求駐外的管處全力的協助國人 |
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你這個吳小齋這上面有報過過你們大概每週多少國人因為現在要留在那裡為你協助從別的國家離開對不對然後跟一些團說你不要再去那裡玩對不對你都有做我知道在經濟安全這個事情外交部做什麼事情報告我們現在這個經濟安全的部分主要是第一個是說收集相關的資訊跟這個經濟部密切配合你的收集資訊啊是 |
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我們如果外交部還是主導的一個機關他們如果有需要我們通過外交的手段有什麼需要外交部幫忙 |
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報告委員跟外交部合作部分當然就是第一個掌握其他國家在因應那個中情中戰爭的一個策略然後他們實際國內的一個影響狀況來跟國內來做比較另外當然我們會有一些需要轉移從中東進口來源的轉移部分然後會透過外交部來協助有沒有跟其他國家進口的可能性 |
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外交部給我們卸的經濟部你有看過嗎?有你有看過其他國家做什麼事情嗎?有你就需要外交部去做什麼事情嗎?我們在行政院內部我們跟外交部跟其他部會都有持續的一個合作不是合作啦,我說外交部裡面有卸,卸很多國家他們透過各種的管道,有清新的,有卡電話的,有等待的,拜託的 |
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我們經濟部,叫外交部,請外交部說你們可以派什麼人,去跟什麼人說什麼事情你們經濟部有沒有提出這個要求啦不是我們外交部,外交部收集,叫外管去收集資訊回來來大家行政院來開會,他們報告之後經濟部拜託外交部說,我們現在需要你們去跟我們倒傻講什麼事情有沒有提出這個需求啦 |
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我想有啦經濟部這個要求在這個相關的能源調度上當然他們才掌握價格嘛比如說今天天然氣必須要從澳洲從這個加拿大從美國來調貨現貨上面我們要去協調是不是這個東西同時我們提供給這個經濟部相關的評估這個戰事就我們的了解從美方掌握的資訊從這個日方所掌握的資訊其他的這個理念相信國家掌握的資訊還會再持續多久那是不是要做稍微長期的規劃 |
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那以及長期規劃裡面是不是需要透過因為說實在現在大家都在搶貨那我們現在是不是能夠透過外交的一個努力我們可以加拿大我現在就問你有沒有啊是有戰爭上面是有有啦好啦你如果真的這個會議你沒辦法說就說有就好了啦是阿不然你那行政院叫這麼多部委來去阿你報告之後他們聽到以後說我們沒事情我聽到以後就報告你來看這報告裡面沒有一句緊張的那時候我們沒事情呢這樣會不會通 |
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拜託啦,你們這經濟部喔,你們這樣為了中間有賣企業,這樣去賣到要死你也表達一下,說你有什麼歡樂,叫大家體諒一下叫我們國內體諒一下,大家補貼一下,沒有耶今天早上拜這個節目,想說這經濟部判定來,我們這個外交國防來報告一下結果你們搞這個東西來,這是看起來就不好啊 |
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467.242 |
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483.763 |
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謝謝委員提醒其實進一步一直持續有在對社會說明我們對中油相關協助需要大家的支持所以要謝謝委員的支持好啦加油啦拜託啦你不可以這樣報時不報休啦大家都在歡樂啊你怎麼看人家都說沒壓沒緊啦好不好好謝謝感謝委員 |
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王委員義川 |
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好，謝謝主席，請外交部、經濟部國營司跟能源署。 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-15T09:55:48.192000+08:00 |
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請以上部會人員就備詢台，謝謝。 |
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0.846 |
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陳次長明祺 |
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1 |
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委員早。早。 |
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0.25 |
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王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-15T09:55:48.212000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:55:53.535000+08:00 |
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今天召委安排這一個會議很好，可是我看兩個單位寫的報告很差、很差啦！ |
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0.967 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:56:09.777000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:56:23.403000+08:00 |
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我先講經濟部，經濟部的寫法好像都沒事、你們裡面所有用的說法完全都沒事，是這樣嗎？ |
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0.972 |
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王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:23.403000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:56:28.466000+08:00 |
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美伊戰爭、美伊之間這些事情對我們來說完全沒事？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:29.386000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-15T09:56:32.728000+08:00 |
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你們裡面用的文字看不出你們有在煩惱，是這樣嗎？ |
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0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:36.389000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:56:44.011000+08:00 |
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報告委員，剛才有提到美伊戰爭對全球整個油品市場的影響，其實真的對國內的能源供應商造成一定的壓力。 |
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0.822 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:44.311000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-15T09:56:44.871000+08:00 |
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你說的這句話寫在哪裡？ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:46.671000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-15T09:56:50.852000+08:00 |
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我們在前面第一段有特別提到全球…… |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-15T09:56:51.012000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:00.654000+08:00 |
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你們後面所有的政府協助因應，沒有任何一個……你寫的全部就是臺灣供應鏈怎樣又怎樣，你們會持續關心怎樣又怎樣，好像都沒什麼事。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:07.018000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:12.320000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，因為這次題目主要是講亞太經濟跟經濟安全，所以我們就比較沒有著墨在能源安全。 |
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0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:13.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:14.741000+08:00 |
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我們這幾天極力在確保能源供應…… |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:14.901000+08:00 |
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所以站在你們經濟部的立場，美伊戰爭這些事情對我們的經濟安全，從整本報告看起來都沒事？ |
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0.795 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:22.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:25.505000+08:00 |
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都不用煩惱？ |
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0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:25.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:27.166000+08:00 |
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有，其實在能源安全部分有一定的壓力。 |
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0.875 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:27.346000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:29.366000+08:00 |
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看不出來、看不出來啊！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:29.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:35.369000+08:00 |
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你們哪一段告訴國人，說美伊戰爭的事情對我們的經濟安全有很大的影響？ |
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0.935 |
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王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:35.369000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:35.589000+08:00 |
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哪一句？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:36.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-15T09:57:36.551000+08:00 |
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哪一句？ |
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0.667 |
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王委員義川 |
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國營司、能源署來、來、來，你們都沒有預警，你們都覺得這沒事，對你們都沒有影響，是這樣嗎？ |
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0.639 |
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莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:37.211000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:37.571000+08:00 |
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報告委員，真的是有影響，所以我們…… |
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0.786 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:37.571000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:57:37.792000+08:00 |
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有影響，但你們的報告都看不出來？ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-15T09:57:56.096000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:02.398000+08:00 |
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因為我們著重在整個亞太戰略的部分，如果那部分委員需要資料，我們可以再補充給委員。 |
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0.946 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:02.398000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:03.339000+08:00 |
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不是，今天召委安排這個會是要請你們來講這些的嗎？ |
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0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:03.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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2026-04-15T09:58:05.059000+08:00 |
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你們要跟國人講這對我們的經濟安全有什麼影響。是。 |
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1 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:05.079000+08:00 |
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你們在報告裡面還在說半導體、還在說供應鏈，不是這樣吧？ |
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0.833 |
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王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:05.559000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:34.289000+08:00 |
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報告這麼晚才送來，送來的東西看起來都不是很要緊，這段期間所有的產業在煩惱石油如果漲價，後面連帶影響到大家的部分，你們看起來都無關緊要？ |
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0.581 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-04-15T09:58:35.691000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-15T09:58:35.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
這樣對嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-15T09:58:40.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-15T09:58:55.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
這部分的資料，我們其實在另外的報告裡面一直很強調，在穩定能源供應這一塊及經濟部和整體政府的作為，這部分可能我們在今天的報告裡面沒有強調它，所以之後會再做相關的補充。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-15T09:58:56.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:13.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
你們應該是要表達你們很煩惱，叫大家、叫產業界要一起體諒一下，同時也要補貼中油，拜託中油不要漲價，不是讓人看完這整本報告後，都認為這件事和我們沒有關係，站在旁邊看就好。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.48 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:13.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:39.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
接下來我要請教外交部，外交部的報告裡頭羅列了這一次的事情，各國不管是個別的國家、個別的元首、個別派出去的代表或者區域性的組織對這個事情的關心，有親自去的、有打電話的，你們都羅列出來，中華民國外交部在這裡面做了什麼事情？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:42.417000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:43.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們在中東戰事發生之後，我們就開始成立小組，每天會開會，能夠及時因應，同時…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:43.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
因應了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.317000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
因應了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.317000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我們護僑優先。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-15T09:59:44.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-15T09:59:45.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
所以我們在戰事期間，要求駐外的館處全力協助國人…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:06.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:16.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
關於護僑你們上次有報告過，大概每週協助多少國人，有些要留在那裡的，有些是你們協助從別的國家離開，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.646 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:16.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:20.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
然後跟一些團說不要再去那裡旅遊，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:20.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:21.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這你們都有做，我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:22.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:25.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
有關經濟安全這方面，外交部有做什麼事情？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:26.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:33.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
報告，我們現在針對經濟安全的部分，第一個主要是蒐集相關的資訊，跟經濟部密切配合。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:33.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:34.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
你們就是蒐集資訊而已？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:37.570000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:42.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
外交部還是一個主導機關，他們如果有需要，我們透過外交的手段…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:42.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:44.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
經濟部有什麼需要外交部幫忙？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:46.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-15T10:00:58.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
報告委員，跟外交部合作的部分，當然第一個就是掌握其他國家因應中東戰爭的策略，及他們國內實際的影響狀況並跟國內比較。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.849 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-15T10:00:58.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:07.613000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
另外，當然我們會有一些需要從中東進口來源的轉移部分，會透過外交部來協助是否有跟其他國家進口的可能性。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:07.613000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:11.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
你們有看到外交部今天寫的報告嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.267 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:11.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:12.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
外交部今天寫的報告，經濟部你們有看過嗎？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.474 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:13.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:16.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
你有看到其他國家做什麼事情嗎？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:17.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:19.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你們有需要外交部去做什麼事情嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:20.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:25.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
在行政院內部我們跟外交部和其他部會都有持續合作，因為行政院有個平台…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:26.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:44.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
不是合作啦，我說外交部的報告裡面有寫很多國家透過各種管道，有親自去的、有打電話、有遇到時拜託的，經濟部有請外交部可以派什麼人去跟什麼人說什麼事情嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.809 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:44.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:46.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
你們經濟部有沒有提出這個要求啦？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-15T10:01:46.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-15T10:01:53.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
不是都推給外交部，外交部在外館蒐集資訊回來，大家在行政院開會，他們報告完，經濟部拜託外交部說：我們現在需要你們去幫助我們做什麼事情，有沒有提出這個需求？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:02.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:40.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
有的，經濟部在相關的能源調度上，當然他們才掌握價格，比如今天天然氣必須要從澳洲、加拿大、美國調貨，現貨上面我們就要去協調；同時我們也提供經濟部相關的評估，就我們的了解，從美方掌握的資訊、從日方掌握的資訊、從其他理念相近國家所掌握的相關資訊，評估這個戰事還會再持續多久、是不是要做稍微長期的規劃，以及長期規劃裡面是不是需要透過……因為說實在的，現在大家都在搶貨，我們現在是不是能夠透過外交的努力，我們跟加拿大…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:40.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:41.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:40.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:40.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我現在就問你有沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:41.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:41.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
有，在這上面是有。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:41.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:43.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
有，好，如果真的這個會期你們沒辦法講，就說有就好了。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-15T10:02:43.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-15T10:02:46.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
不然行政院叫這麼多部會來開會，你們報告完，現在他們聽了都說沒事，聽完之後，你看這個報告，這個報告裡面沒有一句在緊張，好像都沒事一樣，這樣說得通嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:02.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:10.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
拜託，你們經濟部為了中油不漲價被罵得要死，你們也表達一下你們也在煩惱，叫大家體諒一下、叫國內體諒一下，大家補貼一下，但是你們沒有這樣做。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.672 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:11.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:15.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
今天召委排訂這個題目，我想經濟部難得來我們外交及國防委員會報告，結果你們交這個東西來，看起來就沒用啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.681 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:29.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:37.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
謝謝委員提醒，其實經濟部一直持續有在對社會說明我們對中油相關的協助需要大家的支持，所以也要謝謝委員的支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:37.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:37.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
好，加油！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:38.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:45.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
拜託，你們不要報喜不報憂，大家都在煩惱，你們怎麼看起來都無關緊要，好不好？謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳次長明祺 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:45.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:45.763000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
感謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
莊主任秘書銘池 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:46.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:47.977286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
謝謝委員。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-15T10:03:48.277286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-15T10:03:52.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
接下來請陳冠廷召委上臺質詢，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |