| IVOD_ID |
168372 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168372 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T11:12:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T11:22:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc71d903834ca75b94aff16f9abdda18f34775daf206319287715f377d25edfc7d75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:12:30 - 11:22:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、公平交易委員會代理主任委員、衛生福利部首長、法務部首長及行政院消費者保護處首長就「中東衝突加劇市場不確定性，致國內包括乙烯、塑膠、化肥、瀝青等石化原物料及物流成本增加，屢傳缺料、囤貨現象等之問題評估、因應策略與現況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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委員諮詢好謝謝主席有請現在是江市長請江市長請江市長懲罰署邱署長邱署長 |
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委員好這個請教第一個問題啊你大概有沒有印象你一天使用多少塑膠袋這時間很寶貴報告委員因為各大商圈還有市場我是問您啊我是問你一天使用多少塑膠袋我一天大概有時候用不到一個那那個教授長 |
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我一個禮拜大概用頂多兩個現在公益樣式多少你知道嗎一個人啊一週有30個塑膠袋以上那兩位因為是女性跟男性你們生活習慣都不會使用塑膠袋包括我本人我都不使用塑膠袋這一波的這個從你們報告來看啊這一波的這個 |
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原物料的上漲主要是這個石化的乙烯原料從二月份開始漲了100%對不對所以乙烯原料上漲只會影響整個供應鏈的供需的問題因為要上漲很合理他可能就會減產嘛你越生產越多他越賠的越多對不對所以從這個情況來看啊 |
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這個日本跟韓國有沒有跟台灣有類似的狀況有沒有去了解一下這是全世界都面臨以西原料上漲上漲五度也一樣那日本韓國有沒有發生類似的狀況就我所知韓國也有垃圾袋短缺的問題就垃圾袋嘛那一般生活的這些使用塑膠袋沒有嘛日本沒有嘛 |
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一樣是原物料上漲以及原料上漲為什麼台灣出現這個問題來接著請這個今天所有列席的單位包括公民會保護部消保會請稱出位行政院消保處請消保處你們的報告啊我全部都看過來你們報告都寫得很清楚結果是怎麼樣我想請問第一個經濟部 |
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你們調查結果有沒有囤積違法的狀況我們是成立這個聯合稽查小組有聯合稽查小組去查但是我們查的結果如何呢那你要掌握是署長還是誰這個誰召集人法務部跟公平會在做查我們也有派員主席那你了解經濟部主管機關你們了解有沒有違法的狀況或者囤積的情勢 |
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目前是沒有查到沒有查到來公民會代理主委當然就聯合囤貨聯合拒絕出貨部分我們是沒有查到沒有查到好保護有沒有查到有違法的狀況囤借行刑有沒有 |
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目前聯合機場的部分是沒有發現但是各地檢署還有還在查目前你們掌握保護部掌握是沒有違法的情勢也沒有囤積的狀況來另外一個消保會消保署報告委員我們也是聯機小組的議員那目前情況跟剛剛一樣目前沒有查到特別的情況最後農業部 |
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農業部有關的包材的部分那基本上他們反映的是價格上漲但是他們本身還是照原來預定的這些期程去購買那並沒有即將限制所以我整理出你們調查的這個的項目調查的這個狀況那調查的結果全部都五個單位全部都沒有違法的形式也沒有不法的形式也沒有囤積的形式那到底這個在亂什麼到底在亂什麼 |
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這個整個供應鏈啊當然非常清楚這個中油啊中油今天有沒有代表來董事長你中油以西市經濟部協調你中油那個事情要提早對不對好你4月份會增加1.9萬噸從6萬變成7.95月份再加1.1萬噸 |
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到90萬噸對不對到9萬噸9萬噸9萬噸那你以息會不會因為增產你也了解形象不因為原物料上漲100%對不對那因為政策需要經濟部協調你要增加產量 |
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| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
這從公司的盈虧來看會了解嗎跟委員報告我們乙烯的跟下游客戶的價格是按照契約的計價公司去計算你們報告有說平價供應平價的乙烯你的價格是受到一定的限制是1.9萬噸的增產問你結果你的增產會不會造成公司的虧損 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
348.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
356.881 |
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呃不會啦應該不至於你評價的話你增加評價意思我理解應當就是價格有控制對不對那你原物料你以前原物料是上了100%但是你賠錢但是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
361.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
382.448 |
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這個要解決問題當然我們必須要接受對不對就是我跟委員報告就是主要是增產的部分大部分都是按照契約的價格去計算是不是增產之後就可以滿足國內中下游的這個需求是是是那另外據以息的部分這個經濟部也協調台塑台塑也增產了那台塑有違法嗎我覺得他配合政府的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
391.598 |
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414.283 |
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可以說廖局是行善的為了要解決問題他配合經濟部的政策去供應去增加他的這個供應量他哪裡違法法務部有違法嗎因為是個案的部分可能廖局那邊有立一個案子在這個你從常識來判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
417.957 |
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445.993 |
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這個原物料上漲一般合理的狀況就是適度的減產不影響到供需的狀況對不對所以你們必須要查明勿枉勿重不要說這個為台灣經濟發展貢獻很大的一個台灣知名企業會受到這種我配合政策還要被查 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
447.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
469.986 |
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我個人覺得要好好查清楚不要對台數誤解或者造成對他們的傷害另外今天將市長來我覺得你可以用市長的身份各位請先回座市長我建議你可以用市長的身份去一趟日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
471.277 |
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488.16 |
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不會所有人都可以去日本嗎?我希望你去見一下日本經產省就CPTPP的議題啊你要主帥要親征啊也許秘魯你去不了 智利你去不了我可以幫你去 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
490.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
516.351 |
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但國內你到這個東南亞你越南可以去吧我們劉仕中大使也在那邊同志引導在新加坡你也可以去吧你要跟前線作戰我們跟新加坡談得怎麼樣我們跟越南談得怎麼樣問來你們也要去啊你要親自去他們才有壓力才有動力我們才能掌握如果你不去我就請所有大使回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
519.176 |
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543.333 |
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報告委員我們非常關注CPTPP的執行進展像我前年有去秘魯我們也跟秘魯的相關我是上個月去你前年這個已經實況環境轉變太大了你剛剛指示的其他的國家我會盡力的去安排我覺得利用這個關鍵時候年底就要召開這個部長會議今年是越南市輪值主席國 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
545.518 |
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573.308 |
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這個關鍵年 機遇年他相對有機會成立台灣的陸會工作小組往後就是馬來西亞可能就是這個到英國可能是四年之後的事情所以今年如果不好好把握 你知道我2021是我召開記者會呼籲經濟部要台灣要趕快申請加入CPTPP結果第二天老共跑去申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
576.192 |
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597.369 |
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我是要你們趕快動作要快一點 積極一點 全力投入一點所以如果你們再沒有太積極的話我會把所有的這個大使 全部都找回來就12個國家來報告這個說明跟駐在國他們的這個談判情形跟接下狀況好 以上 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-04-09T11:12:49.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-04-09T11:12:49.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-04-09T11:12:49.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-04-09T11:12:52.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
有請江次長、產發署邱署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-09T11:12:52.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-04-09T11:12:55.484000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
請江次長、邱署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:01.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:02.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:04.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:08.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
次長，請教第一個問題，你有沒有印象一天使用多少塑膠袋？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:14.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:17.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
報告委員，因為各大商圈還有市場…… |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:17.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:21.008000+08:00 |
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我是問您，我是問你一天使用多少塑膠袋？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:21.108000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:25.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
我有時候一天大概用不到一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:25.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:25.692000+08:00 |
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邱署長？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
邱署長求慧 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:26.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:29.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
我一個禮拜大概頂多用兩個。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:29.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:31.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
現在供應量是多少，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:31.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:35.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
一個人在一週內用30個塑膠袋以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:36.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-09T11:13:44.261000+08:00 |
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兩位，一位是女性跟男性，你們生活習慣都不會使用塑膠袋，包括我本人都不使用塑膠袋。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-09T11:13:47.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:01.710000+08:00 |
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從你們報告來看，這一波原物料的上漲，主要是石化的乙烯原料，從2月份開始漲了100%，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:01.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:16.858000+08:00 |
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所以乙烯原料上漲就會影響整個供應鏈的供需問題，原料上漲很合理，它可能就會減產，如果生產越多，賠的就越多，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:16.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:25.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
所以從這個情況來看，日本跟韓國有沒有跟臺灣有類似的狀況？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:25.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:26.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
有沒有去了解一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:27.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:36.437000+08:00 |
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全世界都面臨乙烯原料上漲，上漲幅度也一樣，日本、韓國有沒有發生類似的狀況？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:36.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:40.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
就我所知，韓國也有垃圾袋短缺的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:40.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:45.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
就只有垃圾袋嘛，一般生活上所使用的塑膠袋是沒有，日本沒有嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:46.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-09T11:14:52.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
一樣是原物料上漲、乙烯原料上漲，為什麼臺灣出現這個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-09T11:14:52.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:02.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
接著請今天所有列席單位，包括公平會、法務部、消保會、行政院消保處及農業部。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.781 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:02.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:05.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
請陳主委、消保處及各單位。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:05.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:15.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
你們的報告我全部都看過，報告都寫得很清楚，結果是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:15.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:23.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
第一個，我想請問經濟部，你們調查結果有沒有違法囤積的狀況？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:23.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:29.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
我們成立聯合稽查小組，由聯合稽查小組去查察，但是我們有跟…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:29.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:29.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
查的結果如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:31.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:31.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
你要掌握啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:32.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:35.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
是署長還是誰？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:35.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:35.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
是誰召集的？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:35.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:38.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
現在是法務部跟公平會在查，我們也有派員出席。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:40.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:43.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
主管機關經濟部，據你們了解有沒有違法的狀況或者有囤積的情事？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:46.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:47.662000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
目前是沒有查到。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:48.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:51.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
請公平會代理主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳代理主任委員志民 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:52.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:56.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
當然就聯合囤貨、聯合拒絕出貨部分，我們是沒有查到。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:56.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:57.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
法務部，有沒有查到違法的狀況？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-09T11:15:57.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-09T11:15:57.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
有沒有囤積的情形？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
李專門委員貞慧 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:04.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:09.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
目前聯合稽查的部分是沒有發現，但是各地檢署還在查。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:10.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:15.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
目前法務部掌握是沒有違法之情事，也沒有囤積的狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:15.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:15.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
另外，請消保處。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
鍾處長瑞蘭 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:18.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:23.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
報告委員，我們也是聯稽小組的一員，目前情況跟剛剛其他單位一樣，沒有查到特別的情況，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.795 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:23.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:24.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
好，最後農業部。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:27.715000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:37.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
農業部有關包材的部分，基本上他們反映價格有上漲，但是他們本身還是照原來預定的期程去購買，並沒有跡象顯示。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:38.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:52.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我整理出你們調查項目、調查狀況，調查結果是五個單位全部都說沒有違法情事、沒有不法情事，也沒有囤積的情事，到底這個在亂什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:52.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:52.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
到底在亂什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:59.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:07.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
整個供應鏈當然非常清楚……中油今天有沒有代表來？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:07.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:08.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
董事長。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:08.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:12.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
方董事長。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:12.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:17.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
乙烯是經濟部協調中油四輕要提早開爐，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:18.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:31.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
4月份會增加1.9萬噸，從6萬變成7.9，5月份再加1.1萬噸，會到90萬噸，對不對？9萬噸。9萬噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:31.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:34.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你乙烯會不會因為增產而導致你會賠錢生產嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.45 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:38.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:50.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
因為原物料上漲100%，政策需要經濟部協調你要增加產量，這從公司的盈虧來看會賠錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:50.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-09T11:17:58.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
跟委員報告，乙烯跟下游客戶的價格是按照契約的計價公式去計算…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-09T11:17:59.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:00.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
不是，你們報告有說平價供應……對。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:00.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:03.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
平價的乙烯，這代表你的價格是受到一定的限制，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:03.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:04.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
1.9萬噸的增產，其中…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:04.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:05.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我問你結果，你這增產會不會造成公司虧損嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:18.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:18.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
不會啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:18.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:19.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
應該不至於。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:21.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:34.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
平價意思我理解，應當就是價格可以控制，但是乙烯原物料漲了100%，如果你賠錢是為了要解決問題，當然我們必須要接受，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:35.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:40.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
要跟委員報告，主要增產的部分大部分都是按照契約的價格去計算，只有5,000萬噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:40.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:45.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
是不是增產之後就可以滿足國內中下游需求？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:45.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:45.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
是、是、是。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:46.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-09T11:18:50.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
另外聚乙烯的部分，經濟部也協調台塑，台塑也增產了，台塑有違法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:50.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-09T11:19:13.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我覺得他配合政府政策，可以說是賠錢生產，為了要解決問題，他配合經濟部的政策去增加他的供應量，他哪裡違法？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-09T11:19:15.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-09T11:19:19.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
法務部，有違法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
李專門委員貞慧 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-09T11:19:19.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-09T11:19:23.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
因為這是個案的部分，可能調查局有立案在查。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-09T11:19:23.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:06.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
你從常識來判斷，原物料上漲，一般合理狀況就適度地減產，不影響到供需狀況，所以你們必須要查明、勿枉勿縱，不要讓一個為臺灣經濟發展貢獻很大的臺灣知名企業配合了政策還要被查，我個人覺得要好好查清楚，不要對台塑誤解或者造成對他們的傷害。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:12.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:13.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
各位請先回座，留次長。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:16.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:33.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
次長，我建議你可以用次長的身分去一趟日本，部會首長都可以去日本嘛，我希望你去見一下日本經產省，就CPTPP的議題……你主帥要親征啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:34.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:43.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
也許秘魯你去不了、智利你去不了，我可以幫你去，但是國內……你到東南亞，你越南可以去吧？可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:45.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:49.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
劉世忠大使在那邊，童振源大使在新加坡，你也可以去吧？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:50.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-09T11:20:56.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
你要了解前線作戰狀況，我們跟新加坡談得怎麼樣、跟越南談得怎麼樣，汶萊你們也要去啊！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-09T11:20:58.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-09T11:21:03.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
你要親自去他們才有壓力，有壓力才有動力，我們才能掌握。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-09T11:21:04.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-09T11:21:06.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
如果你不去，我就請所有大使回來。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-09T11:21:09.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-09T11:21:17.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
報告委員，我們非常關注CPTPP的執行進展，像我前年有去秘魯，我們也跟秘魯的相關單位…… |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-09T11:21:17.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-09T11:21:21.164000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我是上個月去，你前年去，這時空環境轉變已經太大了。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-09T11:21:21.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-09T11:21:25.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
您剛剛指示的其他國家，我會盡力去安排。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:26.568000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:59.987000+08:00 |
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我覺得利用這個關鍵時候，年底就要召開部長會議，今年是越南輪值主席國，這個關鍵年、機運年，他相對有機會成立臺灣的入會工作小組，往後就是馬來西亞，到英國可能是四年之後的事情，今年如果不好好把握……你知道2021年是我召開記者會呼籲臺灣要趕快申請加入CPTPP。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.965 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:01.747000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:27.349000+08:00 |
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結果第二天老共跑去申請，我是要你們趕快，動作要快一點、積極一點、全力投入一點，如果你們再不積極的話，我會把12個國家所有大使全部都找回來，來報告說明跟駐在國的談判情形及接洽狀況，以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
江次長文若 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-09T11:22:27.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-09T11:22:28.991857+08:00 |
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謝謝委員。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-09T11:22:29.291857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:31.577571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
請羅智強委員質詢。 |
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0 |