| IVOD_ID |
168371 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168371 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T11:15:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T11:22:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc74a97f79eb7fccb4dfa1e45401cc1f585775daf2063192877fd79bbc0b0a3b3945ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:15:56 - 11:22:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主任委員嚴德發報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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賴委員士葆 |
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陳處長相寶 |
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陳處長坤昇 |
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謝謝主席有請退伍會的顏主委我們請顏主委賴委好是主委好主委知道我們退伍會投資四月每年都有賺錢吧有22個四月單位這個其實喔 |
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中東打仗了現在老百姓苦哈哈的說要動漲油價中油動漲這個每一周大概20億貼20億還要增資等等的結果有一塊還是漲就是瓦斯家用的瓦斯也漲小吃店的瓦斯也漲 |
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結果我查了一下全國25家的天然氣公司裡面台北福島會直接持有二到四成股權占16家而且間接投資星光無家的星駭瓦斯這個星就是星光的星另外一個那個星星像的星 星字號的很多啊所以真正的瓦斯界 |
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我一直想說怪怪這個我們的東西現在便當100塊錢幾乎吃不到了都100塊以上了就這一塊沒有動漲就是瓦斯兇手找到了就是退伍的你們投資這麼多你們的市佔率加起來你這些事業加起來66%主委我就問你一句話可不可以承諾你也動漲我們沒有接到要漲價的通知這個不會漲目前不會漲 |
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這個是經濟部人員署在主導不是不是不是你們是老闆咧我們也是經濟部董總是你指派的嘛經濟部好你可不可以跟經濟部協調現在我們來看我們的統裝瓦斯 |
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都一桶都這個超過八百塊了家用的也漲小吃店的也漲三月初每一桶就漲了十幾塊到五十塊那你看看喔這幾家我送給你聽喔你們這個瓦斯啊這個新字號的天然瓦斯賺多少錢呢你知不知道賺多少錢 |
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每年大概賺十幾億不只十幾億啊 我跟你算了一下你們大概賺三十億到一百億之多平均報酬率十點五七當然要很好 報酬率發展的北部報酬率十八趴 南部十四趴 |
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一般的公用事業報酬率只有5到7、8所以退伍會投資這幾家都不賣勒我做生意勒所以你們有賺啊就少賺一點啊這就是你反應你們是董長你可不可以承諾董長報告委員要跟您報告 |
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所有公用瓦斯的售價我們各瓦斯公司都不能訂全部由能源署來訂所以我們不能去調整這個主委主委 我就問你一個政策上你可不可以跟經濟部長 工部長他在樓下有機會你跟他講一下我們現在都在你們手上嘛就是現在那個加油的動作呢什麼有動作 最後一個地方沒有動作 |
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我們會和化石協會跟經濟部反映這個問題 跟中油反映這個問題要這個啦 因為等一下我們要中油吃便當 便當你再看嘛一百塊錢賣無 賣無啦 幾乎賣無啦就是跟化石很有關係 這個我查了一下 |
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退伍費 角色很重要的 我不知道你們怎麼會經營 怎麼賺錢這個 這個 主委啊 我誇你了 你講個話咧保委 我們這個是在安置基金在運用我知道啦 搭分給安置基金啦 建國庫不多啦我的意思是說 因為你會賺錢 所以少賺一點啦你跟經濟部講一下 董長 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
260.523 |
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可以嗎?可以嗎?剛剛我們竹民講會跟透過瓦解會跟技術反應這個問題小問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
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農民救養金的申請資格現在有人啊這個有農民啊比如說在他退以前啊他可能持有一張台積電的股票結果他的鼓勵這個儘管會鼓勵大家藏地持有啊結果因為這樣子結果沒有辦法領農民救養金一個月一萬五嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
292.81 |
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一萬五十個沒有可不可以檢討單身或是沒有子女的農民入住農家政府的安置重要是不一定是給錢 重要是安置他可不可以讓他住進來可不可以可不可以檢討包委我是救養處處長報告我們領取救養金的農民大概有兩萬六千多人那我每一年會去做驗證 |
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318.086 |
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按照他每一年平均的總收入那總收入的一項裡面就有包含利息的收入所以我們針對榮民的這些總收入因為訂那個太苛了因為主席站出來不要花太多時間那個他是用低收入戶的標準在訂啦我覺得這一部分對榮民可以放寬一點啦 |
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我們回去再做檢討沒有這是兩個一個是入住一個是領錢我現在關心的是入住因為這樣子取消入住對吧沒有取消了怎麼沒有 |
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357.368 |
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我剛剛跟您報告的是救養金那救養的資格條件我們有相關的規則你們監討一下吧因為那個你們資格是比照門檻比照那個低收入太低啦我真的要強調這個太低啦我覺得對農民這樣子太苛啦好不好 謝謝謝謝賴市長 委員 接下來請文娟 趙薇 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:15:58.791000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，有請退輔會嚴主委。 |
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0.833 |
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主席 |
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請嚴主委。 |
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0.75 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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2026-04-09T11:15:59.071000+08:00 |
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賴委員好。 |
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0.75 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:15:59.111000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:15:59.331000+08:00 |
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主委好。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:16:01.132000+08:00 |
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主委知道退輔會投資事業每年都有賺錢吧？ |
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0.833 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-09T11:16:01.152000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-09T11:16:01.212000+08:00 |
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有22個事業單位。 |
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0.667 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:16:01.272000+08:00 |
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其實中東打仗，現在老百姓苦哈哈，像中油要凍漲油價每一週大概貼二十億還要增資等等，結果有一塊還是漲，就是瓦斯，家用的瓦斯也漲，小吃店的瓦斯也漲。 |
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0.891 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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結果我查了全國25家天然氣公司裡面，退輔會直接持有二到四成不等的股權占16家，而且間接投資新光吳家的新海瓦斯，前面的「新」是新光的「新」，後面是欣欣向榮的「欣」，「欣」字號的也很多啊！ |
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0.662 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:16:52.016000+08:00 |
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所以真正瓦斯界……我想說怪不得我們現在幾乎吃不到100塊錢的便當了，都是100塊以上了，就這一塊沒有凍漲，就是瓦斯，兇手找到了，就是退輔會！ |
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0.804 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:15.028000+08:00 |
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你們投資這麼多，你們的市占率加起來，這些事業加起來66%。 |
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0.958 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:16.288000+08:00 |
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主委，我就問你一句話：可不可以承諾你也凍漲？ |
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0.947 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:17.369000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:17.929000+08:00 |
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我們沒有接到要漲價的通知，目前不會漲。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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什麼東西？ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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但是你們已經漲了。 |
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0 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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因為這是經濟部能源署在主導。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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不是，你們是老闆耶！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:44.389000+08:00 |
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1 |
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你這個…… |
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0 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:44.389000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:44.630000+08:00 |
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我們也是聽經濟部的。 |
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0.778 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:44.890000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:45.951000+08:00 |
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不是，董、總是你指派的嘛！ |
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0.8 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:46.512000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:47.233000+08:00 |
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好，你說經濟部，那你可不可以跟經濟部協調？ |
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0.778 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:17:47.233000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:04.852000+08:00 |
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現在來看我們的桶裝瓦斯一桶都超過800塊了，家用的也漲，小吃店的也漲，3月初每一桶就漲了十幾塊到五十塊，這幾家我算給你聽，你們「欣」字號的天然瓦斯賺多少錢呢？ |
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0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:04.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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2026-04-09T11:18:05.412000+08:00 |
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你知不知道賺多少錢？ |
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1 |
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楊主任秘書長政 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-09T11:18:05.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:14.199000+08:00 |
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我知道。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:14.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
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好，那你講。 |
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0 |
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楊主任秘書長政 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:22.986000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:24.067000+08:00 |
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每年大概賺十幾億。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:24.067000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:25.047000+08:00 |
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不只十幾億，我跟你算了一下…… |
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楊主任秘書長政 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:25.047000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:26.047000+08:00 |
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分到我們輔導會的，因為我們占股只有33%。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:25.107000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:46.120000+08:00 |
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對啦股權……你們大概賺三十二億到一百億之多，平均報酬率10.57%，這當然很好，報酬率很棒，北部報酬率18%、南部14%，一般的公用事業報酬率只有5到7%，所以退輔會投資這幾家都不錯，很會做生意耶！ |
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0.769 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:46.180000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:46.420000+08:00 |
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所以你們有賺，就少賺一點啊！ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:46.520000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:47.241000+08:00 |
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你們就凍漲，可不可以承諾凍漲？ |
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0.615 |
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楊主任秘書長政 |
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2026-04-09T11:18:47.401000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:10.994000+08:00 |
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我跟你報告，所有公用瓦斯的售價我們各瓦斯公司都不能訂，全部由能源署來訂，所以我們不能隨便去調整這個售價。 |
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0.875 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:11.654000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:16.376000+08:00 |
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主委，我問政策上你可不可以跟經濟部龔部長講，他今天在樓下，有機會你跟他講一下，現在都在你們手上，現在加油的凍漲了，只有一個地方沒有凍漲──天然氣瓦斯。 |
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0.75 |
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楊主任秘書長政 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:30.341000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.101000+08:00 |
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我們會通過瓦斯協會跟經濟部反映這個問題，跟中油反映這個問題。 |
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0.857 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.101000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.121000+08:00 |
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要反映啦！ |
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0.5 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.161000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.521000+08:00 |
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等一下我們中午吃便當，你看一下便當，100塊能買到嗎？ |
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0.571 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.582000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.922000+08:00 |
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幾乎買不到啦，這就是跟瓦斯很有關係！ |
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0.625 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:31.922000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:53.868000+08:00 |
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我查了一下退輔會角色很重要，我不知道你們這麼會經營，這麼會賺錢。 |
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0.828 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:53.868000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.148000+08:00 |
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主委，我在誇你，請主委講個話。 |
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0.667 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.229000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.489000+08:00 |
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委員，這是安置基金在運用。 |
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0.909 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.509000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.569000+08:00 |
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我知道啦！ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:54.649000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:19:56.370000+08:00 |
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大部分給安置基金，給國庫不多，我的意思是你會賺錢，但少賺一點，你跟經濟部講一下凍漲，可以嗎？ |
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0.85 |
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嚴主任委員德發 |
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2026-04-09T11:20:17.904000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:20:20.527000+08:00 |
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剛才我們主秘有講，會透過瓦斯協會跟經濟部反映。 |
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0.524 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:20:20.727000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:20:42.079000+08:00 |
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好，最後一個小問題，榮民就養金的申請資格，現在有榮民，比如在他退以前可能只有1張台積電的股票，金管會鼓勵大家長期持有，因為領股利結果沒有辦法領榮民就養金，一個月15,000，對不對？ |
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0.763 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:20:50.251000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:00.614000+08:00 |
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領不到15,000，可不可以檢討單身或是沒有子女的榮民入住榮家，由政府安置，不一定是給錢，重要的是安置他，可不可以讓他住進來？ |
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0.846 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:00.614000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:03.635000+08:00 |
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可不可以檢討？ |
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1 |
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陳處長相寶 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:03.755000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:05.836000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我是就養處處長。 |
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0.636 |
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陳處長相寶 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:05.836000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:25.456000+08:00 |
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跟您報告，領取就養金的榮民大概有二萬六千多人，我每一年會按照他年平均的總收入做驗證，總收入的其中一項有包含利息的收入，所以我們針對榮民的這些總收入…… |
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0.855 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:25.597000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:29.520000+08:00 |
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你們訂那個太苛了，因為主席站起來了，不要花太多時間。是。 |
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0.792 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:30.601000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:33.344000+08:00 |
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它是用低收入戶的標準在訂啦！對。 |
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0.857 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:33.904000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:35.746000+08:00 |
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我覺得這部分對榮民可以放寬一點。 |
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1 |
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陳處長相寶 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:38.221000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:40.163000+08:00 |
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排富條款我們回去再做檢討。 |
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0.667 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:40.563000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:45.688000+08:00 |
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這是兩個問題，一個是入住，一個是領錢，我現在是關心入住，因為這樣而取消入住，對吧？沒有。 |
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0.892 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:45.728000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:46.189000+08:00 |
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取消了，怎麼沒有…… |
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1 |
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陳處長相寶 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:53.508000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:58.932000+08:00 |
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剛剛跟您報告的是就養金，就養的資格條件有相關的規則。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:58.932000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:59.793000+08:00 |
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你們檢討一下吧！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:21:59.973000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:04.997000+08:00 |
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因為你們這樣的資格門檻是比照低收入戶，太低啦！ |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:05.698000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:06.138000+08:00 |
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我要強調太低啦！ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:06.238000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:07.720000+08:00 |
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我覺得這樣對榮民太苛了，好不好？謝謝。 |
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0.75 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:07.720000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:07.820000+08:00 |
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謝謝賴士葆委員。 |
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0.714 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:07.820000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T11:22:07.920000+08:00 |
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接下來請馬文君召委。 |
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0.556 |