| IVOD_ID |
168366 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168366 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T10:58:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T11:07:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc7a68fdaae606ca449ff16f9abdda18f34775daf206319287766db0adbae60701a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
呂玉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:58:44 - 11:07:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、公平交易委員會代理主任委員、衛生福利部首長、法務部首長及行政院消費者保護處首長就「中東衝突加劇市場不確定性，致國內包括乙烯、塑膠、化肥、瀝青等石化原物料及物流成本增加，屢傳缺料、囤貨現象等之問題評估、因應策略與現況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 請龔部長 |
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部長辛苦了 業務繁忙但是今天的議題更加的重要因為美伊戰爭已經進入第六週讓國際能源有劇烈的波動那這個很多的原物料都暢漲了不只是我們石油 |
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加油的時候會變貴包括是我們的每天的外食日用品還甚至於我們交通費用也都上漲了那現在我們石化原料原物料的這個缺乏讓塑膠袋供不應求但是部長一直在強調說沒有缺貨台塑也在下個月就會供貨所以一直說至少我們都可以都會沒有問題但是 |
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你一再昨天強調今天強調但是家樂福馬上就說每個人限量就是一組剛剛有人回答說塑膠袋不是民生用品這個不是限購的問題 |
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你沒有缺貨怎麼會限購啊這個塑膠袋也不是明星商品啦用到限購的部分所以就是有缺貨才需要來掌控一下平益這個市場所以才會限購對不對不是 包委員剛剛我們署長有說明了也跟加爾福有做溝通 |
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了解那家福是講說基本上他們的庫存是夠的只是他很擔心說來的人搶 會搶啊那搶了以後又退就是不太好我們希望是這樣子因為他還是給需要的人來使用 |
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部長本席在這邊強調最重要是因為如果市場上的供需都能夠正常的話就不會有恐慌市場不會恐慌就不會有哄抬價格跟囤貨的情形這個就是要我們去查查那我們查查每次都留於形式而已等有查跟沒查一樣都是說你把個案給我你把個案給我難道我們自己都沒有工具跟手段去查核嗎剛剛也有人提到啊 |
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競銷的發票就可以去了解他到底有沒有囤貨的現象甚至在發票裡面就可以顯像出來有沒有抬高物價而且 美伊戰爭二月份開戰到現在四月份了三月份所有的物價都上漲了30%到50%這就有沒有這個聯台 烘台或者漲價的情形那部長你也說 有的有漲 有的沒有漲那為什麼有的不漲 有的要漲呢 |
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我想每一個廠商他的進料的來源可能不太一樣那他過去的庫存也不太一樣如果庫存比較充足的因為當初他進料的來源成本是比較低的那漲價的人表示說他囤貨他囤貨就是為了漲價 |
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所以他不把事出囉那有一些他本來他的這個存貨他就比較少所以他在一段的時間裡面都要從上游進料那上游進料已經反映了所以他也要反映給下游所以樣態會不太一樣所以為什麼要每一個個案都去了解才知道情況 |
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可是畢竟現在就是因為你貨供應的不足才有搶貨有搶貨的話這價格上才會有選數不一樣畢竟現在價錢就是漲啦所以我們從源頭增加這個5500噸就是這個道理所以你源頭增加的價格跟佔錢是一樣的嗎我們這一批貨要平價 |
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平價所以說戰前一樣不像戰後的價格沒有辦法完全一模一樣沒有辦法完全一模一樣但是會比現在的那你供應給台塑的價格跟戰前一樣嗎會平價對都是平價所以台塑出來的價格給我們下游廠商也不能漲價也要平價也要平價我們也會平價沒有錯 |
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所以這就是我們的一個評議市場價格的一個工具跟手段所以現在尤其是說像石油來講的話我們的儲存量 安全量部長有講說150天嘛但是我們石油管理法 |
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一百四十幾天那我們私有的管理法裡面是九十天那還有部分的空間那本身在這邊是說可不可以我們去評估估算一下可不可以釋出一些儲油來做一下我們市場評議價格的一個方式 |
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因為現在我們油價是有一個公式但是我們大部分都是事實上是中油在吸收了所以我會這麼提就是說中油我們油價它已經吸收75%那我們市場包括現在原物料高漲的情形之下你說不缺貨但是原物料還是在漲這就很奇怪了缺貨才會漲結果不缺貨也還是漲 |
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那所以說如果去平易市場的價格我們是不是可以釋出一些我們的這個儲油呢報告委員那個油的部分汽油器材油的部分是一部分那那個油物料是清油是石油腦的部分那個是兩邊是有一點點不一樣 |
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那我剛剛講的那個一百四十幾天是汽柴油的一個部分是那椅膝的部分那個石油鳥 那個石油鳥那原油呢那我們現在就是用平價原油的儲量夠嗎原油是OK的啊可以釋出嗎那個是汽柴油的部分大概有多少天呢 |
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不是 汽柴油的部分那個就是有140幾天啊那個 而現在就是說那個乙烯上油這個說叫氫油或是叫石油腦那個部分我們用評價的方式供應給這個 評價 注意評價評價就不會抬高物價 這很重要那接下來本席想請教的是說那個我們的原油裡面有提煉出個瀝青對不對 |
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那力清剛剛統計的話是沒有缺貨嗎可以到五月底對五月底但是本市要給部長一個個案我們桃園力清是缺料的因為現在力清的最主要就是我們道路工程上最需要的原料嘛現在缺貨的話我們道路的拓寬工程都會被延宕所以請部長去了解一下我們桃園有六家力清的供應商到今天早上我問了 |
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還是缺貨還是缺貨所以很多道路工程本身爭取的這個榮池路啊第一級工程第二級工程工期啊第二級工程就放下來了沒辦法鋪了那不可能去做鋼性路面啊鋼性路面是水泥混凝土的吧可是鋼性路面不好啊草雜積水等等問題都不好還是要用瀝青的嘛所以這方面部長科技幫我們了解嗎好 我們來了解 |
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部長這方面的話本席因為現在原物料都高漲大家不管是產業也好民眾生活開銷都要增加的部分那去年的部分也是有原物料各方面的漲價所以我們 |
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在5月份馬上就要報稅了但是報稅的期間去年是有延了一個月的時間減輕到產業跟民眾的經濟壓力可不可以請部長也跟財政部這邊做個討論可不可以比照去年讓我們報稅的時間延後到6月30號呢 |
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幫委員 委員的意見我們會轉達不過跟委員補充一下就是說上個月的這個物價上漲率大概是1.2%啦所以還算平穩啦不過委員的意見我們還是會轉達在幫我們轉達啦因為大家這個剛剛一直提到就是市場齁我們要去評議這個價格 |
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他們會恐慌才會去搶購搶購就會缺貨缺貨又有囤積的情形所以這市場價格的話我們希望不管是公平會陳主委也要注意我們的產發署這邊對產業上面有沒有囤貨的情形在我們競銷發表都可以知道所以我們經濟部這邊再回去討論一下如何去平抑市場價格跟我們的所有的物料好不好好 謝謝 |