| IVOD_ID |
168361 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168361 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T10:48:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T10:58:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc7db4c6ed467ac6599ff16f9abdda18f348ce3249aa741ed41ad494a3f2fee8f525ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭正鈐 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:48:51 - 10:58:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、公平交易委員會代理主任委員、衛生福利部首長、法務部首長及行政院消費者保護處首長就「中東衝突加劇市場不確定性，致國內包括乙烯、塑膠、化肥、瀝青等石化原物料及物流成本增加，屢傳缺料、囤貨現象等之問題評估、因應策略與現況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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我們請鄭振淺委員謝謝主席我想先請一下公平會的代理主委陳志明然後法務部的專門委員李徵慧還有那個消保處的處長鍾瑞蘭處長謝謝還有什麼委員長 |
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謝謝主委我想說今天那個主席特別安排了跟那個塑膠袋之亂有關的相關問題那因為範圍很廣也牽扯到了農業部這邊的肥料的問題那經濟部這邊包括塑膠袋包括了釐清也包括衛福部包括相關醫材的相關的問題我想到目前為止的時候 |
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工評會這邊就是有沒有查到任何就是相關的一些不法的事情有沒有工評會目前的作為大概就是配合法務部的聯合稽查還有本身的立案調查那針對塑膠袋的部分我們是已經例外調查那立案調查目前已經包含聯合稽查總共查了17個案子 |
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那目前發現就是說,當然現在供給的不確定性,價格有稍微上漲,然後廠商也會因應的去做一些調配,譬如說,7月,綠青的部分我們有現在進行初步的了解,我們有跟工會這邊來了解他們目前的情況,那總的來說還沒有公平法裡面所謂的聯合拒絕出貨, |
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謝謝主委那我想請教一下那個保護部專門委員目前為止相關這幾個相關領域的時候有沒有相關的案子已經產生了目前是聯合稽查的部分主要是針對這個塑料的原物料在做稽查只是這個塑料部分有沒有已經產生的案子 |
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目前聯合機場的部分是還沒有媒體說有啦媒體說至少已經有兩件跟刑事相關的案子有關因為還在審理過程當中我們也是特別關注我們希望這事情都很快能夠落幕因為其實現在美醫這邊也開始準備要進入和談的階段 |
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那到底後續會怎麼樣子我們也持續的關注那麼希望我們相關的單位能夠把這部分把它給落實下來因為媒體說已經有刑事案件那我們就請你們特別的關注因為還在審理過程當中好不好那兩件事因為是檢舉告發不是聯合稽查的理解 理解相關的案子我們都一定考量消防處這邊 |
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有沒有消費者跟你們投訴?我們目前看申訴系統大概是四件有嘛,那請妥善的處理啦針對這部分,因為我覺得這問題目前坊間感覺很關注但是實際的問題也許並沒有那麼嚴重謝謝你們,我接下來想請一下經濟部公部長還有中郵的方董事長 |
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政委好現在部長因為剛剛請他們三個相關的一個單位來說就表述現在這問題大概有多嚴重其實實際上進入公平會跟我們法務相關單位的可能還沒那麼嚴重可是消費者的感覺是不一樣的那我們今天看到經濟部這邊的一個報告的時候也很清楚提到我們在總供應量這邊是沒有問題的對不對總供應量這邊沒有問題 |
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然後針對那個就是提到總量夠然後可以調度也有替代來源基本上這些東西大概都沒有問題但也特別提到說我們讓那個世青這邊先增產之後然後就是產發署這邊也跟我們相關的這20家塑膠工廠都已經有做一個聯繫我覺得很好啦我們用最快的速度去產生這個問題那為什麼我要特別提到說總量上感覺是夠的經濟部這邊 |
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總量管購消費者卻覺得確實有一些物價格上的波動有些地方講三成有些地方講到五成這可能就是兩個很重要的問題因為從整個原料到消費者手上它有很多一個整個產業鏈的問題當中可能還會有很多預期心理的問題消費者的預期心理或者中韓商的預期心理都不一樣都會產生這相關的部分 |
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所以我覺得經濟部在做這步過程當中的時候可能也需要有更多的一個說明跟溝通讓消費者真的不要擔心是是是所以我們會直接跟商圈市場端因為是 |
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家用的消費者他現在是比較不缺啦那現在就是說商圈的還有市場端的因為他們要客戶使用他們可能要比較多一點那我們就直接跟他們溝通理解好不好因為這過程當中我發現部長也特別提到說我們增產之後就是平均每一個人一天可以用 |
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10個塑膠袋比方說講10個塑膠袋我聽到這個數字的時候在想說今天還好環境部彭部長沒有來不然他聽了可能就要哭了你知道嗎我在想說這件事情塑膠袋之亂這件事情的時候我覺得某一個部分對整個經濟部所掌管的產業當中的時候對整個循環經濟的部分我覺得也許是值得我們去 |
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多做琢磨的一個部分我們會跟環境部還有那個商圈夜市來討論一個怎麼樣檢縮的一個機制或者是獎勵我覺得這個部分因為我覺得剛好就是坦白說台灣消費者之前對這部分可能沒有特別的 |
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關注 因為這件事情讓大家覺得減碩的問題然後怎麼樣子能夠重複使用的一個問題或者是整個循環經濟產業鏈把它給落實下來我覺得都是一件很好的事情那我們也希望針對這事情當中的時候我們經濟部在思考的不只是說讓四清增產這樣子的一個事情來解決而是對於整個台灣的一個 |
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更適切的一個適合台灣整個社會環境的一個產業也能夠有一些調整的一個動作在這裡頭完全贊成那這部分再請我們基部這邊再多做一個努力那我接下來我想請教一個部分就是因為在這個四清增產的過程當中我想請教一下部長你知不知道我們到2024年我們整個的以西的產能產 |
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能大概總共有多少然後我們的實際產量有多少現在現在來講的話台塑大概是9萬噸然後現在中油的部分原來是6萬噸然後增加了一點點整體的產能我想乙烯的整體產能 |
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就是十幾萬噸我這邊得到的數字就是針對石化工業同業工會他們所提供的數字這邊我們看到2024年的狀態我們產能跟實際的一個產量有35%的落差 |
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那為什麼我會提到這個狀態就是說以目前台灣這相關的一個產能來說的時候其實是有空間去提高的那我在這邊會特別提到一個針對一個狀態就是說因為這次是讓那個世青這邊的時候先提 |
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提高產量出來那我想請教針對新四清這個計畫因為要投入一千多億一千多億的一個狀態2024年行政院通過那我想關切一下這個案子目前情況怎麼樣子因為有很多相關的環保團體就是我剛才問到說我們碰到說外資亂的時候是不是能夠讓台灣的循環經濟做得更好 |
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所以對於新四清這樣子的一個計畫的時候我們目前進行到哪裡然後是不是會如期往下推還是有可能修正的可能性我們就先請中央董事長OK好 請董事長回應 |
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謝謝委員 委員好新石清這個案子就是剛剛委員所提到行政院在110年同意這個計畫往前推動但是它有一個前提就是要跟當地高雄市政府取得在檢探上的一個共識這部分我們跟高雄市政府溝通我們已經達成初步的共識 |
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但是這個檢探的方式跟結果還是要經過設計完了以後經過環評的審查通過以後才會確立所以因此我們在這個案子目前推動就是在進行基本設計的過程中以及在環境調查的過程中所以跟高雄市政府這邊已經達成共識了嗎還是還在溝通過程當中達成共識但是那個結果必須要經過基本設計完了以後才能確立 |
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因為我想說因為現在我們本身的 |
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好 謝謝好 |
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谢谢 再见 |