| IVOD_ID |
168356 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168356 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T10:39:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T10:48:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc70ad9e768c3683186ff16f9abdda18f348ce3249aa741ed41e08a2c5bfbd339ef5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:39:01 - 10:48:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長、公平交易委員會代理主任委員、衛生福利部首長、法務部首長及行政院消費者保護處首長就「中東衝突加劇市場不確定性，致國內包括乙烯、塑膠、化肥、瀝青等石化原物料及物流成本增加，屢傳缺料、囤貨現象等之問題評估、因應策略與現況」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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郑天才委员咨询好有请这个我们经济部部长有请经济部部长郑委好部长好 |
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我們看這個今天的議題非常重要非常謝謝趙薇能夠安排他涉及到這個乙烯塑膠化肥濾青等等還有醫藥都涉及到至少還有其他的如果我們看這個 |
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塑化品漲價衝擊產業各種很多的產業包括銀件業都受影響利清的關係所以它的很廣泛在這樣的一個情形之下根據你們的報告二月至今漲幅已超過百分之百國際的部分 |
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那我們看這個因為它是這個美以一的戰爭這個是從2月28號2月28號如果我們從這個你的所提到的後面有提到4月1號投入運作中有事情提前4月1號如果我們從2月28號 |
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到現在已經這麼長的時間所以這是我們要去檢討未來能夠提前因為這樣的一個狀況所以必須以後要提前來去規劃那我們看這個它不只是一個切後 |
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甚至相關的小型工廠也被迫停工無薪假是這樣的一個情形它不是漲價而已還缺貨所以這個部分是相當嚴重的我們剛剛有提到真的是要 |
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因為這樣的階次的一個狀況未來都要去做比較詳盡的一個規劃但是我還是比較以後的這個昨天的報告裡面也提到在原油的部分中油公司自2017年起開始採購美國原油 |
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2017年就開始採購,而且還要擴大採購美國的石油那這樣的話,為什麼還會有這種難道美國的石油就沒有辦法解決剛才講的那些乙烯受貧那些嗎?不一樣,請綜合公司董事長 |
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不太一樣美國原油是比較輕一點跟中東的油的品質不太一樣性質不太一樣原油分好幾類 |
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有低流侵止原油也有高流侵止原油所以我們目前跟美國採購的沒有辦法解決我們現在所面臨的這些比例因為它美國的原油它是比較輕的所以還是要這個也得靠中東的這些是有差別好請回座所以在這樣一個情況之下我們真的是這個 |
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就一直在強調的還是要避免戰爭尤其是我們台灣所以這個部分是一個非常非常重要還有一個問題 |
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這個我們塑膠袋的使用量一再的往上升,2020年是91.7億個當然這個業務可能是環境部的,但是你們可以去協調 |
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到今年一年使用量已經160億個平均每天使用2.7個台灣一年使用量受交代的量是約160億真的是非常非常的不斷的上升所以這個要請經濟部去協調環境部 |
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這樣的一個那麼可惜,媒體也報導台灣塑膠袋之亂,外媒也關注,還提了一個問題,什麼問題呢?塑膠袋之亂會不會讓我們台灣,台灣塑膠袋短期會推動塑膠袋重複使用嗎? |
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所以這個部分是一個是我們過去一直沒有去加強的部分每天我買便當我的塑膠袋我都會收起來 |
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帶回去所以這個部分就是要去推廣要去推動這是一個非常非常尤其是我們台灣很多都是要靠進口要靠進口所以這個部分是一個一定要跟環境部去做協調好請回座那個請農業部部長 |
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這個你們這邊都非常的好都有一些補貼當然都是用人民的納稅錢就是預算這個都是持續的去作業這個是有它的一致的一個需求有一個需要過去也都這樣做這個部分這樣的一個情形之下但還是有漲 |
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我們針對那個自肥原料然後到了我們不過原料有漲但是在農民使用的肥料是凍漲的然後這個價差是由政府跟台北一起來吸收好這個共同的去解決這樣的一個問題是有它的一個必要性這個總理的報告裡面我們國內自肥原料 |
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碳肥來自印尼、馬來西亞、澳洲這些國家哪一個國家跟中東有關係呢? |
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456.363 |
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有沒有 沙烏地阿拉伯比較接近比較接近 只有一個沙烏地阿拉伯我跟委員說明那為什麼還會漲 我就覺得奇怪委員 我跟你報告那應該是代表 基本上我們台灣 台肥的肥料 |
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上半年3月之前是從杜拜那邊過來的然後大概5月開始是從東南亞、馬來西亞、越南這邊過來的所以它本身來的時候還有運費那運費因為石油提高所以它的現貨就跟股票一樣它的市場會因為行情的關係會去拉高 |
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好 所以還是跟石油有關係了因為運費對 因為運費的關係 對所以這個還是要避免戰爭這個是台灣很多東西都是靠進口啦好 最後這個 |
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謝謝農業部根據我上一次的質詢針對這個馬灘CN社福造成這些農機器的受損然後你們有這些補助但是因為很多的農機器沒有 |
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還沒有那個證明,農機只用證明所以後來你們同意經過我的協調你們同意可以透過村里長的證明這方面非常謝謝你們 |
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那因為你們時間有延長,到4月底了,這個很好這個部分也請農業部這邊到目前為止的辦理情形、補助的情形整理可以,我想我甚至要求我們同仁,就是在馬太安,因為馬太安的復建是一個不是一兩個月就能夠完成的 |
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包括他的農田的復育的部分我希望說有一個完整的進度在網上讓關心這個案子的人了解好 謝謝 |
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有請經濟部部長。 |
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有請經濟部部長。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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鄭委員好。 |
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部長好。 |
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今天的議題非常重要，非常謝謝召委能夠安排，涉及到乙烯、塑膠、化肥、瀝青還有醫藥等等，事實上還有其他的。 |
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2026-04-09T10:40:14.745000+08:00 |
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如果我們看塑化品漲價衝擊產業的概況，有各種的產業，包括營建業都受影響，因為瀝青的關係，所以它很廣泛，但是在這樣的情形之下，根據你們的報告，2月至今漲幅已超過100%。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.817 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-09T10:40:15.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-09T10:40:15.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
是國際的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-09T10:40:15.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-09T10:40:20.662000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
對，國際的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-09T10:40:20.662000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-09T10:41:03.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
因為美以伊戰爭是從2月28日開始，你後面有提到中油四輕提前於4月1日投入運作，從2月28日到現在已經這麼長的時間，所以這是我們要去檢討的，未來要提前因應，因為這樣的狀況，所以以後必須要提前規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.768 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-09T10:41:05.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-09T10:41:39.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
它不只是缺貨，甚至相關的小型工廠也被迫停工放無薪假，是這樣的情形，它不是漲價而已，還缺貨，所以這個部分是相當嚴重的，剛剛有提到因為這一次的狀況，未來都要做比較詳盡的規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.948 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-09T10:41:39.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:19.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
但是我還是比較疑惑的是，昨天的報告裡面也提到，在原油的部分，中油公司自2017年起開始採購美國原油，2017年就開始採購，而且現在還要擴大採購美國的石油，這樣為什麼還會有這種問題，難道美國的石油沒有辦法解決剛才講的那些乙烯、塑品的問題嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:19.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:21.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
不太一樣，請中油公司董事長…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:22.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:22.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
不太一樣？因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:22.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:23.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
乙烯的來源就是石油…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:22.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:28.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
美國原油是比較輕一點，跟中東的油的品質不太一樣、性質不太一樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:28.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:29.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
好，中油要不要說明一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:29.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:30.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:28.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:47.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
我說明一下，原油分好幾類，有低硫輕質原油，也有高硫輕質原油，也有高硫重質原油…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.441 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:47.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:52.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
所以我們目前跟美國採購的原油沒有辦法解決我們現在所面臨的這些乙烯的問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:53.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-09T10:42:55.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
沒有，因為美國的原油是比較輕的。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-09T10:42:57.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-09T10:43:01.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
所以還是要靠中東的油？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-09T10:43:02.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-09T10:43:03.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
好，所以是有差別。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-09T10:43:06.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-09T10:43:23.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
在這樣的情況之下，我們一再強調還是要避免戰爭，尤其是我們臺灣，所以這個部分是非常、非常重要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-09T10:43:24.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-09T10:44:11.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
還有一個問題是塑膠袋的使用量一再地往上升，2020年是91.7億個，當然這是環境部的業務，但是你們可以去協調，到今年一年使用量已經160億個，平均每人每天使用2.7個，臺灣一年塑膠袋的使用量約160億，真的是非常非常多，而且不斷地上升，所以要請經濟部去協調環境部。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.869 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-09T10:44:20.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-09T10:44:27.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
媒體也報導臺灣塑膠袋之亂，連外媒也關注，還提了一個問題，什麼問題呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-09T10:44:34.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-09T10:44:38.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
臺灣塑膠袋短缺會推動塑膠袋重複使用嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-09T10:44:42.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-09T10:44:48.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
這是我們過去一直沒有加強的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-09T10:44:48.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-09T10:44:52.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我們會鼓勵。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-09T10:44:52.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-09T10:45:18.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
每天我買便當的塑膠袋都會收起來帶回去，所以這個部分都是要去推廣、要去推動，這是非常重要的，尤其是我們臺灣很多都是要靠進口，所以這個部分一定要跟環境部去做協調，請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-09T10:45:19.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-09T10:45:19.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
請農業部部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-09T10:45:19.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-09T10:45:30.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-09T10:45:30.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-09T10:45:53.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
部長，你們這邊非常的好，都有一些補貼，當然都是用人民的納稅錢，也就是預算，都是持續的去作業，這個是有它的需求、需要，過去也都是這樣做，這樣的情形之下，還是有漲，是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-09T10:45:57.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:00.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
針對製肥原料到了農民…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:02.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:11.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
原料有漲，但是農民使用的肥料是凍漲的，這個價差是由政府和台肥一起吸收。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:11.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:34.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
好，共同解決這樣的問題是有它的必要性，你的報告裡面提到，我們國內氮肥的製肥原料來自印尼、馬來西亞、澳洲等這些國家，哪一個國家跟中東有關係呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:37.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:39.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
沙烏地阿拉伯比較接近杜拜那邊。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:40.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:44.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
比較接近，只有一個沙烏地阿拉伯。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:44.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:45.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
我跟委員說明…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:46.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:47.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
那為什麼還會漲？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:47.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-09T10:46:50.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
我覺得奇怪，那應該是塑膠袋。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-09T10:46:50.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:17.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
跟委員報告，基本上，臺灣台肥的肥料上半年3月之前是從杜拜那邊過來的，大概5月開始是從東南亞、馬來西亞、越南這邊過來的，所以它本身運來的時候還有運費，因為石油提高，所以它的現貨就跟股票一樣，市場會因為行情的關係去拉高。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-09T10:47:18.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:20.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
所以還是跟石油有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-09T10:47:23.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:25.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
對，因為運費的關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-09T10:47:25.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:31.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
所以還是要避免戰爭，臺灣很多東西都是靠進口。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-09T10:47:32.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:55.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
最後，謝謝農業部，根據我上一次的質詢，針對馬太鞍溪堰塞湖造成這些農機具的受損，你們有這些補助，但是因為很多的農機具還沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-09T10:47:59.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-09T10:47:59.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
農機使用證明。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-09T10:48:00.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-09T10:48:26.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
所以後來經過我的協調，你們同意可以透過村里長的證明，這方面非常謝謝你們，因為你們有把時間延長到4月底，很好，這個部分也請農業部把到目前為止的辦理情形、補助情形整理…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-09T10:48:26.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-09T10:48:42.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
可以，我甚至於要求我們同仁，因為馬太鞍的復建不是1、2個月之內就能夠完成的，包括農田復育的部分，我希望能有一個完整的進度再往上讓關心這個案子的人了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-09T10:48:43.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-09T10:48:43.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-09T10:48:43.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-09T10:48:45.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
謝謝鄭天財委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-09T10:48:46.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-09T10:48:48.821429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
接下來請鄭正鈐委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |