| IVOD_ID |
168344 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168344 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T10:05:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T10:13:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc73022962982e7b925b509ad0e4ca3d8668ce3249aa741ed41d3fd2c7e8cb69e775ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:05:47 - 10:13:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議(事由:邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、交通部次長就「加速落實人本交通環境-檢討『永續提升人行安全計畫』執行現況、簡化審核行政流程及協助地方政府改善行人安全設施之精進作為」進行專題報告並備質詢。) |
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謝謝有請劉世邦部長還有國土署蔡署長謝謝來委員好謝謝部長 |
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我選區,左營南梓這幾年的轉變繞著半導體產業也就是台積電在這邊設廠,現在兩個廠之後還有三到四個廠之後還有三到四個廠,再加上原本其實在劉部長在擔任副市長的時候在推動的橋頭科學園區橋頭科學園區的連外道路,跟整個高雄市政府跟現在的內政部 |
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息息相關所以不管部長你是什麼角色,都跟我的選區脫不了關係包含你在副市長,包含你在立法委員,包含你現在擔任部長對於幾條道路的催生,我們都逐步的在追蹤這些進度 |
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那你看從中油電製廠變成台積電廠區從舊左營國中要變成國立清華大學的半導體學院從聯堂會館要變成國立陽明交大的也是半導體學院那所以部長在上個禮拜跟左院長也一起到國道一號男子交流道的洞徒 |
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這個也特別感謝內政部給予這個經費那有一個問題其實比較關鍵需要部長跟署長的支持那就是 |
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周邊的這些道路那天遇到台積電的副總我跟他說讓你們投資這麼多那我們一個交流道才100多億才100多億台積電投資上兆在高雄所以說跟地方政府配合這個TSMC的公共工程的投資其實是遠遠不及那我們希望左營南梓這個園區 |
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他不會像竹科這樣子當大量的這些工程師從業人員配合廠商進到這個園區之後會有這個塞車的問題所以發明了創造了這個交流道那我剛需要我剛說需要部長跟署長這邊協助的就是其實未來你可以想像從台南科學園區沙崙這邊到南子產業園區到 |
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中間有這個橋頭科學園區中間的這些車流量會有多少那目前橋科規劃的車流都只有往北都只有往岡山它只有一條目前正在國路署正在推動的一之一它可以接到省道那整個區論徵收大幅的落後原本規劃的這個 |
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要三橫三豎出來那歸咎原因說是財務計畫但是其實歸咎原因又說到這個當初交通部在規劃這個高速公路下的這個連通道的時候財務計畫太多但是你看一個台積電我們已經把周邊的道路班交流到做這麼多的整併做這麼多的規劃包含新台17線那內政部也非常支持那部長 |
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我們是不是針對橋科這一個連外道路我們也要再加緊的來推動我想相關的推動進度是不是請署長跟您回應一下好嗎 |
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謝謝委員那個橋科裡面我們目前在目前的一個第一期這個部分大概整地大概都已經完成那另外的部分有一支總共有幾條另外道路規劃有三條現在只有一支一正在處理然後一支二跟一支一還有一支二目前一支一的部分 |
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我們現在會放在三期的一個以後的區段徵收計畫裡面那這個區段徵收計畫我們目前在做西部計畫的整個開發計畫大概四月會小組那我們預計是六月會完成整個都市計畫對 我要講的是後面 你的一支二 一支三也要趕快出來對 那這個部分我們也會用我們的一個新市政的基金加速來去辦理 |
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否則這個目前的一個僑科它的整個聯外系統交通聯外造成問題要積極不要太保守你看剛剛市政府跟內政部還有國科會還有交通部那麼積極可以把這個交流道創造出來 |
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我覺得喬科我們也要做更積極的準備那今天還有另外一個很重要的議題就是我們是永續行人安全從113年到117年的這個計畫那當然總預算沒有交付總預算沒有審查當然影響到這個計畫我們希望剛剛劉部長講到的校園往外擴的這個計畫我也會在左營跟南子的校園來爭取那包含我在上任以後對於新莊一路這個 |
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這個蔡署長在當蔡局長的時候也都陪我會看過啦那希望我們在今年度趕快把這些路數的這些移植然後包含這個道路的人行道的這些這些工程趕快把它完善好那個概念新莊一路的概念就跟通學步道 |
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變成同學路廊一樣當內政部花了很多經費在直向南北向的人行道卻沒有東西向的人行道往原道很可惜所以當時就這樣子爭取那未來繼續來爭取這些校園、校園通道 |
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往社區的這些友善行人環境我覺得這是必要我們要極力的來爭取的另外也要再跟部長請命老宅延售經費只有50億當然遠遠不足當然我們總預算也期待可以跟在野黨可以好好的合作希望總預算趕快交付甚至希望我們的新興計畫 |
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有機會可以針對老宅延壽不足的地方我們可以再加強我講的就是國貿社區那部長可能也跟我一樣非常了解國貿社區的需求上次也在委員會裡面也答應說要研議國貿社區的老宅延壽或許部長會用不同的名稱不同的經費來支持國貿社區的這個 |
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他的外牆瓷磚脫落導致行人安全也有問題行人安全不是只有路面我想這個瓷磚希望部長也可以允諾我們盡速來研議來處理謝謝 請部長回應 |
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那個老宅延售因為只有50億各方都想要爭取這個經費所以目前我們第一期開始就是以四到六樓的公寓或六樓以下那國貿社區是12層樓第一個還有就是要全體住戶要同意真的很大的困難那我們來看一下就是說如果可以用這個都市更新的方式可以試試看但是也是要請這個委員或者是地方的民意代表來幫忙那個住戶要同意 |
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如果租屋沒有同意的話,恐怕這個經費補助下去反而會適得其反我想除了都跟老宅之外,必須再找一條路出來我們再跟國土署、再跟內政部共同來研議,謝謝好,謝謝委員 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:52.803000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:52.803000+08:00 |
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謝謝。 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:52.803000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.326000+08:00 |
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有請劉世芳部長還有國土署蔡署長,謝謝。 |
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0.941 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.326000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:58.326000+08:00 |
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好,麻煩部長、署長。 |
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劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.326000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.746000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.846000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:57.866000+08:00 |
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部長好。 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:06:05.237000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:06:53.063000+08:00 |
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我的選區左營、楠梓這幾年繞著半導體產業在轉變,台積電在這邊設廠,現在有兩個廠,之後還有三到四個廠,再加上原本劉部長在擔任副市長的時候所推動的橋頭科學園區,橋頭科學園區的聯外道路跟整個高雄市政府、跟現在的內政部息息相關,所以不管部長你是什麼角色,都跟我的選區脫不了關係,包含你擔任副市長、立法委員,或是現在擔任部長,對於幾條道路的催生,我們都逐步地在追蹤這些進度。 |
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0.916 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:06:54.393000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:07:19.238000+08:00 |
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你看中油從中油煉製廠變成台積電廠區,從舊左營國中要變成國立清華大學的半導體學院,從蓮潭會館要變成國立陽明交大的半導體學院,部長在上個禮拜跟卓院長也一起參與國道一號楠梓交流道的動土,這部分也特別感謝內政部給予經費。 |
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0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:07:19.639000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:08:06.582000+08:00 |
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有一個問題其實比較關鍵,需要部長跟署長的支持,就是周邊的這些道路,那天遇到台積電的副總,我跟他說,讓你們投資這麼多,我們一個交流道才一百多億,台積電投資上兆在高雄,跟地方政府配合TSMC的公共工程的投資,其實是遠遠不及,我們希望左營、楠梓這個園區不會像竹科這樣,當大量的工程師、從業人員、配合廠商進到這個園區之後會有塞車的問題,所以創造了這個交流道。 |
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0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:08:08.282000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:06.530000+08:00 |
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我剛剛說需要部長跟署長這邊協助的就是,你可以想像未來從臺南科學園區沙崙這邊到楠梓產業園區,到中間的橋頭科學園區,這些車流量會有多少,目前橋科規劃的車流都只有往北,都只有往岡山,目前只有一條國土署正在推動的1-1可以接到省道,整個區段徵收大幅落後原本規劃的三橫三豎,歸咎原因,說是財務計畫,但究其原因,又說到當初交通部在規劃高速公路下的連通道的時候,財務計畫太多。 |
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0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:07.190000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:17.057000+08:00 |
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但是你看,因為台積電,我們已經把周邊的道路,包含交流道,做這麼多的整併、做這麼多的規劃,包含新台17線,內政部也非常支持。 |
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0.863 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:17.817000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:25.911000+08:00 |
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部長,針對橋科這個聯外道路,我們是不是也要加緊來推動? |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:26.291000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:29.313000+08:00 |
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相關的推動進度是不是請署長跟您回應一下,好嗎? |
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1 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:29.313000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:32.717000+08:00 |
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好,謝謝,請署長。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:32.717000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:43.225000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員,橋科裡面,我們目前在第一期的部分,整地大概都已經完成,聯外的部分總共有幾條聯外道路,有…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:43.825000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:46.647000+08:00 |
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規劃有三條,現在只有1-1正在處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:09:49.069000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:04.820000+08:00 |
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1-1還有1-2,1-1的部分,我們現在會放在三期的區段徵收計畫裡面,這個區段徵收計畫目前在做細部計畫,整個開發計畫大概4月會小組,我們預計是6月會完成整個都市計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:04.820000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:08.543000+08:00 |
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我要講的是後面的1-2、1-3也要趕快出來。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:08.963000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:16.048000+08:00 |
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這個部分我們也會用我們的新市鎮基金加速辦理,否則目前的橋科整個聯外系統…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:16.048000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:17.048000+08:00 |
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要積極啦! |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:17.048000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:18.048000+08:00 |
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不要太保守。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:16.048000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:16.548000+08:00 |
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交通聯外系統造成問題。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:16.548000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:16.948000+08:00 |
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要積極,不要太保守。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:17.048000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:10:31.917000+08:00 |
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你看高雄市政府、內政部、國科會還有交通部,那麼積極可以把這個交流道創造出來,我覺得橋科也要做更積極的準備。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:32.137000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:11:45.239000+08:00 |
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今天還有另外一個很重要的議題就是永續行人安全從113年到117年的計畫,總預算沒有交付、沒有審查當然會影響到這個計畫,剛剛劉部長講到校園往外擴的計畫,我也會為左營及楠梓校園來爭取補助,包含我在上任以後,對於新莊一路,蔡署長在當蔡局長的時候也都陪我會勘過,希望在今年度趕快把這些路樹移植,包含道路的人行道工程趕快完善,新莊一路的概念就跟通學步道變成通學路廊一樣,當內政部花了很多經費在直向、南北向的人行道,卻沒有東西向的人行道很可惜,所以當時就這樣爭取,未來繼續爭取校園安全通道往社區的這些友善行人環境,我覺得這個是必要且要積極爭取的。 |
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0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:11:45.939000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:12:38.161000+08:00 |
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另外也要再跟部長請命,老宅延壽經費只有50億,當然遠遠不足,我們總預算也期待跟在野黨可以好好合作,希望總預算趕快交付,甚至希望新興計畫有機會可以針對老宅延壽不足的地方再加強,我講的就是果貿社區,部長可能也跟我一樣非常了解果貿社區的需求,上次也在委員會裡面答應要研議果貿社區的老宅延壽,或許部長會用不同的名稱、不同的經費支持果貿社區因外牆磁磚脫落導致行人安全問題,行人安全不是只有路面,磁磚的部分希望部長也可以允諾儘速研議處理,謝謝,請部長回應。 |
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0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T10:12:43.911000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:14.371000+08:00 |
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老宅延壽因為只有50億,各方都想要爭取這個經費,所以目前我們第一期開始就是以4到6樓公寓或6樓以下住宅,果貿社區是12層樓,第一個,還要有全體住戶同意,真的是很大的困難,我們來看一下如果可以用都市更新的方式,可以試試看,但是也要請委員或者是地方民意代表幫忙,住戶要同意,如果住戶沒有同意的話,恐怕這個經費補助下去,反而會適得其反。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:14.391000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:21.415000+08:00 |
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我想除了都更跟老宅之外,必須再找一條路出來,我們再跟國土署、內政部共同研議,謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:21.415000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:21.575000+08:00 |
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好,謝謝委員。謝謝。 |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
主席(李委員柏毅代) |
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2026-04-09T10:13:22.075000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:13:24.360714+08:00 |
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請廖先翔召委質詢。 |
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0 |