| IVOD_ID |
168341 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168341 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T10:06:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T10:18:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc77ebe413dcfe26704d16b10bbffbc7f678ce3249aa741ed41f774445f8f1023ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡春綢 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:06:44 - 10:18:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請運動部部長李洋列席就「如何落實全民運動、協助學校專項運動發展及運動科學發展成效之檢討等議題」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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部長早安我要請問部長你知不知道昨天晚上發生一件體育大事就是2026年台灣國際田徑公開賽昨天宣布要停職辦理那我要請問部長你知不知道這件事情 |
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知道跟委員報告知道知道那要解禁這件事情的時候田徑協會有沒有智慧定斷步跟委員您報告那其實從去年開始我們一直輔導各個協會在今年舉辦國際賽事的時候希望由這個公務預算來去指引那當然在基金這邊我們也有編列相關的預算因為避免可能會有相關的事情發生那我們也在今年開始因為現行的狀況來講我們也積極的什麼狀況 |
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什么状况不能启行因为我们是新成立的部会所以在预算法的规定下面我们没办法动用动之这个新兴计划 |
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部長我聽到你這樣講我很遺憾我們同都是你我都是提議人我們對於選手的權益我相信你都知道我們都要守護那這個比賽呢就是給選手一個最好的磨練的機會然後呢我們也要為選手呢守護他的權益然後為他提供更多的一個比賽比賽機會那如同如果 |
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部長你說的新成立的一個部會在經會上有問題有困難那部長你有沒有到立法院來協商 |
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跟委員您報告那這個在法定的程序上面我們確實沒有過但我們一直以來都從到昨天為止我們運動部同仁都積極與田協這邊來接下希望他們來輔導他們來使用這個基金的預算來去繼續舉辦這個田協的賽事也跟委員您報告那到昨天為止都還是這樣那我們今天也會繼續跟田協來去做後續的那希望他們這個可以繼續舉辦 |
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田徑賽事能夠繼續舉辦這是我們台灣唯一一個田徑有積分的賽事沒有錯而且是國際賽那根據那個田徑協會的秘書長他說的是他的考量是行政院呢到今 |
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今年的立法院總議帥一直無法通過因此被迫取消賽事我今天這計畫就政治化了那部長你知道嗎有一個新興計畫裡面有屬於 |
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應當品牌賽事有多少錢經費對有沒有通過有沒有三讀通過有沒有沒有經過法律程序的什麼叫做沒有沒有沒有經過那個法律程序都在立法院三讀通過請問部長你知道嗎啊 |
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有多少反對票有多少贊成的票是哪些黨同意要動用這一個款項是哪一個黨反對要動用這個款項部長你知道嗎跟委員您報告這部分我們還是會積極輔導那個田徑協會來去申請這一個基金的部分 |
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部長 我要就是很沉重的跟你提醒喔運動 尤其是教育跟運動不應該被政治綁架不應該政治化 |
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尤其運動選手是你我共同要保護的共同要守護的那不能讓政治來犧牲我們選手的一個潛意尤其是比賽尤其是國際比賽尤其是這個國際比賽是能夠讓世界看到台灣的而且也是讓我們台灣的選手可以花光花熱的一個賽事 |
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我覺得這樣的一個倉促的一個取消讓我們很驚訝那是不是請部長你在做在跟田徑協會做一個做一個協商跟委員您報告這個部分到昨天為止我們都還有積極協商然後今天我們也會積極跟田協來希望讓這個比賽繼續舉辦好的那我 |
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還要再跟部長講就是說這次呢 台灣田徑國際公開賽的賽事呢它是 就是選拔賽嘛 就是免股屋它還是有積分 打標嘛 一個積分的考量嘛對 一個積分的一個考量嘛所以呢 在 我們不應該有政治的一個考量應該我們要積極地來爭取這樣的一個比賽 這個賽事然後呢 |
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跟委員您報告我們確實一直在積極的輔導協會繼續舉辦這件事情對所以我們並沒有這個好那如果是這樣子的話我們就希望部長你能夠積極的來爭取這樣的一個機會我們也都知道那個選手是需要 |
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一而再 再而三的參加比賽那部長 你知道田徑選手他的一個運動年齡有多久他的一個登峰時期大概三至五年不像那個部長你是羽毛球的你可能你還可以把八年的奧運的一個金牌那你的那個羽球的一個運動年齡 |
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就是他運動的年齡比較長田徑不一樣田徑賽的選手因為他的體能是要做很強化的一個運動所以 |
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騰訊選手他的一個登峰時期大概3至5年所以我們要把握3至5年這個時間讓我們的選手能夠充分的來比賽所以像這樣這麼重大的一個賽事我們都不知道有沒有任何的一個訊息出來然後忽然間就宣布說要停辦所以讓我們非常非常的驚訝所以呢我希望呢 |
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部長你能夠站在運動員的一個立場一定要堅持所有的比賽所有的國際比賽我們都要去爭取所有的比賽就不應該沒有議警的就隨便的取消跟委員您報告那真的很感謝您對我們運動 |
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員的這個權益參賽國際賽事的這個權益這個重視那不管是今年剛提到的田徑協會的這部分的舉辦的賽事還是後續的一些國際賽事我們都已經正在積極跟各個協會去輔導使用這個基金的這個預算因為我們是新成立的部會所以我們去年還是有編列這個體育署的預算我們可以只是不能超支體育署的預算那我們在基金的這部分一直在輔導各個協會去使用因為對 |
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是的 運動部是承接體育署的但是體育署也應該都有編列這些相關的一個監會我們當時就是避免可能會遇到這樣的事情所以我們今年還是有編列相關的預算所以在這裡我還是要提醒李昂部長運動一定不能夠分黨派 |
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那也不能夠當成那個政治攻防或者是嫌棄工具因為從田徑協會這樣的公告就是因為凍結沒有監會嘛所以不辦嘛那就有點政治化因為我們其實我們早就通過了先先計畫8億的錢那個運動賽事的這個監會要讓運動部來致用 |
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這個時候呢 里昂部長你應該要去跟行政院長要求他趕快附屬這個新型計劃如果行政院長附屬了 公告了這筆錢就可以用了啦 |
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所以呢 我希望 這個是我幫你解套的如果要辦 你怕沒有經費 就是找行政院長就好了嘛找你們 走院長嘛 把這個經費呢附屬嘛 公告嘛 那就可以用啦 |
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跟委員您報告我們還是會積極輔導我們還是優先以保護選手參賽權為主所以我們還是積極輔導各個協會在舉辦台灣的賽事的部分可以今年先完成舉辦這件事情那比如說後續還有在花蓮舉辦的ICG的這個比賽我們都還是會積極的去輔導各個賽事的舉辦成功那就希望說這個各個協會能夠這個轉換這個申請的方式 |
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所以剛剛我就跟你這樣講嘛要跟那個行政院長去爭取啊那這是你應該要努力的這個監會都已經要給運動部來用了但是呢就是不附屬啊這個你要去爭取啊你要為我們選手去爭取這個監會啊 |
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跟委員您報告那確實在我覺得我們還是優先關心這個就如同委員您關心的運動員參賽的權利因為今年這個參賽的部分我們參賽的就如同委員您講的運動員的巔峰時間每一個項目不太一樣如果就您敘述的田徑可能3到5年的話那我們還是優先先把比賽辦好為最優先項目 |
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對 希望就是如部長你說的所以我們希望呢我們拿出我們運動員永不放棄這樣的一個精神為我們運動界為我們運動界來爭取更多的一個福利然後讓我我們兩個的立場應該都是一樣我們都是來守護我們的選手的讓我們選手能夠在我們積極的爭取很多的一個機會跟比賽的一個場地 |
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比賽的機會讓我們的選手能夠花光花樂我想我們都是同樣的一個立場雖然你是行政部門我是立法委員我們同樣希望在監督你就是要讓我們的選手能夠得到應有的一個權益謝謝委員那我們請部長就是說你跟田徑協會協商了怎麼樣的一個報告書請你送到本辦來那你跟田徑協會要協商多久 |
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跟委員您報告我們今天就會繼續跟其實我們到昨天都一直都有跟田徑協會接洽這個同仁都有跟他們接洽去想辦法這個讓這個基金可以去舉辦這個賽事 |
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剛剛我已經有跟你講了嘛報告方式是怎麼樣你就可以這個基金應該是沒有問題啦跟委員您報告我們今天還是會繼續跟田徑協會去做接洽那會後我們也會將我們了解到的部分提供給委員辦公室副董好好謝謝你們不要跟部長講齁就是我的辦公室的大門隨時為你開有什麼困難都可以到我的辦公室來協商我們一起來守護我們選手的一個權益好不好好 謝謝委員 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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主席、各位同仁，大家好。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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有請李部長。 |
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主席 |
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有請部長。 |
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李部長洋 |
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委員早安。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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部長早安。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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我要請問部長，你知不知道昨天晚上發生一件體育大事？知道。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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就是2026年臺灣國際田徑公開賽昨天宣布要停止辦理，我要請問部長，你知不知道這件事情？知道。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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知道，要決定這件事情的時候，田徑協會有沒有知會運動部？ |
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李部長洋 |
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跟委員報告，其實從去年開始，我們一直輔導各個協會，希望今年舉辦國際賽事都由公務預算來支應，當然在基金這邊我們也有編列相關的預算，避免可能的事情發生。 |
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李部長洋 |
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我們也在今年開始……因為現行的狀況來講，我們也積極輔導…… |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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是什麼狀況不能舉行？ |
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李部長洋 |
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因為我們是新成立的部會，所以在預算法的規定下，我們沒辦法動支新興計畫的預算。 |
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蔡委員春綢 |
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2026-04-09T10:08:43.897000+08:00 |
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部長，我聽到你這樣講，我很遺憾，你我都是體育選手來的，對於選手的權益，我相信你都知道，我們都要守護，比賽就是給選手一個最好的磨練機會，我們也要為選手守護他的權益，為他提供更多的比賽機會。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-09T10:08:44.637000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-09T10:08:55.309000+08:00 |
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如果同部長所說，新成立的部會在經費上有問題、有困難，部長，你有沒有到立法院來協商？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-09T10:08:57.015000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-09T10:09:14.850000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，在法定的程序上面，我們確實沒有過，但到昨天為止，我們運動部的同仁都一直積極與田協接洽，輔導他們使用基金的預算，繼續來舉辦田協的賽事。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-09T10:09:15.070000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-09T10:09:29.843000+08:00 |
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也跟委員報告，到昨天為止都還是這樣，我們今天也會繼續跟田協做後續的接洽，希望他們可以繼續舉辦田徑賽事，畢竟這是我們臺灣唯一一個田徑有積分的賽事。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-09T10:09:30.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-09T10:09:32.585000+08:00 |
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沒有錯，而且是國際賽。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-09T10:09:33.426000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-09T10:09:50.179000+08:00 |
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根據田徑協會的秘書長所說，他的考量是，到今年總預算在立法院一直無法通過，因此被迫取消賽事，我覺得這句話就政治化了。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.827 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-09T10:09:51.420000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:01.101000+08:00 |
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部長，你知道嘛，有一個新興計畫裡面有辦理運動品牌賽事，有多少經費？8億。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:01.101000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:04.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
對，有沒有三讀通過？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:05.386000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:06.507000+08:00 |
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沒有經過法定程序…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:07.348000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:10.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
什麼叫做沒有經過法定程序？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:10.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:14.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
都在立法院三讀通過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:14.216000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:23.700000+08:00 |
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請問部長，你知道有多少反對票、有多少贊成票嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:24.401000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:35.266000+08:00 |
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是哪些黨同意要動用這個款項、是哪一個黨反對要動用這個款項，部長，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:35.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-09T10:10:41.549000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，這部分我們還是會積極輔導田徑協會來申請這個基金。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-09T10:10:43.127000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-09T10:11:36.429000+08:00 |
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部長，我要很沉重地提醒你，教育跟運動不應該被政治綁架，不應該政治化，尤其運動選手是你我要共同保護的、共同守護的，不能讓政治來犧牲我們選手的權益，尤其國際比賽是能夠讓世界看到臺灣，而且也是讓臺灣選手可以發光發熱的一個賽事，這樣倉促的取消讓我們很驚訝，是不是請部長再跟田徑協會做協商？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-09T10:11:37.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-09T10:11:45.831000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，這個部分到昨天為止我們都還有積極協商，今天我們也會積極跟田協來溝通，希望讓這個比賽繼續舉辦。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-09T10:11:45.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:04.937000+08:00 |
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我還要再跟部長講，臺灣田徑國際公開賽的賽事被視為拚名古屋亞運的重點賽事，它還是有積分…… |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.675 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:04.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:06.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
達標，達標的積分分數。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:06.978000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:16.083000+08:00 |
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有達標、積分的考量，所以我們不應該有政治的操作，我們要積極爭取這樣的比賽、賽事，然後…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:21.966000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:28.470000+08:00 |
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我們確實一直積極的輔導協會繼續舉辦這件事情，所以我們並沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:32.432000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:42.279000+08:00 |
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如果是這樣子的話，我們希望部長能夠積極爭取機會。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:42.279000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-09T10:12:54.275000+08:00 |
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我們也都了解選手是需要一而再再而三的參加比賽，部長，你知道田徑選手的運動職涯有多長嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-09T10:12:55.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-09T10:13:33.990000+08:00 |
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他巔峰時期大概3至5年，不像部長是羽毛球選手，羽球運動職涯比較長，你可能還可以打8年奧運拿金牌，但田徑不一樣，因為是高強度的運動，田徑選手巔峰時期大概3至5年，所以我們要把握3至5年讓我們選手能夠充分的參賽。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.708 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-09T10:13:34.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-09T10:13:43.977000+08:00 |
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像這麼重大的一個賽事，我們都不知道，也有沒有任何的訊息出來，忽然間就宣布要停辦，讓我們非常非常的驚訝！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-09T10:13:43.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-09T10:14:02.073000+08:00 |
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所以我希望部長能夠站在運動員的立場，一定要堅持，所有的比賽、所有的國際比賽，我們都要去爭取，所有的比賽都不應該沒有預警隨便的取消。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-09T10:14:04.255000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-09T10:14:22.142000+08:00 |
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真的很感謝委員對我們運動員參賽國際賽事權益的重視，不管是剛剛提到今年田徑協會舉辦的賽事，還是後續的一些國際賽事，我們都正在積極輔導各個協會使用基金的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.89 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-09T10:14:22.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-09T10:14:33.466000+08:00 |
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因為我們是新成立的部會，所以我們去年還是有編列預算在體育署，只是不能超過體育署的預算，但是我們在基金的部分一直輔導各個協會去使用。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-09T10:14:34.746000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-09T10:14:42.690000+08:00 |
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是，運動部是承接體育署，但是體育署應該都有編列這些相關的經費。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-09T10:14:44.050000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-09T10:14:50.013000+08:00 |
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當時就是避免可能會遇到這樣的事情，所以我們今年還是有編列相關的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-09T10:14:52.374000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:15:07.885000+08:00 |
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好，在這裡我還是要提醒李洋部長，運動一定不能夠分黨派，也不能夠當成政治攻防或者是選舉工具。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-09T10:15:09.467000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:15:19.716000+08:00 |
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從田徑協會這樣的公告，它說因為凍結、沒有經費所以不辦，這就有點政治化，但是其實我們早就通過了新興計畫8億運動賽事的經費要讓運動部來支用。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-09T10:15:26.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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2026-04-09T10:15:42.837000+08:00 |
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李洋部長，在這個時候你應該要跟行政院長要求趕快副署新興計畫，如果行政院長副署公告了，這筆錢就可以用了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-09T10:15:47.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-09T10:15:55.881000+08:00 |
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這個是我幫你解套，如果要辦但怕沒有經費，就是找行政院長就好了嘛，找你們卓院長把這一個經費副署公告那就可以用了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-09T10:16:01.588000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-09T10:16:21.846000+08:00 |
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我們還是會積極輔導，還是以優先保護選手參賽權為主，所以我們還是積極輔導各個協會在舉辦臺灣賽事的部分，今年可以先完成舉辦這件事情，後續比如還有在花蓮舉辦的ICG比賽，我們都是會積極的輔導，讓各個賽事舉辦成功，因此希望各個協會能夠轉換申請的方式。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-09T10:16:27.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-09T10:16:42.994000+08:00 |
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好，所以剛剛我跟你說了，要跟行政院長去爭取，這是你應該要努力的，經費都已經要給運動部來用了，但是就是不副署，這個你要去爭取，要為我們選手去爭取這個經費啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-09T10:16:49.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-09T10:16:52.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
我們還是優先關心運動員，就如同委員您關心運動員參賽的權益…… |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-09T10:16:52.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-09T10:16:53.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
對，對，我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-09T10:16:52.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:07.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
因為今年參賽的部分……就如同委員您講的，運動員的巔峰時間每一個項目不太一樣，如果就您敘述田徑是3到5年的話，我們還是會將辦好比賽列為最優先項目。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:09.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:12.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
對，好，希望如部長說的。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:13.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:37.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
希望你們拿出運動員永不放棄這樣的精神，為我們運動界爭取更多的福利，我們兩個的立場應該都是一樣，我們都是來守護選手的，我們積極的爭取很多經費跟比賽的機會，讓我們的選手能夠發光發熱。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:38.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:47.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我想我們都是同樣的立場，雖然你是行政部門，我是立法委員，同樣的，監督你就是要讓我們的選手能夠得到應有的權益。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:47.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:47.116000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:47.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:48.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
請部長把與田徑協會協商的結果一份報告書送到本辦來。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.76 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-09T10:17:48.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-09T10:17:49.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
你跟田徑協會要協商多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:05.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:17.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我們今天會繼續……其實到昨天，我們同仁一直都有跟田徑協會接洽，想辦法讓基金可以去舉辦這個賽事…… |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:20.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:24.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
剛才我已經有跟你說了解套的方式，這樣你就可以……這個基金應該是沒有問題啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:25.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:35.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們今天還是會繼續跟田徑協接洽，會後我們也會將我們了解到的部分提供給委員辦公室，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
蔡委員春綢 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:35.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:44.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我要跟部長講，我辦公室的大門隨時為你開，有什麼困難都可以到我的辦公室來協商，我們一起來守護運動員、選手的權益，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:44.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:44.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
好，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:44.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:47.113714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
謝謝蔡委員的詢答。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-09T10:18:47.413714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-09T10:18:49.985143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
下一位請郭昱晴委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |