| IVOD_ID |
168280 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168280 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T11:53:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T12:03:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb0821d2a9cedfa8cbdf747912251df08273efd812baa63ee58f8f891d2cf65ac865ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:53:12 - 12:03:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長林宜敬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【4月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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好,謝謝主席,是不是請部長好,我們請部長 |
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陳委員好林部長經過最近這幾個會期的切磋我想蘇發部也體認到立法院對蘇發部的監督非常嚴格那麼打砸來各方面都有具體的成效我也恭喜當然我們準備要審預算了這個對你們的預算很有幫助我想 |
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學生在交通委員會也願意幫速發部在審議的時候我也願意幫你們多講幾句話當然各位同仁要努力是我們會努力最近我跟另外公務跟馬祖地檢署 |
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一個主任檢察官有通電話有時候他有時候也會來請安他那個請安裡面什麼早安什麼的他不要貪小便宜或是幹什麼都會有警示語在裡面我覺得這很好每個公務員如果都有這樣的一個觀念像速發部或是我們立法院同仁或是誰草木皆兵即使說 |
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你領到什麼獎金通知你然後戶頭請你告訴我把資訊告訴我我都會被上當喔我看你這也是詐騙喔我自己都嚇一跳耶你知道嗎然後會心生警惕這很重要好我現在跟你講到正題最近剛才許副委員也提到說海嵐斷了現在是國安的問題 |
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現在麻煩了國安到底是國安還是說不小心碰到了還是幹什麼我剛才講的就是跟馬祖這個地檢署有過這樣的聯絡因為上一次前幾個月有沒有有碰到一個大陸漁船跟我們海南也弄斷了 |
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弄壞了不是弄斷了後來我也協調中華電信也出面搞了好久後來這個人現在已經送回去了剛才我在隔壁那邊我也回來向劉部長來質詢 |
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這一個人回去以後他又把台灣的四十幾個人球全部丟到馬祖去也想用借用類似的方式引渡到大陸去這是你公布門的事啊我們私底下協調這個事情是福建這邊在處理的他有分福建跟北京北京也來關鍵說你福建怎麼沒有經過我北京的同意你怎麼可以這樣處理啊這又是一個問題出來了那我今天問的是3月21號又來了一個案子 |
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閩連漁船63896,他這個船漏水進水了後來修復棄船棄船以後這個船在海上在浮在沉的,漂到哪裡?漂到東引的北澳漂到東引北澳那個船不能在那邊就這樣子啊那我們要他們漁船說你們趕快找人來救援啊他找了大陸的 |
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海鴻宮66號平台船救援平台船是很大的問題又來了這台平台船跑來救援把船體要移動這個平台船又碰到我們的海纜很像是3號還是2號我想部長有沒有接到通報應該是3號吧 |
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三號海嵐你了解狀況嗎?能夠回報一下看看目前什麼狀況?是,鮑委員確實如您所跟我們才指基本上台馬三號海嵐在3月30日在3月30日深夜的時候發生這個故障當時的狀況是因為有一個中國籍的 |
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海鴻公66號平台在那邊施工但是呢因為發生海產故障但是目前為止所有的訊息都只是懷疑是他施工而已並沒有確切的證據那後續海運署也發了一個通告因為這是一個計劃性的施工是由台灣的航政單位跟相關單位開會協調完以後一個施工的情形並不是一個突然來做破壞的一個狀況 |
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那現在海運署已經請中華電信會派潛水員到海底的那個位置看海岸破壞情形到底是發生什麼狀況他前面已經下去了是是所以那後續的報告我們只能夠等到後續的報告才出來那現在海運署根據他們的新聞稿已經移送給相關的馬祖的連鄉縣的地檢署在做調查而已 調查 以上報告 |
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地檢署也沒說要幹什麼啊地檢署我也沒給他移送啊也沒幹什麼啊沒有沒有那除非你中華電力來告人家如果中華電力告人家的話那中華電力如果告人家這裡面牽扯國安的話哇那開會我去看那個開會參加的單位八九個勒七八個十個勒那麼多單位然後大陸又在關鍵這個事情大陸現在跟我們官方沒有來往 |
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昨天晚上大陸又打電話給我說北京也非常關切這個事情你曉得馬祖跟對面的地緣關係是非常的敏感我們不希望因為你台灣有台灣海峽 |
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我們馬祖近在咫尺,我們兩邊的關係都保持得良好我們也不希望有任何不好的事情發生所以他想說,能不能弄一個民間的團體,到這邊來有關漁船的糾紛能夠協助處理尤其是這個海嵐,現在動不動就扯到國安 |
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是不是,那很多委員都擔心海南一段了是不是對面在搞一些軍方的事情啊等等都有疑慮嘛,是不是所以現在他們也擔心因為這個海鴻宮啊,是個工作平台船很貴耶,那一天不知道美金多少錢你現在給它綁在那邊我看了他們的報告復工計畫要到4月8號才提復工計畫 |
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四月八號復工計畫他們也建議說船最好不要動那你平台船不動的話海嵐在平台船底下你動的話他就一拉扯一拉扯你本來斷了十三根好啦萬一再斷了一百多根那這個帳怎麼算是不是那你要賠這個一賠就幾百萬幾千萬的 |
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這個你要把人家公司搞垮,我為了去救這個漁船你把人家公司搞垮,所以對方也是老公那邊也是很擔心這個事情那我們這裡呢地檢署說我沒管你啊,是你海巡啊然後你把那個船長又把他放在南竿這個船是在北竿,船員又在船上那如果浪大的話 |
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這個平台船在上面沒有船長的狀況你看沒有船長飛機如果沒有駕駛員的話飛機在空中會發生什麼事這個亂飆亂撞的話那又是一個定時炸彈那萬一出了狀況誰負責啊那地檢署說你們也沒向我告狀啊我不告不理啊對不對那你海巡什麼態度呢海巡要看你們什麼速發部啦什麼中華貼信啊這單位可多了 |
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那你們再不表示意見好了我看這個問題很大市長你有沒有辦法解決這個問題 |
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因為當時的計畫施工是行政單位的一個計畫又多了一個海港局所以海港局應該跟海巡署會去做這方面的討論那至於速發部的部分的話我們就會根據中華電信的實際的海底勘查的狀況來做後續的應酬不是啊 海港局說海南關我海港局什麼事嗎我海港局只管港口還有海水海裡面的魚我也管不到是不是 |
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這海嵐又不是我航港局管的我了解委員的意思我們抒發部會盡快的去協調讓這個事情一方面趕快修復而一方面趕快把這個事情處理好你這回答就有guess對不對你主任單位嘛你不要像高雄昨天出那個什麼事件那個吃那個什麼東西高雄啊潤餅潤餅潤餅潤餅說要 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
548.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
553.426 |
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檢調單位去查我說你衛生單位在睡覺啊你主政單位是衛生局嘛這個也要調查局喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
557.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
584.016 |
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檢察官檢察系統來喔沒道理嘛你是組政單位嘛怎麼叫海港去查咧怎麼叫什麼什麼什麼海巡去查咧好不好部長我想這個關於海嵐的管理事實上真的是分工相當複雜但是我們速發部如果沒這回事你不要去搞人家嘛你把人家弄成那個船在那邊幹什麼咧反正你是老共的船嘛我也不管你給他搞個30天50天搞個3個月5個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
586.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
611.055 |
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好不好 不要留下不好的印象嘛是 好 沒問題部長這個弄完 牛市長那邊給我回報一下好不好是我想部長很忙啦 我不好意思勞動他市長這邊起碼去了解一下狀況 整合一下整合一下好不好是你不要推給海巡也不要推給什麼航港局他們那些單位不會有太多意見啦問題是中華電信啦 你給我弄清楚好不好是好 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:17.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:19.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席，是不是請部長？ |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:19.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:19.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:25.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:25.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
陳委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:26.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:42.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
林部長，經過最近這幾個會期的切磋，我想數發部也體認到立法院對數發部的監督非常嚴格，在打詐各方面都有具體的成效，我也恭喜。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:42.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:43.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
謝謝委員的肯定。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:42.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-08T11:53:59.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
當然我們準備要審預算了，這個對你們的預算很有幫助，雪生在交通委員會也願意幫數發部，在審議的時候我也願意幫你們多講幾句話。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:59.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:00.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
非常感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-08T11:53:59.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:00.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
當然各位同仁要努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:01.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:02.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
是，我們會努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:02.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:33.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
最近我因為公務跟馬祖地檢署一個主任檢察官有通電話，他有時候也會來請安，他那個請安裡面，早安什麼的，不要貪小便宜或是幹什麼，都會有警示語在裡面，我覺得這很好，每個公務員如果都有這樣的觀念，像數發部或是我們立法院同仁，或者誰啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:33.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:42.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
草木皆兵，即使說你領到什麼獎金通知你，然後戶頭請你告訴我，把資訊告訴我，欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:44.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:45.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
我都會被上當喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:45.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:45.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
我看了以後，啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:46.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:47.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
這也是詐騙喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:48.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:50.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
我自己都嚇一跳，你知道嗎？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:50.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-08T11:54:52.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
然後會心生警惕，這很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-08T11:54:54.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:03.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
好，我現在跟你講到正題，剛才徐富癸委員也提到海纜斷了現在是國安的問題，現在很麻煩耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-08T11:55:04.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:23.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
到底是國安，還是不小心碰到，還是幹什麼，我剛才講的就是跟馬祖地檢署有過這樣的聯絡，因為上一次，前幾個月有碰到一個大陸漁船把我們海纜弄斷了，弄壞了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-08T11:55:23.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:30.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
不是弄斷了，後來我也協調，中華電信也出面，搞了好久，這個人現在已經送回去了。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-08T11:55:31.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:46.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
剛才我在隔壁內政委員會還向劉部長在質詢，這一個人回去以後，他又把臺灣的四十幾個人球全部丟到馬祖去，也想借用類似的方式引渡到大陸，那這是你公部門的事啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-08T11:55:47.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:53.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我們私底下協調，這件事情是福建這邊在處理的，它有分福建跟北京耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-08T11:55:54.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-08T11:55:58.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
北京也來關切你福建沒有經過我北京的同意，你怎麼可以這樣處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:00.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:01.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
這又是一個問題出來了。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:02.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:18.291000+08:00 |
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那我今天問的是，3月21日又來了一個案子，「閩連漁63896」這個船漏水、進水了，後來宣布棄船，棄船以後這個船在海上載浮載沉地飄到哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:18.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:23.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
飄到東引的北澳，飄到東引北澳，那個船不能在那邊就這樣子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:24.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:36.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
我們要他們漁船趕快找人來救援，他找了大陸的「海虹工66」平臺船，救援平臺船是很大的。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:38.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:47.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
好了，問題又來了，這一臺平臺船跑來救援打撈，這個船體要移動，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.633 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:47.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:54.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
這個平臺船又碰到我們的海纜，好像是3號還是2號，部長有沒有接到通報？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:54.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:55.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
有，有收到這個通報。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:54.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:54.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
應該是3號吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:54.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:57.059500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
是不是3號？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:57.059500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-08T11:56:59.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
牛司長。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-08T11:56:59.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:01.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
3號海纜，你瞭解狀況嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:02.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:04.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
回報一下，看看目前什麼狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:04.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:11.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
報告委員，確實如您剛才所指，基本上臺馬3號海纜在…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:11.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:12.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
你麥克風對準一點。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:11.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:33.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
在3月30日深夜的時候發生故障，當時的狀況是有一個中國籍的「海虹工66」平臺船在那邊施工，但是因為發生海纜故障，到目前為止，所有的訊息都只是懷疑是它施工而已，並沒有確切的證據。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:33.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:57.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
後續海巡署也發了一個通告，因為這是計畫性的施工，是由臺灣的航政單位跟相關單位開會協調完以後一個施工的情形，並不是突然來做破壞的狀況，現在海巡署已經請中華電信派潛水人員到海底的那個位置，看海纜破壞情形到底是發生什麼狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:57.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-08T11:57:58.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
他前天已經下去了。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-08T11:57:59.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:14.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
是，那我們只能夠等後續的報告出來，現在根據海巡署的新聞稿，已經移送給馬祖的連江縣地檢署在做調查而已，以上報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:16.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:18.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
地檢署也沒說要幹什麼啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:19.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:21.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
地檢署說我也沒給他移送，也沒幹什麼。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:21.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:22.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
沒有、沒有，到目前為止。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:22.743000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:24.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
除非你中華電信告人家。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:25.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:27.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
如果中華電信告人家的話，那應該是…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:27.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:30.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
中華電信如果告人家，這裡面又牽扯到國安的話，哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:33.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:36.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我去看了那個開會參加的單位，有8、9個耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:38.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-08T11:58:38.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
7、8個，10個耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-08T11:58:39.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:00.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
那麼多單位，然後大陸又在關切這件事情，大陸現在跟我們官方沒有來往，昨天晚上大陸又打電話給我說北京也非常關切這件事情，你曉得馬祖跟對面的地緣關係是非常地敏感，因為臺灣有臺灣海峽，我們馬祖近在咫尺嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.945 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:01.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:19.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我們兩邊的關係都保持良好，我們也不希望有任何不好的事情發生，所以他講說能不能弄一個民間的團體到這邊來，有關漁船的糾紛能夠協助處理，尤其是海纜，現在動不動就扯到國安，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:20.362000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:29.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
很多委員都擔心海纜一斷是不是對面在搞一些軍方的事情等等，都有疑慮嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:31.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:32.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
所以現在他們也擔心。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:32.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:37.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
因為「海虹工」是個工作平臺船，很貴耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:37.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:39.991000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
一天不知道要美金多少錢耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:39.991000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-08T11:59:51.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
你現在給它綁在那邊，我看了他們的報告，要到4月8日才提復工計畫，4月8日復工計畫，他們也建議最好不要動。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-08T11:59:52.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:02.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
平臺船不動的話，海纜在平臺船底下，你動的話，它一拉扯，本來斷了13根，好了！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:03.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:06.495000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
萬一再斷一百多根，那這個帳怎麼算啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:09.077000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:10.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
這個一賠就幾百萬、幾千萬的耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:14.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:15.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
要把人家公司搞垮喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:15.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:22.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
為了去救這條漁船，你把人家公司搞垮，所以老共那邊也是很擔心這個事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:26.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:27.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
「我沒管你啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:27.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:29.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
是你海巡啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:30.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:47.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
」然後你把那個船長放在南竿，這個船是在北竿，船員又在船上，如果浪大的話，這個平臺船上面沒有船長的話……飛機如果沒有駕駛員的話，飛機在空中會發生什麼事？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:49.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:51.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
亂漂、亂撞的話，那又是一個定時炸彈耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:52.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:53.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
萬一出了狀況，誰負責啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:55.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-08T12:00:58.960000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
地檢署說：「你們也沒向我告狀啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-08T12:00:59.340000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:00.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我不告不理啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:00.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:01.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
」對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:01.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:02.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
那海巡什麼態度呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:04.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:09.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
海巡要看你們數發部、中華電信，單位可多了！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:11.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:12.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
那你們再不表示意見，好了！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:15.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:16.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我看這個問題很大耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:17.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:18.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
司長，你有沒有辦法解決這個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:20.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:24.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
報告委員，因為當時的計畫施工是航政單位的一個計畫……對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.72 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:24.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:26.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
又多了一個航港局！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:26.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:27.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
又來了！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:27.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:31.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
對，所以航港局應該會跟海巡署去做這方面的討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:31.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:38.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
至於數發部的部分，我們就會根據中華電信實際海底勘查的狀況來做後續的應處。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳委員雪生：不是啊！航港局說 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:38.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:40.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
「海纜關我航港局什麼事嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳委員雪生：不是啊！航港局說 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:42.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:47.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我航港局只管港口還有海水，海裡面的魚我也管不到，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
陳委員雪生：不是啊！航港局說 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:49.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:51.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
這海纜又不是我航港局管的！」 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:52.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-08T12:01:57.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
我了解委員的意思，我們數發部會儘快地去協調。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-08T12:01:59.157000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:02.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
一方面趕快修復，一方面趕快把這個事情處理，該處理的就處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:02.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:03.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
部長，對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:03.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:06.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
你這樣回答就有guts，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:06.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:06.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
你是主政單位嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:08.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:10.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
你不要像高雄昨天出了一個叫什麼事件？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:11.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:13.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
吃那個什麼東西？潤餅。潤餅？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:13.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:20.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
潤餅說要檢調單位去查？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:21.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:23.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
我說你衛生單位在睡覺啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:24.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:25.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
主政單位是衛生局嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:25.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:25.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
這個也要調查局喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:29.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:30.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
也要檢察官、檢察系統來喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:30.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:31.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
那沒道理嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:32.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:33.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
你是主政單位嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:33.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:35.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
怎麼叫航港局去查咧？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:35.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:38.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
怎麼叫海巡去查咧？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:38.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:38.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
部長，我想你就負起責任。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:38.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:41.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
好，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:41.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:44.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
關於海纜的管理，事實上真的是分工相當複雜，但是我們數發部一定會去…… |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:44.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:47.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
如果沒這回事，你不要去搞人家嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:47.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:51.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
你把人家弄的那個船在那邊幹什麼呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:51.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:52.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
是，我們趕快釐清事實。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:51.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:54.195000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
你想說反正是老共的船，我也不管你，給它搞個30天？ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:55.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:55.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
50天搞個3個月、5個月！沒錯！是！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-04-08T12:02:58.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-04-08T12:02:59.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
不要留下不好的印象嘛！是！ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:00.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:01.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
好，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:01.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:04.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
部長，這個弄完，牛司長那邊給我回報一下，好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:04.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:06.365000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
我想部長很忙啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:06.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:13.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
我不好意思勞動他，那司長這邊起碼去了解一下狀況，整合一下，好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:14.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:16.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
你不要推給海巡，也不要推給什麼航港局！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:17.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:19.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
他們那些單位不會有太多意見啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:19.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:20.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
問題是中華電信啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:20.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:22.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
你給我弄清楚，好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:23.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:23.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:23.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:24.697857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:24.997857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:26.140714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:26.440714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:30.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
好，謝謝陳雪生委員，也謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
主席（陳委員雪生代） |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-04-08T12:03:30.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-04-08T12:03:33.026429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
下一位請黃健豪召委。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |