| IVOD_ID |
168242 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168242 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T10:51:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T10:59:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb0a99ed55ecb832b82a7afadf2dd1952ecce185cfc45202cc07c3c93a5258e3a4e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:51:39 - 10:59:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長及台灣中油股份有限公司董事長、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、財政部首長、行政院主計總處首長就「台美關稅協定（ART）中關於『擴大採購及購買』（原油、天然氣、發電設備等）項目之評估、規劃及涉及之問題與工作，並就台灣中油股份有限公司之增資案」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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鄭天才委員質詢好 主席 邀請國務部長還有中郵的董事長邀請國務部長 邀請中郵方董事長 |
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這個根據經濟部今天的報告特別提到這個依據台美關稅協定第6.2條及副表3這個請問一下這個協定生效了嗎還沒有還沒有是因為什麼原因 |
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因為美國他的這個法例原來是依據IPA嘛那現在IPA最高法院他是說這個可能總統的職權有超過所以他現在法律的這個依據正在正在做一些調整所以因為還沒有也還沒有送立法院嘛對不對事實上也要這個未來會不會送會就是會依這個條約締結法 |
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這個第八條這個要送立法院審議所以這個也還沒有送好那從這個你的報告裡面特別提到這個向美國採購444億美元之原油及天然氣這個是要增加嗎增加原來就採購嘛我們從 |
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包括原來已經在採購的部分就是還會增加就對了 增加採購就算是沒有這個協定 如果按照你的報告在原油部分 中油公司從2017年就開始採購美國原油 |
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這是事實嘛現在還是有在採購嘛那美國當然希望我們買多一點嘛所以才會放在這個協定裡面那現在因為有這個美以伊的戰爭中東相關的這些原油這些會受到包括很多的都會受到影響 |
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所以現在就可以就算沒有協定的時候也向他採購沒有協定沒有生效你要跟他增加購買他更高興美國更高興是不是這樣董事長是不是這樣沒有錯包括這個 |
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在你的報告裡面也有提到這個天然氣異化天然氣的部分這個也是這個要增加每年預估希望增加這個增加購買像這樣的一個情形之下我就很納悶你們等一下可以說明因為 |
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按照中油公司汽柴油價格的這些指標油價70%杜拜30%布蘭特對不對這是一個你們的一個價格調幅的一個但是你們是用這樣的價格去出售給我們的人民的 |
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對,但是你試上美國的油你也增加,還可以增加你增加買他更喜歡啊所以在這樣的情形之下你買了比較便宜的油然後你賣出去是按照你原來的指標油價70%是杜拜,30%是布蘭特每桶,每桶的美元 |
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那應該是你收益啊收的更多啊那為什麼還會有這個虧損呢是不是董事長要不要說明一下是喔謝謝委員跟委員報告齁其實這個所謂D跟B啊它之間的關係齁忽高忽低啦齁那麼這個公式本身是算一個漲幅而不是算那個絕對值 |
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所以對於這個議題有關D跟B的比例我們也尊重委員以及社會大眾的意見我們會再做一個重新的檢討那對於這個所謂7D3B的比例要不要去做一個調整那這部分我們會請第三機關幫我們做個檢視 |
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所以你們有沒有一個預估的期限?半年半年,所以還可以多長半年,可以多賣買了比較便宜,然後多賣一點給人民半年所以你可以說明一下,那為什麼還會虧損? |
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所以這個剛剛所提到說會不會對消費者來講多收我想這個大家不要有這個疑慮因為在整個機制裡面這個是算那個漲幅第二個我們也要求是要啞鈴最低價所以在啞鈴最低價等等機制裡面事實上已經在這個部分做了一個控管了 |
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好 這樣那個時間的關係你在做比較詳細的說明為什麼還會虧損 按照你你買的時候比較便宜 你賣的時候是按照你原來的所以還漲價所以這個部分那為什麼還是虧損這個部分你在做詳細的書面的說明那我們看這個你的報告裡面 |
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這裡面提到因應國際情勢這經濟部的報告因應國際情勢定了一個特別條例特別預算那這個部長或是中友是不是已經在這個特別預算裡面來撥補了 |
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現在行政院還在規劃當中就是說現在有三個部分一個是專案貸款來協助他第二個就是預算的撥補第三個是增資那預算的撥補到底要用什麼樣的情況是要用特別預算還是怎麼樣的預算來這個可能行政院他還在有一些考量 |
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但是這個三個方向這個要去積極的跟行政院爭取因為這個特別條例裡面特別提到為因應國際情勢變化對我國經濟產業民生 |
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這當然跟產業跟人生都有關係啦符合特別條例的第一條的規定事實上這個特別條例特別預算它在各部會之間都可以 |
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互相的融資跟一般的公務預算來得方便所以這個部分要請經濟部為中油特別的去加強的協調謝謝委員的建議 |