| IVOD_ID |
168227 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168227 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T10:13:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T10:23:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb00e618a2e4dd1462fa7afadf2dd1952ec212c5ce4660756d3165d56d12b5959f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭正鈐 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:13:27 - 10:23:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長及台灣中油股份有限公司董事長、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、財政部首長、行政院主計總處首長就「台美關稅協定（ART）中關於『擴大採購及購買』（原油、天然氣、發電設備等）項目之評估、規劃及涉及之問題與工作，並就台灣中油股份有限公司之增資案」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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接下來請這個鄭振前委員質詢 |
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謝謝主席我想請一下經濟部我們公民新工部長還有我們中油的方志仁董事長經貿談判辦公室的徐崇清執行秘書謝謝鄭委員早安何部長好謝謝主席今天安排跟能源有關係的部分那我想說特別來 |
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針對中油的部分因為我們目前大概是油電大概都先動啦那我想對民生來講動當然是一件好事不過對整個政策來講的時候可能就不一定是這樣子那我們看到中油109元到113元的話政策性補貼油價整個金額高達5786億元非常非常的多啦那為什麼會這樣我相信有很多的部分都是因為 |
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油價的一個補貼政策所導致我想請教一下部長114年政策性補貼政策性的那個補貼大概會有多少金額 |
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2025年沒有都沒有就114年完全沒有補貼嗎OK好那我再想說所以說114年的整個政策性負擔是零是零OK好那這件好事那我想說我們再來看一下中油的 |
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營業外費用齁中國的營業外費用的時候一百一十四年營業外費用的時候預算數是一百九十五點六六億然後整個決算數是三百零 |
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8億齁整個相差112.3億其實非常的高齁將近快要六成的一個差額啦齁那這樣子這麼多的一個業外的一個費用的時候齁那我們看到它整個業外的結構就是資產減損這邊是最主要的一個部分我想請教一下部長齁或者是董事長這個資產減損的部分齁主要是用在什麼地方為什麼會有這麼高的一個金額就是以114年來講齁 |
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那麼這個油價它是從高點往低點落那我們在國外有一些礦區它有一些油氣權益到年底的時候要重新去評估它的資產所以相對來講就做了一個資產的減損 |
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所以這個減損部分是因為在對岸的一個投資當中的這個整個結算之後的一個結果對不對不是就是地底下的油跟氣那個還沒有拿出來這個部分的資產他有減損大概減損100多億這樣子 |
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有100多億是在這個部分嗎好理解那我想說接下來我想問一下有關於阿拉斯加的部分因為中油這邊要怎麼樣子讓它的體質更健全我想說很重要那董事長剛剛有提到說我們大概119年希望說能夠 |
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整個投資的部分能夠占到10%啦那目前都沒有嘛那我就特別關注到阿拉斯加這個部分因為阿拉斯加這個部分董事長剛剛是特別提到說我們阿拉斯加這邊的時候要不要投資投資多少錢都還沒有具體的一個東西出來對不對 |
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OK那可是呢我看到了我們就是基本上就中油對於阿拉斯加這個部分已經有一個預估未來會從這邊採購每年600萬噸那這個數字是怎麼來的 |
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首先報告委員首先我說明一下剛剛那個邱委員所質詢有關10%的部分那個是指礦產的理解阿拉斯加投資站跟這個礦產沒有關係那阿拉斯加投資的時候他是 |
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那個油管的部分投資嘛 理解我們現在我想問的狀態為什麼會問到這個部分是因為中東這個事情讓我們看到我們的天然氣油源其實需要更多元化就像我們能源政策也必須要多元化是一樣的道理 |
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部長之前有特別提到說我們目前對美國採購的天然氣大概是14%到15%那我們到2032年的時候希望能夠提高到27%這天然氣的部分油的部分的時候我們有沒有怎麼樣子去做一個多元化的一個配比重新配比的一個政策 |
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目前我們跟美國採購的LNG是10%我們預估到因為中東那個情勢我想大家也了解他確實產生了一些影響所以對於LNG進口整體佈局中東公司必須要重新慎重思考 |
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那麼當中對美國的採購LNG變成是我們主要的一個考慮對象我們預估到2029年我們的佔比我們希望能達到大概25%的一個從美國採購的LNG到25% |
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OK那對於阿拉斯加這個案子的時候目前進度大概到哪裡然後台灣是確定會去投阿拉斯加的油管採購他們的油源這個政策是確定的是不是 |
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阿拉斯加這個案子就是從去年的3月20號的所謂MOU可以看出來主要是兩項一個是採購LNG一個是投資採購LNG的部分是列在ART裡面 |
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那目前的進度呢目前進度就是說美方他的安排的進度呢是希望在今年年底以前呢能夠把這個採購簽約呢雙方都能夠談到談定希望在年底前把它談定所以今年年底的時候年底前的時候阿拉斯加這個案會確定然後台灣確實也有這個意願那再談這些細節了對不對我講的是採購案是那麼現在談一些主要的主要的條款 |
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OK 理解那我最後這邊我想特別針對CPTPP這部分因為之前經貿談判辦公室閻惠欣副總談判代表的時候這事情我們大家都非常的難過不過因為他特別提到了針對CPTPP這邊的時候政府對這部分的一個消極跟敷衍然後卓院長也確實也 |
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不諱言的表示過去一年我們對這部分確實沒有特別的一個著力所以卓院長也特別在3月27號的時候表示接下來定定CPTPP的一個目標時程我想請問一下執密跟部長我們目前這個針對CPTPP的一個目標時程定下來了沒有 |
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像委員報告我們都配合院里長官的要求那我們會做全面的盤點然後具體的目標時程定下來了沒有有沒有進一步的內容 |
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因為相關的工作還在進行當中請大概什麼時候可以給本席一個很具體的內容到本席辦公室來做一個說明 好不好是那另外一個部分 因為我們看到了就是台灣在整個 |
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ECA跟FTA的一個入口網站當中我們看到台灣的一個貿易夥伴確實是少的卻不太夠那麼我覺得目前有幾個不同的做法我們對於有一些mini deals的部分一些比較零散式的一個協議 |
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可以來彌補這樣的一個不足因為要進入到一個國際組織相關的部分我知道台灣有它現階段的一些難處那我們要怎麼樣透過一些mini deals的部分的時候來解決這個問題包括我們之前跟台美21世貿易倡議大概都是屬於類似的一個狀態還有包括台日的一個數位貿易協議還有台加投資促進及保障協議都算是這樣的一個mini deals的部分我想請教一下目前台灣 |
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還有哪些正在進行當中要鎖定哪些國家哪些的議題是我們現在正在積極處理的mini deals的部分嗎可以請執秘這邊特別做個說明是 向委員報告就是說這些相關的經貿協議行政經貿談判辦公室都是跟相關部會一起在推動那至於說目前在進行談判中的deal |
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因為我們國際情勢的關係那我們的對手國通常都不希望我們在簽署之前理解 我在想說為什麼我特別提到這部分就是說我們要真正加入一些相關的經貿基金組織不容易所以我們希望針對這個部分能夠對於我們的產業有一些很具體的幫忙 |
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那我們也像經濟部這邊的時候跟金華談判公司這邊能夠盡量的更合作的時候能夠讓產業從這個部分來解決現在的問題因為目前整個我們東亞的相關的國家在這個部分他們都很積極都跑得很快那我不希望台灣在這邊遠離踏步好不好好 謝謝 |