iVOD / 16822

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IVOD_ID 16822
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16822
日期 2025-07-18
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-3-21
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期第21次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 21
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期第21次會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2025-07-18T08:30:15+08:00
結束時間 2025-07-18T12:41:00+08:00
影片長度 04:10:45
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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會議時間 2025-07-18T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第3會期第21次會議(事由:第11屆第3會期第21次會議 一、討論事項:本院台灣民眾黨黨團,建請院會作成決議:「行政院主計總處應依立法院審議中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案通案刪減之決議意旨,由中央各機關及所屬編列之預算刪減調整,並立即將一般性補助款足額撥付予地方政府。」是否有當?請公決案等11案。二、7月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、7月22日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 就在这样子的灾后时刻,赖清德总统南下视察,当灾民低声下气地说,不敢爬上屋顶,盖帆布,总统竟然淡淡地回了一句,自己爬。这不仅是一句失言,更是一种心态的显露,一个站在权力顶端的人,对苦难的轻描淡写,对人民处境的冷漠无感。
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 災後處境不僅是體現在烏瓦之上也體現在整個遭受颱風摧毀的光電設施之間這次颱風重創嘉南沿海造成33處的光電廠損毀超過14萬片光電模組破損漂浮沉沒甚至有人直言沿岸網爐光電垃圾海這些設施是民進黨政府所謂的乾淨能源
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 這一次颱風就潰散成災當塑膠浮板與玻璃色片漂流海岸滯洪池水色易變模組泡水氧化請問這樣子的綠能還能夠稱為環保嗎還配得上永續之名嗎
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 部會的官員急著澄清沒有污染2016年民進黨執政至今有多起大型的土地變更為光電用地卻免於環評政府為了光電業者大開後門直到今年初才因為爭議不斷來修正規定令人擔憂的是水面型光電到現在都還不需要環評不查不管
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 光电政策只剩下标语与补贴没有监管没有任性只剩下灾后的烂摊子政府施能下的绿能政策远比风灾更可怕能源转型不是用来做业绩的数字堆叠也不是执政党的标语贴纸更不能是一场政府与厂商共舞却让人民买单的骗局
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 當我們看到災民無力自救老翁命上屋頂綠電設施遍地斷裂政府官員卻還指盲著說復原得很快沒有污染我們只能說這場災害不只是天災更是政府的照妖鏡真正需要自己爬上去的不是災民而是這個政府自己該爬上政治責任的屋頂看看自己錯的到底有多離譜
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 謝謝林眷琦委員發言接下來請麥玉禎委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 主席各位親愛的家人大家好颱風侵襲重創台南嘉義蘭花損失超過20億上萬戶屋頂掀開百萬戶停電災民因停電點蠟燭失火傷命
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 台電人員搶救出電命危這不是電影而是我們台灣才剛發生的現實可是賴清德總統呢
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 跑到災區不是安慰而是教訓災民不能全靠國軍這是總統該有的態度嗎你是來看災還是來作秀的我們是你的人民是你的家人不是你的敵人
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 一安慰 一個關心 你都捨不得嗎更可恥的是 災民用藍白帆布遮風避雨 怎麼又變成藍白黨了連高中生貼災情照片 求救都被攻擊
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 台灣還是民主自由國家嗎為什麼一場天災變成民進黨打壓人民的藉口拍招也違法求救被抹紅台灣已經戒嚴了嗎賴清德口中的團結台灣就是要人民閉嘴
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 任人宰割嗎?720我們一定要站出來到民進黨中央黨部大聲替台灣人民伸冤我們不是不理性的反對而是看不下去一個人眼裡只有權力心裡沒有人民的總統
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 你還要等什麼呢726搶救台灣是你最後的機會了走出家門投下不同意不同意罷免用你的力量捍衛民主用你的選票守護國家不能讓民進黨
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 踐踏台灣禍害人民了7.26就是缺你手上神聖的那張票出門逃下不同意不同意罷免某同意某同意罷免空攏一空攏一百年7.26反罷免救台灣謝謝大家好謝謝麥玉珍委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 我們現在登記國事論壇發言的委員均已發言完畢現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 好 報院會 我們現在開始開會 請秘書長報告出席人數報告院會出席委員74人 已足法定人數我們現在開會 因為程序委員會本次會議議事日程草案送院會處理 現有黨團依照本院議事成立對本次會議的議事日程草案提出異議現在我們進行處理並截止收案我們先進行報告事項部分 請議事人員宣讀黨團之第一內容
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 本院台湾民众党党团针对第11届第三会期第21次会议议程报告事项及质询事项提议仅限列议权草案所列议案及校表所列学案是否有当进行公决本院民进党党团针对立法院第11届第三会期第21次会议议事日程报告事项质询事项拟请增列报告事项需求案如附表是否有当进行公决
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 本院國民黨黨團針對第十一屆第三會期第二十一次會議議程報告事項及質詢事項提議僅限列議程草案所列議案及效表所列案是否有當進行公決宣言完畢報言會我們一直要先後處理各黨團提議請問院會對台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過有無異議有異議我們要進行表決現在開始分發表決卡按鈴七分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 好 報告委員會安寧七分鐘時間已到我們要開始進行表決每位委員都有拿到表決卡好 謝謝我們現在針對台灣民眾黨黨團提議現有民進黨黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 報告表決結果在場委員107位贊成58位反對49位贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團體照案通過
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 院會剛才表決台灣民眾黨黨團僅限列之提議因此其他黨團的提議我們就不再處理列入公報記錄另外國民黨團之提議與台灣民眾黨黨團提議相同特別向院會說明本次會議事程報告四項質詢四項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 我們現在繼續處理討論事項部分依先後處理各黨團提議我們現在進行處理台灣民眾黨黨團討論事項提議共一案請議事人員宣讀題內容
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 請問會對台灣民眾黨黨團這提議有無意義有意義我們要進行表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團所提議討論事項請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 包圓會報告表決結果出席107位贊成58位反對49位贊成者多數台灣民眾黨黨團體照案通過
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 因為院會方才通過台灣民眾黨黨團僅限列之提議因此其他黨團提議我們就不再進行處理列入公報記錄另外國民黨團之提議與台灣民眾黨黨團提議相同向院會特別說明本次會議議事日程討論事項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過本次會議議事日程確定
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 我們現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第三會期第二十次會議議事錄宣讀立法院第十一屆第三會期第二十四次會議議事錄時間中華民國一百十四年七月十一日上午九十至九十十七分十五至十二十三分下午二十三分至四六十八分
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 7月15日上午9時至9時46分地點扁院議場出席委員王委員 易川等112人請假委員蔡委員齊昌主席院長韓國瑜 副院長江啟臣報告事項第一案宣讀扁院第十一屆第三會期第十九次會議議事錄決定確定
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 第二次131案均決定交互相關委員會審查處理或交互相關委員會第132 133案為財政委員會等所提出報告案諸行事項甲行政院答案部分兩件與本院委員處署部分三件討論事項第一十三十四案均決議通過第二三十二案均決議定定其處理第四五案
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 均決議交互黨團協商第六至十一案均決議協商後再行處理其他事項一本次會議涉得成報告事項質詢事項照台灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團提議通過討論事項照台灣民眾黨黨團提議通過二國民黨黨團提議抽出進化的二案均予以通過宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 報告委員會我們針對第三會期第二十次會議的議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在做以下決定第三會期第二十次會議議事錄確定報告委員會我們現在處理針列部分請宣讀第一案第一案本院委員劉徐庭的十六人鄰居勞動基準法第37條條文修正草案議事處意見將社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查宣讀完畢選舉會有異議沒有異議通過下一案
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 第二案 本院委員羅明財等16人離聚 道路交通管理處罰條例第21條條文修正常案 依實處理件交交通委員會審查 宣言完畢第三案 本院委員徐欣盈等19人離聚 政府裁過法第87條第94條及第98條條文修正常案 依實處理件交交通委員會審查 宣言完畢
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 第四案 本院委員徐欣盈等十九人離去 家庭教育法第七條及第十九條條文修正常案 依次處一件教育及文化園會審查 宣讀完畢第五案 本院委員徐欣盈等十八人離去 國民體育法第十一條第十六條之一及第三十八條條文修正常案 依次處一件教育及文化園會審查 宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 第六案 本院委員李冠神等20人凝聚 將新犯罪危害方式條例第47條條文修正草案 議事處一間交內政委員會審查 宣准完畢第七案 本院委員李冠神等20人凝聚 就業保險法第19條條文修正草案 議事處一間交社會福利及生還金委員會審查 宣准完畢
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 第八案 本院委員張雅玲等18人離聚國民體育法第10條之一第10條之二及第31條條文修正草案依釋出一件交內政委員會審查 宣讀完畢第九案 本院委員台灣民眾黨黨團離聚社會秩序維護法部份條文修正草案依釋出一件交內政委員會審查 宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 第十一案 本院台湾民众脑脑团理局到选法部分条文修正草案 依实书件交证及文化委员会审查 宣传完毕第十一案 本院台湾民众脑脑团理局 教育基本法第二条第四条及第九条条文修正草案 依实书件交证及文化委员会审查 宣传完毕
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 第十二案 本院台湾民众党团联聚 铁路法第五十六条之四 第六十七条之三 及第六十八条之四条维修审查案 依次处于监交交通委员会审查宣读完毕无疑通过报告院会 我们本次会议报告事项记载于议事录顺序 授权议事处调整现在我们继续处理原列报告事项 请宣读第二案
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 全院會有異議 免議通過下言
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 第3案 本院委員中加病的22人離去 中央銀行法第2條條文修正草案 依次處意見交財政委員會審查 訊息完畢第4案 本院委員呂玉玲等16人離去 勞工保險條例第63條條文修正草案 依次處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 訊息完畢
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 第五案,本院委員會翻譯的18案的理據,人工智慧基本法草案,依釋處理監教究及文化交通兩委員會審查,宣布完畢。第六案,本院委員吳宗憲的17案的理據,駐韓民國刑法增定第272條之一條文草案,依釋處理監教司法及法治委員會審查,宣布完畢。
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 報告事項第六案現在有國民黨黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請議員會有異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下一案
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 第七案 北域委員羅美玲等16人離聚 專科以上學校尚未實習教育法草案 一致處一間教教育及文化委員會審查 訊息完畢第八案 北域委員郭國文等16人離聚 原住民身份法修正草案 一致處一間教內政委員會審查 訊息完畢第九案 北域委員鄭天才等26人離聚 地方制度法第33條條文修正草案 一致處一間教內政司法及法治兩委員會審查 訊息完畢
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 第十案 內政委員會本月第十屆第三會期第八次會議通過零一二一嘉義大埔地震災後重建制決議結束該部嚴處期刑依次處一間交內政委員會 宣告完畢報告委員會本案由台灣民眾黨團提議改交審查本案交內政委員會審查 下一案
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 不宜通过下议案
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 第十二案 經濟部海外修正諸書選專業調節辦法部分條文依次處理件交付經濟委員會宣言完畢第十三案 經濟部海外修正再生女人憑證實施辦法依次處理件交付經濟委員會宣言完畢
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 第十五案 农业牧海维修省从事农业工作农民 申请参加农民健康保险任理标准及资格选杀办法第二条及第十二条这一条文 依次处理监教经济委员会 宣布完毕第十六案 农业牧海维修省高高加拿大亚布达省自高病原性加险流行性感冒非区删除 依次处理监教经济委员会 宣布完毕
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 第十七案 農業部海維修正公告 加拿大愛德華王子刀神自高冰原性加強流行性感冒肺疫區刪除 議事處意見交經濟委員會 宣布完畢第十八案 農業部海維修正公告 美國阿肯色州 密西西比州為高冰原性加強流行性感冒肺疫區 議事處意見交經濟委員會 宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 農業部海維修正農業部執行以後強化農業認識及農運民協助措施辦法第六條附表依釋出意見交基金委員會 宣讀完畢第二選案 財政部海維修正優質企業認證及管理辦法部分條文依釋出意見交財政委員會 宣讀完畢第二十三案 財政部海維培植財政部對受嚴重增殊傳染性肺炎影響營運監管之專營菸酒批發及零售業疏困辦法
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 第24案 金融監督管理委員會函宋有關政權交易法第21條規定遵令議事處理監督管理委員會 宣布完畢第25案 金融監督管理委員會函宋修正金融消費專業處理機構設立及管理辦法第24條及第25條條文議事處理監督管理委員會 宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 第26案 中英部海運修正無動力飛行運動及其經營管理辦法第5條及第7條條文 依釋出意見交交與及文化委員會 宣布完畢第27案 中英部海運修正無動力飛行運動專業人員資格檢定辦法第9條及第18條條文 依釋出意見交交與及文化委員會 宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 第28案 教育部喊为北院修正学生合同化部分条文通过附带决议 减充强化学生自我伤害防止工作规划书面报告 一系处一间交通及网化委员会 宣传完毕第29案 交通部喊送金融台北苏澳等亲属国际商港及麦寮和平工业专业港强制营学范围及其单理论区域 一系处一间交通委员会 宣传完毕
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 第三選案 國家運輸安全調查委員會 海外修正 中大鐵道事務調查作業處理規則第二條及第三條條文 依次處理件交交通委員會 宣讀完畢第三選案 衔接員公共護城委員會 海外修正 機關委託專業服務廠商評選及計費辦法第三條 第八條及第九條條文等四項法規 依次處理件交交通委員會 宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 第3選案 司法院行為修正各級法院法官辦理案件年度司法事務分配辦法第2條附表2依次處理件交司法及法治委員會 宣言完畢第33案 司法院行為修正地方法院修正勞動條件委員本法第19條第20條條文及第23條附件5依次處理件交司法及法治委員會 宣言完畢
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 第34案 司法院行為修正 法院特別同意 願併辦法部分條文及第10條附件二 依次處理監教司法及法治委員會 宣讀為必 無異通過 下議案第39案 考試院及政務行為修正 各監委許可 聘僱人員離職及與辦法部分條文 依次處理監教司法及法治委員會 宣讀為必 無異通過 下議案
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 第36案 衛生福利部行為修正衛生福利部社會及家庭署處規審第4條第15條條文及衛生福利部社會及家庭署編制表依次處建交司法及法制稱為福利系衛生環境人員委員會宣言完畢第37案 衛生福利部行為使用油脂及奶油中重技術檢驗方法名稱修正為使用油脂奶油強化力
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 第39案 衛生福利部海外修正食品中動物用養殘留量檢驗方法零子型抗球蟲藥質檢驗 並自115年1月1日生效議事處理監教社會福利及溫暇環境委員會 宣布完畢第39案 衛生福利部韓中醫事法 涉行細則第11條 第12條條文集 副表2等刊物表
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 議事主委建交社會福利及優先環境委員會 宣讀完畢第一次選議案環境部函為 行政院環境保護署所管特定非公務機關資產安全管理作業辦法名稱修正為環境部所管特定非公務機關資產安全管理作業辦法並修正條文議事主委建交社會福利及優先環境委員會 宣讀完畢第二次選議案環境部函從113年修正防治方案執行進行議事主委建交社會福利及優先環境委員會 宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 本案由台灣民眾黨團體改交審查本案交財政委員會審查
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 法院第44案至第151案依序宣讀其中第44、48到52、57、62、63、65、66、68、69、71、75、76、96、97
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 111到113、115台灣民眾黨黨團體改交審查宣讀之後以上提案均改交相關委員會審查其餘議案均照議事處意見通過請問院會有無異議
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 面议我们开始宣读宣读之后通过请宣读第44案 内卷部第48案 大陆委员会第51案 原住民组委员会第52案 客乡委员会第53案 海洋委员会第56案 国防部第57案 外交部第59案 经济部第64案 国家发展委员会第65案 行政院主席总处第67案 文化部第70案 国家科学及技术委员会
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 第七一案行政院公共物成委員會第七二案是第七四案交通部第七五案司法院第七六案防務部第七七案衛生福利部第七八案是第八十案中央學術委員會第八一案是第八六案國區退出官兵輔導委員會第八七案是第九十案公平教育委員會第九一案是第九八案國家發展委員會第九九案是第109案經濟部第110案是第119案財政部第120案國立故宮博物院
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 第121案 集體1222案 國家科學及基礎委員會第223案 密核安全委員會第224案 司法院第125案 集體144案 衛生福利部第145案 集體146案 教育部第147案 集體148案 原住民組委員會第149案 行政院第150案
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 请宣读质询事项质询事项质询事项质询事项质询事项
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 會員會報告事項已處理完畢我們後續討論事項之進行有待於溝通請各黨團幹部10點40分到一場後面主席辦公室進行溝通現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 報議會我們現在繼續開會現有黨團共識之表述於下一
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 本日星期五院會抽出動議之處理各黨團均沒有異議照案通過二本日院會處理討論事項第二案完畢之後我們即休息三討論事項第一案廣泛討論台灣民眾黨黨團推派兩位民進黨黨團推派三位國民黨黨團推派兩位輪流交叉發言每人發言時間為三分鐘發言完畢之後我們進行表決
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 四 讨论事项第二案一 协商结论处理完成立法程序之后我们不进行三读后之发言五 下新节二院会处理讨论事项第三案以下之议案同日院会不处理临时提案讨论事项处理完毕之后进行散会六 讨论事项第三案及第四案大体讨论之后不发言进复二读交付协商
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 討論事項第五案令定期處理第六案至第十三案均待協商協商之後再行處理第十四案
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 另定期處理本次院會後續依黨團共事進行委員會在進行討論事項之前我們先處理自委員會抽出禁覆二讀之提議並截止收案現在處理民進黨黨團提供一案請議事人員宣讀提議內容
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 本案依照黨團共事我們照案
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 通过我们现在进行处理国民党团党团提供议案请议事人员宣读提议内容本院国民党党团建起向本院委员徐玉珍等17人联聚为国专业人层言论及雇佣法第四条及第六条条文书任草案案自经济社会福利及卫生环境教育节文化三委会抽出进复的读与相关提案并按协商是否有当进行公决宣读完毕
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 本案依照党团共事我们照案通过现在进行讨论事项第一案本院台湾民众党党团针对第11届第三会期建请再延长会期至114年8月31日止请公决案本案经第三会期第16次会议决议交付党团协商并由台湾民众党党团负责召集协商
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 報院會本案已予以協商超過一個月無法達成共識依照立法院職權新施法第七十一條之一規定由院會定期處理因此與本次會議提出討論現在進行廣泛討論請各黨團推派代表發言首先請陳玉珍發言劉書斌委員請準備每位委員發言時間三分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 官員會現在在議場二樓旁聽的來自中華民國婦女企業界協會代表我們掌聲歡迎我們現在請劉淑斌委員發言王逸川委請準備
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 院長 各位同仁 大家午安本黨決定要提出研議 研會的重點在於說第一個要因應國際情勢的一個情勢
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 委員會的組織法通通都是民進黨重要的法案這邊目前都已經協商處理了但是還沒有進入到院會來去進行最後的通過在這個部分另外除了法案的協商這一部分還有院會已經通過的是打詐專報我們是越打詐詐騙的問題越嚴重這部分也都請行政院長要來做報告還有在丹尼斯颱風大家想想看
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 將近兩個禮拜前的颱風災情在南部造成的影響這個是
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 民進黨的賴清德總統的本命區這麼重要的事情他要求我們要求的是行政院長要去做來做辦案報告還要再對重塑重寬重檢來處理這些通通都是要去處理的難道賴清德總統民進黨政府不重視南部的你們最重要的選民嗎所以絕對是要處理的另外還要再處理的是包括
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 包括到在相關的部分剛剛上次在政黨協商的時候陳培宇也有講到為什麼過去的幾次會議當中其實都才開水到半個小時最重要是民進黨為了避免成為在少數的政府當中去做這個討論因此他就減少了根本就不排案就排考察這些部分就是因為他們等大罷免大成功但事實上這是錯誤的
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 好 謝謝 劉書斌委員的發言接下來我們請王逸川委員發言謝榮介委員請準備好 謝謝主席這個專攻的人民這民眾黨實在是有什麼盡可能
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 人家國民黨為了他們一些有錢的利益,在撐保護傘,你們做人家的阿弟在逗兒子、給傘,這樣會不會痛?這研會,說研會,各位現在在看這個直播,你們可不可以知道,跟這幾天差不多創了一年就繼續這樣?會不會沒事情呢?後來拜日也沒事情呢?還是在研會長大?
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 在六月七月到現在 整個月都在考察考察都一人去全部都在這裡 人家國民黨是有案的走去給人家撥去 走去給人家撥去民眾黨的帳篷就在這裡排隊 要把國民黨撥出來我們大人要去給人家撥去 後來又跑去撥一個我們大人要去給人家撥去 我們民眾黨這輩子都沒有撥去
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 你實在是有夠可憐的,靠一句院長講的話,叫做可憐啊!可憐啊!就像民眾黨的立委今天說有很多人要信,很多人要信!今天一點過繼續信,都不要走!我們辦理都不要信,都不要走!
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 笑死人 你們知道五二一之會 拜國參加的拜日不用來我們要開會 看你們拜日來開會 開什麼會假鬼假怪 人家國民黨的 李永林 你們這裡炒飯給他炒了 拿下去
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 我告訴你 你們過問題 現在如果在的絕對不會跟你們這樣說的我告訴你 什麼台美 什麼關稅 什麼一大堆的我告訴你啦 如果真的要緊 那就開臨時會開臨時會處理特別的題目 不是創這個研會我看喔 你們如果這樣創下去喔 到今年的十二月底你們可能又會研會喔 研會到明年的十二月底啦
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 你這樣說說要亂衝一通所以衝啊叫衝啊現在趕快讓民眾黨去背立委叫他不要再衝啊不然下個禮拜全部人都要去盯緊民眾黨去背的後禮拜委員會去背的民眾黨去背的都跑去退
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 不然多多規矩規管 火不開火 火不開火人家的國民黨是為了他們自己的生存之戰 怕被罵 沒來民眾黨在對什麼 傻傻分不清楚 可憐啊好 謝謝王一川委員的發言接下來我們請謝榮介委員發言 林國成委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 各位全國的鄉親 大家好就歡迎是非常心中在看待這個美國對全世界關稅的課程所以我們企業跟民進黨的經濟挑戰我們的鄉親因為必須對著美國最好給我們的通緝什麼樣的措施 大家都很緊張
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 當然立法院必須要避嫌尤其我們的老總統讓各位不會過境美國有人說為了關稅那麼我們要想很多要買美金的工資也要去採購石油 投資天然氣最後 要把我們台灣親友的包括
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 甚至採購到福林發展的器材全部都可以說是傾家動山但是我們對企業的幫忙現在只有通過930億萬萬不及企業面臨的挑戰
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 所以這個宴會,我們是米霧中霧,不喝比較好喝,好聽就要這鍋火來牛,這麼嚴峻的挑戰,所以大家在這裡太平,有機!
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 專民通過 要退稅一萬塊給北省這是人民的錢啊但是我們的行政院 按照施政有可能會送你們福利所以要讓人民趕快拿下這一萬塊我們台行政院 不管是福利也好或者是要來協商也好立法院當然有必不反 要在這裡做萬全的準備
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 所以來我講 行政很謙遜全世界都在退水 日本也在退水 韓國也在退水新加坡也在退水 澳門 香港都在退水有人退兩萬 有人退四萬 有人退四千 有人退萬五
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 那麼我們台灣過去四年 銷售一條八千七百億 感覺幾年就銷售五千兩百八十三億這個月底 割剩這個錢就離賣了 不是沒錢錢有 建設我們也要通過 採購武器我們也要通過
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 中央共同合作,所以這個宴會尤其必要性,我們很好,讓總統出國去訪問,但是不可以委託,要提到更好的關稅,傾家動森,這樣我們有得站不上的地方啦謝謝謝榮介委員的發言,接下來我們請林國成委員發言,吳思堯委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 好 各位 我們院長 各位委員 全國的所有的人民 大家午安我想開會啊 是民主國家 尤其是國會殿堂最基本的概念嘛 研會 以否 我也不曉得 民進黨你在反對什麼
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 這不是一個立法委員應有開會的認真的表現嗎那你們在怕什麼你們不是在搞大罷免要把國民黨綁在國會殿堂請問一下 你們在怕什麼就給他綁在這裡每天開會 每天來討論國事這不是很好嗎 你們是在怕什麼啦台灣民眾黨
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 有自己的主張 研會並非為國民黨也不是因為我們台灣民眾黨是因為認為國會在現在的狀況之下說實在的 身為一個立法委員開會沒有什麼好怕 就像很吉利很簡單嘉義 雲林 屏東 台南
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 災情這麼嚴重你們沒有去看看他們受災戶他們的心情你們在救災立法委員來馬上休會就沒有不夠問行政又不做總統又不關心請問一下這救災國會不需要出一點力替台灣人民替受災戶來做一些事嗎
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 所以這些都有必要的另外本會期本人就是在交通委員會當這會期的召集人
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 請問一下我們在執行的時候拜託民進黨趕快NCC現在三個委員趕快補一個上來我們願意審我們願意讓他共同來為這些台灣人民的媒體這些換照的問題趕快來解決請問一下你們為什麼不要提關稅的問題
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 國會不要知道嗎還有會議的問題這麼慘難道你們都無動於衷嗎所以我要奉勸我們執政黨的民進黨真的不要怕開會不要怕我們要勇於在國會大家來談但是我反對
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 民進黨像早上用這種霸道的行為任何事情可以協調可以溝通那用這種東西我從來對民進黨沒有惡言相向的但是我忍無可忍被逼早上我也是花彪但是我希望國會希望未來是和諧台灣人民需要國會所以開會 研會台灣民眾黨沒有受任何人的指使我們認為應該開會謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 主席各位同仁史上最混的國會有什麼資格要史上最長的研會呢不開會幹嘛研會不犯法也不用怕修會
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 研會到七月底不夠看不過癮硬是要讓司法保護傘開好開滿可以銜接到九月會期正式的開始要讓整個會期能夠滴水不漏能夠無縫接軌這不就是公然利用立委的特權在妨礙司法躲避司法的偵辦嗎立法院的會期憲法有明定
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 若有重大的議案可以採行加開臨時會的機制研會當然不是不行但是要有合理正當的理由我們看看民眾黨委員所提的研會的說明資料就在大家的桌上
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 沒有半個文字的說明是空白授權要審什麼案要處理什麼議題完全寫不出來因為不止沒有合理正當的理由是完全沒有理由我們來看一看實際的國會現場第一次的研會到七月底立法院交出什麼樣的成績單呢我向大家報告八個委員會
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 總共考察了65次考察了65次立法院唱空城就拿考察來電檔那我們來看看院會連續4次的院會6月24號9點25分就散會
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 7月1號9點17分散會7月8號的院會9點21分散會7月15號的院會9點47分散會平均我們的大會也就是大家坐在這裡的院會平均開會的時間四次會議27點5分鐘就散會了
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 不开会那干嘛研会呢没有重大的议案要审不用在那边假惺惺假认真立愿唱空城就是一个眼前横在国人面前的事实刚刚华丽莎委员说民众党当国民党的小弟傻乎乎替他们撑国会保护伞不好意思我没同意
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 因為咧 民眾洞現在呢 研會上癮是各取所需 也有他們的目的因為可以利用考察來作為他們作秀的秀場可以利用考察 花公家的錢讓黃國昌去板橋 去繫紙 去為他未來選舉來造勢把官員當作道具 把考察當秀場民進黨反對 無裡頭的研會
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言接下來我們請登記最後一位陳培宇委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 各位立法院的同事午安喔每一次要上台前要跟韓國瑜院長都先鞠躬我鞠到今天已經不知道我為什麼要鞠躬了面對一個意識不中立的院長我們還要在這裡配合演出還要在這裡聽在野黨冷笑圍真的是非常的莫名其妙要開會就來開會我們來看一下從4月1號到6月26號根據立法院的公報所統計每一個委員必須要出席委員會的次數
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 倒數第一名 傅坤祺總召 司法法制委員會只出席兩次 執行率10%倒數第二名 丁學忠 內政委員會4次 22%倒數第三名 林沛翔 6次 43%圖全集8次 衛環委員會44%倒數第五名 黃建斌 內政委員會
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 百分之四十四八次再來廖偉祥未還委員會十次百分之五十五呂玉玲經濟委員會十次百分之六十七油耗交通委員會這個是倒數的國民黨立法委員我想問你們這麼愛開會口口聲聲要推出優質的民生法案請問你們到底做了什麼事情非常的荒謬非常的奇怪
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 今天在現場有非常多的國會保護傘保護傘要保護的是誰我怕國人忘記了我再幫大家一一細數第一個一樣是國民黨的傅坤祺總召之前有花蓮民政局疑似對花蓮選民查水表的案子第二個
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 徐宇珍委員你身為國民黨中央黨部組織發展部主任委員相關抄寫原住民立委吳立華罷免連署案有沒有可能火燒到你身上到現在沒有人知道但保護傘可以好好保護你接下來謝龍介委員身為台南市黨部主委相關罷免龍定宇還有林俊憲的案子目前已經起訴還有羅明才委員服務處的主任還有盧憲一委員王玉明委員
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 阻煩不及備載啊各位保護傘有多好用在保護傘開著的期間如果相關委員必須要被叫去問話必須有相關程序而那個最重要的程序必須要同意的是韓國瑜院長我不知道在過去這一年半當中意識不中立的韓國瑜院長如果真的收到了申請必須邀請立法委員前去問話他會投下同意
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 還是不同意 等一下我們也許可以聽一聽韓院長怎麼回答我要講的是從剛剛阿川委員的發言 司法委員的發言我們知道他們假裝在騙人民開會想要騙所謂的知識藍 經濟藍但我拜託大家睜開你的眼睛這一切荒謬的就只是因為他們怕罷免他們怕受到司法的處置所以他們不斷把傘開好開滿拜託大家看清楚他們的嘴臉 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 好 謝謝陳培宇委員的發言報言會我們現有台灣民眾黨黨團提本案照案通過依照黨團共識我們必須進行表決現在開始按鈴7分鐘並分發表決卡
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 好報告院會我們現在要針對台灣民眾黨黨團提議照案通過要進行表決現在有民進黨台灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 報告表決結果在場委員108位贊成59位反對49位贊成者多數照台灣民眾黨黨團體通過我們現在做以下決議
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 第十一屆第三會期再延長會期至114年8月31日止
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 報告院會現有黃國昌委員等人針對本案之決議提出附議並請院會隨即表決處理報告院會我們現在來進行處理本件附議案現在進行表決
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 針對黃國昌委員等所提復議案現有民進黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 法院會報告表決結果出席108位贊成49位反對59位贊成者少數附議案不通過我們現在進入討論事項第二案中華民國刑法部分條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 本院司法及法制委員會於114年6月4日召開全體委員會議並按審查上開草案由吳兆景委員中現擔任主席除邀請提案黨團及委員說明提案要旨外防務部及相關機關應邀指派代表列席說明及黨務委員詢問
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 為其集思廣益於114年5月22日舉行回憶民意略同刑責法治總檢討公定會如果與原事於6月4日聽取報告並經巡查後審略大體討論進行逐條審查並將全面審查完略由清泉裔審查完略理據審查報告提醒文匯公爵本案須交由黨團審商院會討論時由吳兆謹、任宗憲出席說明宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 好 謝謝 謝謝 謝謝麻煩保持一場肅靜 謝謝我們召集委員吳宗憲委員沒有補充說明吳宗憲委員要補充說明嗎請吳宗憲委員補充說明
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 時間暫停時間暫停時間暫停好 謝謝時間暫停時間暫停我已經說時間暫停了不要急好 謝謝謝謝 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 好各位委員謝謝謝謝齊凱文謝謝請坐我們尊重發言委員的權益好嗎抱怨會來時間暫停抱怨會現在在議場二樓旁聽來自雲林縣西羅鎮中心社區發展協會的所有好朋友我們掌聲歡迎好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 好 謝謝 請保持異常次序我們現在請召集委員吳宗憲委員補充說明請發言謝謝各位委員 謝謝各位委員給我一個安靜的時間然後讓我說明一下我們現在 我手上現在拿到的這個帽子上面的圖案就是凱凱的圖像那我希望今天我們三讀過後能夠順利讓這次的修法通過讓他能夠安心的睡去
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 我想我們很不捨他離開了我們在一歲十個月的時候但是他留給我們的遺產是讓我們這個社會能夠重新重視虐童這個嚴重的問題在這幾年不停的攀升能夠讓未來的小朋友們都能夠在平安快樂的環境下面長大我們謝謝他然後凱凱你可以安心的睡了
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 我想今天刑法的修正是多了一條虐殺因誘惡罪
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 第一個我們針對殺害未滿7歲的嬰幼兒要有他獨立成罪的保護必要因為當嬰兒被施虐者虐待甚至虐殺的時候他完全沒有辦法抵抗他不像成年人他沒有辦法替自己講話所以孩子你放心我們會替你講話我們會為你們爭取這是我們成年人該做到的義務
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 依據現在的數據顯示這幾年台灣嚴重的少子化但是從2019到2023未滿三歲的受虐兒的人數不斷的攀升漲幅將近兩成那這個狀況呢讓一個不知道胖是什麼的小朋友竟然就已經在街被大人虐待著
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 以我自己一線司法實務的經驗其實沒有報案的黑數會更多有更多的小孩子不知道怎麼去表達有更多的父母不知道怎麼去爭取救援那這些黑數我們沒有看到現在已經曝光的這些案件已經讓我們真的不忍心再看下去有這麼這麼多的虐待的案件我想我們身為爸爸媽媽我們都很能夠知道愛護小孩子那種心情那種感覺
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 我們自己的小孩跌倒發燒的時候我們是多麼渴望自己替他分擔那個痛苦這也是我常講的如果我還有99條命的話我願意為我兒子死100次這是一個父母對小孩子每一個人都是這樣想但是呢所有的小孩有一些受虐兒就是要我們出來為他們我們要保護他們
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 所以我們不能忽視其實小孩子是社會的未來國家應該給他更全面的保護保障這個需要修法需要給他更多更強力道的保護對這些施虐者要更強而有力的懲罰這個才是保障他們
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 法務部給我們的統計有超過85%的受虐兒是7歲以下的嬰幼兒所以我們在這邊以身為民意代表的身份要向政府喊話在面對不到7歲的嬰幼兒這麼極端虐待的惡行國家一定要嚴懲給社會一個回應要告訴社會國家會保障這些小朋友
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 那為什麼我們要徵定這個殺嬰幼兒罪第一個虐待行為他根本就侵害了人性尊嚴這比一槍一刀殺害一個人更嚴重他是多次的虐待以凱凱案來說一個一歲半的小孩虐待到不成人性我在這邊跟各位報告他拔掉他十根手指頭的指甲冬天脫光衣服在陽台外面罰站用長滿蟑螂的
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 那個餐具餵他吃 收水 廚餘 用魚線綁著不讓他睡覺 要他站著再把他蒙住雙眼 對著塞到水桶裡面不給他飯吃 毆打他114天這是人幹的事情嗎
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 造成這個小朋友身上新舊傷不斷這個根本就是在剝奪他基本的生存權然後到最後讓小朋友就這樣子痛苦的死亡這對人性尊嚴是何等的侵害第二個 凌虐行為通常有它的累積性因為它不是一次造成它是長期多日的
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 對他凌虐一次一次的累積到最後讓他失去生命死亡但是這個肆虐者就在旁邊冷眼的旁觀這個小孩子一歲十個月的小孩子而已就在他面前死亡這不是殺人而已這虐殺是多麼可惡虐待的行為還有他是一個無目的性因為小孩子跟你不會有任何的恩怨沒有什麼感情糾紛結果你毫無目的就殺他如果我們不怕單純成罪很多時候在現行事務上面
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 會被認為是過失致死而已因為小朋友跟行為人沒有恩怨所以會被認為是行為人不小心把小孩子弄死變過失致死而不是殺人罪所以我們認為有單獨成立一個條文的必要性在這邊我要告訴各位虐殺嬰幼兒罪該萬死請大家一起支持我們今天三讀一定要通過 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 好 謝謝吳宗憲委員的補充說明本案經審查會決議須交由黨團協商另外 郭育晴委員等 吳宗憲委員等分別提案經第三會期第十七次 第二十一次會議決定近乎二讀與相關提案並按協商台灣民眾黨團 洪孟愷委員等 廖偉祥委員等 羅志強委員等分別提案
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 今第三会期第十七次第十八次会议决定自委会抽出进复二读与相关提案并按协商报言会我们本案已经完成协商请宣读协商结论
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 立法院黨團協商結論1時間114年7月16日星期三下午1時30分7月18日星期五上午10時40分2地點紅樓302會議室議長主席辦公室3協商主題並按協商中華民國刑法部門條文修正草案4協商結論1
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 第271條不予修正維持現行條文2 增訂第271條之一第277條之一及第278條之一均不予增訂3 增訂第272條之一照協商內容通過相諾附件4 第286條保留送院會處理5 區均照審查會審查結果通過6
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 本案保留條文 院會進行處理前由各黨團推派代表發言依台灣民眾黨黨團一人民進黨黨團三人國民黨黨團三人順序輪流發言每人發言時間為三分鐘發言完畢後即依提出先後進行各黨團版本之處理協商主持人韓國瑜 協商代表柯建民 傅坤祺黃國昌 張祺凱 陳昭芝 羅志強吳世堯 王宏偉 陳佩瑜宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 請問議員會對以上協商結論有無異議沒有異議本案主條討論時進一協商結論處理現在進行主條討論第77條維持現行條文第271條維持現行條文第271條之一不予徵定請宣讀徵定第272條之一
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 第二百七十二条之一对于未满七岁之人犯第二百七十一条之罪者加重其刑二分之一对于未满七岁之人以凌虐方式犯第二百七十一条定向之罪者处死刑或无期徒刑前向之未罪犯罚之欲被犯第二项之罪者处五年下有期徒刑宣读完毕
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 照協商條文通過第277條之一第278之一均不予增訂報院會我們現在進行處理保留條文依協商結論僅宣讀院會所收各黨團在修正動議版本其餘提案內容均列入公報記錄請宣讀第286條
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 台湾民众党党团、国民党党团共同所提在修正动议第286条对于未满18岁之人施以凌虐或以他法足以妨害其身心之健全或发育者处6月以上5年以下有期徒刑意图盈利而犯前项之罪者处5年以上有期徒刑得兵科300万元以下罚金
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 对于未满7岁之人犯前二项知罪者依一个该项制规定加重起刑二分之一对于7岁以上未满18岁之人犯第一项知罪因而致责于死者处无期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑至重伤者处5年以上12年以下有期徒刑对于7岁以上未满18岁之人犯第二项知罪因而致责于死者处无期徒刑或12年以上有期徒刑
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 宣读完毕
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 法院會依照協商結論保留條文處理之前各黨團推派發言代表依照台灣民眾黨一位
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 民進黨三位國民黨黨團三位順序輪流發言每位委員發言時間三分鐘發言完畢之後我們先後提出進行各黨團版本的處理我們現在請各黨團推派代表發言每位發言三分鐘首先請陳昭之委員發言吳秉瑞委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 院長 各位委員線上關心兒童安全的國人尤其是二樓還想陪你長大聯盟的好朋友謝謝你們幫助我們促進這次的修法提案
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 民眾黨黨團會提出刑法第286的修法不只是一個例行的立法工作而是我們已經到這個關頭我們到底要不要正視我們要不要去面對這樣的惡行要不要去正視人性最黑暗一面的問題凱凱案中兩位自稱 號稱專業的保姆卻用最不人道的方式去對待一個不到兩歲還不能完整說話的孩子
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 捆綁毆打強灌隔夜菜用冷水洗澡命令他裸體罰站身體對折塞進水桶讓他日間消受精神憂鬱痛苦死去身上超過40個傷口這是人做得出來的事嗎這樣的惡行如果你只是用現在的目前的法律所謂的傷害致死來看待那我們就成為沉默的共犯
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 等於任何社會的惡人之道殺一個兩歲的不大的孩子只要手段模糊下證據不太明確頂多是傷害罪而不是殺人罪我們提出修法就是要改變這樣的荒謬對七歲以下的幼童失憶 凌虐
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 致重傷甚至致死這不是單純的過失是泯滅人性的作為我們要用最嚴峻的懲罰包括無期徒刑還有死刑我們要證告潛在的施暴者你敢對孩子動手國家就不侵擾你
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 根據衛福部資料近五年重大的兒少死傷案件九成未滿兩歲七成甚至不到一歲這些孩子是無辜的他們的哭聲沒有人聽得見他們的痛苦誰能發現呢如果我們不做是誰來做呢
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 我們不是要懲罰父母 我也不是要製造寒蟬效應我們要嚇阻那些已經沒有人性甚至用他的情緒用這個手法來發洩他情緒的惡人我要強調修法當然是第一步社會安全網的建構才是下一步如果連這樣的修法都有人阻擋還在考慮加害者的人權請問孩子的命算不算命孩子的痛算不算痛
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 我們把話說清楚對於寧略兒童致死這個國家的態度就是零容忍就是眾行嚇阻你敢下手我就讓你付出最大的代價今天我們布置了這樣子一個溫馨的要訴求而略加重刑罰的這個標語民進黨一大早就把我們撕掉了我們從昨天下午就開始排隊
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 你們號稱要保護兒童為了兒童我需要保護每個孩子我也希望未來不再有任何兒童因為兒孽而來不及長大謝謝陳昭志委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 謝謝 接下來我們請吳秉瑞委員發言 馬文俊委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 主席 各位同仁 凌虐兒童非常不可取大家都非常支持要加重處罰所以我們這個草案才會有272條的鎮定對於這個凌虐兒童來故意來殺害這個小孩的話加重他的罪已經有在很清楚的加重的狀況那今天對於這個凌虐兒童每一個黨團我相信都深入痛決
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 不過法律有它的體系我在這個地方要跟大家解釋刑法這個法律它必須在總則有三個概念第一個概念叫做構成要件該不該當是不是跟刑法法定的構成要件一樣第二個是這個行為有沒有違法性第三個叫做罪責
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 什麼叫罪責呢就是他犯了什麼樣的錯得到怎麼樣子的處罰這中間必須是有整體的平良一致的關係
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 殺害 故意殺害小孩這事已經定在272條現在286條在討論的是 泯滅 致小孩子有重傷或是死亡的結果那為什麼跟272條不一樣呢就是因為他這個犯罪的太陽不一樣272條就是直接目的是要殺小孩子
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 這個286條是他的目的是泯滅但是導致小孩致重傷致死亡的這個結果不是這個犯罪人本來他要的那至於說你這個認定怎麼這樣亂認定認定的權利那個是在法院不是我們立法院法院的審判是各個案件進入實體的時候根據證據根據佐證來去採認的結果
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 那現在就是造成一個問題你虐小孩但是後面加了一個你不要的結果是自重傷自死這樣的結果你刑法要放這麼重的時候你跟故意殺害掉那個小孩子之間的那個罪責的分別就會變得很小
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 那這個跟刑法原來的制度是不一樣的我覺得民眾黨的委員不要在這個地方用很民粹的話講啦我舉個例子 法務部並不同意這條86條你們的修正案難道你認為法務部這些人全部都是沒回沒發財都是要害這個孩子嗎 絕對不是這樣嘛而是我們討論事情要根據問題的原理來
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 寧願都有犯罪傷害小孩子罪很重寧願致死罪也很重但是有沒有必要要把他拉到死刑這個結果這個是可以討論的那如果是這個樣子的話就是基本上要回頭問問看你刑法罪責的概念你在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 謝謝吳秉瑞委員會謝謝吳秉瑞委員會
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 好我們尊重發言委員的權益再一次拜託各位委員
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 各位偉大的政治家我們保持一場秩序好不好 謝謝接下來我們請馬文君委員 發言人莊銳雄委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 每個孩子都應該要受到大人的關心跟守護我想這是我們所有人應該要負的責任尤其現在面臨嚴重的少子化孩子更是非常珍貴的寶貝現在社會越來越複雜多元許多人在面臨壓力跟不滿的時候往往會把氣出在自己身邊最親近而且最弱勢的對象而這個對象經常就是兒童
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 他們既沒有反抗的能力也沒有逃生的機會現在凌虐的手段也越來越殘暴而且幾乎每天都不斷不斷的在發生很多都是非人的對待比如說小孩子連大人都沒有辦法忍受這些身體的凌虐跟心理的恐懼跟傷害光是想像這些畫面其實都令人毛骨悚然
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 每天有這麼多的兒童受虐不管是身心虐待或者是性暴力等等尤其對於人尤其是小孩會做出這種非人的手段我想這種除了人神共憤在這樣子的情況底下急行是必要的剛才說的
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 不管前幾個委員他起來我們最近感受最深的就是凱凱案他受到的任何一種其中一種我們大人都沒有辦法忍受指甲的拔除用魚線去綁住讓他沒有辦法去睡覺而且把身體折起來放到水桶裡面這所有的任何一種大人都沒有辦法承受
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 所以如果像這樣子要在這條法律要修訂的情況底下虐殺因誘而罪尤其是像這種非人的這個作為凱凱是在他還可以活蹦亂跳的情況之下在痛苦跟恐懼還有極度的
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 這種凌虐當中慢慢的死去這樣的一個傷害其實是讓所有的人都有很大的陰影所以我們在這裡認為在急醒在必要的時候它通常也是一種公義的展現
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 守護孩子健康平安長大才是真正的保障人權尤其法律更應該要站在保障幼童他有任何活下去的機會這就是今天我們要守這條法令我們所有站出來
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 我們所提供的這種心態我們也希望我們所有因為每一個孩子在他沒有能力去對抗的時候我們只有用法律保護而這個法律它就必須要能夠懲治而且讓大家會有這樣子的一個警覺我想這樣才不會用冷眼在旁邊去看這些孩子慢慢的受到這樣的傷害直到他們死去
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 好 謝謝馬文堅委員的發言會議會洪孟凱委員發表聲明剛才表決與國民黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄接下來請莊瑞雄委員發言 圖全集委員請準備謝謝主席 各位在場的媒體朋友
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 各位實在很不入流的政治家今天是很可悲的一天我必須要在這邊講中國國民黨還有台灣民眾黨你們全部都錯了錯了 真的錯了現在已經進入到286條了你們上來講的還在講272條之一啊虐殺兒童 處以極刑沒有一個政黨反對
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 沒有半個立法委員反對這個案子在我們司法法治委員會在一路修法的時候我一路告訴各位你們不能亂修這個條文要就放在殺人罪章在刑法第22章裡面你們偏偏把它放到23章傷害罪章你們的講法是說管他不管什麼罪章啊反正只要有死刑就好了現在進入到
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 加重結果犯了你們還在討論沒有已經大家各個黨派有共識的一個條文我必須要在這個地方警告各位啊我們去年在討論的時候我同樣在這個地方來跟大家講
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 你們說我本來講說兒少法本來就加重刑刑二分之一你們就一定要講說七歲以下我當初就跟你們講說如果發生八歲了你怎麼辦重新啟動修法嗎發生九歲了你怎麼辦我去年就跟大家講了不要以為定了一個重刑七歲以下就可以杜絕好了你們剛才也都承認了越來越嚴重了所以很明顯的只有刑法的一個重刑
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 不足以來保障我們的幼童啊否則整部刑法全部把他揚起掉啦現在你們講說保護兒童 玲瓏人玲瓏人有很多欸玲瓏人不是死刑欸酒駕我們也講玲瓏人欸性騷擾我們也講玲瓏人欸經濟犯罪制裁我們也講玲瓏人欸那國民黨有多少人要兩次死刑啊你們自己講
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 這樣好嗎這樣好嗎兩公約馬英九時代你把它入國內法我們入法了條文又打架了你怎麼辦你怎麼辦我跟各位報告啊不要這樣倉促立法啦虐殺兒童本來就要判重刑凱凱案這個案子給我來審那麼慘絕人寰我照樣可以判到死刑沒有問題啊
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 沒有問題啊那你現在問題來了你現在全部都用動用死刑我很擔心啊你把這麼大的一個權力啊這麼大的一個武器你交給國家嚇死人了我告訴你每一個法官判出來都不一樣A法官跟B法官都判得不一樣我看你怎麼辦不是有人死掉一定死刑欸
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 不一定欸看行為人是誰欸如果你未滿14歲的人你去做他完全沒有刑罰欸你超過80歲的人你又必須要去減重其刑欸林士林你以為不知道嗎吳宗憲你以為不知道嗎你們進到立法院以後你們那個法
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 好 謝謝莊惠雄委員的發言報告委員會容我提醒一下所有的委員要準備進入議場我們在九分鐘之後就要進行表決接下來我們請圖權及委員發言吳思瑤委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 各位立院同仁各位所有關心兒童權益的國人刑法第286條的修正是為了保護我們國家最無辜最脆弱的孩子是要向所有潛在的加害者傳遞最清楚的訊息
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 一一對幼兒的對我們寶貴的下一代行使暴力者國家絕不寬戴這是我們對弱勢最無辜孩童的莊嚴承諾
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 我們都知道未滿7歲的幼兒法律上沒有行為能力身心都非常脆弱他們沒有能力自保沒有能力呼救甚至無法用完整的語言訴說自己的痛苦與恐懼他們的生命與健康都仰賴家庭社會與國家去守護
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 然而今年卻一再發生舉國憤怒的訛虐事件一再傳出不忍睹睹的痛心畫面那些泯滅人性的加害者明知受害者不可能反抗證詞證據都不易收集於是就有恃無恐一次次對幼小的生命痛下毒手
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 因此本次我們的修法要特別針對未滿7歲的幼童明定若以凌虐方式致死致重傷者除了加重刑期之外最重還可處死刑或無期徒刑就是要傳達一個最明確的訊息
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 國家不容許任何人對手無寸鐵的孩子施暴逃避應有的嚴懲各位同仁保護孩子就是守護我們國家最根本的未來讓孩子平安健康長大不該只是口號更要靠我們今天在這裡的每一票去落實
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 我懇請大家一起支持這項修正案讓法律真正成為孩子的防護網讓我們對社會有個負責任的交代對下一代有一個更安全的承諾謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 主席各位同仁為什麼國民黨的委員們今天在議場
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 表演的這麼的激情但是在凱凱案發生之後卻是一路的冷血無情凱凱案傷了無數社會人的心當社會關心的是生命在野黨的委員關心的是政治
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 虐殺嬰幼兒當然是人神共憤但是保護兒少除了修法重罰負責任的從政者應當要從制度下手讓加害者不能逍遙法外非常重要但是讓制度不再失靈才是真的能夠從根本再去遏止任何一個鎧開
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 案的發生從國民黨委員的發言在這裡大聲疾呼我真的覺得無比的痛心無比的諷刺我們來複習一下案發之後是誰在互踢皮球是台北市蔣萬安跟新北市的侯友宜互踢皮球
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 案發之後是誰在立法院護航而服聯盟的王玉敏是國民黨的立委甚至發生了這屆立法院第一次的暴力事件陳玉珍把吳思瑤熊抱摔在牆上而許曉欣比出一個阿達阿達的手勢請問許曉欣是認為替凱開案伸張正義的民進黨立委是阿達還是國民黨認為社會上關心兒少的人是阿達
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 我們更不要忘了在去年的3月22號台北市議會排定要蔣萬安進行專案報告檢討政策的時候國民黨台北市黨部的黃呂錦如帶著國民黨的議員不得入場來包庇護航蔣萬安所以先包庇一路消費再明罪修法
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 就是藍白假關心兒少而真正在關心兒少的惡劣作為
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 虐殺兒童加重刑責今天的刑法272之一我們已經修法入法至於更民粹的修法有專業的剛剛法律出身的立委已經向大家多次的說明我在這裡就制度面民進黨提出了五大政策面向十一項作為甚至除了修刑法我們更提出六個法律法規的修正包括
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 兒少的托育服務專法是誰在出庭的時候默默的關心是民進黨的郭鈺晴委員民進黨的林月晴委員是誰在制度面不斷的精進是民進黨負責任的中央政府請國人不要被亂帶風向
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 好 謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言報怨會我們三分鐘之後即將進行表決現在我們請登記最後一位發言委員羅廷偉委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 我們剛剛看到有委員提出從制度面的改革來防範而虐我想沒有人會否認但是我們可以看到許多的案例從凱凱案有這麼多的委員所提出凱凱案案發的過程營養不良
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 餵食廚餘脫衣罰站生殖器還被燒灼多處淤傷跟骨折無處冰冷殘酷的畫面你我無法想像但是但是但是只有凱凱案嗎從制度的改革講了多久2005年桃園六歲的蔡小弟
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 被延長線抽打致死楊梅的三歲一個男童被當作練習的刺青畫布幼小的身軀他的刺青圖案龍大象光環最後一腦膜下出血急救宣告腦死
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 2011年新店的11歲一個男童被強灌毒品昏迷致死1歲大的凱凱2歲的浩浩3歲的父親男童6歲的蔡小弟
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 還不懂得如何保護自己的年紀卻被施以一連串難以想像的酷刑折磨身為大人的我們在座許多的為人父為人母我們能夠想像嗎那一刻孩子的無助以及恐懼所以今天我們當然看到了這些社會案件我們不能容忍
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 我們不能夠去想像到他們在案發的過程有多麼的困苦所以今天我們當然要施以最嚴厲的法律手段來遏止這樣的惡行我們才能夠保障每一個孩子誰能夠保障不會有下一個受害者誰還能夠讓孩子的生命免於恐懼我們要告訴潛在的這些加害者
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 這些施暴者 一個清晰而堅定的訊息今天 刑法
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 好 謝謝羅廷維委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 我們現在進行表決以先後進行表決如有一案通過我們就不再處理其他案現在開始表決台灣民眾黨團國民黨團共同所提在修正動議條文現有民進黨台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 時間一分鐘贊成台灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團所提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 謝謝 謝謝大家 謝謝報告表決結果出席105位贊成60位反對45位贊成者多數第286條照台灣民眾黨團國民黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 各位議員會全案經過二讀現有台灣民眾黨團及國民黨團體繼續進行三讀請問議員會有異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀這條文
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 第二百七十二条之一对于未满七岁之人犯第二百七十一条之罪者加重其刑二分之一对于未满七岁之人以凌虐方式犯第二百七十一条第一项之罪者处死刑后无协度性前项之未罪犯罚之欲被犯第二项之罪者处五年下有协度性第二百八十六条对于未满十八岁之人
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 使以凌虐或以他罚足以妨害其身心之见绝或发育者处六月以上五年相有期徒刑地图盈利而犯前项之罪者处五年以上有期徒刑得并更三百万元相罚金对于未满七岁之人犯前项之罪者
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 依各該項是規定加重起刑二分之一對於七歲以上未滿十八歲之人犯第一項之罪因而致人於死者處無期徒刑或十年以上有期徒刑至重傷者處五年以上十二年以上有期徒刑對於七歲以上未滿十八歲之人犯第二項之罪因而致人於死者處無期徒刑或十二年以上有期徒刑至重傷者處十年以上有期徒刑
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 对于未满7岁之人犯第1上之罪应有制人于死者处死刑无期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑至重伤者处10年以上有期徒刑对于未满7岁之人犯第2上之罪应有制人于死者处死刑无期徒刑或12年以上有期徒刑至重伤者处无期徒刑或12年以上有期徒刑宣布完毕
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 好 謝謝報告委員會黃秀芳委員 王振旭委員發表聲明剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄三讀條文已經宣讀完畢請問會有文字修正
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 沒有文字修正保安會我們現在有台灣民眾黨團國民黨團依據立法院職權行使法第11條規定提請將全案負表決我們現在進行全案表決贊成全案通過者請按贊成反對請按反對棄權請按棄權民進黨團台灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決時間一分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 包園會報告表決結果出席59位贊成59位反對0位棄權0位
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 贊成者多數 全案表決通過報言會我們做以下決議中華民國刑法增訂第272條之一條文並將第286條條文修正通過
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 本院黃國昌委員、傅坤祺委員等針對本案三讀之決議分別提出附議並請院會隨即表決處理我們現在進行處理本件附議案現在進行表決針對黃國昌委員、傅坤祺委員等分別所提附議案現有民進黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 和平平和平 守護立法
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 好 謝謝報告表決結果出席57位贊成0位反對57位棄權0位贊成則少數 附議案不通過報告會議依照黨團共識本案不進行三讀後者發言以登記發言之為如有書面意見我們列入公報記錄報告會議依照黨團共識本日會議進行到此為止7月22號星期二上午9點
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 我們繼續開會進行後續討論思想現在休息