| IVOD_ID |
168161 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168161 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T12:15:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T12:20:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:15:00 - 12:20:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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主席有請部長台鐵部長好所有的官員好這個台鐵大霧點在3月27號這張照片是我在台鐵 |
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等候的火車的時候照的照片所以你看如果我們從這張照片這個最晚要延遲到240分鐘延遲就從這張照片240分鐘有195分鐘130分鐘然後這張也是我在現場拍的 |
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這個PUMA延遲130分鐘,然後滯響號160分鐘,這個真的是非常非常的久然後你們的網路上其實沒有看到說會延誤,可以不用那麼早去 |
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所以這個都是要去檢討的所以委員說的如果說網路上沒有的話這個我們確實應該檢討第一時間所有的訊息應該讓所有的旅客能夠通透透過各種管道都必須通透這個當然你們也提到了這個道歉整個因為電力線的故障霧點總共加起來你們是寫超過兩萬分鐘這個部分所以一定要去 |
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檢討然後你們提了相關的改善措施因為時間的關係 |
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這個部分再請台鐵這邊能夠提供素面的是 我很簡單的跟委員報告準備了避免這個大霧點我們就是在行控中心這個硬幣中心我們會成立一個專責的單位然後把我們所謂的班次整個重新的編排因為我們在單線雙向的時候我們的容量是受限制所以我們可能會在某一個時間點裡面 |
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就是把他這個以前的單次取消然後看客人能夠搭這個我們譬如說多號座我們的車廂的話我們就讓他可以自由坐上去但是往後的部分的話就會縮短他的時間所以我們這樣的一個方向 |
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以後我們會來錄音另外就是說在這個時間點裡面我們有一組人專門來說會預估延後多少時間我們會把這時間送到各個車站送到各個列車長有列車長來告訴我們的旅客 |
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有車站動作告示來讓旅客知道同時我們在內部的網站裡面也應該要推播這樣的一個資訊讓所有搭乘台鐵的旅客他有知道這樣的delay的情況好 這個最主要早上就發生了嘛 對不對早上上班族就影響了結果我是 |
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晚上我是六點左右到了台北車站才知道原來是我知道早上就有誤我沒有想到會那麼久啦我沒想到會那麼久去修這些那些這個都是要去加強檢討改進的部分好這個接下來就 |
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台鐵漁花東這個也就是零三零四零三一百一十三年零四零三大地震造成的這個部分行政院在今年的三月十六號合定終於合定了七十七點九九億元接下來就是要請這個交通部鐵道局台鐵這個部分要優先針對這個河仁道 |
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從德這一段因為這階段會涉及到不只是鐵路也會涉及到這個公路台九這個蘇花公路的那個部分所以這個部分優先去處理可以嗎報告委員這個部分我會優先處理不過現在最大的問題會是在立法院的總預算還沒審議通過所以我們沒有錢可以做 |
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這個新新計畫 這個算新增新新計畫你們只要提送過來部長不要用這樣的用詞啦按照預算法54條新新計畫或者是新增 何況這是新新計畫嘛 |
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第一個你們只要報來立法院絕對會同意,何況立法院已經主動718億718億的主動裡面沒有包含這一項對你們還要送來啊為什麼主動沒有包含這一項 |
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因為這個3月16號今年3月16號才核定當然沒有嘛你當然沒有列入115年度的預算嘛部長我這個30年的公務員我們不要用這個樣的那個我們去解決問題解決問題趕快送來啊好不好好 |
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主席，有請部長還有臺鐵董事長。 |
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請陳部長和臺鐵董事長。 |
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委員好。 |
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部長好、各位官員好。 |
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3月27日臺鐵大誤點，螢幕上這張照片是我在臺鐵等候火車的時候照的，從這張照片可看到最晚的可以延遲到240分鐘，還有延遲195分鐘、130分鐘的；另一張也是我在現場拍的，普悠瑪延遲130分鐘，自強號延遲160分鐘，真的延遲得非常、非常、非常的久，可是在你們的網路上其實沒有看到會延誤的訊息，要不然就可以不用那麼早去，所以這個都是要去檢討的。 |
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委員如果是說網路上沒有相關訊息的話，這個我們確實應該檢討，應該在第一時間，讓所有的旅客能夠透過各種管道對所有的訊息都必須通透。 |
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當然你們也對因電車線故障導致誤點總共加起來達2萬分鐘表示道歉，並說一定要去檢討且提了相關的改善措施，因為時間的關係，這個部分請臺鐵這邊提供書面的資料。 |
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我簡單的跟委員報告，為避免大誤點，我們會在行控中心成立一個專責的單位，然後把我們所有的班次重新編排，畢竟在單線雙向的時候，我們的容量是受限制的，所以我們可能會在某一個時間點裡把之前的班次取消，然後看客人能夠搭哪班車，譬如說是對號座車廂的話，我們就讓他可以上去搭自由座，這樣往後就會縮短他的時間，所以我們是採用這樣的一個方向，以後我們會來努力。 |
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另外就是說在這個時間點裡面，我們有一組人專門來預估會延誤多少時間，並把這個訊息送到各個車站和各個列車長，由列車長來告知我們的旅客、由車站公開告示讓旅客知道，同時我們內部的網站也應該播報這樣的資訊，讓所有搭乘臺鐵的旅客知道有delay的情況。 |
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主要是這事早上就發生了，早上的上班族就受到影響了，結果我是晚上6點左右到了臺鐵臺北車站才知道，我知道早上有誤點，但沒有想到會花那麼久的時間去修，這些都是要去加強檢討改進的部分。 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-01T12:18:48.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-01T12:19:35.797000+08:00 |
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接下來是臺鐵宜花東在113年4月3日大地震造成損壞的部分，行政院終於在今年3月16號核定了改善計畫，總經費77.99億元，接下來就是要請交通部鐵道局、臺鐵，在這個部分要優先針對和仁到崇德這一段，因為這一段不止會涉及到鐵路，也會涉及到蘇花公路台9線的部分，所以這個部分要優先處理。 |
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0.761 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-01T12:19:36.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-01T12:19:37.459000+08:00 |
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可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-01T12:19:37.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-01T12:19:43.804000+08:00 |
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報告委員，這個部分我們會優先處理，不過現在最大的問題會是立法院的總預算還沒審議通過，所以我們沒有錢可以做。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-01T12:19:46.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-01T12:19:55.587000+08:00 |
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這個算是新增新興計畫，你們只要提送過來，部長，不要用這樣的用詞啦！ |
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0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-01T12:19:55.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-01T12:19:57.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
確實是總預算還沒通過的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-01T12:19:57.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:00.268000+08:00 |
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按照預算法第五十四條，新興計畫或者是新增，何況這是新興計畫嘛！ |
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0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:11.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:13.445000+08:00 |
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你們只要報來立法院，我們絕對會同意，行政院沒有送來啊！ |
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0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:13.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:17.909000+08:00 |
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何況立法院已經主動─是主動喔！ |
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0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:17.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:18.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
我們立法院已經主動通過718億元新興計畫預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:20:17.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:19.431000+08:00 |
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這718億元主動通過預算裡沒有包含這一項。 |
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0.471 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:19.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:19.771000+08:00 |
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對，你們要把計畫送來啊！ |
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0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:19.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:21.453000+08:00 |
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為什麼主動通過的部分沒有包含這一項。 |
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0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:32.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:40.545000+08:00 |
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那是因為這個計畫在今年3月16號才核定，當然沒有列入115年度預算嘛！ |
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0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:41.205000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:20:47.770000+08:00 |
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部長，我當了30年的公務員，不要用這樣的態度，我們要去解決問題。 |
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0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:47.770000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-01T12:20:49.031000+08:00 |
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趕快送來，好不好？好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:49.531000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T12:20:52.673857+08:00 |
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謝謝鄭天財委員，謝謝部長。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-01T12:20:52.973857+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T12:20:57.259571+08:00 |
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待林月琴委員發言後，我們休息10分鐘。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-04-01T12:20:57.559571+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T12:21:01.559571+08:00 |
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接下來我們邀請王安祥委員發言。 |
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0 |