| IVOD_ID |
168138 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168138 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T11:27:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T11:35:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106ce21f3343e0105dd4bd67b93b5004dc02afe627a357cd2d7fdcf26fffb41f74a55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:27:28 - 11:35:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、審查
(一) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員郭昱晴等17人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員林宜瑾等18人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員張雅琳等17人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員馬文君等16人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 委員林倩綺等22人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 委員柯志恩等18人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 委員萬美玲等19人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 委員葛如鈞等18人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十一)委員葉元之等18人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十二)委員羅智強等19人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十三)委員徐巧芯等21人擬具「教師法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
(十四) 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「教師法第二十五條及第五十三條條文修正草案」案。
【第二(十一)案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第二(十二)至(十四)案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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有請謝龍介委員質詢主席我請保證有請部長上備訊台保證一二 |
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請教,這個老師越來越會,你跟這個侃公教退休金有關嗎?陳佩儀說沒有啦,我相信你教書出身的,你有很多東北 |
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你的同僚都有這個感受這是一個事實但是這已經過去的事情就是說以前我們總有一條七千多億到一條九千億說未來災情會很困難所以請大家共體時間來檢驗一些體育金運動機器也同意 |
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結果不知道現在變三成了,民進黨說他接種了不錯,災情越來越好,一檔比一檔好結果同期時間,台北郵件的角度都不一樣所以這點是很重要的原因所以今天修法,你如果拿不出對策,他們會說種的不白,聽到的料到流培,那是不好的,要對症下藥 |
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當受治療比喻擁護老師基本上對不上溫暖又不能退休又沒辦法有保障什麼都要做老師回到同期時的你現在的你跟同期時的你現在的你不可能再做老師了 |
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跟委員報告,我真的客人比較浪漫,比較熱情,我對高雄一直都有興趣不好意思,不好意思,不好意思,沒有我今天不站在這裡啦,說實在,沒有關係,這個老師吃不飽沒關係就對了,沒有關係 |
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因為我不是吃不飽,因為我們現在就是說,我們對老師當然要如何提升他的一些服務代表我看你剛才的報告,靠靠什麼什麼都AI,難怪AI的立委一直問你,我如果是潘石居跟董,對不對越說越久,你這個AI如果沒電就會害了 |
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台灣的電力 河河山重啟這是正確的你的AI講那些 我來問問看我企劃來請問你對於中華民國教育部對學生所規劃的AI學習課程有什麼看法來 |
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他說我先用實際這個政策實際在教什麼 我的評價是優點跟問題我幫你評價優點 跟總結來回答第一 教育部目前AI課程在教什麼 我來重點拆解不錯耶 他說大致可以分三層 看你們會不會對 |
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基礎成AI素養 從小學為主認識AI是什麼 怎麼運作理解AI在生活中的應用 學習判斷譬如用AI做語言學習 寫作輔助練習辨識AI產生的 |
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不是工程師也要懂AI啦這是你的核心目標第二個 應用層就是跨域加上問題解決的課程核心這是你們的規則裡面教育部強調學生要用AI處理真實問題培養解決問題跟跨域能力第三 就是進階層專業的AI課程大概就是高中大學 |
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課程 程式設計 機器學習 自然語言處理 跨校AI課程 甚至可以拿證書第四 教學上的一個關鍵改變好 第二 現在Chart DVD說了 我對這套AI課程的看法 |
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優點我認為做得不錯是課程設計是未來導向而不是工具導向所以給你額外的啦但是台灣課程在做的是理解AI 應用AI批判AI啦這對你來講是比較成熟跨域跨域的部分設計是正確方向再來現在他說你的問題在哪裡 |
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第一 課程理念很好 但是很難教要會AI 要會設計問題要會引導討論 現實不是每個老師都準備好了我現在要大家問的呢第二 學生容易學到表面使用 不是深度理解 |
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譬如會用AI寫報告 但不知道AI怎麼錯了這是你現在面臨的問題如果沒有設計好 學生會變成AI操作員 而不是思考者我感覺不中 他把你寫得這麼有道理第三 評量方式跟不上你的課程 |
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現在的課程在教創造力問題解決但是考試還是標準答案跟背誦這會導致一個矛盾課堂一套 考試又是另外一套 |
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哇 差這麼多 第四 課程可能會過度樂觀AI目前很多課程AI很好用 AI幫助學習但比較少強調它的偏誤跟幻覺以及過度依賴 會讓學生低估了風險他給你一個比較直接的結論 |
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這套AI課程在理念上是先進的但在學習深度上有相當的風險講白一點教學方向教對方向就是跨域加素養加應用但不一定學得深容易流於工具使用阿伯阿姨有說如果你叫他幫你升級他會有三件事你自己去問AI |
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你覺得他在台北,我剛才跟你說,你覺得現在的情況有接近嗎? |
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謝謝委員,真的這個GPT真的很厲害因為我們現在面臨的挑戰,老師我們目前有參加過AI的研習,中間5萬人但是我們所有的老師20萬人我再給你一個建議,因為我們現在的問題大家都會去問AI |
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你現在課程怎麼樣啊 那我建議你再多問幾個啦多問幾個平台 綜合這些答案然後針對你現在對AI所提出來的課程給各級學校 大家共同 我覺得他講得很客觀你的問題跟你的優點都有了 然後改進方向也有了 |
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這就是你剛才說他厲害嘛但是你必須要接納他嘛如果你不接納他你只想當一個操作者最後你就會像他剛剛講的一樣嘛不管部長也好委員也好學生也好我們都要自己去思考我們要運用AI不是只把他當成工具這樣好不好是好 謝謝我看他們委員都完全一定的感謝委員提起好 |
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我们也特别谢谢台南点子网谢龙介委员的AI质询请部长回座 |