| IVOD_ID |
168131 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168131 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T11:13:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T11:18:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c44aa65d07e815d54331a35e1dda586aeafe627a357cd2d7fb066f83588e7a26e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:00 - 11:18:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「能源轉型政策下我國產業發展布局，及中東衝突與全球能源供應鏈重組對能源安全之影響與因應策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家發展委員會主任委員及經濟部部長就「AI浪潮下台灣傳統製造產業競爭力強化及扶助政策規劃與執行情形」進行報告，並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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業務人好我上次有問部長就是說因為我們現在是天然氣在現貨市場去搶大概比原來貴多少他說大概一船是貴11億如果20幾艘的話大概就已經中右大概多虧了200多億都多付出200多億那現在有最新的數據嗎可能有沒有這個張總就是不斷在搶嘛那預計大概要搶幾艘 |
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呃就每個月的船期都排好的嗎?對那因應這個要經過荷姆斯海峽的船的話呢我們目前就去找替代了所以那個數量都是一定的多少嗎?因為我們那個主席控制我們時間控制很緊你可不可以針對問題回答好對事件是說二十幾艘啦那那還要再增加嗎? |
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差不多到6月底就是這個數字但是如果說暫時拖長的話比如說7月8月的話很可能就繼續延續下去就不只多增加200多億可能300多億400多億都可能嘛那上次我問那個部長說那怎麼辦中油怎麼辦那現在他的解決方案是說中油要提出增資計畫那我退回去看一下中油的增資計畫有一個背景是因為中油的負債比很高啦大概92%然後累虧大概800多億 |
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然後每一年的利息就孵了非常多但很奇怪的是因為之前中油類似的狀況也有跟經濟部提出政治計畫但是都被打回票打回票的理由是說中油都還有盈餘849億 |
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那我就不懂啦為什麼之前增資被打回票理由有盈餘現在又忽然間說增資很重要原因是什麼跟委員報告那個是淨值不是盈餘啦是淨值因為畢竟就是說他的這個就是負債比拉高因為經濟部最近才打回票現在忽然間又要大家去支持他增資計畫中間的轉折是什麼 |
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因為最主要是這一次的這個中東的戰事是因為中東的戰事喔中東的戰事讓他的這個就是美軍吸收的成本會增加所以主要是中東戰事所以才忽然間進一步改變立場要去支持他的政治計畫那剛剛講到就是因為中東戰事的關係所以多付出的成本是大概兩百多億嘛兩百多億那我想問那為什麼他政治計畫是三千五百億 |
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為什麼 你如果說是要打消它的累虧800多億再加上現在可能增加了兩三百億 那就1000億啊那為什麼中油要增資3500億 理由是什麼跟委員報告齁 其實剛委員估算的只是氣的部分其實油的部分還沒有加進來所以油是多少 油大概預計會多付出多少成本 |
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預計大概65億美金65億美金是因為中東戰事的關係所以加起來你覺得是3500億所以3500億就不含別的就純粹是因為中東戰事所衍生出來的成本增加就3500億 |
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這麼多?三千五百億是中友提出的是四年三千五百億那我們會評估到底這三千五百億有沒有需要所以我們現在目前報到行政人員沒有這麼多因為你們現在那時候部長就講說已經提了三千五百億報到行政人員是一千多億 一千七百億一千七百億而已是不是再我問一下再一分鐘就好 |
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沒有沒有 剛剛大家都可以喔 因為我一個小問題就好一個小問題就是因為大家現在在質疑說中油他油價公式啊以前是七成杜拜三成布蘭特油嘛但是現在其實我們購買的比例美國油是比較多大概六成中東降到四成以下那之前大家在問啊中油是說這公司有沒有訂的 去問經濟部啊經濟部現在立場怎麼樣 |
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中友目前也委託一些經濟部的立場給他回答一下經濟部的立場你們希望他能夠調整嗎我們會來做一個檢討什麼時候檢討因為隨時每一週都在動你不能夠拖到流年馬月去什麼時候會有一個公式公式的調整方案什麼時候 |
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可能至少半年啦 半年左右要半年 那這半年這半年呢 大家中油多調的部分咧為什麼要半年呢 因為你每週都在調油價嘛那公司竟然發現有問題 為什麼不立刻調油因為這個可能要做一個更深入的一些沒有 我覺得這樣可能大家不太能夠接受啦大家可能不太能接受中油有很多的一些成本沒有加進來那這可能兩回事嘛 你現在他已經提政治計畫了嘛這一碼歸一碼嘛 不要全部的事情都混在一起了謝謝 謝謝 |