| IVOD_ID |
16812 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16812 |
| 日期 |
2025-07-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第20次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第20次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-07-15T08:30:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-07-15T09:50:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:19:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a609f03e6bab1c1b7bc7ad9f551ce5fa921f80a0af5ed963d0f59045533b1f1c07575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-07-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第20次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院經濟、財政兩委員會報告併案審查行政院函請審議、委員蔡易餘等18人、委員王美惠等17人、委員何欣純等19人分別擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及國土安全韌性特別條例草案」、國民黨黨團、委員許宇甄等21人分別擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民眾消費韌性特別條例草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「因應國際情勢衝擊強化經濟社會韌性特別條例草案」、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會韌性及促進全民消費特別條例草案」、委員翁曉玲等22人擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟產業及民生紓困特別條例草案」及委員賴士葆等30人擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會韌性特別條例草案」案；本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及國土安全韌性特別條例草案」，請審議案；本院委員王正旭等18人擬具「因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及國土安全韌性特別條例草案」，請審議案等14案。二、7月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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法院會現在繼續開會進行討論事項第二案本院台灣民眾黨黨團建請院會作成決議行政院主計總署因應立法院審議中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案通案刪減之決議議址由中央各機關及所屬編列之預算 |
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刪減調整並立即將一般性補助款逐額撥付於地方政府請供決案本案經第三會期第十五次會議決議自委員會抽出淨富二讀並由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商報告委員會本案依黨團共識做以下決議令定期處理 |
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討論事項第三案本院國民黨黨團建請院會作成決議行政院立即全額撥付114年度對地方政府之一般性補助款及援助民族地區基本設施維持費另應由行政院自行調整3.636億餘元請行政院院長於一個月內向立法院提出專案報告請公決案 |
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本案經第三會期第十四次會議決議交付黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商報告院會本案依黨團共識做以下決議令定期處理討論事項第四案本院台灣民眾黨黨團有鑒於 |
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丹納市台方清台造成嚴重災情建請院會作成決議請行政院督促各主管機關積極支援各地方政府救災所需資源與經費並針對受災戶提供災害慰問金等措施請供決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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本月台灣民眾黨盲團有鉛與丹納斯颱風侵台路徑百年罕見登陸後帶來持續豪雨造成嚴重災情全台農業產物及民間設施估計損失達21億5,318萬元其中坦達是損失8億2,233萬元 增38%嘉義市損失6億2,284萬元 佔29%雲林縣損失3億2,808萬元 |
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佔15%彰化縣損失2億1243萬元佔10%高雄市損失8101萬元佔4%農作物被害面積達15728公頃平均損害全度超過三分之一換算無生物面積達5916公頃 |
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全國更有2454支電梗與三座書店等級電塔倒塌一度造成全國超過71萬戶停電台南嘉義高雄10萬戶民宅停電長達三天嚴重影響人民生活為利災民儘早進行重建工作恢復正常生活減少災害 |
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災後損失 原建請原會作成決議請協議院督促各主管機關秉持從寬從速 從簡原則主動整合資源並強化協調機制積極支援各地方政府救災所需資源與經費並針對受災戶提供災害維穩金 震住金 生活輔助 淹水救助居住服務 勞工作業協助 企業復工貸款 農業 |
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聽展災害救助及紓困、我有土地使用人紓困、園民輔助、農民協助、助學金補助、文化藝術團體集団補助等便民服務措施是否有當請公決案宣讀完畢依照立法院職權行使法第八條第三項之規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論後即議決交付審查或禁付二讀或不予審議 |
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請現在請提案黨團台灣民眾黨黨團代表張委員啟凱說明提案只去時間五分鐘 |
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丹納斯颱風已經過了一個禮拜了可是台南跟嘉義有些地方還是滿目倉儀家園淺肥很多人屋頂被吹掉了一邊在掃水一邊雨水又從天上掉了下來有一個村莊水淹到了脖子災民說再淹五分鐘整個村 |
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全部人都死掉了到現在很多人的船舖都已經被泡爛了可是搬不走搬不動他們說只好繼續躺著災民要求總統請國進來幫我們那總統冷血的說國進不能什麼事都幫忙你們社區要自救 |
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嘉義跟台南很多農作物都全毀了宜溫裡面的鱸魚 虱目魚 五國魚都死了很多民眾說 總統清廷點水來了一下總統來了 電來了 總統走了 電也走了 |
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這次德納斯颱風重創中南部台灣民眾黨在上個禮拜五就提出要求要重塑、重寬、重減、儘快救災、儘快重建、儘快補助可是被民進黨擋下來已經整整拖延了五天 |
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這五天民進黨跟親密媒體還掩蓋嚴重的災情還一路造謠希望民進黨今天有天良有良心不要再擋了 |
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上個禮拜五民進黨的幹事長吳思瑤說不用民眾黨提案行政院都在做了可是當天下午就被狠狠打臉了賴清德去了台南民眾高喊說總統我們就四到五天沒有水沒有電了還沒有人來關心 |
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災民要求總統派國軍國軍說社區要自己救有長輩說我的屋頂被吹翻了總統說有帆布長輩說我爬不上去賴總統冷血的說我們要自己爬就在賴清德教訓災民的同時嘉義的藝足鄉還有將近一半是停電的 |
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很多房子的屋頂被颱風都吹走了耐心的不救我們自己來救我還有很多民眾我們送環部到義足相公所去一路上電線 |
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2267.72 |
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電線桿都橫躺在路上有些是硬生生一半都被折斷了鄉親摸黑帶著我去看很多房子殘破不堪有的一條路就有十幾根的電線桿都是倒下來的這裡是前台灣最大的如魚養殖區農作物潛毀魚潛死掉了 |
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受災戶跟農民 叫天天不應 叫地地不靈他們說 除了鄉長之外 大官都不見了 都不來過去像這種事情 這麼嚴重的天災總統 行政院長 經濟部長 農業部長 內政部長 環境部長不是一定要鎖在災區嗎可是這次 大官都不見了民進黨跟綠媒還蓋牌 封鎖災情 |
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有一家綠媒一天報的278則新聞竟然只有3則是跟災情有關係的其他上百則都在講什麼大罷免民進黨還造謠說債務黨刪了這個預算所以沒有錢救災真相是什麼農業部特別的收入基金371億5000萬只小刪了9000萬只刪了0.2還有99.8還有372億 |
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民進黨把錢花到哪裡去了這筆錢比去年還多了六十三億被刪的只是超時錯記帳的九千萬民進黨竟然掩蓋B2同時還一花接木一根倒菜的竟然說已經沒有錢了 |
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事實上作為農業部的372億行政經典費的災害準備金還有50億第二批還有80億我們還有救災的八王條款災害防救法的第57條為了救災所有的預算各機關都可以以反救急救災第一我們有太多的錢了結果我們的政府不好好救災還那邊一直造謠 |
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這次風災損失超過了26億5000萬電線桿斷掉或倒掉的高達2500支我們請行政院長還有總統還有相關的部委所長經濟部長 農業部長多多參進去趕快救災不要再造謠謝謝謝謝詹委員報告委員會依黨團共事本案大體討論不發言 |
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現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議禁覆二讀依黨團共識本案就禁覆二讀依據立法院職權行使法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商做以下決議交付黨團協商並由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商當初的 |
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討論事項第五案本院國民黨黨團建請院會作成決議行政院、經濟部、環境部等相關決策官員應移送監察院接受調查 |
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並邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長就離岸太陽光電系統福台技術開發決策粗糙造成環境浩劫及工廠浪費之責任歸屬進行專案報告並被質詢請供決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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願國民黨黨團鑒於丹納斯颱風過境經濟部補儲1.35億元的離岸太陽光電系統浮台不堪一擊萬年垃圾塑膠浮台殘骸綿延南台灣海岸限速公里形成巨型光電垃圾奇境光電板含有金屬與化學物質沉沒海底 |
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難以徹底清除必將對台灣周邊海洋造成長期以及永久污染影響近海漁場順序本岸綠電廠商賺飽飽全民畏受其利先受其憾漁民苦不堪言無處申訴 |
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民进党口口声声核电废料无法处理强推绿能光电如今海上光电一度电都还未发政府补助1.35亿元却已拿水漂福台残骸碎片漂流不但造成台湾海洋永久耗节光电废料如何处理军卫建政府 |
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政府提出任何說明政府官員必須為粗糙的決策負起相關政治及法律責任原進行院會作成決議行政院經濟部環境部等相關決策官員應移送監察院接受調查並邀請行政院院長率統相關部會首長就禮安太陽光電系統福台技術開發決策粗糙造成環境浩劫及公帑浪費之責任歸屬 |
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進行專案報告並被質詢是否有當請供選案 選舉完畢好 依照立法院職權行使法第八條第三項之規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論後即交付審查或禁覆二讀或不予審議依提案黨團現在請提案黨團國民黨黨團代表王委員 洪威說明提案子去時間五分鐘 |
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好 謝謝主席以及我們各位同仁但那時颱風過境之後在我們的屏東沿海出現了綿延兩公里的光電浮台的垃圾而造成了海域環境的浩劫也成為令人難堪的一個台灣的奇景 |
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事實上早在上個月高雄市大柱區就是因為連日的豪雨造成多數的淹水更被發現因為開發太陽能51公頃的山坡地被開發成光電廠原來綠意盎然的山林成為了黑色的光電板 |
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而在丹納斯颱風走後高雄又連日大雨黃泥漿滾滾而下甚至出現了大山溝而這只是台灣關電板災難的冰山一角而已 |
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這次丹納斯颱風過境雖然只是中台但是屏東嘉義沿海地區發生了大面積的光電板的毀損脆弱破裂的嚴重災情光電板四散到田野殘片插入了農田還有漁溫甚至流入了排水系統跟河道這些觸目驚心的景象造成台電 |
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光電垃圾的一個奇景形成環境污染跟公共安全的重大隱憂然而這不是天災這是人禍這不是天災這是人禍這是因為粗糙錯誤的決策讓民間還有我們的農民以及全體國人承擔了他們不應該承擔的風險和責任 |
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而這個光電垃圾奇景竟然是由經濟部來核定由旭東公司執行在今年3月開始施作在加東外海3.1公里處架設海上光電示範計畫 |
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得到经济部补助1.35亿而且号称说可以运作20年说可以运作20年但是一个中台来袭就让他们催的七零八落被催到屏东加东海边甚至一路漂流到澎湖的海滩上要让政府花了大笔的钞票来收拾残局 |
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民進黨自從執政以來大量投資光電用各種公共建設以任性為名投入預算結果任性破功這些海域領海餘溫的光電案 |
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被吹哭拉朽而且被光怪陸離的被掀起被破壞根據消防署統計丹納斯颱風共造成全台光電受損一共13個場域之多 |
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台灣平均每年有三到四個颱風會侵襲這次丹納斯颱風是中台就帶來了這樣嚴重的光電板的災難而政府現在還在繼續的規劃更多的光電板如果我們不能記取教訓我們不曉得像這樣的災難還會再重現多少次 |
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而為了所謂的推動綠能中央跟地方真相把這些當作政績工程在做但是變成垃圾之後有人負責嗎有人被救責嗎有人被懲處嗎有人下台嗎沒有 |
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所有的責任所有的後果最後由全民承擔所以這次國民黨團提案要求相關決策官員應該送監察院去被調查而且行政院長也應該率相關部會就這次的事件來做報告我們要追究的是法律責任 |
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到底有沒有怠乎職種環民是不是審查不實監管不力甚至違反了相關的環保及農地使用的相關法令我們必須應該徹查要有人負責台灣曾經何時變成一個出現問題沒有人來負責的一個景象呢另外我們也要追究善後責任 |
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這些的光電板的碎片不但有所這些濃郁的損害而且也造成環境的浩劫是不是應該要盤點受損的區域建立補償機制恢復復原生產環境甚至開拔這都是我們必須要追究的好 謝謝王委員 |
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2937.544 |
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包園會依黨團共事大提討論不發言現有國民黨黨團提議禁付二讀依黨團共事本案就禁付二讀依據立法院職權行使法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商做以下決議交付黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商討論事項第六案 |
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2945.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2949.935 |
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治痛安全管理法修正草案請宣讀審查報告 |
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2951.414 |
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2971.591 |
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本院交通委員會分別於114年4月24日及5月22日 張開全體委員會議審查上刊草案均由交通委員會許肇吉委員智傑擔任主席除邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並邀請相關機關代表練習報告並備諮詢經報告及詢答完畢進行逐條審查與或源於聽取說明並經準密討論後將全案審查完畢 |
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2991.882 |
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令通过附带权一项本案并要审查完均一句审查报告提报议会讨论议会讨论前需进党团协商议会讨论时推行许以召集委员致结作补充说明宣读完毕 |
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2993.272 |
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3020.848 |
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請召集委員許委員致詰補充說明不補充說明本案經審查會決議需交由黨團協商另外委員洪孟楷等委員陳培宇等分別提案經第三會期第十五次第十八次會議決定自委員會抽出淨富二讀與相關提案併案協商報告院會本案依黨團共識做以下決議協商後再行處理 |
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3048.155 |
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討論事項第七案114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算及重計表營業及非營業部分本案經第三會期第十七次會議決議協商後再行處理包圓會本案依黨團共事做以下決議協商後再行處理 |
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3051.569 |
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3065.341 |
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討論四項第八案公職人員選舉罷免法部分條文修正草案報告委員會委員鄭天才等16人提案經第一會期第二十二次會議決議 |
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3068.147 |
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3097 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
淨富二讀由國民黨黨團負責召集協商另外委員高金素美等委員鄭天才等19人委員盧憲一等分別提案經第一會期第22次及第三會期第12次會議決定自委員會抽出淨富二讀與相關提案並按協商報告委員會本案依黨團共識做以下決議協商後再行處理 |
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討論事項第九案預算法增訂第八十一條之一條文草案請宣讀審查報告本院財政委員會於一百十四年三月二十四日舉行全英委員會議進行審查會議由賴兆吉委員世保擔任主席行政院主席總處陳主計長淑姿等分別應邀列席說明備詢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
疑惑委員於聽取說明及回答後對法案進行審查 經在場委員協商及表決後將全案審查完略原金權益並按理據審查報告提報院會本案與院會進行二讀前須交由黨團協商院會討論本案時 由賴教級委員事保補充說明宣讀完畢請賴教級委員事保補充說明無補充說明本案經 |
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審查會決議需交由黨團協商報告院會本案依黨團共識做以下決議協商後再行處理討論事項第十案國家發展基金不當投資暨管理失職調查委員會調查報告書及處理意見案本案經第三會期第十五次會議決議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3205.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
本調查報告書含處理意見及台灣民眾黨黨團之提議並同交付黨團協商並由台灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商報告院會本案依黨團共識做以下決議協商後再行處理討論四項第十一案 |
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3206.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3233.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
本院國民黨黨團建請將柯建民委員送交紀律委員會議處議案本案經第三會期第八次會議決議交付黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商報告委員會本案依黨團共識做以下決議協商後再行處理討論事項第十二案 |
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3235.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3260.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
本院台灣民眾黨黨團建請院會作成決議為維護國會尊嚴、捍衛國家憲政體制原對行政院院長卓榮泰藐視國會之行為提出最嚴厲譴責請供決案報告院會本案依黨團共識作以下決議另訂其處理討論事項第十三案 |
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3262.045 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
3267.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
老人福利法第48條條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告 |
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3269.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3296.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會於114年6月23日、25及26日舉行全體委員會議並按提出審查會議由劉兆吉委員兼我擔任主席邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並請衛生福利部部長周太元及相關人員列行說明並被質詢與會員於聽取說明及詢談完畢後進行充分討論完成本案審查 |
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3319.104 |
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原經決議 並按領據審查報告提報院會討論本案與院會進行二讀前 不須交由黨團協商院會討論本案時 由劉兆吉委員建國補充說明宣讀完畢請兆吉委員 劉委員建國補充說明無補充說明 本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商 請問院會有異議 |
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3331.814 |
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沒有異議本案進一審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論老人福利法請宣讀第48條 |
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第48條老人福利機構有項鍊其行之一者主管機關應處新台幣6萬元以上30萬元下罰款並公告其名稱與負責人姓名及限期令其感染一 虐待妨害服務對象之身心健康或發現服務對象受虐事實未向指向事件室主管機關通報二 提供不安全之設施設備或供給不衛生之餐飲經主管機關查明屬實 |
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3379.375 |
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3.違反第37條第三項規定,規避妨礙、拒絕檢查或未提供必要文件、資料及協助。4.前三款外,有其他重大情勢足以影響服務對象身心健康。有前項第一款鎖定虐待、妨礙服務對象之身心健康。 |
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第二款锁定提供不安全之设施设备或供给不卫生之餐饮或有其他重大情事致服务对象死亡者加重罚还至新台币20万元以上100万元以下必要时得令其停办一个月以上一年以下 |
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3423.18 |
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經主管機關依第一項規定限期令其改善,屆其未改善者得令其停辦一個月以上、一年以下,並於所屬網站公告其名稱與負責人姓名及未改善情形供民眾查詢。前二項停辦期間屆滿人未改善或令其停辦而拒不遵行者,非指其身歷許可、其訴法人者得令其解散, |
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老人福利機構經依前項廢止許可者主管機關並應現行令該機構繳回設立許可證書借其為繳回者應予註銷問議第36條第一項規定許可設立者有第一項第一款鎖定虐待妨害服務對象之身心健康第二款鎖定提供不安全之設施設備 |
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或供给不卫生殖餐饮或有其他重大情事致福对象死亡处其负责人信贷比20万元上100万元相返还并公告其名称与负责人姓名及另于一个月内对于其 |
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3489.566 |
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收容之服務對象予以轉介安置其無法辦理時由主管機關協助之負責人應予配合不予配合者強制實施之並處新台幣20萬元以上100萬元相罰還老人福利機構經主管機關評鑑評鑑不合格者應限期另起改善藉其為改善者處新台幣6萬元以上30萬元相罰還藉其為改善並得按次處罰 |
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情节重大者得处一个月以上一年以下庭办处分庭办其满人未改善者得废止其设立许可其处罚人者得令其解散本法中华民国一百十四年七月十五日修正制条文实行前已经主管机关平建委平等或丁等之老人福利机构使用修正前置规定宣读完毕 |
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3515.626 |
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3544.709 |
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照審查會條文通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀之條文第48條老人福利機構有下列情形之一者主委請問應處新台幣6萬元以上30萬元相還並公告其名稱與負責人姓名及限期令其感染一 虐待妨害服務對象之身心健康 |
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3565.209 |
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或發現服務對象受虐事實未向指甲師縣市主管機關通報二提供不安全之設施設備或供給不衛生之餐飲經主管機關查明屬實三違反第37條第三項規定規避與妨礙拒絕檢查或未提供必要文件資料及協助 |
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四 前三款外有其他重大情事足以影響服務對象身心健康有前項第一款鎖定虐待妨害服務對象之身心健康第二款鎖定提供不安全之設施設備或供給不衛生之餐飲或有其他重大情事致服務對象死亡者加重罰款至新台幣20萬元以上100萬元以下必要時得令其停辦一個月以上一年以下 |
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3619.224 |
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經主管儘管依第一項規定限期令其改善,藉其未改善者,得令其停辦一個月以上、一年以下,並於所有網站公告其名稱與負責人姓名及未改善情形,供民眾查詢。前二項停辦期間藉滿人未改善或令其停辦而拒不遵行者,廢止其設立許可,其訴罰人者得令其解散。 |
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3638.527 |
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老人福利機構經依前項廢止許可者主管機關並因限期令該機構繳回設立許可證書屆期為繳回者應予註銷問議第36條第一項規定許可設立者有第一項提款鎖定虐待、妨害服務對象之身心健康 |
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3639.188 |
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3656.75 |
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第二款鎖定提供不安全之設施設備或供給不衛生室餐飲或有其他重大情勢致服務對象死亡處其負責人薪條比20萬元以上100萬元下發還並公告其名稱與負責人姓名及另於一個月內對於其 |
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3683.786 |
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收容之服務對象予以轉介安置其無法辦理時由主管機關協助之負責人應予配合不予配合者強制實施之並處新台幣20萬元以上100萬元下罰款老人福利機構經主管機關評鑑評鑑不合格者應見其另起改善見其未改善者處新台幣6萬元以上30萬元下罰款見其未改善 |
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3710.496 |
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并得按次处罚请结束纳者得处一个月以上一年下庭办处分庭办其们仍未改善者得废止其设立时刻其处罚人者得令其解散本法中华民国一百十四年七月十五日修正制条文实行前已经主管经文评鉴委评等或丁等之老人福利机构适用修正前之规定宣读完毕 |
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3712.703 |
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3724.27 |
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報告院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正無文字修正決議老人福利法第48條條文修正通過 |
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3765.744 |
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報告委員會現在在議場二樓旁聽席的是台北市大安區光信理的朋友們我們在此歡迎他們到立法院參訪報告委員會本案完成立法程序後由委員登記發言每位委員時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記首先請陳委員招致發言 |
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主席各位同事還有二樓的各位大安區的朋友今天老人福利法第48條修正案參讀通過這是一個非常基礎卻也非常重要的一個改變台灣民眾黨之所以提出這樣的修法就是為了導正 |
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目前的這個老人福利機構評鑑制度跟其他的長照機構有不一樣的這個評鑑標準那這是修法通過後我們將以不合格作為處分的依據讓所有的長照機構都在同樣一個標準下受到公平的對待有助於這個制度的簡化以及這個讓資源回歸回歸到照顧的本質我要強調這樣修法並非這個放水喔機構如果有重大的疏失那評鑑結果仍然會是屬於這個不合格 |
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該有的處分限期改善公告會費等等機制都還是存在的我們只是希望避免讓第一線的照顧人員被過度的書面化行政化才能把真正的照顧品質放回放在照顧的現場本案中也納入這個過度條款就是在修法實行前已經 |
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基於到救治啟動的採取的程序仍然適用救治避免行政的中斷或是法規的追溯確保制度能夠轉軌的穩定跟公平性我們要特別感謝長期關心長照議題的朋友就協助我們這次修法的民間團體還有專業工作者因為你們在現場看到的每一個問題 |
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都是我們推動進步的改革改變最重要的力量這次修法或許只是文字上的改變但是他強調是一個以人為本的方向前進民眾黨本身會繼續努力讓每一位長者都能夠在更友善、更穩定的環境下得到更有尊嚴、更有品質的照顧謝謝大家謝謝陳委員 |
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3903.422 |
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抱怨會登記發言委員均已發言完畢討論事項第14案身心障礙者權益保障法第53條條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
3924.591 |
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委員社會福利及衛生環境委員會於114年6月23、25及26日舉行全英委員會議並案提出審查會議由劉兆琪委員兼我擔任主席邀請提案委員說明提案要旨並請衛生福利部部長邱太元及相關人員列席說明並被質詢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
3926.851 |
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宣布完毕 |
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3946.575 |
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3965.771 |
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請召集委員、劉委員見果補充說明無補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案禁一審查會意見處理現在進行逐條討論身心障礙者權益保障法請宣讀第53條 |
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第53條運輸營運者應於所服務之路線航線獲取域內規劃適當路線、航線班次、客車、機船、艙艙提供無障礙運輸服務前向路線航線獲取域確實無法提供無障礙運輸服務者各級交通主管機關應依實際需求 |
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3998.89 |
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邀集相關身心障礙者團體代表當地運輸營運者及該碗社會福利主管機關嚴商同意後不適用前項規定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
4019.7 |
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大眾運輸工具應規劃設置便於各類身心障礙者行動與使用之無障礙設施及設備未提供對號座之大眾運輸工具應設置供身心障礙者或有其他實際需要者優先乘坐之優先席其比率不低於總座位數15%並應設於鄰近車門、艙門或出入口處 |
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至车门舱门或出入口间之地板因平坦无障碍并是需要标示或播放提醒礼装座位之警御国内航空运输业者除民航主管机关所定制安全因素外不得要求身心障碍者接受特殊限制或拒绝提供运输服务 |
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第三項大眾運輸工具無障礙設施項目設置方式及其他應遵行事項之辦法應包括鐵路、公路、捷運、公運及水運等由中央交通主管機關分章決定之大眾運輸工具之無障礙設備及設施不符合前項規定者各級交通主管機關應令運輸營運者於一定期限內提取改善計畫 |
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4095.29 |
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但因大众运输工具构造设备限制或其他特殊情形依当时科技或专业水准设置无障碍设备及设施确有困难者但由运输营运者提拒替代改善计划并定定改善期限前项改善计划应报警交通主管情况核定变更时一同宣布完毕 |
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| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
4100.354 |
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照審查會條文通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問件會無異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
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第五十三条运输盈利者应于所服务之路线航线或区域内规划适当路线航线班次客车机船商舱提供无障碍运输服务其向路线航线或区域确实无法提供无障碍运输服务者 |
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| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
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各級交通主管機關應依實際需求邀集相關身心障礙者團體代表當地運輸營運者及該館社會福利主管機關延伸同意後不適用前項規定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
4161.114 |
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大眾運輸工具應規劃設置便於各類身心障礙者行動與使用之無障礙設施及設備為提供對號作之大眾運輸工具應設置供身心障礙者或有其他實際需要者優先乘坐之優先席其比率不低於總座位數15% |
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并应设于临近撑门舱门或出入口处至撑门舱门或出入口间之地板应平坦无障碍并是需要标示或播放提醒礼仗座位之警御国内航空运输业者除民航主管机关锁定之安全运输位不得要求身心障碍者接受特殊限制或拒绝提供运输服务 |
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第三項大眾運輸工具無障礙設施項目設置方式及其他運輸行使用方法應包括鐵路、公路、捷運、空運及水運等由中央交通主管機關分章決定之大眾運輸工具之無障礙設備及設施不符合前項規定者各級交通主管機關應令運輸營運者於一定期限內提取改善計畫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4239.003 |
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但因大众运输工具构造设备限制或其他特殊情形因当时科技或专业水准设置无障碍设备及设施具有困难者能由运输营运者提拒替代改善计划并定定改善期限前项改善计划应报警交通主管机关核定变更时一同宣布完毕 |
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| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4263.598 |
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法院會三讀條文已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正無文字修正決議身心障礙者權益保障法第53條條文修正通過繼續處理審查會所作之附帶決議請議事人員宣讀附帶決議之內容 |
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| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
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通過附帶決議一項請交通部會商衛生福利部就優先席標示訂定統一圖示供各大眾運輸工具業者運用統一全國一致性標示並請交通部會同衛生福利部研議優先席多元宣導措施讓社會大眾發揮禮讓精神及同理心並尊重他人使用權利宣讀完畢請問院會有依 |
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| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
4311.8 |
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無異議決定 照案通過報告院會本案完成立法程序後由委員登記發言時間兩分鐘並截止發言登記我們請第一位登記發言林月琴委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4361.835 |
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主席 各位在場的委員本席提出的身心障礙者權益保障法第53條的修正案不只是調整一張座位的名稱而是回應社會觀感跟公共空間長期存在的矛盾跟誤解不愛坐最早源自於民國65年台北市公車業者自行設置後來於民國102年正式入法 |
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民定大眾運輸交通工具應設置博愛座提供老弱婦孺跟身心障礙者優先乘坐隨後交通部也訂定了設施設計規範全面來做推行這幾年 |
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4393.373 |
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博愛座的爭議不斷媒體跟社群平台屢屢報導年長者要求讓座年輕人被指責自私冷漠的衝突案例成為新聞焦點導致原本善意的制度 |
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反而成為製造對立跟道德壓力的來源不少民眾即使身體不適也不敢坐下或在浪作時遭婉拒的時候而陷入到尷尬這些情況都凸顯出台灣社會對於博愛概念的混淆跟焦慮我們應該理解浪作是基於同理心的自主選擇而不是基於社會壓力的義務 |
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4447.092 |
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這些人表面上看起來年輕健康但其實可能有隱性需求我們不應該急著用道德眼光評價每一位乘客因此本席建議將博愛座修正為優先席這樣的名稱更清楚地傳達制度精神有需求者優先但若當下沒有明確需求其他的乘客也可以安心使用這不僅能夠降低社會的誤解跟衝突也讓社會回歸尊重跟互助這項修法不只是語言上的調整 |
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更是對社會觀念的一個更新未來透過政府跟媒體積極的宣導那優先席的一個做理念更貼近多數民眾的實際跟經驗跟好 謝謝林委員下一位請陳金威委員發言 |
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大家好今天身障全罰的三讀結果會讓原本法定老弱婦孺乘坐的博愛座往往在後面我們會用這個優先席的形式來更加保障有實際需求者的乘坐權利 |
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這樣子會讓老弱婦孺繼續能優先使用座位之外也讓能有病痛在身的民眾或者是健康不佳無法平穩站立搭乘的乘客者都能夠有一個最基本的安全保障 |
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在這邊感謝衛福部修法時願意表態支持更要提醒衛福部別忘了我們在過初審時有透過附帶決議要求未來要就優先席的標示訂定一個統一的圖示供大眾運輸工具業者來運用 |
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這邊也在本席請你提醒好好的宣導跟落實另外本次修法對我而言仍有一些遺憾就是針對法定特定座位的比例問題無論是原本的博愛座或是修法後的優先席在提案中主張應將最低座位比例從15% |
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提高到20%可惜交通部卻反對擴大保障明明2013年修法65歲以上人口僅12%如今已突破了20%10年間老人人口暴增7成我們已經是超高齡社會了所以維持舊標準早已無法因應當前的需求 |
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未來若再推動保障擴大修法時還請交通部不應再拒絕而崇尚如流以上感謝大家謝謝謝謝陳委員報告委員會登記已發言的委員均已發言完畢報告委員會討論事項均已處理完畢依黨團共事本日不處理臨時提案本次會議進行到此為止現在散會 |