| IVOD_ID |
168119 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168119 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T10:44:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T10:55:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c0cce2f78745323a08b964e64394a70074047e563c2ae1609ff736705a4ade47f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:57 - 10:55:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況（含上會期臨時提案辦理情形），並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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主席 本席有請谷主委主委好修憲 請問 |
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王委員有講話,我講話,妳要推動台價講話會,妳感覺妳要推動成效擁辦?我會動家有,還要很加油。 |
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推動課與通行每年都有這個成效平和的成績那我們看到好像特優有縣市政府拿過特優嗎有有苗栗縣喔去那邊喔找到他們那裡苗栗我看有通行譽品的那裡有沒有特優的有我現在說的是特優有嗎 |
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現的沒有,但是有優等,但是鄉鎮的有我問的是,直轄市跟縣市有特優等嗎縣市和優等級,鄉鎮公所有特優級所以縣市都沒有人拿過特優 |
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沒有嘛,我問的原來縣市和門櫃哪個特優啊那我有看到苗栗縣,苗栗縣有拿過優等然後再來都是加等嘛,都是加等所以我們看到我們這個課宇的推廣我們符合我們課委會的標準的其實縣市不多,就是縣市不多但是我的問題 |
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能不能突然間你們對於這個客家委員會推動客語為通行語的成效平和及獎勵作業要點 |
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突然改變他的這種審核標準,這也難得,主婦妳知道嗎?知道這是為什麼呢?因為裡面有很多的指標,多項的指標那些指標真的可以對應到鼓勵大眾來說客語這件事情 |
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所以過去的指標通常都是在縣市公所裡頭的人員我們現在有一部分的指標把它拿到現在就是說原本可能6000名突破就可以拿到優等那你現在 |
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能夠突破六千人的縣市就不多了你又把標準提高到一萬三這個對於在努力推廣客家化的縣市會很大的挫折因為你看你推廣 |
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就好比說老師說我們請大家要努力考到60分以上最好還有80分結果60分的就很少了你現在呢及格60分就很少你現在把及格又變又提高到75分那大家都不想好好念書啦好 我就兩位台北人說啊我們新竹縣政府 |
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推動客家不遺餘力所以我們新竹縣是客家人口比例全國最高我們總人數不多所以人數 |
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跟其他縣市比不贏包括直轄市嘛但我們人口比例最高所以在新竹縣客家化各方面我們推動起來我們很希望是把這個客家文化好好的推廣跟傳承而且也是一個很值得也一定會有好成績的一個縣市嘛對不對那所以縣政府在過去他的預算從346萬 |
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他自己縣政府編預算在做客家的事編到6370萬英語才化法國還有縣市多了很多的預算才化法國才幾個月而已今年才到4月而已公教認證人數也從560人提升到了3370人 |
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那學生認證的從只有327也提升到3584人那社區的課程也從兩班變成292班你看都是幾十倍的成長結果他們很努力想要往優等來爭取 |
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那已經快接近了你就突然把六千人的優等你又提高到一萬三這對地方很大的打擊所以我要問你們為什麼突然提高有什麼有什麼充分的理由因為你整個的推廣就推廣的不好然後個縣市也很難達到那你現在又把標準提高你這在打擊地方啊 |
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沒有這樣啦 我們的設想都不是打擊 都是要要有一個目標 本來要去朝向啦你現在六千人就已經不多 你知道優等一直都只有苗栗縣 六千人那你現在又突然把六千優等改到一萬三我不知道 我們二十幾個縣市現在我請教主委 二十幾個縣市拿過優等的你跟我講 |
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某一堆我知道沒有幾個就是苗栗而已結果你只有一個苗栗然後我們應該是想辦法讓更多縣市它達到這個程度啊新竹縣這麼努力結果被澆冷水白體委員是在為新竹縣請命 |
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其實應該說我們是為努力的請命那你看其他縣市他連優等甚至加等都沒有的他根本不會想甩你他根本客家話他就不會想努力去做啊我們回頭來再來檢討看看所以本席真的要請你們第一個你如果要改我是看不到你們音樂也講不出來你為什麼要突然這樣改 |
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那你突然改你沒有任何理由而且你前面定的標準不是說前面定的標準大家都達到全部都等於你一個階段一個階段大家都上岸了你再往下一個階段不是沒有人跟得上你的腳步你就繼續往上 |
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哇 這個很打擊地方耶因為這樣行業通行業已經六年了六年那一屆整個階段我就問這六年這六年你優等有誰嘛你現在馬上跟我說這六年只有苗栗縣政府嘛 |
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你六年來只有一個縣市達到優等然後你現在就一直把標準提高,你應該要想著六年只有一個,那你要怎麼再去鼓勵更多人達到優等啊我相信大家聽完一定認同我相信大家聽完一定認同我相信大家聽完一定認同我相信大家聽完一定認同我相信大家聽完一定認同我相信大家聽完一定認同 |
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所以現在就是說 有點像只有一個優等生 其他學生你要讓他跟上啊我們一般30個人 我還有20幾個都跟不上有一兩個或兩三個 他在努力跟的時候 哇 你教得他冷水其實這個政策這樣做真的太打擊地方了 |
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最後不好意思我再用一點時間就是我們推廣客家文化我們希望有更多生活的活動生活的推廣方式我們也想建議我們客委會譬如說在生活中我們是不是辦一些野餐音樂會其實在那裡可以選購 |
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客家歌謠還有客家流行音樂然後又可以吃著我們的客家美食類似這種讓大家在生活中可以 |
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來體會感受客家文化那這種活動是不是我們可以多鼓勵甚至我們有一些專案給各縣市他們可以來做來申請這個是第一個那再來就是我們振興我們客家的一些產業的部分是不是客會也可以多輔導我們有一些 |
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就像我剛才講的 可能一般人會覺得那個是有的時候比較感覺是鄉下人吃的可是你稍微包裝以後 大家覺得又好吃 然後又想吃像這一個部分 客委會是不是可以積極地來做我想我再加問這個問題 |
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感謝委員,您的建議,我們都跟持開放的態度討論,形成一個政策,跟地方政府和民間社團合作的推動,委員的建議,我們就另一場。對啊,因為香港政府有很多的建議,我們就在看,要不然 |
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分配一下那怎麼樣在我們課語的推廣更生活化這樣子來落實除了你看你考試你已經讓人家努力考試你都讓他很挫折那你給一些生活一點的讓更多人我們是希望包含不是客家人他們都很願意來講客家人你看剛剛王洪威委員說得動作我會說我也會 |
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我們一起努力啦 好不好好 神明 神明 |