| IVOD_ID |
168095 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168095 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T09:32:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T09:45:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106cb0dca741b87ccb88e62ad2ff7c6948154047e563c2ae160980b21b5ac2a9258a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:32:02 - 09:45:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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好主席謝謝麻煩請陳士凱部長好請陳部長好部長好委員長部長針對中東的局勢現在暫情還沒有降溫的一個狀況那其實我們看到是說燃油的部分大家都關心是那我們先看一下新聞報導燃油荒泉 |
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都受害所以說航運成本已經暴增了50億美金那再來看我們這個跟國人比較直接聯繫是航空相關所以我國籍的航空已經過去這一個月已經有調漲了這個定位服務費 |
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那現在也有一些航空公司講是說這個燃油附加費也要調漲沒錯那今天4月1號很多業者有講說多希望這是愚人節的笑話但是看起來可能是在避刑我們目前為止有沒有針對燃油附加費我們國際航空要調漲的一個規劃 |
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像委員報告確實我們這個燃油也造成了所有的航空公司的燃油價格的壓力他們成本的壓力那我們在今天民航局應該就會公布針對燃油附加費的增加所以會增加多少增加的幅度我是不是請局長跟委員報告用麥克風好不好 |
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跟委員報告有關國內線的部分因為我們已經過去就有一個建立機制就是要連續三個月中油公佈的燃油的價格如果往上調整的話我們就會來調整整個國內線的這個費用會放在全額票價裡面所以票價有可能會漲 |
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現在是勢在必行對因應燃油的這個是過往因為燃油因應國際趨勢它常常會漲漲跌跌那所以說這個要適度的去反映那這個部分我們計算出來的話大概就是每條航線會不一樣大概是平均大概是97塊錢 |
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97塊那可是對於居民的部分因為以往我們也曾經有討論過居民的部分的話我們基本上就是有一部分這個調整我們會由民航作業基金來吸收然後以兼顧這個離島所以目前居民就國內航線還是吸收多因為97塊沒有到那麼多那國際航線咧 |
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國際航線的部分的話它的調整機制就是我們也是有建立一個機制就是會有一個級距短程線長程線那大概是短程線的話是每調整那個數字局長我們可不可以講大白話因為本期還有很多問題好不好大白話就是會調就是會調但調多少 |
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調多少就是會占國際線這個是大家最關心的45塊會調漲45啦短程線的話是從17塊5會調整到45塊長程線是45.5票價咧未來票價有沒有可能調高 |
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這個剛剛所說的數字是以美金來計算那這個部分其實就是加到票價裡面剛剛所講的這個調漲就加到票價裡面那要看它原本的票價假設3萬塊那它以長城來講的話是調整45.5塊美金大概是這樣所以我們可不可以幣值一次你3萬是台幣吧 |
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你剛剛原本3萬台幣然後你現在45塊又變美金不要報喜不報憂嘛部長因為這個是全球面對長城如果你要乘以30的話長城的大概是增加了1300塊左右長城的來講來那還有票價的問題有可能現在是票價貴一回事但現在有一些航空公司是飛一班掃一班虧一班因為油真的太貴了所以也演變成有一些國家來我們看下一張 |
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抱歉有一些國家 像您更正一下長城是有每年每人45.5美元調漲為117美元那117美元算起來的話就差不多三千多塊三千多塊對不對對好 |
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部長這一些都還是第一步因為才一個月那中東戰事什麼時候衍生我們不清楚所以現在世界各國包括日本印度新加坡都已經有調整甚至什麼甚至就是要求其他航空公司來到這個國家的話我不加油要他自己帶油來飛自己飛回去有一些國家已經這樣做囉那台灣有沒有考慮跟緊 |
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向委員報告有沒有去研議因為就變成是如果說我們之後我們的油也變成是一個戰略物資能源物資那我們當然優先給我們國捷航空嘛那如果說其他航空公司飛來到台灣他帶油來飛啊 |
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是沒錯像委員報告這個部分我們其實內部有做過討論幾個原則第一國內如果真的燃油在緊迫的狀況底下當然以國際航空為優先條件是什麼不要講原則我們就講條件就是說你應該有劇本就是當到達什麼時候譬如說假設中東戰事持續延長 |
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兩個月那我們就要採取這個措施還是我們的庫存油量到什麼時候的時候我們採取這個措施像委員報告我們其實要跟中油這邊來配合看中油的公油的狀況怎麼樣它的供給如果沒有問題那我們就不緊迫但它的公油的部分我們有跟經濟部保持聯繫如果說到了只剩下大概一個月或兩個月我們大概就會用緊迫的條件來處理那我們現在原則是這樣到達緊迫的時候 |
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國籍為優先所以部長我們能夠預測中東戰事什麼時候會結束嗎這個沒辦法預測沒辦法所以要料敵從寬啊對 沒錯其他國家已經有因應了是因為我知道我們很多的航空公司我們國籍航空也就是說現在都要載油去飛不能載其他國家加油了 |
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是 向委員報告現在只要是其他的國家不讓我們加油的那他們一樣 他們的飛機進來我們也不給加油已經實施了嗎我們的原則就是這樣所以現在開始實施那現在有哪一些國家不讓我們去那邊加油報告委員 目前是沒有 |
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有喔這樣子部長你的資料掌握不夠清楚因為目前本席知道確實是有包括泰國包括幾個東南亞國家確實是有他的他不是完全不供油他還是供油只是有限制的油量所以基本上並沒有說全部限制 |
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就是沒有像委員講說他就不供油他不會不供但是有限制量部長我建議您再好好去了解一下因為可能您掌握資訊沒有那麼的清楚跟準確本席現在只要說要求因為這個是公平原則油是大家用那如果說我們買回來的油當然是先供應給我們自己國內以及我們國際航空那再來 |
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所以剛剛確定一個原則就如果說有哪一個國家宣布這樣的狀況那我們也對等採取這樣的一個因應那我們不會主動的去先講說我們不供應因為其實另外一個方面台灣的這個庫存油量其實對比其他國家來講我們不是前段班可以這麼講這很客觀嘛所以我們有沒有要採取先因應的超前部署 |
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這個部分我們會跟中油公司保持聯繫那我們也會問他像委員今天在關切那我們就會問他說有沒有辦法具備一個月或兩個月的存量那我們目前存量多少我們希望中油公司可以提供給我們好那另外本席也在看到就是有包括南韓他們現在行車管制可能已經擴及到一般國內 |
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就是說不只是現在航空業南韓現在有針對伊朗戰爭能源吃緊的狀況已經對於公務員率先先限制開車管制就是說建議公務員就先不要開車然後節省這個油量那當然這是南韓的一個做法但 |
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我覺得這也是我們現在應該要去思考的就是說部長你剛剛講到因為這個是跟經濟部息息相關能源掌控或是在新地部可是交通的問題是我們交通部也因此本席具體建議應該現在即刻就要交通部跟經濟部趕快來做一個聯合的會議並且充分的了解到底我們的油量控管到什麼程度以及我們第一階段第二階段第三階段要採取什麼措施因為我們不知道中東戰事什麼時候會結束 |
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但是料敵從寬以及我們要有比較寬裕不要說現在大家還是一樣就是說 |
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過平常生活但沒想到到最後勒緊褲帶的時候反而大家適應不良預先的讓國人知道我們的步驟反而會讓國人有所預防這樣子是不是也可以減少後續有可能帶來的衝擊謝謝委員的提醒我覺得這個提醒相當的好我們會趕快來跟經濟部這邊來聯繫他們供油的部分可以提供在運輸方面的油能夠提供多久的時間 |
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這個相關的措施什麼時候可以跟本市以及我們交通委員會兩個禮拜內可以沒有問題好兩個禮拜內請讓國人知道是說我們因應因為這個不是開玩笑我想我們2300人共同面對那再來還有一個問題是5月12號 |
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淡水的大日子我們淡江大橋完工聽說現在連鋪路的瀝青都有缺料飆漲的狀況那會不會影響我們淡江大橋完工像委員報告我們這個價格確實是有提高不過也很感謝工程會的協助我們有特別跟廠商這邊來做協調價格雖然提高但是淡江大橋所需要的大概400 |
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或者是450公噸左右的這個瀝青的部分我們已經備備好了備備好了所以對於整體的通車時程不會受到影響好那可是現在瀝青的這個原物料的調調漲多少是調漲多少是不是我請局長 |
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簡單回應一下根據我所了解的部分大概從今天四月一號大概我印象中是百分之十六還是百分之十二大概是這樣子去講了1.515%左右嘛對不對是針對濾清油的部分好所以未來可能的狀況假設中東戰事沒有結束的話有可能連全國的這些公路有需要用到濾清鋪設的部分也會受到影響是不是那這有什麼因應的措施 |
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這個部分的話工程會後面就會統一來這個做一個處理因為大概因為是屬於這個整體工程的部分之前大概就是有反應給這個工程會那工程會這邊他們大概也在本席提醒就是說這不要受到我們的這個道路的一個鋪設的一個問題那最後部長本席還是要為地方再請命一下前兩天本席陪同侯友宜市長前往我們淡水再去視察 |
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淡海輕軌南海線二期的先行工程我們已經先做那本來也期待是說能夠跟淡江大橋譬如說通車的時候能夠有一期的一個規劃但現在最新一次報了行政院13次最新一次是2025年11月已經通過鐵道局審查通過交通部報行政院了 |
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那半年過去了 到底我們現在淡海輕軌 南海鮮二期以及大家關心的淡江大橋 未來延伸的八里輕軌能不能給我們一個十三次咧我說你要審查嚴謹沒有問題 三次兩次我們趕快全部都再調整 也都調整完畢了那但是現在十三次了 五年五個多月過去了那我們的進度在哪邊 |
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謝謝委員的關心 這個我相信淡水的鄉親大家都很關注我們也希望他能夠趕快那不過現在很像在新北市這個部分在那個河岸旁邊輕軌的位置上面已經調整了 這個部長甚至你又不了解了因為局長其實也都很清楚現在還有新北市捷運局的相關人士也都有過來已經調整了我請局長來說明 |
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他就在這第13次的時候已經報回去請注意一下時間喔委員這個部分我們來努力希望他快一點我們希望他快一點就當然是快一點但是已經過半年了現在是不是計畫已經又報到行政院了 |
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現在在局裡面現在還在鐵道局在鐵道局在鐵道局但你之前跟我講不過說已經有在報局裡面報行政院因為沒有在這是報到部裡面那部裡面因為還有要跟新北市政府確認剛剛講的這個議題上面的確認度這件事我們只要跟新北市政府確認好大概就可以很快來進行 |
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上一次本席上一個會席一樣問您一樣是用這個態度部長建設不分黨派只要能夠讓地方好我相信大家都期待不管是南海線輕軌二期尤其是它是淡海輕軌的最後一里路連接整個完整路網才可以完整所以我真的要拜託部長 |
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5月12號我相信連總統也會來我們淡江大橋這邊來做開工落成的一個部分希望真的能夠到時候來帶來一些好消息好不好謝謝 |