| IVOD_ID |
168090 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168090 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T10:19:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T10:28:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c3f85e5cbb5e8675b331a35e1dda586ae4047e563c2ae1609a488f48b86ec085f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:22 - 10:28:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「能源轉型政策下我國產業發展布局，及中東衝突與全球能源供應鏈重組對能源安全之影響與因應策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家發展委員會主任委員及經濟部部長就「AI浪潮下台灣傳統製造產業競爭力強化及扶助政策規劃與執行情形」進行報告，並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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首先有請我們國安會業主委還有我們經濟部的副部長委員長 |
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首先我請教一下尤其國發會的主委跟我們經濟部的何次長 |
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你覺得美伊跟伊朗的戰爭這個是能源戰整個現在打得很激烈你覺得這樣的問題會持續多久不要隨便回答你是我們經濟計畫最主要的一個規劃者經濟不是只要在執行者 |
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你的看法怎麼樣?依照美國智庫的預估啦這個比較有可能的情況是會打四周到八周所以從二月底這樣推算回來應該在四月底之前這是機率比較高這是美國的智庫預估的 |
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但是整個世界都變化,現在誰也不能掌控誰,誰也不能掌控別人我覺得這個戰爭可能會持續很久美國資格講四到八座好像他們答應如果從其他的群來看的話,這場仗打起來是會天翻地覆的那我現在你們不能講四到八座,你要有長遠的規劃 |
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萬一我們的天然氣如果能不能在別的地方能繼續的採購現在每一條船幾乎都增加了10億萬一這個世界一直在動盪不安在持續亂下來我們的對岸把你封鎖起來你要怎麼辦所以做任何事情你要想要做到一個最壞的打算 |
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我們現在抱得很平安但是這裡面牽扯很大你一定要做到最壞的狀況會成什麼樣子但是我們都會再做滾動式的調整不會說因為這樣子我們就放棄了後面的規劃對 當然要準備 |
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你說都要採購油鹽有沒有很薄如果那邊繼續下來整個都封掉了包括沙烏地那整個整個油漆都會被打掉生產肌肉都會被打掉看起來現在的局勢是這樣經濟部的資料告訴我們就是說五月底之前LNG是沒問題 |
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那六月的話也大部分都已經到位大概只剩下六七三還沒有還沒有但這個都持都持續在補充當中那我們會隨著整個局勢的變化做滾動式的調整要為臺灣的能源做好最大的一個準備是萬一能源斷了臺灣的命脈我大概會說你們要好好努力好好加油謝謝委員那第二個問題我要請教 |
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現在剛剛那個中委員提到那上次我請教我們經濟部長所有石化的產品都在漲價都買不到貨那我們的鞏部長說買不到貨不可能我問他如果苗栗的工廠買不到貨我跟他調他說好沒有問題但是這樣的情形已經在發生 |
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這個發生了又要通貨膨脹所以控制不了因為你來源稀少你缺貨這是我們要面臨的問題所以在這一方面我們要如何來應對要來準備假如委員有知道哪一家廠商掉不到貨的話可以請經濟部我還沒我是在高鐵上兩三家碰到我做售銷的我跟您報告一下因為最主要我們是要讓這個他講的台塑那個是真的 |
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你不要以為假的喔是以前廠商都跟我們講暫停報價暫停停貨4月以後才報價所以我們現在當務之急就是說第一個確保生產不會斷貨斷料那所以台塑今天中油已經啟動了四清的一個運作那今天開始這個月會增加1.9萬 |
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噸的這個乙烯那下個月會增加變三萬噸所以這樣的一個供給量他會優先供給給做塑膠袋做衣材的這個廠商來加速這個生產我要接到一個消息現在我們啊公家單位在鋪柏油路的也要斷貨了都是停止不報價了不報價了那很多道路都鋪到一半都停下來啊是 |
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這個人都要特別注意的一個現象那個綠圈大概以前都是進口啦那現在這都是從中東伊朗進口那個比較便宜啦現在整個所以你們要掌握整個狀況要有聯合的應用好不好還有剛剛講到10年10年4月1號宣布它的石油它的油氣不出口 |
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全部擋下來所以我們面臨的危機跟美國我們能不能買得到跟澳洲能不能買得到大家都在搶貨這個要特別注意一下我希望這個要好好做應用的設施 |
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再來談到AIAI的話真的是百功百業我希望國發會我們的經濟部跟社會部要去分工你要如何去分工?因為這就叫學習要成長要跟人一樣當然現在人的機器人還有很多零件不能像人這樣的靈活那腦力的方面這邊大概沒有問題 |
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現在就是在你的視覺、在你視覺、在你手腳的應用要自行判斷所以百工百業每一個人在學習的環境不一樣尤其我們前端的話包括設計那些我們困難但是我們在製造方面專長但是我們最重要一塊就是說皮子電焊業 |
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你要設計一個模型啊那個譬如水泥工要什麼模型都要設計出來以後才會有成效那我一直強調一件事情要學習的熱場那要應用AI最重要要會問問題 |
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問問題才能去得到一個正確的答案所以如果學習這場像電視台那些名字叫他們不要亂講你要播一段時間政府播一段時間講AI的重要讓全民去學習那都是亂講話啦 |
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我們是講真的話在立法會我們都很清楚你大王他這樣現在很多人在看他這樣看他越新鮮越好越刺激越好但是都說一些無所謂我是指到說你們強制每一個電視台每一個名嘴在那個廣播的節目請大家學習AI增強台灣未來的競爭力讓大家曉得這個事情的重要你們在說 |
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有做生意的人做產業的人有了解但是很多不曉得怎樣去施力因為這都有技術老師的經驗也不交給你第二交給你以後給AI人來做他的職位又要被替代了這個人性的問題在這邊要如何去突破要如何這樣子台灣每一個人有學習AI的這種熱場因為這是未來的一個戰略非常非常的重要 |
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白宮白夜市在經濟部那邊把他分門白列找一家公司專門研究他怎樣做蛋糕怎樣去那個都是要學習的一個過程把他思考裡面才會應用得當 |
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每一個大的變化裡面在推動都非常困難但是我們一定要持之有百工百業把它分類一下大概有幾個行業有那一種模型可以來做然後做出來大家能通用個人的技術個人的know-how他把它輸到裡面就可以去改變了好不好好謝謝謝謝市長、議員 |