| IVOD_ID |
168070 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168070 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T09:33:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T09:40:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c99ea45e373648ac9331a35e1dda586aed712538f072f31b2ab1e007f00cecbda5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪毓祥 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:33:00 - 09:40:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「能源轉型政策下我國產業發展布局，及中東衝突與全球能源供應鏈重組對能源安全之影響與因應策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家發展委員會主任委員及經濟部部長就「AI浪潮下台灣傳統製造產業競爭力強化及扶助政策規劃與執行情形」進行報告，並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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主席好那我們有請這個經濟部和次長經濟部和次長黃委員好好 次長好我想第一個因為今天的題目是這樣子 |
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但是第一個我先幫我們這些產業界電腦工會等等這些來請命也就是說我們的研發替代液的話大概我們要在2029年就要全面走入歷史那過去來講的話其實我們在這個97年實施到現在碩博士的替代液的人數以及企業用人的滿意程度 |
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那加上這個基本上我們還是有很多企業的需求大概是差不多五千配合的話行政大概只有兩千六其實這個占我們國防兵力大概百分之三左右那因為他就要走入歷史要落日了所以我們想要看的是說可不可以請 |
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這個經濟部去跟內政部行政院這些人溝通我們希望能夠延續這樣的替代制度而且他對國家安全的科技發展是有很重大的幫助市長的看法 |
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當然這整個會涉及到整個國家的一個兵役制度啦那也許我們來了解一下為什麼這樣的一個制度會有一個弱點這個就是產業的需求那我覺得這個制度也是很好的所以請次長後續去跟部長然後再去跟國防部或者是內政部溝通一下 |
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再來我們現在的話呢在這個目前的這個官報這邊122沒有錯但是重點是不要忘記我們還有個301那他現在的調查的時程的話目前3月17到4月15是在意見爭取然後的話5月5號在辦公廳會 |
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那我想要請教經濟部的就是說我們現在做的大概都是比較防禦式的比較是納共型的這種外交我覺得我們在反制的做法上面比如說你是不是可以用先進製程的出口的管制去做為你談判的門票 |
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然後我們對他一堆的核能啊或者是能源的採購是不是作為調整結構性的一個順差甚至你們也應該要跟日韓歐盟等16國發起被調查者的聯盟啊因為我們也不是第一次遇到所以我想要知道的是說經濟部在這邊你除了幫廠商寫這些英文意見書到底有沒有一些實質的一些的策略可以提供給經貿辦還是說這個是歸經貿辦負責 |
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當然這個談判是在經貿辦在負責那資訊的部分經濟部也會就來提供相關資訊給經貿辦那目前據我了解就是說在跟美方所簽訂的這個協定裡面在跟美方協議的過程裡面其實許多的這些剛委員提到這些問題其實在裡面也都有 |
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跟美方也已經有達成一定的一個協議了所以我現在的問題是這樣子我不太相信美國人但美國人不可信是吧 |
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那基本上來講如果他的美方毀約那他說ART不管因為ART只是所謂的行政法而已但是你301是他的法律案所以他的位階是比我們這ART要高所以他如果說我現在301簽完了反正那個這都美國說了算那這個時候你後續萬一他ART不用那你後面比如說WTO是不是要提起爭端的解決 |
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或者是說我們的半導體出口是很強這個應該拿來作為談判的一個籌碼我希望這個加在報告裡面的話你們再提供給經貿辦的也給本席一個參考因為我覺得這個對我們很重要你們現在有內憂剛剛前面兩個委員都是內憂我現在是提及外患 |
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這個外販是馬上就到了是我跟委員報告一下就是說其實這個美方那邊他也有做一些對話說明希望跟美方達成協議的這些國家能夠按照跟美國達成協議的內容能夠來持續來推進那我們現在也在等待美方的 |
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因為你只在交報告給我好不好因為我覺得這是很重要的事情大家去這個就是忘記了啦再來的話就是你們今天的報告有沒有人看過 |
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次長有沒有看過還是部長有沒有看過這是國發會啊到底有沒有看過我現在舉幾個例子你們在經濟部裡頭這邊所寫的這個報告3月25號輔導團應用加數是1584家今天就1723家國發會還停留在1584家所以如果照你的報告1.7天就增加了輔導139家 |
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然後AI4產線3月2、4、5是50條建制中國發會的報告可能是85條以建制主席再給我一分鐘一下那你人才的培育也是因為數字你一開始3月2、4、5是12萬然後4月1號的報告又變成30989中間9萬人蒸發 |
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很多欸跟委員報告其實我們這個輔導是持續在進行啦所以這個時間會有一個累積不是你的AI市產線累積也不會那麼誇張啊你3月25號是50條建制中國發後這邊寫85條已建制國會幫你加碼還幫你建完應該是85條啦目前是目前我們這個市產線是85條對啊然後你3月25號你的增加加速的話是139加7天 |
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那你的輔導團才44團啊除下來的話可能一個輔導團一週完成3.159家我就沒那麼厲害我也走過啊因為那個都是過去一直持續在輔導所以可能有很多同步在走那國發會的報告也不能 |
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也要去驗證一下我說你們叫AI內閣這種報告兩邊的報告也不check一下或者是也不consistent check就是說你不要用人看你用AI看也可以啊好不好那最後啦最後我覺得一個也是很扯的就是你們那個AI普及率啊 |
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也是一樣喔 這個我想後續我會再請你們來做一些報告那個普及率到底是什麼然後提升目標值也是一樣 又跟國發會不同步加速也都要統計一下 好不好你們再看一下我的書片因為可能是運用的來源不一樣啦因為我們數據來源不一樣我後續再追 好不好謝謝 |