| IVOD_ID |
168062 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168062 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T09:17:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T09:25:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c353104ec5610581f331a35e1dda586aed712538f072f31b2303090bacd9a8aae5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:09 - 09:25:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「能源轉型政策下我國產業發展布局，及中東衝突與全球能源供應鏈重組對能源安全之影響與因應策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家發展委員會主任委員及經濟部部長就「AI浪潮下台灣傳統製造產業競爭力強化及扶助政策規劃與執行情形」進行報告，並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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主席在黨委員先進 立委席的政府基本上官員現在設備好像還沒連結 是不是請主席允許他們趕快調整 |
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好 那麼有請經濟部何次長國發會葉主委那請法務部的李專委和調查局的五副局長準備好 主委副局 次長我今天呢是要請檢調依法調查台塑石化供應鏈揪出假減產真風台市場恐慌的元兇請教葉主委今天不是請你以主委的身份發言你最近有去市場買菜或去消費拿不到購物袋嗎 |
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我大部分都在那一個大賣場但是你知道塑膠在目前好像市面上有恐慌是是好來謝謝你請回來次長 |
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我要告訴你經濟部主管這個名聲其實問題不是塑膠袋是在塑膠力為什麼因為現在行政院要查囤積台價塑膠袋上游大中小很好查倉庫有沒有一查就知道對不對而且就算是缺貨購物袋環境部環保袋一堆也有替代的選項但是塑膠力他要做成一次性的包裁醫療器材食品包裝尤其是醫療衛生安全還有便利性不可替代如果缺貨了事情就大條是不是這樣是 |
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好 那所以塑膠袋要抓有沒有囤積居奇的塑膠粒要不要抓 |
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我們也會去了解一下好 那我告訴你 來請那個李專門委員和副局長來我請教一下我們法務的專家來 刑法251條囤積罪他寫意圖抬高交易價格囤積下六品之一無正當理由不應是銷售者會罰三年以下好 那請問一下如果我手上我是大盤我手上有塑膠袋我放在倉庫裡不賣出去 不供貨你們要不要查請問副局長 |
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謝謝委員指教簡單回答查倉庫是不是可以查得到因為烘台跟囤積依一般社會大眾理解烘台價格是指經營者在供需失衡災難或特定節慶時趁機以不正當手段那囤積要不要打當然這個委員指教我們一定是要配合調查那塑膠粒如果缺貨查倉庫倉庫沒有塑膠粒沒有成品沒有囤積又沒有犯法你同意嗎 |
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好那往下看來先跟大家介紹一下塑膠力的最大來源台塑上游是台塑石化這個公司列解石油腦提供乙烯丙烯乙烯丙烯交給中游台塑公司的鉅烯事業部做成塑膠力然後呢再供應下游各種民生產業購買塑膠力來做成包材包括衣材食品包材還有倉儲物流連那些封裝袋都是國內的塑膠力來源台塑佔了將近75%如果台塑 |
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不供應減產是不是就會造成缺貨好往下看來台塑第一部我手上掌握一份資料寫台塑的據西事業部營務處在3月10號發文給所有他的客戶說我上游的台塑石化已經對我公司發出以秉息減產奇怪為什麼要減產而且他們在3月2號3月2號祝華喔3月2號的時候呢他就說我對我的客戶因為上游沒有給我以秉息減產嘛所以我對你們的供應量一律砍半 |
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各位228美伊戰事才爆發3月2號大家搞不好一個星期川普就搞定了為什麼台塑石化要減乙丙烯供應減半減產都不減半而且他的下游台塑石化他減產然後他的下游就對他的客戶塑膠力減量供應那這樣會不會業者恐慌提早購買需求增加價格是不是暢漲了 |
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石油輸出國料組織每次只要石油價格不好他們就聯手減產價格就應聲而起副局長你同意這樣的市場邏輯嗎?是好我們現在看二部曲3月10號是怎樣?3月2號已經通知你減半供應了3月12號的說法是說因為中東的戰事擔當我現在不只減產我還調漲一公斤10塊半而且再砍半只供應25% |
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市場發生的情況恐慌啊之前是下個月要進的貨提早叫現在是有貨就拿不管多少價格價格這個標的可能是原來的三倍以上了台塑公司據悉事業部有沒有符合刑法251條意圖抬高交易價格囤積下的物品有沒有這樣的翻譯或這樣的一個要件構成 |
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是 包委員如果台塑有減產造成中下流原料短缺引發塑膠袋的產能不是塑膠袋 塑膠粒跟你講不是塑膠袋是塑膠粒導致市面上有這個廠商烘台囤積那我們還是會繼續持續的了解但是台塑石化的三部曲昨天 昨回說話了這些百貨通路商要供應塑膠袋也請中油台塑增產以息來 中油張總經理請上台 |
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來 你會不會配合政府增產儀器你直接講會的 好很好 台塑會不會 會他本來先把他的石油腦的庫存先握住然後你政府 我先減產你政府叫我增產的時候 我產量全開啊 |
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價格是什麼 價格是現在的最高的價格跟主席申請一點點時間 我把這個講完好 所以台塑石化 名利雙收我請教一下 來往下看台塑石化囤積的是原料 不是成品台塑石化囤積原料 然後減產乙烯丙烯造成塑膠力供應不足 價格上漲然後台塑石化關閉兩條產線 |
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部長 次長 你知道嗎台塑是佔我們國內塑膠力最主要的供應商中油還是其次 台灣中油還是其次它本來三條產線去年因為中國經濟內捲他們的塑膠力過剩 到貨所以國內的塑膠力很多跟對岸買台塑呢 它就怎樣 台塑實話就關掉一條產線因為人家想要進口的 不然要買我的合理吧但是二月底減產再關掉第二條生產線 你覺得合理嗎 |
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跟委員報告 昨天那個中郵也召集了我不是問中郵 問你台塑他這樣關閉產線你知道嗎我了解他們那個台塑石化他們有關閉一條產線你知道嗎 去年先關一條 今年2月3月又關一條來 法務部調查局兩個都請來法務部調查局要不要馬上立案調查台塑石化有沒有違反刑法251條的囤積罪 |
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如果有違法我們當然會持續調查了解好來我請三個訴求第一請你馬上去調閱台塑實話今年三月前後幾個月份跟過去歷年的同比他的以息秉息的產量的消長資料第二請你們去查扣他現在油槽裡面石油腦他過去進貨跟訂貨的存礦如果他都正常那他現在刻意減產囤積原料就有控涉犯刑法251條囤積罪法務部調查局要不要辦 |
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只要有違法 報告委員我們一定會檢查的報告部專委要跑回去報告要不要辦是 有違法的情形我們一定會辦理好 謝謝主席好 謝謝鍾國斌委員請回座 |
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主席、在場的委員先進、列席的政府機關首長及官員。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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有請經濟部何次長、國發會葉主委；另請法務部李專委及調查局吳副局長準備。 |
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主席 |
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請經濟部何次長及國發會葉主委。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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主委、次長。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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我今天的議題是要請檢調依法調查台塑石化供應鏈，揪出「假減產真哄抬」市場恐慌的元凶。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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請教葉主委，今天不是請你以主委的身分發言，你最近有去市場買菜或去消費拿不到購物袋嗎？ |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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我大部分都在大賣場，所以應該…… |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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但是你知道塑膠袋目前市面上好像有恐慌？是。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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好，謝謝你，請回。 |
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次長，經濟部主管民生，我要告訴你，其實問題不是塑膠袋，而是在塑膠粒，為什麼？ |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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因為現在行政院要查囤積抬價，塑膠袋上游大中小很好查，倉庫有沒有一查就知道，對不對？對。 |
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而且就算是缺貨，購物袋、環保袋一堆，也有替代的選項，但是塑膠粒要做成一次性的包材、醫療器材、食品包裝，尤其是醫療衛生安全及便利性不可替代，如果缺貨了，事情就大條了，是不是這樣？是。 |
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好，所以塑膠袋要抓有沒有囤積居奇的，塑膠粒要不要抓？ |
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何次長晉滄 |
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我們也會去了解一下。好。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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請李專委和副局長，我來請教一下法務部的專家。 |
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主席 |
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請法務部李專委及調查局副局長。 |
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刑法第二百五十一條囤積罪的規定是意圖抬高交易價格，囤積下列物品之一，無正當理由不應市銷售者，處三年以下有期徒刑。 |
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請問副局長，如果我是大盤，我手上有塑膠袋，我放在倉庫裡不賣出去、不供貨，你們要不要查？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:33.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:33.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
謝謝委員指教…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:34.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:36.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
簡單回答，查倉庫是不是可以查得到？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:37.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:48.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
因為哄抬跟囤積，依一般社會大眾的理解，哄抬價格是指經營者在供需失衡、災難或特定節慶時，趁機以不正當的手段…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:48.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:49.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
那囤積要不要罰？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:50.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:53.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
當然，委員的指教我們一定是要配合來調查。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-01T09:19:53.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-01T09:19:59.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
好，塑膠粒如果缺貨，查倉庫，倉庫沒有塑膠粒、沒有成品啊，沒有囤積就沒有犯法，你同意嗎？同意。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:01.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:01.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
好，我們往下看。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:02.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:25.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
先跟大家介紹一下塑膠粒的最大來源是台塑，上游是台塑石化，這個公司裂解石油腦，提供乙烯、丙烯，把乙烯、丙烯交給中游──台塑公司聚烯製業部做成塑膠粒，然後再供應給下游的各種民生產業購買塑膠粒來做成塑膠包材，包括醫材、食品包裝，還有倉儲物流，連那些封裝袋都是。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.835 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:26.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:35.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
國內的塑膠粒來源台塑占了將近75%，如果台塑不供應、減產，是不是就會造成缺貨？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:35.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:35.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
好，我們往下看。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:36.551000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:50.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
台塑的第一步，我手上掌握的一份資料顯示，台塑的聚烯事業部營五處在3月10號發文給它的所有客戶表示，上游台塑石化已經對我公司發出乙、丙烯減產，奇怪，為什麼要減產？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.743 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:50.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:00.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
而且他們在3月2號的時候就對客戶說，因為上游沒有給我乙、丙烯，減產了，所以我對你們的供應量一律砍半。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:01.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:13.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
各位啊，228美伊戰爭才爆發耶，3月2號，搞不好一個星期川普就搞定了，為什麼台塑石化對乙、丙烯的供應要減產？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:15.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:26.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
導致下游台塑公司就告知客戶塑膠粒要減量供應，這樣會不會造成業者恐慌、提早購買、需求增加，然後價格是不是上漲了？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.72 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:28.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:33.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
石油輸出國或組織每次只要石油價格不好就聯手減產，價格就應聲而起。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:34.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:35.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
副局長，你同意這樣的市場邏輯嗎？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:37.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:38.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
好，我們往下看二部曲。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:39.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:41.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
3月10號是怎樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:41.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:56.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
3月2號已經通知減半供應了，3月10號的說法又說因為中東戰事，現在不只減產，我還調漲一公斤10塊半，而且再砍半，只供應25%，市場會發生什麼情況？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:56.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:57.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
恐慌啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:58.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:06.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
之前是下個月要進的貨提早叫，現在是有貨就拿，不管多少價格，價格飆漲到可能是原來的三倍以上了。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:07.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:14.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
台塑公司聚烯事業部有沒有符合刑法第二百五十一條意圖抬高交易價格，囤積下列物品，有沒有這樣的犯意或這樣的要件構成？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.774 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:16.756000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:22.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
報告委員，如果台塑有減產，造成中、下游原料短缺，引發塑膠袋的產能不足…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:24.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:25.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
不是塑膠袋，是塑膠粒。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:25.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:31.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
或是塑膠粒的產能不足，導致市面上有廠商哄抬、囤積，我們還是會繼續、持續的了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:32.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:45.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
好，再來看台塑的三部曲，昨天卓揆說話了，這些百貨通路商要供應塑膠袋，也請中油、台塑增產乙烯，中油張總經理，請問你會不會配合政府增產乙烯？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:47.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:49.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
你直接講。會的。會的？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:50+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:50.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
好，很好。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:51.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:52.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
台塑會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:52.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:02.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
會，它本來就先把石油腦的庫存握住，然後先減產，等政府叫我增產的時候，我產量全開啊，價格是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:02.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:04.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
價格是現在最高的價格啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:04.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:06.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
跟主席申請一點點時間，我把這個講完。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:07.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:10.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
所以台塑石化名利雙收啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:11.827000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:28.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
我們往下看，台塑囤積的是原料，不是成品，台塑石化囤積原料，減產乙烯、丙烯，造成塑膠粒供應不足，價格上漲，然後台塑石化關閉兩條產線，部長、次長，你們知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.908 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:28.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:50+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
台塑是我們國內塑膠粒最主要的供應商，台灣中油還是其次，他本來有三條產線，去年因為中國經濟內捲，他們的塑膠粒過剩倒貨，所以國內的塑膠粒很多是跟對岸買，台塑石化就關掉一條產線，因為人家去買進口的就不買台塑的了，合理吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:51.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:55.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
但是2月底減產，再關掉第二條生產線，你覺得合理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
何次長晉滄 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-01T09:23:56.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-01T09:23:59.843000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
跟委員報告，昨天中油也召集了…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:00.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:04.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我不是問中油，我是問台塑，它這樣關閉產線，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
何次長晉滄 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:04.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:08.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我了解台塑石化有關閉一條產線。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:08.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:08.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
你知道嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:09.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:12.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
去年先關一條，今年2月、3月又關一條。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:12.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:18.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
請問法務部及調查局要不要馬上立案調查台塑石化有沒有違反刑法第二百五十一條的囤積罪？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:20.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:23.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
好，如果有違反，我們當然會持續調查了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:23.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:49.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
好，我有三個訴求，第一，請你們馬上去調閱台塑石化今年3月前後幾個月跟過去歷年同期的乙烯、丙烯的產量消長資料；第二，請你們去查扣台塑現在油槽裡面石油腦過去進貨跟訂貨的情況，如果都正常，它現在刻意減產、囤積原料，就有涉犯刑法第二百五十一條囤積罪，法務部、調查局要不要辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
吳副局長富梅 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:50.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:53.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
報告委員，只要有違法，我們一定會去調查。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:53.495000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:55.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
法務部李專委，回去要不要辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
李專門委員貞慧 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:55.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:56.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
是，有違法的情形，我們一定會辦理。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:57.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-01T09:24:57.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
好，謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-01T09:24:59.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-01T09:25:00.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
謝謝鍾佳濱委員，請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-01T09:25:01.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-01T09:25:04.447857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
下一位質詢請邱議瑩委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |