| IVOD_ID |
168048 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168048 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-31T15:33:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-31T16:04:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/107bfa5c42886b5f0b02b77e1b38d5d022f7b5da9823539196d82b0db3b76845716be6cd68217e7c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:33:11 - 16:04:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「要求行政院院長卓榮泰即刻核准各部會動支業經通過之新興民生計畫預算共計718億元，並依法編列『警察人員人事條例』及軍人志願役待遇調整等法律之相關預算，以維護國家整體利益，確保人民基本福祉，並回復憲政體制之正常運作。」是否有當？請公決案等3案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、3月27日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席 本席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選學員祝福你通過一個艱辛的考驗我們期待未來我們有一場非常高品質的選舉落實民主政治 |
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謝謝院長那我想我今天最後一位總質詢呢我想跟院長來談一談AI我想院長一定認同我們整個全球包含台灣都進入了AI時代那也因為進入AI時代所以我們看到賴清德總統這個喊出要重啟核二核三 |
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所以我有優先我想跟院長來探討我們台灣的AI尤其院長您上任的時候我印象很深刻行動創新AI內閣這個有兩個含義一個是你們把AI把它解釋成ActiveInnovative但是AI時代的來臨你們也要讓整個的施政 |
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能夠進入AI的時代所以台灣的AI有沒有變成治理能力這個是非常非常重要的那所以要人民有感 |
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AI不是說有技術有設備這樣來建置那我們要人民有感所以這個整個的AI在台灣整個的運用我們的行政院是火車頭照道理是整個全面下去那我們也有看到這個很多的部會也都在進行所以本席今天要從幾個面向來跟院長來談首先第一個 |
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時間暫停 薛委員那現在要不要請交通部長備選 |
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我都在問院長我都從頭到尾在跟院長談因為我們這個硬題只有三位你就先問院長我都是在跟院長各部位首長就稍安勿躁我們時間繼續部長你們自由我是在跟院長來就教所以我們的交通 |
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交通最重要的就是交通的安全跟交通的順暢所以交通的安全我們在AI的部分我們有沒有做什麼樣的運用那本席剛剛提出台灣一年五十萬件的交通事故近三千人死亡那我們看到美國AI時代來臨之後他們運用這個AI它追撞事故可以減少49%等於可以減少一半 將近50% |
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那我們這個AI內閣上任兩年來所以我本期想首先請問台灣把AI應用在交通之後死亡和事故下降了多少有沒有數據好我先跟委員報告台灣因為有非常事件 |
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領先的這個半導體製造的能力所以我們設定我們AI的新十大建設裡面最頂尖的這塊叫做軟體設計我們希望把硬體變成軟體設計那我們希望用到的是百工百業都能夠進入到運用時代最終是全民建立一個全民智慧生活圈我們會把矽光子 量子 AI 機器人 無人載具都當作我們的關鍵產業 |
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至於委員所說的交通我前不久你百工百業我認同士農工商我都認同農業也可以但我現在就是針對交通我前不久到中南部一家廠商他做車用雷達甚至他用到路邊的這個裝置標誌他就是用AI的技術導入 |
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可以讓行車更安全 提醒駕駛 也可以提醒過路人所以本席要問的就是說 請問我們交通事故我們有沒有運用AI 應該先回答 我們整個的交通有沒有在運用 |
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AI有沒有應用在我們整個的交通方面像委員報告我們在AI的使用在這兩年其實我們進步的相當快交通部昨天也才開過AI推動委員會那我們每半年都會開一次那我們也跟NVIDIA接觸過了所以我們有一些路網封閉式的路網例如說高速公路例如說我舉例來講樹花路廊你們這樣講下去我的時間就沒有所以我想知道有關交 |
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你不管怎麼運用,我們民眾感受跟這個結果所以有關交通事故的部分,我們有沒有下降?交通事故的死亡已經連續幾年都是下降下降幾%?有沒有數字?我們現在已經下降7%左右,7%點幾死亡下降,那哪一類的事故下降最多? |
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酒駕的部分是下降最多的酒駕的部分這個是靠AI幫忙的嗎?這個部分不是這個部分是靠警察協助取締跟大家願意守法 |
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所以我們發現應該整個我們台灣的交通還沒有進入核心的AI治理這一塊我們希望可以加強那所以這個再來就是有關我們減少塞車交通一個是安全一個就是交通要流暢我們最重要是要把時間這個部分的運用就非常多對對對我們最重要要把時間還給人民所以現在以交通部我們 |
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一高二高甚至我們的這個所謂的縱貫路台一線我們有沒有整個的交通的AI這種 |
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我報告我一句話每次年節之前我會到各個重要的行控中心去看交通疏解的狀況都是用AI在提醒我們去看它整個數字跟前年比跟現在比如何來降低哪一條路要用什麼樣的替代道路都是AI在做指導請部長再做說明我們全台灣以 |
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以中央 那地方政府先不談中央我們整個裝了多少個感測器報告委員這個感測器相當相當多對 多少個 因為國外我們都看得到數字我現在沒辦法跟你們報告整體的數據因為它每天都在偵查當中裝在主要的交流道還是路段路段也有 交流道也都有 |
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好 那如果是這樣的話請問交通部有沒有建立一個全國AI交通平台 |
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因為你的一高二高正在建構當中我們過去是各個體系例如說省道是省道高速公路是高速公路蘇花路廊是蘇花路廊那我們現在部裡面有要求就是每一個系統要整合起來不過那個大腦的建置需要花一些時間我們現在跟NVIDIA我們跟NVIDIA正在討論說那個大腦該怎麼建置不然各自有各自的大腦我們沒有一個整合的系統那目前正在建置當中 |
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你們這個建制未來因為像一高或二高它的交流道現在像本席從新竹每次來要來台北我如果不坐高鐵我就塞在環北環北路上 |
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塞很久包含回去的時候我想部長更清楚我們從湖口竹北整個一路塞所以你有建置了這些流控系統但是有沒有發揮功能特別是你交流道會塞一定跟你下交流道之後跟地方市區道路連結這整個所以你這個平台建置之後你有沒有跟地方整個做連結 |
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有報告委員這個都有我們所有的交流道跟地方政府的智慧行控其實都是包在一起的都是串接在一起的但交通還是有它的極限我們的路欄跟路幅就是這個樣子我們透過AI或透過科技可以減少行車的時間所以現在全國的AI交通平台正在建構中什麼時候建構完成 |
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各個系統其實都自己都有了包含您剛剛所提到的高速公路跟地方政府的已經建設完成全國性的AI交通平台您剛剛說正在建構中我們現在正在建構當中但是這需要一些時間對 目標什麼時候完成我們希望一年之內能夠把整個平台建構起來但這個要看各個系統整合的狀況等於2027我們應該有整個全國的AI交通平台我們期待能夠至少有初步的整合性的要做好 |
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那我們有統一的資料標準建構了嗎 |
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我們有一個TDX系統其實是交通部所有的交通訊息全部都在裡面這個系統其實我們已經開發相當久了像這個有跟地方政府整個有連續做連接而且我們有開放給很多的民間企業例如說我們現在看到的Google Map它用的一些資訊就透過我們交通部的TDX系統所以很多的民間的APP其實是用我們這個系統那地方政府當然也是串接在這上面好 所以我想 |
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院長我們的AI運用在各個方面我們要的是民眾有感而且它真的可以改善我們的交通那這是第一個運用在交通第二個本席想請教院長我們AI防炸做到了多少 |
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我們現在有一個我想沒關係我這只是一個開頭那本席想先引用新加坡新加坡他在2025年就是去年他們一年他們的數據成功攔阻了2.6億通的潛在詐騙來電那有4000萬的潛在的詐騙簡訊他也成功的攔阻那同時呢 |
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他們去年的詐騙案件下降了27.6%總損失也下降了將近20%所以我們台灣我先問第一個問題台灣AI有沒有導入防詐就是AI有沒有這個防詐我們有一個平台上面就是用AI去尋找這些可疑的或是已經確認他是這個不法的網站或會把他當作這樣不法的行為來處理這個請部長再做詳細討論 |
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藍組率提升了多少? |
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這個攔阻率那個基本上幾乎是90%後來都攔阻其實只是一個時間的問題讓我們把這30萬則的以上的這個訊息通報給Meta以後Meta去訓練他的那個AI的系統就是教他們的AI系統認識台灣的詐騙訊息長什麼樣子結果他們在去年跟我們通報就是已經攔阻超過780萬則的 |
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財損減少多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
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院長你不關心嗎我們台灣這個人家說詐騙的天堂那我們到底成效如何我們每個禮拜都至少看一次由我們林明星政委所整理出來給我們的每個禮拜的案件數跟採選數但是這個你說檢捨多少這個可能現在要查一下數字每個禮拜都在做不同的觀測當中 |
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接著本席想要問剛剛部長也有講到我們AI防詐不只是辨識更重要是速度所以我們想知道異常的金流多久可以攔阻異常的金流譬如說異常金流 異常帳號以及異常的裝置出現的時候 |
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我們是可以立刻來攔阻或者是觸發它的延遲還是要等到民眾通報以後報案以後我們才能追這一塊我們目前做到什麼我們監管會會比較有完整的資料對一個可疑的帳戶我們想透過拉出一點時間讓他的安全時間能夠 |
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有一個考慮的空間本席這樣問就是希望因為其實民眾應該最有感的就是詐騙所以也希望您能夠時時刻刻在這一個部分能夠了解所以我們現在台灣異常金流的藍組我們很想知道AI藍組它是秒的等級還是分鐘等級還是停留在小時的等級還是人工的等級 |
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跟委員說明一下我記得上一次委員一個質詢過比如說我們接受到警視上多久可以凍結他的帳戶 |
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那我們大概是上次跟委員有回報過大概是在20分鐘以內所以現在是停留在20分鐘不是就是說他有很多種狀況第一種就是當我們知道這是詐騙帳號的時候通知銀行銀行必須立刻去把它凍結掉我想這是一個剛剛委員提到說假設銀行端他自己在做AI防詐比如他覺得這個帳戶有刻意的時候當然就立刻就鎖空了 |
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他就會等於說就會對民眾而言他比如說他可能一些網路的交易這些細節不是重點重點是民眾最關心是來不來得及擋住攔阻 |
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當然如果說我們現在的整個的系統當然就是說我剛才講說他們內部的AI啟動以後當然立刻就會在他們的那個比如說這個帳戶的警示就開始出現20分鐘還是不是那個是說被警方通知的時候通知警司帳戶要凍結他的帳戶的時候等到警方通知那太慢了那表示他知道他受騙了一個是警方通知一個是說銀行自主的發現這個帳戶異常進行管控當然是立刻 |
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這邊有一個是詐騙財損暴增65%是趨勢科技揭發就是2026年詐騙趨勢其中長輩的受騙金額最高年輕人頻率最高年輕人就是愛情詐騙他已經進入一種養套殺的模式所以 |
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整個趨勢科技調查高達90%的民眾他擔心家人受騙但是只有13%的人選擇報警包括我周圍我認識一些年輕人他真的在網路上被被愛情詐騙他不敢跟他家人講他甚至也沒報警所以本席接著要追問我們警政這個院長這一塊您真的一定要親自來督軍我們的警政金融電信 |
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有沒有即時串聯不是串聯喔有沒有即時串聯我們現在到底有沒有做到我們現在打造中心它至少有165的專線那165的專線不僅是在受理而已它也會建立一個後端的一個防止的行為像我本席所說的警政金融電信有沒有即時的串聯 |
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剛剛有嗎主委有稍微提到過一部分我們對於這些警示帳戶但是要確定他是警示帳戶之前我們必須要有一個慎重的去了解不能影響到正常的一些金流跟交易當然但是還是以安全為主剛剛本席所 |
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這個提到的趨勢科技他在最後他講其實最重要是那關鍵疫苗我們要比詐騙集團早一步我找他疫苗所以AI的用途還有AI的應用他更重要的他絕對不是事後AI絕對是即時的 |
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及時的防弊 及時的攔阻因為現在詐騙集團它本身跨平台 跨產業 還跨國際所以我們政府絕對不能警政一套 金融一套然後電信一套 那一定追不上 |
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所以我們這個部分到底現在是不是可以及時共享及時阻斷跟委員報告我們訴發部這邊負責的是假訊息的部分就是說在詐騙所以你們現在還是各做各的沒有 我正要跟委員說明那我們現在就是 |
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縮短那個詐騙訊息通報到他下架的那個時間那我們現在是跟那個像Meta跟Line跟Google我們都是用電子通報的方式因為我們要通知他把這個訊息下架你們可不可以就直接回答有沒有即時串聯我們現在通知給他們的話算不算即時串聯我們有沒有做到AI整個房價的即時串聯 |
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有 那我們現在就是中間當然是說有一些必須去確認的部分是人工 譬如說如果有人仿冒那個黃仁勳先生的話我們必須去跟黃仁勳辦公室去確認這個會花一點時間是黃仁勳先生辦公室必須做確認但是前端跟後端我們現在都是用自動化的方式這塊我等一下要問通常在一兩個小時之內他們就會把他下架確認他是不法的時候一兩個小時對 你要確認他這個是真的是 |
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不法的詐騙集團的我剛剛部長講的如果他是一個名人你至少要跟他問一下說現在網路上有你這個內容他會否認 否認我們就馬上處理所以現在名人詐騙的案件比過去最猖狂的時候應該是少掉一些 |
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我們現在也針對交友的 假金流的網路購物的 是慢慢在成長不過委員剛剛那個數字我覺得我們要回來對一下我們每一個禮拜看的數字當中沒有一個成長65%的或許它只是某一個單項或是某一個時間點那我們整個看起來是沒有這樣是緩緩的在下降案件數跟財損數那民眾沒有感覺是沒有感覺 我承認所以剛剛部長也提到您剛剛講的那個跟身為詐騙有關嗎 |
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他除了冒名嘛你那個可能是冒名是那本席接著要問我們針對身為詐騙我們有沒有AI反制AI的這樣的一個措施這個跟委員報告一下齁這個用AI來反制AI身為詐騙這個當然我們有在做 |
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但是這個在技術上會有一些限制因為我們現在身為詐騙都是所謂的那個那個就是對抗式的AI生成系統就是他在訓練的時候事實上裡面有兩個AI系統一個一直在生成假訊息一個一直在檢查說這個假訊息看起來像不像假訊息所以在這個這種AI系統裡面叫GAN這種系統裡面他已經本身都是經過AI檢測的 |
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所以AI去檢測AI的身為詐騙一定有所謂的false positive跟false negative這個事情是在理論上學理上就沒辦法百分之百的那個完全防範的那我們現在做的另外一個方法就是我們想辦法要求所有的平台還有所有這個AI產生的工具必須去標示說這個AI的影像或者是這個影像或者是這個 |
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影片他是AI產生他必須去做標示那這個事情事實上在以前在美國在拜登政府的時代美國政府也都要求各大平台去做標示只是現在就是因為川普政府上台以後他對這個事情要求比較少那我們最近也是在跟美國這個各大平台我事實上我上個禮拜才去跟美國的Google就談就是要求他們要做標示 |
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就是我們台灣政府希望做的方式剛剛部長講很多那當然本席也要特別強調我們的政府現在一定要針對剛剛您有提到 身為的語音嘛未來一定更多 包含進入選舉一定有身為的語音 身為的影像 冒名的內容 |
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政府要建立這種AI辨識的機制然後跟平台業者電信業者一定要建立這種高風險的模型然後快速通報快速下架的機制這一塊我們很希望我們政府能夠盡快來把它做到那保護我們所有的人民所以這一個部分我們希望這個詐騙現在都是AI化了所以我們希望我們的政府也能夠加緊腳步是 |
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接著本席要跟院長要談的是AI醫療我們有看到衛福部在整個的AI應用也是非常非常的多有關遠距視訊醫療這塊院長您了解多少 |
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現在做到什麼程度? |
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1369.604 |
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委員跟委員說明我們一開始就如同院長提到的我們的遠距醫療在健保的基礎是先從 |
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偏鄉就是原住民族地區或者是離島開始然後逐步的擴大擴大我們目前已經擴大到資源不足地區涵蓋的範圍已經超過65個鄉鎮地區以上那同時也不限科別他是遠距視訊還是AI遠距醫療是哪一種本席問的是AI視訊醫療的話AI遠距醫療包含 |
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歐報部長知道AI五官鏡AI心電圖能夠很快的來判讀這個有在運用嗎現在有部分在運用就是說比如說在這個視網膜的檢測我們現在有那個電子的內視鏡然後再透過AI協助判斷所以現在就部分運用那之後會陸陸續續更全面的開始進行有 我們在這個食藥署裡面有特別 |
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針對這一類的AI的軟體我們叫做Smart Device就是智慧醫材要經過取證因為它會涉及到診斷跟這個決策所以它需要經過這個食藥署的這個產業登記許可之後才可以運用所以本席想建議我們院長我們這個AI時代來臨為了照顧 |
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更貼心的照顧我們很多的長者包含偏鄉其實也跟院長提議其實像很多的園區台灣有很多園區台北新竹台南台中高雄都有其實在這個園區裡面很多的這個人才也很多的人在那邊工作他們可能也很難這個 |
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請假特別這樣去看醫生可是現在AI的遠距視訊醫療它只要有醫務室然後有AI遠距視訊的這些設備 |
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他其實可以連結到這個大醫院那也許他們就在園區內他們可以利用中午利用可能二三十分鐘大家這個來運用這個AI遠距視訊醫療下班的時候他再去拿藥所以AI時代來臨其實我們可以為我們國人節省更多的時間而且兼顧照顧他們的健康我們希望未來這個可以加速的來進行 |
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AI這個工作導入到生活是最最需要的我們要進入到應用的時代我們希望可以加速的來進行所以這目的就是我剛剛第一開始所說的全民智慧生活網圈這個就是一個AI生活的時代包含我們走向主動式政府本席接下來很快的再講一個就是過去我們很多有關社福方面AI的應用可能都是民眾有需求他來申請但是我們有了 |
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AI 運用在政府治理我們可以走向主動式政府譬如說生育補助不是等你來申請我就知道啦因為我會有很多的數據生育補助低收入戶中低收入戶甚至身心障礙者的補助我們希望這一塊這個社福的方面也可以積極的來運用 |
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院長可以嗎這個我們在資料治理的這一塊也是在AI新時代建設當中有個資料治理的這個區塊所以我們希望台灣進入這個AI時代我們也能夠跟上這整個的潮流我們要加快腳步 |
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那所以我們要進入AI這個就有很多的算力對不對那電力就是算力我想這個大家都很清楚所以我們接著我們就要來請問行政院有關我們的電力的部分行政院有沒有去這個做一個壓力的測試哪一種國安級的壓力測試第一個我們AI時代來臨我們AI新增的電力的負載 |
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還有我們這個突發的狀況碰到中東能源的衝擊再來我們現在三月底了馬上四月五六月五六七八月進入夏季的尖峰期這三個重疊整個疊加下來國安局的壓力測試院長 本席想請教你電會夠用嗎 |
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1650.901 |
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從2024年一直到現在每一次經濟部台電所送出來的報告對於我們這個AI的成長跟用電的成長經濟發展的成長它都精算在內而且每一次精算AI還沒有進入到最大的應用跟整個計算現在是這個中東的戰爭倒是我們現在要重新評估的 |
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對所以本席想請教如果天然氣這個進口我們中斷14天21天一個月兩個月怎麼辦怎麼辦 |
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我們盡量在分散市場而且我們也有計畫分散市場買更貴的 但能買多久我是說長期 我們長期在分散市場而且我們現在已經有計畫要擴充我們的安全儲量的儲氣槽我們希望把安全天數再往上多增加所以院長剛剛第一個問題您沒有正面回答我相信這三重疊加下來我們的電力一定不夠 |
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1719.574 |
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那面對電力不夠今年夏天一定碰到請問哪一區會先撐不住然後我們哪一條主幹線會先超載哪些方面會開始被限縮就有的燃煤機組都會轉換成燃氣機組它的發電量都會倍增所以我們現在是有比較多像從大陵、興達、台中等等一直有六大電廠會持續的來進行更新這個就會增加我們現在 |
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這邊有一份清大教授李敏說的2025年起每年夏天都會缺電院長你認同嗎就去年開始每年夏天去年我們還好沒有大缺電院長我們的安全量還在每次一缺電就跳電我跟您報告缺電跟跳電是不一樣的有多少的這就是因為缺電所以它跳電有的是外來的因素 |
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我們台灣很多的中小企業一跳電它的機器就燒壞幾百萬幾千萬的損失它真的是自己吞下去 |
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所以部長說明一下去年的電力情況跟委員報告其實我們每年都有在做電力的供需調查部長你覺得電夠用嗎其實電力是夠用的我跟委員報告剛剛您提到就是說AI的算力增加進來的話三重疊加下來是夠用嗎我們有預估到2030年我們會需要增加5GW的電力 |
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但是我們到2034年我們可以新增12.2GW的電力所以這個部分我們其實都有做一個長期的推估而且保證到2032年以前其實是不會缺電的一個情況 |
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那現在這個中東的戰爭它到底會引起多少這個這個油氣供應設備的損失以及它破壞之後多少時間可以恢復這次我們過去沒有評估的那我們希望這個戰爭能夠極速的米平下來那所有的設備能夠恢復供需秩序能夠恢復到正常所以本席也想繼續問這個電真的不夠用的時候請問 |
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院長你到底是先保哪一個是先保科技電不夠用的時候你是先保科學園區還是你先保醫療先保通訊軍事國防還是民生我們很擔心最後都是犧牲民生 |
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沒有民生沒有讓人民能夠安全生活下來你科技還是沒有人所以民生的用電我們認為是優先所以我們逐年在調整電價的時候民生我們也是最穩定的行政院可不可以在兩週內提出區域電網獨立運作 |
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好 謝謝 麻煩請行政院送徐欣營委員要求的報告謝謝 謝謝徐欣營委員的資訊 謝謝主任長 |