| IVOD_ID |
168036 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168036 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-30T12:00:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-30T12:09:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d0265d86f2f18c676d76e51c04d17c8a7f5bc5cff238b3be36fc5662b4090cd60e7e88b7d6e8a5905ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:00:49 - 12:09:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「國軍年度軍事投資計畫與財政負擔能力之動態平衡評估」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 有請國務部的顧部長請顧部長是 賴委員賴部長 這個說這兩天有美國幾個參議員來你要跟他們見面吧 |
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呃我我因為要上綠華園所以總是要跟他見面啊有通知你嘛對不對 |
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計劃是有 但是因為這個行程上面的衝突但是他來幾天總是會見到你啊我之所以問這個就是說他來不要只有說就叫我們通過什麼錢錢錢貨貨貨 我沒有交貨啊我就跟你舉例啊我們向美國採購976架彈簧刀300型的無人機 |
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按照規劃114年要全數交貨去年底全數交貨現在已經是今年的第一季了總金額多少錢啊 總金額55億55億啊55億到現在為止一家都沒有交你來跟人家說不要來只有push我們要給錢你要push到給貨啊 |
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跟委員報告你這裡講的那個台灣刀300是685架976架是含那個RTS600的M那個已經交了那個已經完成交運了那剩下來是台灣刀300的這個部分台灣刀300沒有交嘛就這個意思嗎對但RTS600已經291架已經交完了 |
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那所以剩下600部件剩下300的685685架沒有交什麼時候可以交完在第二季第二季什麼時候啊第二季從4月開始到6月到底什麼時候目前我們持續的掌握確切就是第二季那我要跟委員報告他其實所謂沒有交貨他是因為我前面也跟召委報告過了 |
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這些案子裡面他都會隨著迭代幫我們去做一個晶片跟相關軟體還有飛超模組的更新以符合這些避免遭受到戰場上的干擾這個不管什麼理由都是沒有交卷啦現在大家老百姓只在意這看著就說阿來個要跟人家講其他的全案期程是到116年所以基本上目前都還是算在整個的計畫節點裡面你講的來我看還有 |
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海軍委託國內造船廠建造兩艘的輕型巡航艦的原型艦本來規劃一百一十五年要交捐現在呢 美國核衛生已經告訴我們要delay了跟委員報告 這是我們國艦國造要delay啦但主要就是因為那個主機的部分 |
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主機有問題嘛因為我們國建國造都會碰到一些有關這個比如說像主機啊這些關鍵的設備這個計畫總共是多少錢啊您是說這個清洗房的圓形件嗎對圓形件 |
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總共是245億245億喔 是什麼時候開始交貨不管跟美國買跟自己做都可以啦什麼時候可以交貨報告員 這是因為主機延誤那其他的部分主機延誤什麼時候可以到貨主機延誤 那目前整個交件是在116年 |
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主計是跟美國買的嘛 對不對是的是嘛所以我講的沒錯啊還是會跟美國買的啊就是這次美國參議員來但是說他可能對我們軍國問題這個會有意見等等之類的但是我們我們要講一個東西說我都給你錢了你貨沒有給我啊一直delay delay剛才那個不管是 |
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900多價 600多價 說是600多價也是沒有給貨然後這個也是主機沒有貨 還是一樣啊還是美國不給我們貨那個部長 我剛一開始為什麼問你這個就是參議員來 你一定有機會跟他親面 |
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要不要跟他反映一下我們內法院的意見在這裡啊跟委員報告您剛剛講的那個台灣刀300跟ATIS600的這個部分剛剛已經說明了ATIS600它提前交易那台灣刀300還沒有過這個交易的節點然後它還要幫我們做迭代的更新然後軟體的更新節點沒有過是沒有過可是本來你規劃114年就要全數交貨啦 |
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有!沒有!報告委員這個要先說明一下本來就這樣寫這兩個案子事實上是預約時間就已經往後延他知會國會之後給發價書跟預約的時間往後延那就產製的整個進度而言如果您去看一下那個時間他並沒有產製進度落後的狀況來部長 |
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然後Artist 600他已經提前交了我也要報告一下相對的委員也不會希望我們接收已經過了那些迭代的舊的東西所以基本上這些我們在預約是非常嚴謹透過美軍來幫我們跟廠商做要求相關的迭代的更新 |
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不管怎麼樣 我們就是發現到說你來這裡就一直要push要預算通過 可是呢你該倒過來跟參議員反映一下我就是部長 一開頭我就問你嘛你一定會跟參議員見面嘛 對不對 會吧 |
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應該會我剛剛已經講了原規劃是要見面那後來因為這個一方面是立法院的行程一方面有後續的他們的訪問的時間的緊迫我想我們會由這個副部長來幫我來來 |
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來進行相關行程的這個就是你沒辦法跟他們見面但是但是副部長跟他們見面就這個意思是不是呃我國防部的部門是由副部長好那就拜託你交代副部長跟他講一下我們的東西要趕快給我們啦要不然的話你在這裡很難撐下去啊對不對然後你你今天講的你說1.25兆欸副部長按照你的意思是1.25兆一毛錢都不能刪喔 |
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我們國安部的立場認為這個都都是一項的都不能少我們看幾個喔李文宗前退伍外的副主委他就講了把那個無人機的這一部分通通放到年度預算所以九千億左右今天盧秀燕市長講了九千億八千億到一兆 |
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盧市長好像說希望把無人機放進來好啦 這個可能不同的角度啦那我的看法就是三千八加N其實盧市長講的跟曾立文講的沒有什麼矛盾啦因為我們是三千八加N所以你要告訴 拜託你告訴胡部長 |
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請參議員專告美國那裡 趕快出現NN不見得是發價數N就是說 能不能美國政府正式都要announce要第二批對台灣這個軍售 140億美金他只要這個聲音出來 行政部門出來國會通過 發價數晚一點沒有關係 我們都支持這時候 將8000億到1兆是OK的 |
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是OK的這個老實講大家都有公約書為了這個國家好為了我們提升整體防衛能力其實這個部長不要一定要踩那麼緊啊 |
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因為好不容易現在有收斂收斂,到八千億九千億,你要投球了啦,不用這樣,這樣你給他動一動說,唉唷,不過我相信你嘴巴講啦,心裡不是這樣想啦,我在猜啦,你心裡能夠通過九千億你就投球了啦,你就很高興才對啦,就是說more than happy啦,九千億,一點澳洲,你嘴巴講講,我也了解啦, |
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531.129 |
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532.436 |
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我們還是希望能夠通過1.25兆好 謝謝委員 |