| IVOD_ID |
168033 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168033 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-30T11:37:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-30T11:46:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d0265d86f2f18c6739e4a1d955de643b7f5bc5cff238b3beb7080941cab810cc8618b4638536ef0d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:20 - 11:46:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「國軍年度軍事投資計畫與財政負擔能力之動態平衡評估」，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請顧部長請顧部長是 王偉部長就在我們這個執行的這個當下這個美國的參議院的跨黨派的議員現在正在總統府跟總統在討論相關的事情這個事情官部瞭解他們最主要執行的目的為何 |
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我想參議員來訪這個跨黨派的這個議員來訪表示對我們的台灣的支持我想這個是幾乎是在我看起來是不分黨派那對我們要增強我們的這個國防的實力然後來在印太參與這個集體嚇阻然後增強我們的防衛的實力我想他們也應該是要表達的就是要支持我們 |
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不斷的持續增強我們的防衛實力來共同在印太地區不要形成破口能夠有效的來維持印太區域以及台海的和平穩定好,那就在這一個同時國民黨的主席鄭麗文宣布4月7號要上北京去討論 |
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這個不管什麼事情啦齁東西就對了有美國的議員來啊國民黨說要串團啊去這個北京按照現在立法院的時程啊這個禮拜三可能會召集國防特別條例的朝野協商啊因為大陣子拜五啊大清明節、兒童節、放假嘛齁所以最快分隊啊 |
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我們這是後禮拜五你歡迎就得利,就應該通過國防特別條例啦那叫大家花時間就是這樣啊國民黨剛才曾立文又要撤退了,沒關係沒關係,這一定又拖下去啦我算過時程最快最快啦啊我們知道國民黨,國民黨去,董主席去,不可能這立委不去啦這立委一定會去,啊這立委如果去,哇這你歡迎 |
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要二讀三讀,這我看困難,我算過差不多四月十七,到可能通過四月十七通過後,你們就再上議程那如果按照這個時程,剛剛部長有提到,這一個海馬仕這事情可能五月底,你們有一個退論的時間,差不多五月底你看這個有越來越緊急 |
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有沒有覺得這個事情,因為我們這個市長啊,說我們有算過差不多五月底嘛,市長這段時間啊,這麼辛苦,讓美國人在抄襲的事情,我看這個美國人,叫我們台灣人講話就是說,還給你最好一道機會啦,還給你最好一道機會 |
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你看這個五月底如果按照立法院這個時程國安部可能要花更多力跟這個國民黨溝通喔市長啊部長你有什麼看法 |
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我們只能說有一些關鍵的包括能力的那個建構的項目還有那個上限的這個金額看起來是現在還沒辦法得到交集那我是期望能夠盡快進行這個協商的時候這個部分能夠有所交集那我還是在這邊呼籲說 |
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條例的一兆兩千五百億這個條例案能夠通過那我們等預算報上來之後那大家再跟各位持續溝通那我們當然希望希望能夠在 |
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最好能夠在四月就會有一個好的結果因為剛才你說一般花架書的事情一開始兩邊如果有這個初步的討論那基本上立法院就有可能開始審議,就開始變以上,以上通過之後花架書才會來 |
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發家書來大家簽約納籍嘛大概是這樣的一個順序嘛我們對那個建案的程序是先建案建案建案之後我們把建案文件送行證核定之後送醫生等禮拜禮拜之後 |
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你看他先選,選後看過程當中,如果涉及軍購的部分,看他有沒有智慧國會,如果有智慧國會,預算也可以公開,如果沒有智慧國會,就用經營預算來審所以意思是說,普通都是預算先過後,才有發價數你講的是過去的做法?正常的這次拖延的是國防部嗎? |
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你怎麼知道要上什麼條例?我們已經11月就上了所以拖延的不是你們?我們是希望說,本來是希望說上禮拜後就可以...那我這樣問好了,過去如果像你們11月送進來,過去相關的這些東西,你差不多幾個月內立法院議程就會通過?跟之前的經驗? |
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如果以前面那個海空戰力提升跟F16V BLOCK擺動的這兩個案子通常在八月底左右條例送進來十月底到十一月初之間那個預算會通過三個月這樣子看起來大概是三個多月接近四個月三四個月嘛對 條例加預算轉播啦轉播就是說從你們 |
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送進立法院開始大概四個月應該預算會完成然後後面這個相關包括發價書也是在那個後面因為重點還是後面的那個預算書表因為裡面有很多項目在過去審議的過程當中委員會非常認真的針對每一個項目去有項目有數量有金額嘛對全部 |
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所以這次算李煥宜有托到啦不過這個還是要請部長跟市長再多費點心啦阿不然沒辦法啦,你像今天盧秀恩講的,盧秀恩講的都假的啦盧秀恩講的你要收驚很多啊我們上禮拜三、四天,九一日我委員講八千一百一九九千一一日就沒有啦 |
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那些都是假的,那些都是以前假的,重點是他們八千億、百億、九千億,經歷百三天,連一個人說就沒有,所以你們要預作一個準備,就是說林煥英如果真的通過實行,只有三千八百億,看你們要怎樣 |
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施長你看你什麼,不是說回去你說,你如果叫美國人通電話的時候,人家說你不是跟我講的很多,要3800億,施長你這樣沒誠信這事情可能要想想看,我想你叫美國人講的時候,應該是一直拜託,說我們有些時間,我們國內有我們國內 |
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審查的這個過程,快了快了快了,應該快了,我們要溝通可能有這樣的對話出現,但是真的通過3800億這市長你跟美國人說話,我看有多麻煩這可能對我們國家,搞美國之間的誠信問題因為我知道你們很期待立法院趕快把這個事情 |
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條例通過預算送進來然後審議然後完成這個預算的這個書表都通過之後你們才有辦法跟美國跟其他國家有後續的商討嘛應該是這樣啦好最後啊請這個部長跟相關的單位啊可以有人問到這個極致顧問的事情這個公司當然對在國安部相關的單位裡頭啊 |
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得標的案子只有兩件啦可是他們投標的案子不是只有兩件啦有投公報相關的投標的啦,不是投標的啦他們也投了法務部的案子他們也投了榮總的案子他們也投了高速公路局的案子這些案子的案名看起來啊大部分都跟資料庫有關 |
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所以尤其顧問簿,有些小額的,一百萬一人,一百萬一十萬的不要輕忽尤其後面如果要讀到我們裡面相關的資料庫的這個大家都要特別注意一下,因為你是顧問簿所以這一些在提醒裡面要特別的注意不要說這間公司啦,就是說 |
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有時候你們用最低標啦,有時候有評選啦,看起來那個薪額對共和國相關的單位來說,也沒有多啦就不要輕忽,因為那個都會進去處理到資料庫的問題好,義雄謝謝好謝謝,謝謝委員提醒 |