| IVOD_ID |
167993 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167993 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-27T14:47:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-27T15:17:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:29:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bdee1919f50aca9e2ab6689d54d01cd788bb722289ea54f8448a3b9381d4dee826b757c7aa9b9ad15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:47:20 - 15:17:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、3月27日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、3月31日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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首先有請我們卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選 |
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陳委員好 卓院長好 昨天謝謝你一道美觀的花苗栗的一件大事 恭喜的事情你的英文說得很好 |
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阿在這,今天是我們館長,總統任縣長特別感謝你不敢不敢不敢你這樣中央協志美光到銅鑼科學園區去接牌去設廠帶給苗栗一個翻天覆地的改變因為苗栗在新竹科學園區北中樂化南就是台中科學園區但是長期都被忽視 |
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這是美光帶進來的話可以說給地方的產業有很大的一個改變尤其目前能造就兩千五百個人的就業機會未來可能會達到一萬人因為他準備在那個地方大醜汁他看上那個地方風景好百姓很純樸而且剛好跟台中新竹他管理的非常方便 |
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所以我這邊要特別拜託我們丑院長多多重視苗栗雖然票你們贏了也是沒有贏過但是我相信牡蠣已經有推進了讓苗栗縣能真的把它起飛發展起來這點特別拜託那有談到水庫的問題 電的問題苗栗縣全都給你記起來 |
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所以在施工期間都非常平平安安順順利利管部長也在旁邊你昨天的時候 |
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這邊我也講了很多次了那個桃子苗大溪谷計畫苗栗有三個地方一個是竹蘭科學園區的第二期一個是桃園科學園區一個後龍產業園區昨天你們來了我相信應該更有信心來幫助苗栗縣發展它整個科技因為科技能帶動一個良性的循環這一點我特別的拜託 |
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多多關注苗栗縣現在高雄台南加一都發展起來了我們那塊的保地你應該多多的重視好不好好謝謝昨天報告現場所提到的水資源的問題還有建築剩餘土方的問題我們都已經積極在處理了其實那個土方問題他提的方法是非常的好啊 |
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昨天公布場結束之後還虔誠的去騎雨結果昨天就開始下雨謝謝你啊我再拜託昨天是苗栗縣非常光榮也非常履歷有光榮的一天大家都非常的興奮謝謝中央跟地方這樣合作就是最好的景觀你中央來支持地方地方也一定配合全力配合我們中央的政策我再次的拜託多多照顧苗栗縣好 謝謝那我再來請我們執事長 |
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陳主席長今天請你上來你一般把你認為你是冷牙但是我一直跟你在談的事情發覺你非常接地氣你這種來選民意代表或縣市長我們都很怕 |
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你不要不好意思,我們張正宇縣長會請我說特別要感謝因為財政數字化分化苗栗縣是被財政監管的一個縣市,台灣省維英當時財政數字化分化的時候你把他列在第一位,好,把我們批比準不知道怎麼說,你把四條要怎麼發動但是一直跟你協調溝通,你馬上了解狀況 |
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因為你以前在省政府做過也在台南市政府做過所以你一講的時候你也很客氣會竭力的幫忙結果也是我們賴總統跟我們 |
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左院長的一個決定,把他從一級降到十級讓我們喘了一口氣讓我們苗栗縣有發展的機會所以這次機會特別表揚你,也特別感謝你你還要教我,我們希望對五級現在沒錢,都讓你控管理都沒辦法一定你早上去,感覺苗栗縣好啊 |
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如果財政收支發文法改為陸域的話你拜託給我五年的緩衝期苗栗縣就會生農豪雨這點我要特別跟你拜託確確實實我們人民的群眾是這樣苗栗應該要更美麗才對啊財政收支發文法這個 |
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修訂之後苗栗確實是在集數裡面來算是第一集給中央這種調節的彈性的能力我們就有辦法來對地方做更多的照顧我講不僅是即次如此 |
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即便是財政收支發分法的內容也是如此我們一直希望保持中央更好的彈性所以請委員能夠支持運版的財化法能夠再度的修正財政收支發分法應該兩方面要來好好談一談各讓一步起中間式我相信台灣會更好我們都會了解這一切好不好 執記長謝謝你 特別表揚你不然坐在那邊給你活動活動一下 |
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好 謝謝再來請財政部長請財政部長備選那個卓院長 這個是我第二次質詢你我說啊 以台灣產業經濟發展的角度讓台灣的家熱於去打世界的市場 |
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那我為什麼一直談這個因為台灣的電子業非常發達所以這個加熱魚的時候跟台灣的電子產業有關係你不要看我吃飯報告院長 那個市場很大我們台灣的魚品市場一年大概有兩千億的規模 |
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那加熱菸的話大概有五百億的規模這可以一二十億、三四十億美金在外面去爭奪市場我相信給台灣一個機會會打出很漂亮的成績所以現在我們台灣只有被美商、日商來獨佔 |
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台灣的加熱儀沒有加速機會這主要原因在於全世界只有美國跟台灣要求加熱儀上市以前要提供健康風險的評估審查只有美國、台灣、日本沒有這樣我們最崇拜的日本沒有這個要求因為以下的防治法規定製造外銷不然現在說的外銷 |
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也要經過健康風險的評估這樣的規模這樣的做法看起來也先進啦但是我要說我們自綁手腳我要懷疑政府的作為為什麼給美商給日商進來台灣已久公司幾十年的老公司台灣的電子業那麼強壯那麼強盛在要賣東西賣不回來大家都找不到你們要健康風險評估是怎樣 |
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請你把美國跟日本的健康風險評估給我們參考一下你們也不送我不曉得你們的態度是怎麼樣那為什麼一直在強調好啦不要抽煙毒害台灣人日本美國的加熱煙能到台灣來毒害台灣人好你們允許他我不要在台灣做我外銷可以吧 |
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我們這個思維的觀念要改啦因為這個市場太大了不亞於電子的市場我跟你講 |
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啊你看法怎樣?你上一次說講,叫他們加油那台語公司特別感謝喔因為關於昨天沒有人敢講話,我敢講話他們非常感謝喔,說我真正把他們的聲音發聲出來連竹政黨的都不敢講大家都默默委屈,我覺得不能容許這樣的情形在台灣發生 |
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你看我怎麼樣我第一遍講啊好 謝謝委員家樂園我們第一個階段希望他能夠在台灣合法的上市所以現在已經達到第一階段了那第二個階段我們希望本地自產的產業也能夠持續的加強能夠達到這樣的標準 |
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加入到整個營運在生產國內的這個行列裡面來那至於說未來依照營業方法的種種的規範以及要不要外銷那是等到我們在地生產產業更健全之後他依照他產業自行的營運才去瞭解去進行我們外銷的產業只需要外銷地區的國家的需求就可以了他敢外銷那也請人家導致大家怎麼敢隨便做 |
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我告訴你外銷要開放啊我們盡量讓我們的產業 國內生產的快點建築起來它才有能力提供國內 也提供外銷現在第二階段要趕快把它處理部長 你在這邊站著會不發表台灣漁業公司感謝我 都沒有感謝你啊所以不要太保守啦我們的衛福部啊 |
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拜託拜託外銷的產業國內我不信我不銷我會不存這個市場大概要存很困難的我跟你講台灣醫療公司也沒有辦法競爭啊那個抽菸是一個習慣如果能外銷我們打出一條路出來嘛我們不要自我設限好不好你看法怎麼樣部長 |
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委員跟你說明就是台酒這個菸我們有在輔導他要經過一些健康的測試可以危害的評估我們在輔導他至於我委員在說的就是這個內銷跟外銷要脫鉤因為現在菸害防治法26條它是規定這個指定菸品沒有經過健康風險評估許可的製造輸入都是違法這個罰則也很大 |
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沒有那一條 他只收26條 這條要內銷跟外銷外銷我們應該偷偷啦我們來研究一下啦什麼研究一下啊 老實不疑我偉了啦人家在搶市長 台灣人以為這樣搶我們要動畫面的啦這個增加外揮很嚇人 |
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我跟院長報告可能沒有抽菸啦你不瞭解這個市場抽菸適量就好我跟你講有抽也不錯啦我不要說好啦最起碼精神病會減少很多啦施減壓力啦現在各方面我希望這一點能突破以往的思維好不好不過委員還是可以禁煙就禁煙我的觀念很態度不要這邊跟我講廢話你們那個反菸團體一來你們就怕了 |
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現在有幾好不一定就有兩好啦用各種思維去考量讓台灣的產業能繼續的發展打出一條台灣真正品牌的一條道路好不好那衛福部副市長請你回座現在才正好這個我訂的台詞我愛瞄瞄麻煩你就是自然製品廠活化 |
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轉型讓地方共創酸硬的一個問題那臺灣醫療公司在直蘭製品廠不過一定在市中心裡面最精華的地區佔了6公頃那是在我資深所在地直蘭村製品廠已經生產不符合經濟的效益在民國114年9月就停工改採外購 |
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大家都怕勞工反對那製品廠有79位的員工因為因應你們對外的採購部分調整回直覽啤酒廠你們那裡就有一個該多的啤酒廠在我們直覽鎮院長有空下來喝一喝18度的清涼啤酒非常讚又新鮮的目前只剩下17名員工在那個製品廠 |
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六公頃的土地那麼大的廠房只有17名的員工這叫做浪費資源所以你一定要想你自己的財政部一直想要去收集錢我們也要想要怎麼賺錢所以在這個地方 |
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整個苗栗縣政府除了我們直覽的鄉親都希望把最快土地的活化那我們中東景縣長也一直強調不然你只有直覽製品廠在整個直覽鎮變成市中心一個獨立環境像那麼大地啊 沒什麼健康地啊 |
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我希望這邊能真正的活化來帶動地方的一個繁榮發展因為我這個地方不錯已經超過10萬的人口不也還以紫北市職能投入加起來大概跟紫北市一樣所以我希望這邊你要自動來跟我們談還是我請苗栗縣政府跟你談如何來活化這塊土地也請院長支持啊不過財政部的時候都比較保守他只有想收入 |
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跟委員說明一下竹南製品廠確實在去年的9月28號就停止生產酒瓶 |
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現在只做那個啤酒瓶的烙印那這個場區確實大然後如同委員所說的所以我們認為我們會要求菸酒公司就這塊土地要去做綜合的評估要做多元的多元方式的活化跟運用然後 |
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在運用的之前要跟地方政府要能夠討論那麼討論出一個模式是對地方能夠發展更好然後對這個動產不動產的那個資源可以做更好的運用這個部分我們會請菸酒公司做這方面的努力我們要合法第一個你土地一定要重劃因為在市內 |
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正的一個中央裡面給你開工廠未來都不可能你應該是你們要同意苗栗縣政府跟宜久公司就討論這一塊土地要如何來規劃土地是你們的我們是從旁協視但是你工廠在那邊讓我們地方的繁榮有所阻礙我是說你大陸這一點先做不要講理由 |
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那阿伯土地你們要怎麼發掘是你們決定的不是我們苗栗縣政府直然存在決定的好不好我們希望那塊土地能蓋百貨公司或是什麼人家會有去投資因為我們已經有具備這樣的條件了 |
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這樣你知道嗎好我們會跟苗栗先生一起討論讓這個地方發展也好土地也能夠有效的運用我希望三四個月就有成果出來選舉的要到我今年不用選舉我不用那個很多人都說這個問題我長久在談什麼一直沒有解決我希望在我任內能把這個問題解決好不好一切拜託啦謝謝好謝謝你 |
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院長,整個事情你應該很清楚要求拜託再來談教育部長麻煩請教育部長現在 |
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我們苗栗縣直覽投入聯合都市計畫加起來大概有22萬人口跟紫北市差不多一樣它又緊鄰的新子市跟新子縣都是跟中華地區在一起 |
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那因為這幾年苗栗縣整個都有在改進在進步之中那我們緊鄰著新竹科學園區台中科學園區該重要我們苗栗的房價比新竹市 紫北市比 |
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那個台中市還要低了大概二三十%所以很多新竹科學園區的人一直永逸直來因為我們交通的系統非常的便利隔壁新竹市新竹縣科學園區 |
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職人投入到科學園區比薪職需要到科學園區還要快大概二十幾分就能到了所以人口一日的非常多當然職人有科學園區台積電的Covas的一個進入這幾年人口迅速的增加 |
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竹南鎮這幾年有國道3號還有台61線西濱公路高架化還有國道1號跟舞陽高的延伸所以交通非常便利醫療系統也在我們賴總統我們卓院長這樣的一個幫忙之下苗栗集中醫院也開始在建立 |
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大圈醫院大概600多床的醫院也在建立通宵同綜合醫院也在建立還有縣裡的綜合醫院女綜合醫院也準備在擴建之中都準備在這醫療在苗栗大道的投資所以大家喜歡 |
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比較喜歡來苗栗啦那苗栗尤其自然說頭文的話人口薪資增加教師不夠啦現在還要去...要去組合屋啦大概起來要... |
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頭份的話大概要三十五間教室照然國中啊主覽要三十間啦要八億多啦啊管政府只要大概出兩三億而已出的可以幫我們補償一下不要再住那個組合屋沒看靠的啦 |
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部長您不回答看起來不怎麼贊同啊沒有 部長很有做法的你請部長說明感謝委員關心我們孩子的教育我想委員剛才所提的確實因為初初他 |
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確實因為產業的一個活絡然後成為這個許多這個外來人口包含在地人口都增加所以我們在這個行政院有一個新興人口的一個成長去成立高中職以下的這個校舍的一個興建工程計畫我們事實上對苗栗的 |
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這個投訓國中也有這個全額補助的1.7億元然後其實這個教室也提供了有大概有20間的你以為起來一個人飲料教室還不夠我們賴總統下去在藝民廟要講說他會全力解決這個不曉得你有沒有因為藝民廟討錢公的去到苗栗 |
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整整一整天去看了一些中小學也感謝委員關心那我想我們在許多的這些學校裡邊我想我們中央跟地方一定會來看未來許多的教室 |
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苗栗的許多的學校的一個新蓋完以後在未來的教室裡面的一些設備需求我們教育部再看來怎麼樣跟地方來一些合作我現在談的未來的需求我們都曉得教育日益的中心但是現在一定在撐撐要挖80間的教室在這叫做燃眉之急 |
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幫全民幫忙趕快解決這個問題其實都在那個人口的變動我們都有檢驗然後那個高尺裡面要怎麼檢查我們都陷阱都有說到阿固看起來都在講我會我會但是我不曉得我還是跟委員報告一件事情 |
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剛剛部長說的那個新興的人口增強的地方增加的地方的校舍新增或新建的計畫從111到114年編列了70億那114年之後的現在中央地方財政的結構已經不一樣我們是否有能力中央再編那麼多的協助地方或是地方應該用地方自治事項來自己來完成更多的工作這正帶中央跟地方再進一步的協調 |
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好 現在什麼都卡在財政措施畫面了我們大家要來努力解決這個矛盾的問題其實這個對立法委員是不好的 |
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如果這樣分配的話 立法委員沒有什麼職權你們都不了解 我當過省議員才了解這個現象委員你說到很重的重點沒有沒有 我不能亂講我只是把我真實的狀況給大家了解地方現場的實權都比較大 |
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大家稍微調整一下能互相滿足對方大家照著這個程序來進行現在講到什麼都是財政收支方法進退兩難好不好一起努力來解決謝謝部長謝謝委員的關心我想這個教育這個我們會努力我相信你你的台語講得很好請回座再來交通部還有時間 |
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好 我們年輕又英俊的陳部長那我很遺憾 我本來對你帶著一個期盼跟期待房地交流道雖然公路級已經合訂了但是你合訂的公文合得不甘不厭的樣子當然看起來是財政措施或分化的影響 |
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你說那個聯絡道路都要全部我們來負擔以前你們去幾個部長從你們當交通部長每一個答應苗栗縣財政困難我們會全力支持我們前額負擔來跟你出來都翻盤了我告訴你 我要很相信你我說你沿途給我觀賞你給我寫那本文我看到很傷心我覺得我不怎麼信任你啦 |
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報告委員你說的這個院裡這個交流道的部分在您的關心之下我也已經簽合這個沒有問題但確實我們交通部包含公路局所未來可以支應的這個公件的預算其實是降低了不少在整個財政收支劃分法之後 |
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那您剛剛也有提到一個重點就是說現在縣府的能量其實加大很多中央的政府其實我們能夠給地方的錢就少了所以這個部分我們如果能負擔我們當然會協助但我們目前看起來是無法負擔所以交流道的部分全額我們會來處理我知道交流道全額你的聯絡道路土地徵收要我們那我土地徵收我們來出那聯絡道路中央吃一半我們苗栗吃一半 |
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我去協調溝通不然我也不知道你核定下來會完成或不完成那差很多啦我們研究一下啦但是聯絡到的部分因為你常常去可是你猶豫不猶騙啦你應該要做出來給他們看啦好不好謝謝啦感謝你也對台中這部份講一條台中也應得到一條聯絡道路土地費用苗栗縣政府來支出 |
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但是連絡道路的工程費用 個人負擔一半好嗎 答應下來這樣要求 拜託你跟我講幾十年都說好 現在土壤翻了 民主要發財我答應說閘道這部問題 但是連絡道的部分 這經費我們再來討論好 一定一人一半 我算這樣很虛弱 |
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答應下來 還有我提出三百話這個也很重要 為人民的不改革從到現在第七屆到現在十幾年我都一二十年都在談這台電只有談文跟大山還沒有 |
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雙軌化還有白沙屯跟新埔沒有雙軌化通宵到宴旅沒有雙軌化但是日蘭跟大甲好像是走了所謂台商重要苗栗不重要都一直拖延到現在 |
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這農莊的經費只有六十幾億農莊十五點九公里這三個地段你遲早把它打通啊你南部什麼捷運啊什麼一發都七百億七百億才六十幾億七十億而已啊報告委員這個部分我也很關心因為這個價位是因為檀紋一直到我們台中的追分啦到大陸的那堆分所以我們是整個大陸在討論這個雙軌化的部分因為這個大陸如果雙軌化我們整個運量可以大幅度提升 |
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我們的計畫是從談文一直到台中的對婚 |
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1635.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
所以是幾大作會啦 不是只說台中喔 是幾大作會是幾大作一會兒就好 要趕快來做啦我們現在在中規規劃跟環評的階段幾大都要做 即是現在在中規跟環評的階段中規跟環評的階段走過了 幾大作會要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1648.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1666.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
這又要一段時間,因為這段是卡在台中那邊,還有一些界面,譬如台中那邊跟沙陸火車站,這邊要怎麼吃跟他們的捷運怎麼吃,還有一些界面在討論,不然我們會中規和環評,我們也希望快一點這樣你的意思是台中好,到外面比較妙妙,妙妙感冒犯法,我們說台中要給台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1669.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1679.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
這是講一個假話台中為重要分秒就管不重要因為它是同一個計畫在同一個計畫裡面一起做最後一個問題燕尼火車站你也去那個雙軌化那個跨戰士的夜台 歐益政府你就很窮算是答應我要納入這個雙軌化計畫裡面又沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1694.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1708.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
納入裡面 現在要把它納入的時候要再重新計畫要來改變我看你們有沒有附帶測試把驗療的專規化那個跨戰式的液體把它完成因為它都變很熱鬧 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1711.511 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1734.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
西邊的話很冷漠 靠近海邊的地方就是這條鐵路隔絕在那邊發展起來完全不一樣那西邊的話 包括苗栗縣族一大片的土地放置在那邊 也就沒有什麼發展如果這邊把它做起來的話我相信對西邊的 因為你鄉親啦發展的機會就比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1735.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1757.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
你知道這個嗎?報告委員,這我還沒去看過,但是你這樣說是讓你東西邊兩邊要合在一起,但是如果你要說...擴散式的月台,還有電梯就好擴散式月台,我們可以討論...不然你那條沒有三軌化後沒辦法,因為我了解大概地方的情形不然你就把它繞一圈嘛,改變路線也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1759.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1781.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
沒關係,我來了解一下好,我們專案來了解,這樣好,我拜託你你眼睛又笑臉,一定要幫忙你每次到苗栗縣我就噼噼聲你都去替我拉,不是拉給我的票,拉北省的票啊我這個帳沒有算,用這個來補一補好不好是好,謝謝我執行結束了好,謝謝陳委員 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:20.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-03-27T14:47:21.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
：主席，首先有請卓院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:21.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-03-27T14:47:21.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
麻煩再請卓院長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:55.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-27T14:47:55.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
陳委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:56.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-03-27T14:47:56.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
卓院長好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:57.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-03-27T14:47:59.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
昨天謝謝你到美光…… |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-27T14:47:59.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-27T14:48:01.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
也謝謝你，這是我們苗栗的一件大事，是值得恭喜的事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.522 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-27T14:48:02.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-27T14:48:10.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
你的演講真的講得很好，今天我們鍾東錦縣長也表示要特別向你感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.517 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-03-27T14:48:10.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-27T14:48:11.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
不敢、不敢。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-27T14:48:11.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-27T14:49:16.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
中央協助美光到銅鑼科學園區去揭牌設廠，帶給苗栗一個翻天覆地的改變，因為苗栗在新竹科學園區的南邊，再往南的話就是臺中科學園區，但是長期都被忽視，這次美光進來的話，可以說給地方產業很大的改變，尤其目前能造就2,500人的就業機會，未來可能會達到1萬人，因為他準備在那個地方大投資，他看上那個地方風景好，百姓很純樸，而且剛好跟臺中、新竹相連，管理上也非常方便，所以我在這邊要特別拜託卓院長多多重視苗栗，雖然選舉的得票你們沒贏過，但是我相信努力、努力一定能推進，讓苗栗縣真的能起飛發展起來，這一點要特別拜託。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-27T14:49:16.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-27T14:49:19.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
有關於水庫的問題、電的問題，苗栗縣絕對全力給予支持。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-27T14:49:22.683000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-27T14:49:26.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
所以在施工期間都是平平安安、順順利利。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-27T14:49:27.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-27T14:49:48.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
龔部長昨天也在旁邊，其實我也講了很多次，有關桃竹苗大矽谷計畫，苗栗有3個地方：一個是竹南科學園區第二期，一個是頭份科學園區，一個後龍產業園區。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-27T14:49:48.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:02.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
昨天你們來了，我相信應該更有信心來幫助苗栗縣發展整個科技，因為科技能帶動良性的循環，這點我特別的拜託，多多關注苗栗縣。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:02.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:09.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
現在高雄、臺南、嘉義都發展起來了，我們那塊寶地，你應該多多的重視，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:10.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:10.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:10.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:17.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
昨天包括縣長所提到的水資源的問題，還有建築剩餘土方的問題，我們都已經積極在處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:17.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:18.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
而且昨天…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:18.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:20.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
談到土方問題，其實他提的方法非常的好啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:21.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:24.931000+08:00 |
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是，昨天龔部長在活動結束之後還虔誠地去祈雨，結果昨天就開始下雨了，如果雨不夠，還會繼續祈雨…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.488 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:25.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:27.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
謝謝你，還要再拜託。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:27.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:35.979000+08:00 |
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昨天是苗栗縣非常光明也非常美麗、有光明的一天，大家都非常的興奮，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:35.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:37.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
中央跟地方這樣合作，就是最好的型態…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:38.960000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:43.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
對，中央支持地方，地方一定全力配合我們中央的政策。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:44.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:48.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
我再次的拜託，多多照顧苗栗縣，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:48.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-27T14:50:49.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
我再來要請主計長。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-27T14:50:49.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-27T14:51:08.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-27T14:51:08.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-27T14:51:23.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
今天請你上來，民意一般把你們認為是冷衙門，但是我一直跟你在談事情，我發覺你非常接地氣，你這種來選民意代表或縣市長，我們都很怕你。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-27T14:51:23.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-27T14:51:28.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
你不要不好意思，我們鍾東錦縣長也請我轉達說特別要感謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-27T14:51:28.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-27T14:51:46.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
因為財政收支劃分法，苗栗縣是被財政監管的一個縣市，臺灣省唯一，當初因應新版財政收支劃分法做財力分級調整的時候，你把苗栗縣列在第一級，讓我們「皮皮挫」，不知道苗栗這樣接下來要怎麼來發展。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.53 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-27T14:51:46.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:00.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
但是一直跟你協調溝通，你馬上了解狀況，因為你以前在省政府做過，也在臺南市政府做過，所以你一講的時候，你也很客氣說，你會竭力幫忙。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.965 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:01.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:19.024000+08:00 |
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結果也是賴總統跟卓院長的一個決定，把它從第一級降到第四級，讓我們喘了一口氣，讓我苗栗縣有發展的機會，所以藉這個機會特別表揚你，也特別感謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:19.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:20.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
謝謝委員，我們是依據各縣市…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:19.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:22.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
你還要再改，我們是第五級，現在沒錢，都被你們控管了，都沒辦法。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:23.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:40.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
院長，你昨天去了，感覺苗栗很好啊，如果財政收支劃分法改為第五級的話，拜託你，給我們5年的緩衝期，苗栗縣就會生龍活虎，這點我要特別跟你拜託…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:40.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:41.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
是的，苗栗應該要…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:40.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:41.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
全力支持，我們面臨的環境是這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:41.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:42.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
苗栗應該要更美麗才對啊！對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:42.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:53.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
財政收支劃分法修訂之後，苗栗確實是在級數裡面來算是第一級，但是…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.793 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:53.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-27T14:52:57.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
什麼第一級，我們窮得沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-27T14:52:57.729000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:04.857000+08:00 |
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但是報告委員，給中央這種調節的彈性能力，我們就有辦法對地方做更多的照顧…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:04.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-27T14:53:05.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
這個我了解。 |
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0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:05.178000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:16.322000+08:00 |
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我想不僅是級次如此，即便是財政收支劃分法的內容也是如此，我們一直希望保持中央更好的彈性，所以請委員能夠支持院版的財劃法能夠再度的修正。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:16.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:28.385000+08:00 |
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其實財政收支劃分法應該兩方面要來好好地談一談，各讓一步取中間值，我相信臺灣會更好，幾十年來的經驗，我們都了解這一些，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:29.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:30.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
主計長，謝謝你，特別表揚你。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:30.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:31.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
是，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:30.726000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:33.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
不然坐在那邊，給你活動、活動一下。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:34.567000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:35.627000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:35.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:36.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
再來請財政部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:36.388000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:36.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
麻煩請財政部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-27T14:53:36.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-27T14:53:39.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
卓院長，這是我第二次質詢你，我說以臺灣產業經濟發展的角度，讓臺灣的加熱菸去打世界的市場。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-27T14:54:04.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-27T14:54:06.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我為什麼一直談這個？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-27T14:54:06.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-27T14:54:13.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
因為臺灣的電子業非常發達，所以這個加熱菸跟臺灣的電子產業有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-27T14:54:13.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-27T14:54:15.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
你不要看我抽菸，報告院長，那個市場很大。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-27T14:54:15.799000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-27T14:54:38.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我們臺灣的菸品市場，一年大概有2,000億的規模，那加熱菸的話大概有500億的規模，讓這個有一、二十億或三、四十億美金的產業可以去外面爭奪市場，給臺灣一個機會，我相信會打出很漂亮的成績。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-27T14:54:40.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-27T14:55:07.065000+08:00 |
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現在我們臺灣只有被美商、日商獨占，臺灣的加熱菸沒有競爭的機會，這主要原因在於全世界只有美國跟臺灣要求加熱菸上市以前要提供健康風險評估審查，只有美國、臺灣有這樣要求，日本沒有這樣要求，我們最崇拜的日本沒有這個要求。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-27T14:55:08.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-27T14:55:29.572000+08:00 |
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因為菸害防制法規定製造外銷，也要經過健康風險評估，這樣的規模、這樣的做法看起來很先進，但是我跟你說，我們是自綁手腳，我會懷疑政府的作為，為什麼給美商、日商進來？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-27T14:55:29.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-27T14:55:54.586000+08:00 |
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臺灣菸酒公司是幾十年的老公司，臺灣的電子業那麼強盛，他們要銷東西銷不出去，大家都找不到，也不知道健康風險評估是怎樣，請你把美國跟日本的健康風險評估給我們參考一下，你們也不送，不曉得你們的態度是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.859 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-27T14:55:55.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-27T14:55:57.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我為什麼一直在強調？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-27T14:55:57.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:09.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
好啦，不要抽菸毒害臺灣人，日本、美國的加熱菸能到臺灣來毒害臺灣人，你們容許它，那我不要在臺灣做，我外銷總可以吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:10.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:12.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我們這個思維、觀念要改啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:13.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:19.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
因為這個市場太大了，不亞於電子的市場，我跟你講，你的看法怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:19.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:42.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你上一次叫他們加油，臺灣菸酒公司特別感謝我，因為關於抽菸沒有人敢講話，我敢講話，他們非常感謝我，說我真正把他們的聲音發出來，連執政黨的都不敢講，大家都默默不語，我覺得不能容許這樣的情形在臺灣發生，你的看法怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:42.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:43.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
這是我第二次講了。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:44.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-27T14:56:45.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-27T14:56:45.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:03.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
關於加熱菸，我們第一個階段是希望它能夠在臺灣合法的上市，所以現在已經達到第一階段了；第二個階段，我們希望本地自產的產業也能夠持續的加強，能夠達到這樣的標準，加入到整個營運，在生產國內的這個行列裡面。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:04.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:17.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
至於未來依照菸害防制法種種的規範，以及要不要外銷，那是等到我們在地生產產業更健全之後，依照產業自行評估，才去了解、去進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:18.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:27.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我們外銷的產業只要符合外銷地區的國家需求就可以了，它敢外銷，那也要投資錢下去，大家怎麼敢隨便做？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.795 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:28.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:29.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
我跟你說，外銷要開放啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:31.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:40.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我們儘量讓我們的產業國內生產的快點健全起來，它才有能力提供國內也提供外銷，現在第二階段要趕快把它促成。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:40.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:49.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
部長，你在這邊站著也不發表意見，臺灣菸酒公司感謝我，都沒有感謝你，不要太保守啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-27T14:57:50.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-27T14:57:59.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我們的衛福部，拜託、拜託，外銷的產業，國內我不銷，我也不爭這個市場，大概要爭是很困難的。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:00.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:03.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我跟你講，臺灣菸酒公司也沒有辦法競爭啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:04.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:11.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
抽菸是一個習慣，如果能外銷，我們打出一條路嘛，我們不要自我設限好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:11.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:12.615000+08:00 |
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你的看法怎麼樣？部長。 |
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0.889 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-27T14:58:13.696000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:23.138000+08:00 |
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委員，跟你說明，就是臺酒的菸，我們有在輔導他，它要經過一些健康的測試、危害的評估，我們在輔導他。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:23.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:26.119000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
你要怎樣輔導？ |
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0 |
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石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:26.119000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:40.783000+08:00 |
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剛剛委員在說的就是內銷跟外銷要脫鉤，因為現在菸害防制法第二十六條規定，指定菸品沒有經過健康風險評估許可的，製造、輸入都是違法，這個罰則也很大。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:41.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:42.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
沒有那一條，它只說…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:43.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:46.965000+08:00 |
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第二十六條這一條，如果要把內銷跟外銷脫鉤…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.474 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:46.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:47.486000+08:00 |
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外銷我們應該脫鉤啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:47.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:48.606000+08:00 |
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我們來研究一下啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:48.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:49.606000+08:00 |
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什麼研究一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-27T14:58:50.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-27T14:58:52.447000+08:00 |
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時不我與了啦，人家在搶市場，臺灣，你以為這樣搶，我們要多方面的啦，這個增加的外匯很嚇人欸。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:01.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:05.812000+08:00 |
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我跟院長報告，可能你沒有抽菸，你不了解這個市場。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:05.812000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:07.112000+08:00 |
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抽菸適量就好。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:08.412000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:20.635000+08:00 |
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我跟你講，有時候也不錯啦，我們不要說好，但最起碼精神病會減少很多，可以紓解壓力，現在各方面……我希望這一點能突破以往的思維好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:20.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:22.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
不過，委員還是可以戒菸就戒菸。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:22.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:43.142000+08:00 |
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我要看你們的態度，不要在這邊跟我說不錯，到時候反菸團體一來你們就怕了，世界上有一好不一定就有兩好，要用各種思維去考量，讓臺灣的產業能繼續發展，打出一條臺灣真正品牌的道路好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.802 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:44.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:46.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
衛福部石部長請回座。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-27T14:59:46.803000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-27T14:59:59.873000+08:00 |
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現在請問財政部長，這是我地方的事情，我要麻煩你，就是有關竹南製瓶廠活化轉型，讓地方共創雙贏的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.568 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-27T15:00:00.934000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:00:11.843000+08:00 |
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報告院長，臺灣菸酒公司竹南製瓶廠在市中心最精華地區占地6公頃，那是我的出生所在地──竹南鎮。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.548 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-27T15:00:13.945000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-27T15:00:39.239000+08:00 |
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製瓶廠生產已經不符合經濟效益，在民國114年9月就停工，改採外購，大家都怕勞工反對，製瓶廠原有79位員工，因為因應你們對外採購，部分調整回竹南啤酒廠，你們在那邊剛好有一個很大的啤酒廠，就在我們竹南鎮。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-27T15:00:39.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-27T15:00:45.542000+08:00 |
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院長，有空下來喝一喝18天清涼生啤酒，非常讚又新鮮！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-27T15:00:46.442000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:00:58.673000+08:00 |
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目前只剩下17名員工在製瓶廠，6公頃的土地，那麼大的廠房只有17名員工，這叫做浪費資源！ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-27T15:00:59.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-27T15:01:07.062000+08:00 |
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所以你們一定要想，財政部只會一直想要有收入，我們也要想能怎麼賺錢！ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:07.062000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-27T15:01:32.838000+08:00 |
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所以在這個地方，整個苗栗縣政府除了我們竹南的鄉親都希望把這塊土地活化，我們鍾東錦縣長也一直強調，不然這個竹南製瓶廠在整個竹南鎮市中心一個獨立的廠房，占地那麼大，裡面都空了，我希望這邊能真正的活化，來帶動地方的繁榮發展！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.772 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:33.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-27T15:01:42.081000+08:00 |
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因為我們這個地方不錯，已經有超過10萬人口，不亞於竹北市，竹南、頭份人口加起來大概跟竹北市一樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.707 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:42.081000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:01:51.344000+08:00 |
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所以我希望針對這個地方，你要主動來跟我們談，還是我請苗栗縣政府跟你談如何活化這塊土地？ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:51.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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2026-03-27T15:01:57.366000+08:00 |
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也請院長支持，否則財政部都比較保守，他只有想收入怎樣增加，但是這塊土地活化起來，對你們的財政收入很有助益，對地方幫忙也很大，這一點可以幫忙嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.312 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:57.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-27T15:01:58.366000+08:00 |
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會不會幫忙？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:58.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-27T15:01:59.366000+08:00 |
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就是竹南製瓶廠的活化！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-27T15:01:58.146000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-27T15:02:49.270000+08:00 |
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跟委員說明一下，竹南製瓶廠確實在去年9月28號就停止生產酒瓶，現在只做啤酒瓶的烙印，這個廠區確實大，如同委員所說的，所以我們會要求菸酒公司就這塊土地做綜合評估，要做多元方式的活化跟運用，然後在運用之前要跟地方政府能夠討論，討論出一個模式是對地方發展能夠更好，然後對不動產的資源可以做更好的運用，這個部分我們會請菸酒公司做這方面的努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-27T15:02:52.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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2026-03-27T15:03:01.821000+08:00 |
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部長，我們要活化，第一個，土地一定要重劃，因為在一個鎮的市中心開工廠，未來都是不可能的！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:03.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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2026-03-27T15:03:28.607000+08:00 |
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應該是你們要同意，然後苗栗縣政府跟菸酒公司就討論這一塊土地要如何規劃，土地是你們的，我們是從旁協助，但是工廠在那邊，就讓我們地方的繁榮有所阻礙，我是說你應該要從這一點先做起，不要講以後，土地是你們的，以後要怎麼發揮是你們決定，不是我們苗栗縣政府竹南鎮在決定的，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.828 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:28.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-27T15:03:38.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
我們希望那塊土地能蓋百貨公司或是什麼，人家就會去投資，因為我們已經具備這樣的條件，這樣你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:38.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-03-27T15:03:43.992000+08:00 |
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好，我們會跟苗栗縣政府一起討論，讓這個地方發展也好，土地也能夠有效運用。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:44.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-03-27T15:03:55.556000+08:00 |
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我希望三、四個月就有成果出來，選舉年要到了，我今年不用選舉，很多人都說這個問題我長久在談，怎麼一直沒有解決？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:55.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-03-27T15:03:59.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
我希望在我任內能把這個問題解決，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-03-27T15:03:59.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-03-27T15:04:00.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
一切拜託了！謝謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:00.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-03-27T15:04:00.878000+08:00 |
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謝謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:05.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-03-27T15:04:12.381000+08:00 |
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院長，整件事情你應該很清楚了，要向你要求跟拜託。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:12.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-03-27T15:04:14.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
再來請教育部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:14.842000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:04:15.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
麻煩請教育部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:15.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-03-27T15:04:49.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
現在我們苗栗縣竹南、頭份聯合都市計畫加起來大概有22萬人口，跟竹北市差不多一樣，它又緊鄰新竹市跟新竹縣，都是和精華地區在一起，因為這幾年苗栗縣整個都有在改進、在進步之中，我們緊鄰著新竹科學園區、臺中科學園區，非常重要！ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-03-27T15:04:50.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-03-27T15:05:07.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
我們苗栗的房價比新竹市、竹北市、臺中市還要低大概20%、30%，所以很多新竹科學園區的人一直湧進竹南，因為我們的交通系統非常便利。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-03-27T15:05:09.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-03-27T15:05:28.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
隔壁是新竹市、新竹縣科學園區，竹南、頭份到科學園區，比新竹市要到科學園區還要快，大概二十幾分鐘就能到了，所以人口移入非常的多，當然竹南有科學園區台積電CoWoS的進入，這幾年人口迅速的增加。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.791 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-03-27T15:05:30.093000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-03-27T15:06:13.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
竹南鎮這幾年有國道三號、臺61線西濱公路高架化、國道一號跟五楊高的延伸，所以交通非常便利，醫療系統也在我們賴總統、卓院長的幫忙之下，苗栗急症醫院也開始在建立、大千醫院大概六百多床的醫院也在建立、通霄童綜合醫院也在建立，還有苑裡的李綜合醫院也準備在擴建之中，都準備在苗栗大大的投資醫療，所以大家比較喜歡來苗栗。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-03-27T15:06:14.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-03-27T15:06:42.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
尤其苗栗竹南、頭份的人口迅速增加，教室不夠，現在還要蓋組合屋，頭份大概要35間教室，照南國中──竹南要30間，需要八億多，縣政府只出二、三億而已，剩下的可以幫我們補助一下嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.712 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-03-27T15:06:43.960000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-03-27T15:06:46.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
不要再住那個組合屋，很難看啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-03-27T15:06:48.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-03-27T15:06:50.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
部長不回答，看起來不怎麼贊同，教育要…… |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-03-27T15:06:51.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-03-27T15:06:53.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
部長很有作法的，請部長說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-03-27T15:06:53.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-03-27T15:07:33.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
感謝委員關心我們孩子的教育，委員剛才所提的，竹南確實因為產業的活絡，成為許多外來人口移入，包含在地人口都增加，所以我們在行政院有一個因應新興人口的成長，而成立高中職以下校舍新建工程計畫，我們事實上對苗栗的頭份國中也有全額補助了1.7億元，興建教室也提供了大概有20間的教室…… |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.879 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-03-27T15:07:33.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-03-27T15:07:38.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
那些蓋起來已經都用完了，但教室還不夠，我們賴總統下去，在義民廟也講他會全力解決，這個不曉得你有沒有……在義民廟前面說的喔！。 |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-03-27T15:07:38.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-03-27T15:07:57.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
委員，上一次我也有去苗栗整整一天，去看了一些中小學，也感謝委員關心，在許多的學校部分，我們中央跟地方一定會來合作…… |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-03-27T15:07:57.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-03-27T15:07:58.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
這是現在最急需的…… |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-03-27T15:07:57.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-03-27T15:08:12.240000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
未來苗栗許多學校的教室新蓋完以後，在教室內的一些設備需求，教育部再看怎麼樣跟地方來進行合作。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-03-27T15:08:12.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-03-27T15:08:28.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
部長，現在談未來的需求我們都曉得，教育日益的增進，但是現在已經在缺，缺了將近80間的教室了，這個就是燃眉之急，請你幫幫我，趕快解決這個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-03-27T15:08:28.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-03-27T15:08:38.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
跟委員報告，其實在人口的變動我們都有所掌握，教室要怎麼增加和地方都有…… |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.531 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
陳委員超明：講了很久，看起來都在講 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-03-27T15:08:40.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-03-27T15:08:42.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
我會、我會，但是我不曉得…… |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-03-27T15:08:42.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-03-27T15:08:43.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
沒有，我們確實已經有做…… |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-03-27T15:08:42.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:13.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
我們還是跟委員報告一件事情，剛才部長說的新興的人口增加的地方校舍新增或新建計畫，從111到114年編列了70億，在114年之後的現在，中央地方財政的結構已經不一樣，我們中央是否有能力再編那麼多的錢協助地方或是地方應該用地方自治事項自己來完成更多的工作，這正待中央跟地方再進一步的協調。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:14.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:17.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
好，現在什麼都卡在財政收支劃分法…… |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:17.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:19.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
這是真的啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:19.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:22.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
我們大家要來努力解決這個矛盾的問題……很好。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:22.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:24.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
其實，這個對立法委員是不好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:26.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:30.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
如果這樣分配的話，立法委員沒有什麼職權啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:30.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:33.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
你們都不了解，我當過省議員太了解這個現象。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:33.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:35.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
委員你說到很重的重點了。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:35.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:36.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
沒有，我不能亂講啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:36.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:44.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
我只是把真實的狀況讓大家了解，地方、縣長的實權都比較大嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:45.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:51.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
大家稍微調整一下，能互相滿足對方，大家照著這個程序來進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:52.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-03-27T15:09:56.914000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
現在不管說到什麼都是財政收支劃分法，進退兩難，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-03-27T15:09:57.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-03-27T15:10:00.876000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
一起努力來解決，謝謝部長，要記得喔，拜託你。 |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
鄭部長英耀 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-03-27T15:10:00.876000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-03-27T15:10:04.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
謝謝委員的關心，我想教育我們會努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-03-27T15:10:04.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-03-27T15:10:08.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
我相信你，你的臺語說得很好，請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-03-27T15:10:10.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-03-27T15:10:11.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
再來請交通部。 |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-03-27T15:10:11.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-03-27T15:10:25.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
麻煩請交通部部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-03-27T15:10:25.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-03-27T15:11:02.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
我們年輕又英俊的陳部長，我很遺憾，我本來對你帶著期盼跟期待，房裡交流道雖然公路局已經核定了，但是你公文核得不甘不願的樣子，當然看起來是財政收支劃分法的影響，你說那個聯絡道路全部都要我們來負擔，以前你們去，幾個交通部部長，每一個都答應，苗栗縣財政困難，我們會全力支持，全額負擔，等到你出來都翻盤了。 |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-03-27T15:11:02.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-03-27T15:11:03.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
報告委員，你剛剛自己有提到…… |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-03-27T15:11:02.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-03-27T15:11:12.914000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
我跟你說，我很相信你，我說你英俊又有官相，但你寫那篇文，我看到很傷心，我覺得我不怎麼信任你了。 |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
0.732 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-03-27T15:11:14.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-03-27T15:11:30.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
報告委員，你說的苑裡交流道的部分，在您的關心之下，我也已經簽核，這個沒有問題，但確實我們交通部包含公路局未來可以支應的工建預算降低了不少，在整個財政收支劃分法之後。 |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2026-03-27T15:11:30.683000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:46.270000+08:00 |
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那您剛剛也有提到一個重點，就是現在縣府的能量其實加大很多，中央政府能夠給地方的錢就少了，所以這個部分，我們如果能負擔，我們當然會協助，但我們目前看起來是無法負擔，所以交流道的部分我們會全額來處理。 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:46.370000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:48.171000+08:00 |
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我知道交流道全額。 |
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1 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:48.171000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:49.171000+08:00 |
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但是聯絡道要拜託地方政府幫忙。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:11:48.171000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:04.538000+08:00 |
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你的聯絡道路土地徵收要我們，那土地徵收我們來出，聯絡道路中央出一半，我們苗栗出一半，我去協調溝通，不然我也不知道你核定下來會完成還不會完成，那差不了多少啦！ |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:04.538000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:05.538000+08:00 |
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一、兩億而已啦。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:05.538000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:06.538000+08:00 |
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匝道我們是一定會做，這沒問題。 |
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0 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:04.698000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:05.119000+08:00 |
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我們研究一下啦！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:05.299000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:05.959000+08:00 |
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一定會做，但是聯絡道的部分…… |
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0.583 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:06.039000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:07.360000+08:00 |
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苑裡你常常去，那是綠油油一片，你應該要做出來給他們看，好不好？謝謝！ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:07.540000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:09.341000+08:00 |
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感謝你也對臺中這邊這麼好，因為那條臺中也用得到。 |
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0.636 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:09.661000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:33.151000+08:00 |
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那條聯絡道路土地費用苗栗縣政府來支出，但是聯絡道路的工程費用，各人負擔一半，好不好？ |
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0.868 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:33.631000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:33.811000+08:00 |
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答應下來啦！ |
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0.8 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:33.811000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:34.811000+08:00 |
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沒有，要看我們的預算夠不夠。 |
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0 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:33.811000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:37.633000+08:00 |
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這樣跟你要求、跟你拜託，你跟我說幾十年都說好，現在突然翻盤，我的面子要放在哪裡？ |
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0.543 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:37.633000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:38.633000+08:00 |
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這是我的面子欸！ |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:37.833000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:40.254000+08:00 |
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我答應匝道，這沒問題啦，但是聯絡道的部分，這經費我們再來討論。 |
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0.852 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:40.254000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:41.254000+08:00 |
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好，可以討論哦！ |
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0.167 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:40.334000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:56.221000+08:00 |
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一定一人一半，我算這樣算很……答應下來啦！ |
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0.882 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:56.221000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:57.221000+08:00 |
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繼續討論。 |
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0 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:12:56.221000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:42.924000+08:00 |
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還有鐵路雙軌化，這個也很重要，幾十年一直沒有改變過，從第7屆到現在一、二十年都在談，其中還有談文到大山、白沙屯到新埔、通霄到苑裡沒有雙軌化，但是日南到大甲好像是做了，所以臺中重要，苗栗不重要，一直拖延到現在，這總共的經費才六十幾億，總共15.9公里，這三個地段你們順便打通嘛，你南部什麼捷運啊，一花都幾百億、幾百億，這才六、七十億而已。 |
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0.715 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:44.125000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:53.266000+08:00 |
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報告委員，這個部分我也很關心，因為這個計畫是從談文一直到我們臺中的追分，到大肚那個追分，所以我們是整大段在討論雙軌化的部分，因為這段如果雙軌化，整個運量可以大幅提升。 |
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0.868 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:53.266000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:55.876500+08:00 |
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我跟你們說，這就叫偏見，以前你們覺得苗栗不重要，沒什麼發展，人口沒有那麼多……不會。 |
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0 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:55.876500+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:58.487000+08:00 |
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所以你們把它輕忽掉了，你們都靠近大都市蓋起，從臺中大甲到日南都花了很多錢，全省的海線鐵路雙軌化只有這段還沒做，你們捨不得出手。 |
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0 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:13:58.487000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:27.985000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們的計畫是從你說的談文一直到臺中的追分，是整段在一起的，不是只有臺中，是整段在一起。 |
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0.512 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:27.985000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:30.227000+08:00 |
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是整段在一起嘛！是。 |
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0.25 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:30.227000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:30.688000+08:00 |
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這要趕快來做啦！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:30.848000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:32.069000+08:00 |
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有啦，我們現在綜合規劃跟環評兩階段。 |
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0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:32.069000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:33.069000+08:00 |
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講幾十年了，兩條蓋了又停下來，有做跟沒做一樣，何必嘛！ |
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0.043 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:33.069000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:34.069000+08:00 |
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要做就有氣魄一點啦！ |
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0 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:32.469000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:34.431000+08:00 |
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有，整段都要做，只是現在在綜規跟環評的階段，綜規跟環評的階段走過就…… |
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0.767 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:34.931000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:34.931000+08:00 |
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要多久？ |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[182].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:14:48.488000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:01.080000+08:00 |
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這還要一段時間，因為這段是卡在臺中那邊還有一些介面，譬如臺中那邊和沙鹿火車站這邊要怎麼接、跟他們的捷運要怎麼接，還有一些介面還在討論，不然我們的綜規跟環評，我也希望趕快過。 |
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0.823 |
| transcript.gazette[183].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:01.400000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:03.783000+08:00 |
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這樣你的意思是臺中好了，才會換到苗栗…… |
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0.647 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:03.783000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:04.783000+08:00 |
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不是，這是…… |
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0 |
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陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:04.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:05.783000+08:00 |
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苗栗難道沒辦法？ |
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0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[186].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[186].start |
2026-03-27T15:15:05.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[186].end |
2026-03-27T15:15:06.783000+08:00 |
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是怎麼樣一定要…… |
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0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[187].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[187].start |
2026-03-27T15:15:06.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[187].end |
2026-03-27T15:15:07.783000+08:00 |
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這是同一個計畫。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[188].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:06.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[188].end |
2026-03-27T15:15:06.886000+08:00 |
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……在臺中。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[189].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[189].start |
2026-03-27T15:15:09.447000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[189].end |
2026-03-27T15:15:11.088000+08:00 |
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這是同一個計畫。 |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[190].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[190].start |
2026-03-27T15:15:11.768000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:14.489000+08:00 |
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是你臺中市出身的，臺中為重要，我們苗栗縣不重要啊？ |
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0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[191].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:15.050000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:16.190000+08:00 |
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不會，因為它是同一個計畫，在同一個計畫裡面一起做，所以要整個談。 |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[192].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:16.530000+08:00 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:47.162000+08:00 |
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最後一個問題，苑裡火車站，你如果過去，那個跨站式月台，我已經努力了很久，上次答應我，要納入這個雙軌化計畫裡面，又沒有納入裡面，現在要把它納入說要再重新、計畫要改變，我看你們能不能附帶設施，把苑裡跨站式月台完成？ |
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0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[193].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
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2026-03-27T15:15:47.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[193].end |
2026-03-27T15:15:59.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].text |
因為它東邊很熱鬧，西邊的話很冷漠、靠近海邊的地方，就是這條鐵路隔絕在那邊，發展起來完全不一樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[193].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[194].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[194].start |
2026-03-27T15:15:59.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[194].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:17.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].text |
西邊的話，包括苗栗縣一大片的土地，荒置在那邊也都沒有什麼發展，如果這邊把它做起來的話，我相信對西邊的苑裡鄉親的發展機會就比較大，你知道這個嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[194].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[195].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[195].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:17.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[195].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:22.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].text |
報告委員，這我還沒去看過，但是你這樣說是合理，東西邊兩邊要合在一起，但是如果你要做…… |
| transcript.gazette[195].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[196].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[196].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:22.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[196].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:25.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].text |
只有跨站式月台，還有電梯就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[196].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[197].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[197].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:26.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[197].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:27.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].text |
跨站式月台我們可以討論看看…… |
| transcript.gazette[197].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[198].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[198].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:27.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[198].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:33.079000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].text |
不然你那一條沒有雙軌化沒辦法，因為我了解地方大概的情形。 |
| transcript.gazette[198].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[199].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[199].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:34.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[199].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:36.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].text |
不然你就把它繞一圈嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[199].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[200].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[200].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:36.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[200].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:37.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].text |
改變路線也可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[200].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[201].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[201].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:39.827000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[201].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:41.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].text |
沒關係，我來了解一下，看這個要怎樣做。 |
| transcript.gazette[201].quality |
0.562 |
| transcript.gazette[202].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[202].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:41.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[202].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:43.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].text |
好，不然我們專案來了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[202].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[203].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[203].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:43.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[203].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:44.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[203].text |
我們了解一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[203].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[204].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[204].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:43.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[204].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:43.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].text |
這樣好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[204].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[205].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[205].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:44.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[205].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:47.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[205].text |
我拜託你，你英俊又年輕，一定要幫忙。 |
| transcript.gazette[205].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[206].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[206].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:47.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[206].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:48.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[206].text |
好，我來了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[206].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[207].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[207].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:47.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[207].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:54.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].text |
你每次到苗栗縣，我就「皮皮挫」，你去都不是拉給我的票，拉別人的票啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[207].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[208].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[208].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:54.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[208].end |
2026-03-27T15:16:59.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].text |
我這個帳沒有算，用這個來補一補，好不好？是…… |
| transcript.gazette[208].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[209].speaker |
陳委員超明 |
| transcript.gazette[209].start |
2026-03-27T15:16:59.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[209].end |
2026-03-27T15:17:01.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[209].text |
好，我質詢結束了，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[209].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[210].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[210].start |
2026-03-27T15:17:01.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[210].end |
2026-03-27T15:17:01.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].text |
謝謝陳委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[210].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[211].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[211].start |
2026-03-27T15:17:02.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[211].end |
2026-03-27T15:17:09.817571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[211].text |
謝謝陳超明委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長、各相關部會首長備詢，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[211].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[212].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[212].start |
2026-03-27T15:17:10.117571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[212].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[212].end |
2026-03-27T15:17:18.974714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[212].text |
下面的委員質詢完畢之後，將會休息10分鐘，10分鐘之後請張智倫委員準備質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[212].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[213].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[213].start |
2026-03-27T15:17:19.274714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[213].end |
2026-03-27T15:17:23.274714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].text |
接下來我們請邱志偉委員，請質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[213].quality |
0 |