| IVOD_ID |
167927 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167927 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T12:50:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T13:03:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae6efe42a97ba7a9fab86a255e355343ec7d3a61a6651d0c53621313771590f4455ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:50:53 - 13:03:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：討論事項
審查
一、 委員謝衣鳯等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第三十一條條文修正草案」案。
二、 委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
三、 委員徐富癸等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、 委員林月琴等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第十三條條文修正草案」案。
五、 委員李彥秀等21人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
六、 委員陳菁徽等22人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
七、 委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。
八、 委員蘇清泉等30人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
九、 委員李彥秀等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
十、 委員吳秉叡等21人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第十六條條文修正草案」案。
十一、 委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
十二、 委員顏寬恒等22人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第三十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
十三、 委員林月琴等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十八條及第二十八條之一條文修正草案」案。
十四、 委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。
十五、 委員林思銘等20人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
十六、 委員王鴻薇等26人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第四十九條及第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
十七、 委員黃建賓等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
十八、 委員黃建賓等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第八十三條、第一百零七條及第一百零八條條文修正草案」案。
十九、 委員林德福等20人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第六十六條條文修正草案」案。
二十、 委員張雅琳等27人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十一、 委員柯志恩等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第五十一條之一、第九十九條及第一百零二條條文修正草案」案。
二十二、 委員陳冠廷等24人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第四十六條、第四十六條之二及第九十四條條文修正草案」案。
二十三、 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十三條及第三十一條之一條文修正草案」案。
二十四、 委員黃健豪等23人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第六十九條及第一百零三條條文修正草案」案。
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謝謝主席,有請部長有請史部長還有署長社交署署長游委員好部長好部長看一下跟署長看一下,這是2024年的五月新聞 |
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額曉華統一的公告中央網站避免跨縣市超不到這個是衛部在4月底跟各縣市討論後決定要求法定的公告姓名名稱案件一律在中央的聯合國兒童權利公約網站上公告且統一格式避免不一致的問題那各縣市都還想公告中央不會反對沒有錯吧對好沒有錯好那所以現在 |
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民眾都可以在聯絡國的兒童權利公約網站上查詢到各縣市公告違反兒少人員的名字但是部長我們實際點閱進去之後會發現一個問題各縣市公告的公文沒有 |
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然後沒有縣市發出的公文就把人公告到這個系統上去這個有沒有風險的存在會不會有霧燈到時候出問題是要地方政府來負責還是我們會不會負責 |
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這不僅如此啦,在衛福部的系統上,除了公佈姓名還有違反法規外,對事實僅用這種災藥的方式去呈現所以我這邊要提醒部長,也要請部長看這個災藥,你看這兩個案子下一頁看這兩個案子它是發生什麼事情 |
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一個是桃園市,一個是宜蘭,就這張啦,宜蘭縣然後就40災藥,受處不能於公開場合,對兒少不當對待然後,一樣,兩個都寫一樣啦一個是公開場合,一個沒有加公開場合但是像台北市喔,它40災藥是這麼寫委員第幾條?19,第1項,第15款但是,它的委員條文是寫這樣,但是它的40災藥 |
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又只有寫違反失絕條第1項第15款規定不依啦然後他可以點進去可以看到公文前面那兩個看不到公文寫這樣 |
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這一個可以看到公文,但事實在要就是比較上那個表格叫文婉條文的內容的畫條這個怎麼會會怎麼這樣的一個不一致啦這是真的,我覺得這有問題嘛然後有上傳的公文,我們現在幫你查到是這樣有新北、台北、台中、高雄、屏東、台東、金門剩下的通通沒有上傳或是林一新各案上傳有的時候他想傳,有時候他不想傳 |
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所以我想我們當初立法的目的就是要接受這些去傷害未成年的對象在這個系統的營運的模式讓各縣市的來把這樣的資訊傳到這個公約的網站上但是好像操作空間太大了然後不一致也非常的離譜然後甚至還有可以選擇不上傳公文然後在中央的系統裡面把其他人做的事情就寫得非常隱晦模糊 |
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這不對吧所以我們應該立即來檢討像這樣的一個違反兒少法的公佈的一個系統最少要求說柯先生你一定要強制他們要上傳這個公文嘛這最少嘛然後事實在要我是建議是不是要模組化 |
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不是有那個人員他自己寫什麼就寫什麼就寫什麼應該是你模組化之後人員勾選而非填寫然後他會避免他虧待這種事實勾選式的啦對啊對啊對啊下拉選單這樣齁對啦好不好好啊這一個禮拜還要一行嗎 |
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因為現在應該是過去可能是擔心到他的處分書上會有兒少資料啦所以沒有呈現公文啦啊如果沒有的話就沒有問題處分書上面應該都有公文我們讓他可以看得到就好這個我們來改 |
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處分書原本應該就是可以公開嘛對啊對啊應該不會有長擔心的事情我們就把處分書掛上來就可以這件事情我再提醒部長會出來一件事情就是在系統上這個連江線是零離島人員當然是比較少但是你看喔澎湖從2024四月起也登陸五件金門2019到現在也有五月起也都全部案件都有全部上網 |
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年薑到現在沒半個當然沒有最好嘛會不會我們確認一下是真的沒有還是沒有登場來就請部長說完就再深入去了解一下啦好第二件事情我再請教部長啦就是也是有關俄董的這個俄哨權力的問題為運動部歐陸俄視調查我們福林關的竟然是全台第一胖的縣市 |
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同時雲林縣的國小的學生12.15%過重15.99%肥胖近三成的學生體位量紅燈然後根據兒虎聯盟確診調查台灣有五六年級的兒童過重及肥胖率高達30點 |
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這個已經超過全球平均的25%台北市立醫院的和平院區的一個黃主任也特別示警研究顯示回胖兒童有五成的機率在成年後他還是持續回胖回胖青少年有七成的機率也一直回胖到成年就像我助理這樣這些數據 |
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我用實際的例子跟各位講,這個請大家嚴肅來面對這些事情因為我也一直希望他,這個真的,那些人你太重,其實對自己的身體會負荷坦白講,那個是真的,我竟然看他滿頭大汗 |
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有時候有些事情比較緊急的他也會很緊張這其實是不好啦我剛才問大家分享所以我想這個減肥減胖這基本上我覺得這課不容易而且我們是超過全球的25%剛剛提到的數據他如果在額頭的時候 |
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有五成的機率在成年後能是回胖的回胖的七成的機率有七成的機率還是一直回胖到成年嘛對啊這是一個很嚴肅的事情我們到底要如何讓學童的體態可以獲得控制我們現在就這樣叫跳繩啦 多多運動還是辦減重比賽我不曉得還有辦減重比賽可以送手機可以送幾支真的喔這方式正確嗎 |
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我們沒有要批評是說我們把方法大家在這邊做一個討論因為人數這麼多你用這種方式到底整體的效益在什麼地方我們預期想要可以達到這樣的目標降低為全球的這個平均值這樣做的效果可以嗎多久才有效有辦法去達標那顯然顯然是 |
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是有問題的嘛 這第一個 我的看法那個回邦醫學會在舉辦過記者會也公布數據齁臺灣該把百分之八成的民眾已經認知到回邦是一種疾病喔但是實際有曾經接受到專業的醫療評估的僅21.7 |
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所以他也不會去求助醫師來予以協助所以現在肥胖的認知應該不是說少吃多動就會瘦他要瘦的健康是一個專門的學科 |
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對啊 這之前我們講過 我們甚至我們也講過生生長子肥胖的對象我們要怎麼協助他們嘛這個都有討論過但是我們現在只有針對小朋友的部分我們的處理方式就是這樣那這樣的方式坦白講它是會產生什麼樣的一個效應這站在站在健康台灣的立場我是覺得這個是這是不對的啦齁我再講一個啦齁你們有 |
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有所謂有推動這個健康幣嘛,就鼓勵民眾打疫苗、做篩檢、累積點數,對他們好康嘛那這個健康幣的APP,它僅規劃是18歲以上的民眾我們覺得不夠嘛,能不能引領往下降,然後針對這個部分透過積極的衛教的手段,讓學童跟家長認知,才可以真正的健康減重嘛 |
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他來參加衛教可以參與你們健康幣相關的一些獎勵這是不是可以納入在這個思考的範圍就是像委員提到我們這一陣子的瘦瘦身之亂就可以理解到對這個肥胖的控制概念的觀念的扭曲都是靠藥這是不對的其實是七成靠飲食三成靠運動應該是這樣 |
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所以這個觀念如何落實才是難度這個最標準的知易行難所以我們剛剛您提到的這個我們來所以就是像說部長跟署長這個部分就是很怎麼講我們超過全世界的 |
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全球這樣的一個5%我們如何可以透過剛剛部長講的方式就是這個七成的飲食三成的運動還有相關的一些衛教嘛對不對大家是把它當成一個他必須面對的一個疾病來予以處理嘛政府怎麼去獎勵嘛是不是透過我直接講到健康幣啦當然還有很多的方式嘛那我們多久可以低於全球的平均嘛 |
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比如說跟我們說明我們現在TFDA也在做那個食品分級啦健康食品的分級紅黃綠燈也在規劃這個那未來搭配健康幣去連結這個健康食品的型態所以這個就是我們想要把它變成是一個生活的一部分來推啦這個我們來做一個比較完整的規劃 |
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那這個專業就留給部長跟署長看怎麼來處理嘛但是我只要求嘛我們多久的時間可以依照你們的專業的方式方法低於全球的30.2%對不起25%講錯我們是30.2這讓我再規劃一下這要有比較嚴謹的這不可以隨便喊什麼時候啦 |
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不過你講的絕對是嚴謹的啊你說我今天在農莊沒你手你看這樣覺得不夠嚴謹所以我是覺得因為這事情要儘量處理啦因為你要說一年兩年我也不相信但是你就是要有一個不然最起碼怎麼樣規劃可以降低至全球的這個這個這個爬線多久的時間裡面可以研究出來然後提供給委員會做參考你們這樣的方法方案是有用的 |
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我們先來規劃,然後我們三個月給你提一個規劃的方向這個不要三個月啦,好不好,三個月就...這要再找專家學者,不那麼簡單啦沒有啊,你們以前應該有做啊,你們不是現在這麼做的啊你們以前做的就是那些方法不對啊,不好啊,不就繼續廢啊,就是這樣啊所以要再調整啦,要檢討一下過去的做法,然後未來怎麼做這肥胖確實是一個大問題 |
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對啦!兩個月啦!謝謝!謝謝部長!謝謝署長! |