| IVOD_ID |
167923 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167923 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T12:45:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T12:55:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baaeb17b939c393079c12ba03baa58d69313f19eff9622767a8e3a4875bd750b89d65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
呂玉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:45:37 - 12:55:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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我们请李毅民委员咨询 谢谢谢谢主席 请公布长请公布长 谢谢 |
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部长午安已经从早上讲到现在大家关心的议题都在经济跟我们的发电的问题那本期想先请教部长在1月跟2月的时候我们台美之间已经有先签订了台美的投资的MOU还有台美的对等关税贸易的协定的ART这里面特别有提到了就是我们汽车的零组件获得了关税的 |
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最惠國的待遇所以我們產業把這個心都定下來了但是這個ART要來執行的時候這是我們大家很樂觀看待的如果 |
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美國決定不要用ART 而是用這個1930年的關稅法用337條337條裡面講到一個很重要的就是他要對於這個專利侵權啟動這個調查 |
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其中這個調查所以產業界也很擔心所以不知道我們這個經濟部有做好怎麼樣協助產業目前他大概會針對哪些的這個廠商來做這個調查那因為這個337條款出來的時候就是制裁的 |
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它不用給你ART它就用散熱器調管的話那對我們出口值這個會影響多大因為我們這個零組件汽車零組件出口到美國將近佔了50%如果被影響的話整個產業鏈上下產業鏈都會被影響這個衝擊有多大我們這經濟部有做好評估嗎 |
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他這個只有通用公司一家而且是有一些品項不是所有的品項那大概是有10家的公司10家10家公司可是上下的產業鏈會影響啊對我講受到調查的部分對啊如果這調查出來結果對我們不利的話呢你們要做什麼幫忙跟協助我們現在來講的話就是他如果需要 |
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法律上的諮詢 這個我們是一定會幫忙的對 法律的這個資源你會來協助那最重要你要協助他們收集證據來打這個官司 對不對對 就是法律上的協助我們會來協助就是法律上的美國的這個調查是否屬實啊如果萬一啦 萬一被控侵權成立的話那 那一個品項說老實話就是不要出口啦我們開發出真正有這個 |
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有真正的不要侵權不要一下子就放棄你要協助他們搜集資料證據他只有少數的品項而已不是所有的品項這個是對於專利的侵權這專利的問題所以我們還是在協助廠上接下來本席想請問部長在這個ART裡面特別有提到我們美國的進口關稅這個關稅17.5%要逐年下降是不是 |
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欸你說講汽車的部分是嗎對 汽車 汽客進公關稅 幾年內要歸零欸 詳細的好像是ART是有談到嘛 是不是有啊 有啊三年內歸零是不是它是說即刻即刻啦 好像是即刻即刻 就馬上歸零嗎對 好像是確定是逐年還是不是逐年嗎確定答案給我 確定 即刻 |
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應該是即刻等於說今年就歸零了要生效的時候現在還沒有生效什麼時候生效就是跟美國它因為它法律上還是要有一些重建因為它原先的這個原先它是根據IEPAR現在用122條款嘛那現在我們看到裡面的話你們在ART談判的時候你就已經有自動調降這個進口關稅到歸零所以什麼時候開始啟動你們不知道嗎 |
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沒有 這個要立法院通過才可以通過 什麼時候通過 預估立法院 我們要送到立法院 立法院要通過才可以好 就是今年喔這個我們跟美國一樣 要把這個ART裡面的內容確定以後那現在就是還在法律上 還在調整因為在去年談的部分的話是因為一二條款出來的話 全部都 |
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就是沒有這個效益的重新就是10加N了所以現在都是10加N啊所以就不用ART這個就沒有了我們不要有太樂觀的所以你們未來還是繼續談那個ART吧 |
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外來這個150天之後ART如果有更好的結果出來的話我們也要去努力的啦好不好那所以說如果說像這關稅歸零的情形我們要做準備本身在總諮詢的時候也特別有提到我們要保護我們的產業尤其是國產汽車進口的車子美系的車子進來 |
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關稅是歸零喔 那進口車子的話 我們有沒有優勢的競爭力 這就要看我們經濟部來講那一天特別財政部部長就講說 有免徵一些 免徵什麼 兩項舊車換新車五萬 還有一項 也是五萬是什麼 |
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太舊換新五萬 新車是五萬 兩個啊兩千CC以下 兩千CC以下也是五萬所以一百萬的車子大概可以減十萬啦 對不對那這樣子的話大概算起來就只有10%但是部長 我要提醒再提醒這不是只有對國產車 美系車子竟然也是一樣耶所以那有什麼特別優勢的地方呢因為美系車子它單價都很高啦 |
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不會在一百萬以下 通常是兩百萬 大部分是 所以還免關稅了關稅17.5%免掉了 即刻全部免耶只有美國車而已啦只有美國汽車 美國製造的車子才可以美國製造 在美國設廠就叫美國製造日系 韓系 德系的車子在美國設廠製造進來我們這邊就是沒有關稅了因為它是高單價 所以你不要太過於樂觀喔所以在這邊 本席具體的要求 部長 |
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跟財政部那邊共同討論有沒有什麼可以幫助國產車支持國產車能夠讓他們有競爭力那直接關稅17.5%就沒有囉那這個落差太大囉 |
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這17.5%100萬的車子就將近20萬喔跟我們國產車的競爭力我們衝擊會非常大所以請你們要找出一個對策方案出來好不好好那接下來我們講到就是這個中東的情勢 |
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國際的情勢尤其是這個俄烏之戰這麼久了我們所有我們的能源政策防能源的資源上我們都受到很大的衝擊所以物價也都一直高漲所以在此刻物價沒有現在還在百分之二以下 |
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CPRCPR部長你知道現在的雞腿便當一個多少錢嗎?百分之二以下所以不死人間煙火了本期要在這邊提到的就是剛剛前面很多的委員都提到了大家擔心什麼?擔心未來我們的天然氣發電的中油它要承擔還有我們曾董事長也已經站出來台電台電跟中油要共同去吸收這個成本 |
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但是我還要去請問一下我們所有的民眾最擔心的就是電價漲不漲電價會漲嗎電價還是有電價審議委員會我知道你要講電價審議委員會每次問到這就要問電價審議委員會可是台電跟正如的吸收成本的當下你知道台電現在虧損多少嗎 |
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我們給他增資之後政府給他補貼之後他還虧損多少嗎3500億吧 陳董事長是不是你還虧損這麼多嗎 還是更多你可以修正一下你現在虧損多少3500億嘛所以這個漲不漲電價剛剛大家都關心了啦所以你給我明確說不要說除了審議委員會之外 |
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當然你講說不是全面漲當然啦 700度以下的民生用電不會漲嘛可是所有的產業都會影響啊尤其現在我們推廣的這AI產業啦用電又非常高在這點 部長可以給我們什麼保證嗎民眾現在最關心的就是電價漲不漲啊 |
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我可以把委員的意見跟想法轉達給電價審議委員會了解說有這樣的民意有這樣的訴求讓他們知道最重要本期是關心我們台電跟中油叫他們一直吸收成本 |
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雖然說這次的油價漲1.8元台中油吸收多少你知道嗎我知道所以在這一點上我們給多盡量我們就台電跟真無這部分我們還是給他們多一點協助是 省議員委員會這邊你也可以給他們一些建議民眾關心的電價漲不漲好不好好 謝謝 |