| IVOD_ID |
16792 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16792 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,26,22-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-30T08:30:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-30T12:22:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:51:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db271ac346a99ec21c802c785c9e4cb8617f81bba30f51cec22ed89db6c158da6c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：一、繼續審查：
（一）行政院函請審議「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員何欣純等19人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第十二條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第四條、第六條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員羅美玲等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
二、審查本院委員黃捷等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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08:30:27 - 12:22:00 |
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谢谢观看 |
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谢谢观看 |
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谢谢观看 |
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谢谢观看,下次见! |
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MING PAO CANADA MANGA |
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1876.945 |
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谢谢观看 |
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1983.404 |
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響鐘 |
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MING PAO CANADA MANGA |
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字幕志愿者 杨洁 |
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MING PAO CANADA MING PAO TORONTO |
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谢谢大家 |
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谢谢观看,下次见! |
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MING PAO CANADA // MING PAO TORONTO |
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谢谢观看 |
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響鐘 |
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請組密報告出席人數報告聯席會出席委員15人以足法定人數 |
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現在開會進行報告事項請宣讀上次會議議事錄立法院十一屆第三會期經濟社會福利及衛生環境教育及文化三委員會第一次聯席會議事錄時間一百一十四年六月十八日星期三九時十分至三十五時二十一分地點紅樓101會議室出席委員邱益穎等四十人內席委員鍾嘉斌等八人內席人員國家發展委員會主任委員劉靜清經濟部政務次長姜文若等主席蔡昭吉委員亦與討論事項 |
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審查一行政環境審議外國專業人才延攬及雇用法修正草案討論事項合併詢答委員羅美玲說明提案要旨國家發展委員會主任委員劉靜卿報告後委員邱益穎等30人提出質詢經由國家發展委員會主任委員劉靜卿等即席答覆登記發言委員除不在場者外區域均已發言完畢詢答結束委員張家俊陳昭之蘇清泉柯志芬林淑芬邱振均及王玉敏所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報 |
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書面質詢和未及答覆部分 請相關單位於週內以書面答覆並複製本會2.本院委員何欣淳等19人理據外國專業人才延攬及雇用法第12條及第14條條文修正查案3.本院委員陳廷宇等16人理據外國專業人才延攬及雇用法第4條第6條及第14條條文修正查案4.本院委員蔡玉儀等17人理據外國專業人才延攬及雇用法修正查案 |
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請問各位同仁上次會議輸入有錯誤 |
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好沒有的話議事錄確定我們繼續進行討論事項請宣讀討論事項一繼續審查一行政院行情審議外國專業人才延攬及雇用法修正查案二本院委員何欣淳等19人理據外國專業人才延攬及雇用法第12條及第14條條文修正查案三本院委員陳庭英菲等16人理據外國專業人才延攬及雇用法第4條第6條及第14條條文修正查案 |
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本日議程討論四項所列議案 |
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2867.617 |
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經濟社會福利及衛生環境教育及文化三個委員會在6月18日第一次聯席會議中已經詢答完畢那之後院會又交付黃婕委員提案版本我們今日一起並案審查我們先請議事人員宣讀所有條文若有修正動議及附帶決議請一併宣讀宣讀完畢後再進行協商請宣讀 |
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2871.889 |
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2896.046 |
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外国专业人才延揽及雇佣法修正草案行政院提案第一条同现行条文第一条第二条同现行条文第二条第三条同现行条文第三条第四条除第二款具装国防后增加逗号数位等字其余同现行条文第四条第五条第一项第二具修正为除本法另有规定外第五项删除其余同现行条文第五条 |
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2917.677 |
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第6條除第2具修正委或教育部公告世界大學排名前1000名大學之學士以上學位者其餘同線型條文第6條第7條除第2項第3具修正委經內政部移民署許可永久居留者其餘同線型條文第7條第8條同線型條文第8條第9條同線型條文第9條第10條除第1項第2具刪除 |
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不经雇主申请等文字其余同现行条文第十条第十一条外国人于最近五年内取得教育部公告世界大学排名前200名大学之学士以上学位者得进向劳动部申请许可在我国从事专业工作其许可期间最长为二年 |
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且不得延期及重新申請請向外國人經內政部移民署許可居留者其外僑居留證之有效期間自許可之一日起算最長為二年第一項申請之工作資格審查基準申請許可廢止許可 |
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聘雇管理及其他相关事项之办法由劳动部会商主管机关定之第十二条外国人取得我国副学士以上学位者以应届毕业生之身份依法取得内政部移民署许可延期居留期间在我国从事工作得免申请工作许可 |
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3000.505 |
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第13條內容同現行條文第11條第14條外國專業人才以數位方式從事遠端工作非為我國境內事業單位或雇主提供勞務並具備主管機關公告之一定條件者其本能配有未成年子女及因身心障礙無法自理生活之 |
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3025.359 |
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成年子女得向外交部或駐外管處申請核發6個月有效期限多次入國停留期限6個月未加注限制不准延期或其他限制之停留簽證於入國後停留期限屆滿有繼續停留之必要者得於停留期限屆滿前向內政部移民署申請延期 |
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每次延期期間不得逾六個月並得免出國每次總停留期間最長為二年第15條外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才之配偶 |
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3038.924 |
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3059.319 |
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經內政部移民署許可在我國依親居留者得進向勞動部申請許可在我國從事工作該工作許可期間不得預期依親居留期間外國專業人才在我國從事專業工作外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才經內政部移民署 |
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3076.29 |
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許可永久居留者及成年子女經內政部移民署認定符合下列要件之一得盡向勞動部申請許可在我國從事工作一曾在我國合法累計居留10年每年居住270日以上二未滿14歲入國 |
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3105.27 |
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每年居住270日以上三在我国出生曾在我国合法累计居留10年每年居住183日以上雇主聘雇前二项配偶及成年子女从事工作得不受就业服务法第46条第1项第3项第47条第52条第53条第3项第4项第57条第5款第72条第4款及第74条规定之限制 |
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3130.2 |
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並免依第55條規定繳納就業安定費第二項外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才之子女於中華民國112年1月1日前未滿16歲入國者得適用該項規定不受該項第二款有關未滿14歲入國之限制第16條除第二項第二具修正為 |
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经内政部移民署许可拘留或永久拘留者并删除第三项至第五项其余同现行条文第十二条第十七条除第一项第四具修正为其本能及原经内政部移民署许可拘留之配偶未成年子女与因身心障碍无法自理生活之成年子女其余同现行条文第十三条第十八条第一项同现行条文第十四条第一项 |
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3158.419 |
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3187.706 |
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第二項以下列各款情形之一為居留原因而經內政部移民署許可在我國居留之期間不記錄前項在我國連續居留期間一在我國就學二一入出國籍移民法第23條第1項第3款第26條第1款第2款第31條第4項第5款至第8款規定經許可居留三經許可在我國從事就業服務法第46條第1項第8款至第10款工作 |
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3217.823 |
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是以前三款人員為依親對象經許可居留外國特定專業人才因依第八條第一項規定取得特定專業人才工作許可或依第九條規定取得就業金卡而在我國居留並符合第一項各款要件者有下列情形之一得向內政部移民署申請永久居留一在我國合法連續居留三年平均每年居住183日以上二符合內政部公告之一定條件者 |
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3235.045 |
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在我国合法居留一年且居住183日以上外国专业人才及外国特定专业人才在我国就学取得大专校院副学士以上学位者得意下列规定折抵第一项及前项之在我国居留期间 |
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3235.816 |
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3250.713 |
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一 外国专业人才取得博士学位者折抵二年硕士学士或副学士学位者折抵一年四者不得合并折抵二 外国特定专业人才取得博士学位者折抵二年硕士学位者 |
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3251.604 |
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3271.285 |
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折抵一年二者不得合併折抵依第一項及第三項規定申請永久居留者應於居留及居住期間屆滿後二年內申請之第一項第二款及第十九條第一項第一款鎖定無不良素行之認定程序及其他相關事項之標準由內政部定之 |
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3272.813 |
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3284.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
第19條除第二項修正為外國特定專業人才經內政部移民署許可永久居留後其配偶未成年子女及因身心障礙無法自理生活之成年子女 |
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3308.182 |
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并符合前项各款要件者有下列情形之一,得向内政部移民署申请永久居留一,一清对象为一前条第三项第一款规定,经许可永久居留者在我国合法连续居留三年,每年居住183日以上二,一清对象为一前条第三项第二款规定,经许可永久居留者 |
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3333.771 |
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在我国合法居留一年且居住183日以上其余同现行条文第16条现行条文第17条删除第20条第一项第三具修正为于入国后停留期限届满有继续停留之必要者其余文字同现行条文第18条增订第二项前项直系遵清属停留期间届满 |
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3334.332 |
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3352.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
有繼續停留之必要且以投保在我國停留期間之醫療及全額住院保險者得於停留期間屆滿前項內政部移民署申請延期並得免出國不受前項每次總停留期間最長為一年之限制第21條同線型條文第19條第22條同線型條文第20條第23條同線型條文第21條第24條從事 |
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3360.905 |
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3384.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
专业工作至外国专业人才及外国特定专业人才适用劳工退休金条例之退休金制度但其于本法中华民国全年全月全日修正之条文施行前已受雇前能服务于同一事业单位于修正施行之日起六个月内已书面向雇主表明继续适用劳动基准法之退休金规定者不在此限 |
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3385.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
陳依前向但書規定向僱主表明繼續適用勞動基準法之退休金規定者不得再變更選擇適用勞工退休金條例之退休金制度依第一項規定適用勞工退休金條例退休金制度者其適用前之工作年之依該條例第十一條規定辦理 |
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3408.874 |
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3437.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
雇主因為適用勞工退休金條例退休金制度之外國專業人才及外國特定專業人才向勞動部勞工保險局辦理提繳手續對於第一項代書鎖定期間屆滿未表明繼續適用勞動基準法之退休金規定者雇主致詞應於該期間屆滿之日起15日內申報第一項外國專業人才及外國特定專業人才於本法中華民國全年全月全日修正之條文 |
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3437.614 |
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3464.994 |
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施行前已适用劳工退休金条例或以依法向雇主表明继续适用劳动基准法之退休金制度者人依各该规定办理不适用前四项规定本法中华民国全年全日修正之条文施行时尚未依修正施行前第一项但书规定或依劳工退休金条例第八条之一第二项规定向雇主表明继续适用劳动基准法之退休金规定 |
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3466.014 |
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3481.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
寫前開規定之表明期間尚未屆滿者能得於修正施行之日起六個月內向僱主表明之藉其為表明者僱主應溯及自其取得永久居留許可之日起為其提繳退休金 |
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3482.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3495.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
第25條外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才受雇在我國從事工作並經內政部移民署許可永久居留者除本法另有規定外適用就業保險法之規定 |
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3496.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3517.027 |
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前項人員於受雇後是經內政部移民署許可永久居留者其雇主應於許可永久居留之日為其申報參加就業保險第一項人員於本法中華民國全年全月全日修正之條文施行前已取得永久居留許可且於修正施行時仍繼續受雇者 |
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3517.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3540.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
其雇主應於修正實行之日為其申報參加就業保險一及二項規定申報參加就業保險者其保險效力之開始均自雇主應為申報之當日起算雇主非於應為申報之當日為其申報參加就業保險者除於就業保險法第38條規定處罰外 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
3542.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
3560.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
其保险效力之开始均自申报之一日起算以一前四项规定参加就业保险者于勤领失业给付或职业训练生活津贴期间在我国境内有符合就业保险法第十九条之一第二项规定之受抚养眷属者 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
3561.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
3575.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
得依該條第一項規定加給給付或津貼以依第一項至第四項規定參加就業保險而經內政部以民屬撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者喪失領受就業保險相關給付之權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
3576.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3594.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
但因回復我國國籍取得我國國籍或兼具我國國籍而遭撤銷或廢止永久居留許可者不在此限第一項人員於本法中華民國《全年全月全日修正之條文》實行前已適用就業保險法則不適用前六項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
3596.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
3608.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
第26條外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才受聘僱擔任我國工業學校現職編制內專任合格有幾支教師與研究人員及政府機關與其所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
3611.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3634.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
學術研究機關構限職編制內專任合格有幾支研究人員其退休事項準用公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例且經內政部移民署許可永久居留者得擇依支領一次退休金或月退休金準用公立學校教職員個人專戶制退休之前撫恤條例者依該條例規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
3637.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
3654.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
以依前項規定準用公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例且支領月退休金而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者喪失領受月退休金之權利但因回復我國國籍取得我國國籍或兼具我國國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
3654.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3683.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
而遭撤銷或廢止永久居留許可者不在此限第二十七條外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才受聘僱擔任我國科學園區之公立實驗高級中等學校雙語部限職編制內專任合格有僅是教師其退休之前撫恤及離職退費事項準用公立學校教師規定依前項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
3685.045 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
3708.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
准用公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例且經內政部移民署許可永久居留者得擇依資領一次退休金或月退休金其選擇資領月退休金而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者喪失領受月退休金之權利但因回復我國國籍取得我國國籍或兼具我國國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
3708.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
3724.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
而遭撤銷或廢止永久居留許可者不在此限第28條外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才其本能配偶未成年子女及因身心障礙無法自理生活之成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
3724.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3742.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
经内政部移民署许可永久居留并合法累计居留10年每年居住183日以上其身体系统构造或功能有损伤或不全导致显著偏离或丧失影响其活动与参与社会生活的得向 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
3743.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3771.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
直轄市縣市政府提出身心障礙鑑定及需求評估之申請經身心障礙者權益保障法第五條所定之專業團隊依該法第六條及第七條規定鑑定及評估之結果符合該法規定者准用身心障礙者權益保障法第五十條第五十一條規定提供其所需之服務以下列個管情形之一為拘留原因而經內政部移民署許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
3772.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3776.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
在我國居留之期間不記錄前項在我國累計居留期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3777.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3805.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
一在我國就學二一入出國籍移民法第23條第一項第三款第二十六條第一款第二款第三十一條第四項第五款至第八款規定經許可居留三以前二款人員為一親對象經許可居留以符合第一項規定而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者其准用身心障礙者權益保障法第五十條第五十一條規定提供之服務應與終止 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
3806.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3834.814 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
但因回復我國國籍取得我國國籍或兼具我國國籍而遭撤銷或廢止永久居留許可者不在此限第一項之申請程序應檢附文件及其他相關事項之辦法由衛生福利部會商相關機關定之第29條外國專業人才外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才其本人配有未成年子女及因身心障礙無法自理生活之成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
3835.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3856.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
經內政部移民署許可永久居留並合法累計居留10年每年居住183日以上因身心失能且符合下列資格之一者得向長期照顧管理中心或直轄市縣市政府提出申請經依長期照顧服務法第8條及第8條之一評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
3856.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3885.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
任符合给付长期照顾服务之失能情形按其失能程度核定长期照顾需要等级及长期照顾服务给付额度后准用依该法第八条之一第四项锁定办法提供服务一65岁以上二经身心障碍者权益保障法第五条锁定之专业团队依该法第六条及第七条规定鉴定及评估之结果符合该法规定 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
3886.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3911.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
以下列各款情形之一為居留原因而經內政部移民署許可在我國居留之期間不記錄前項在我國累計居留期間一在我國就學二一入出國籍移民法第23條第1項第3款第26條第1款第2款第31條第4項第5款至第8款規定經許可居留三以前2款人員為依侵對象經許可居留 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
3912.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3932.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
以符合第一項規定而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者其准用依長期照顧服務法第八條之一第四項鎖定辦法提供之服務應與終止但應回復我國國籍取得我國國籍或兼具我國國籍而遭撤銷或廢止永久居留許可者不在此限 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
3933.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3954.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第一項之申請程序應檢附文件提供服務內容及其他相關事項辦法由衛生福利部會商相關機關定之第三十條香港或澳門居民在台灣地區從事專業工作或尋職準用第五條至第六條第七條第一項第八條至第十三條第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
3955.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
第22條至第24條及第27條第一項規定有關入境停留及居留等事項由內政部依香港澳門關係條例及其相關規定辦理前向香港或澳門居民之外國及配偶未成年子女及因身心障礙無法自理生活之成年子女準用第8條第二項第16條第二項第17條及第23條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
3983.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
4011.928 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
第31條我國國民兼具外國國籍而未在我國設有戶籍並符合下列情形之一者在我國從事工作得免申請工作許可一外國人規劃取得我國國籍二一入出國籍移民法第九條第一項第一款或第四款經內政部移民署許可居留且其父或母現為或曾為居住台灣地區設有戶籍國民我國國民兼具外國國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
4012.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
4037.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
而未在我國設有戶籍 除前項規定外此外國護照 致我國從事專業工作或尋職者依本法有關外國專業人才之規定辦理第32條 外國專業人才 外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才 經規劃取得我國國籍者其配偶子女及職系尊親屬準用第8條 第2項 第15條 第16條 第2項 第17條 第19條 至第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
4042.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
4049.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
及入出國及移民法第25條第5項規定第33條本法施行日期由行政院定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
4051.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
4076.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
委員何新淳等19人提案第12條除第二項第二句修正為經許可居留或永久居留者其餘同行政院提案第16條第14條除第4項修正為外國專業人才及外國特定專業人才在我國就學取得大學校院學士以上學位者得以下列規定折抵第一項及前項之在我國連續居留期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
4077.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
4098.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
1.外国专业人才取得博士学位者折抵二年,硕士学位者折抵一年,以上各学位不得合并折抵。2.外国特定专业人才取得博士学位者折抵二年,硕士学位者折抵一年,二者不得合并折抵。其文字同线形条文第14条。委员陈廷飞等16人提案第4条。 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
4100.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
4128.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
除增訂第四款第六目其他因應產業發展有聘僱外國人之必要經勞動部專案核定之工作其餘同行政院提案第六條同行政院提案第十四條除第四項續文墨據修正為得依下列規定折抵第一項及前項之在我國連續拘留期間第六項手續中條次修正為第十六條其餘同行政院提案第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
4129.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
4151.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
委員蔡依予等17輪提案第一條同行政院提案第二條同行政院提案第三條同行政院提案第四條同行政院提案第五條同行政院提案第六條同行政院提案第七條同行政院提案第八條同行政院提案第九條同行政院提案第十條同行政院提案第十一條除第一項目據修正為且不得延期 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
4151.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
4168.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
并删除第三项其余同行证院提案第十二条同行证院提案第十三条同行证院提案第十四条同行证院提案第十五条同行证院提案第十六条同行证院提案第十七条同行证院提案第十八条第四项续文末据修正为 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
4169.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
4197.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
則依下列規定折抵第一項及前項之在我國連續居留期間第六項刪除其餘同行政院提案第十九條除第二項第一具首具修正為依親對象為依第十八條第三項第一款規定經許可永久居留者第二款首具修正為依親對象為依第十八條第三項第二款規定經許可永久居留者其餘同行政院提案現行條文第十七條刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
4199.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
4225.429 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
第20條除第二項前三句修正為前項直系尊卿署停留期間屆滿一年並以投保在我國停留期間至醫療及全額住院保險且有繼續停留之必要者得於停留期限屆滿前其與同行政院提案第21條同行政院提案第22條除第一項句中薪資所得修正為超過新台幣200萬元其與同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
4226.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
4249.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
第23條同行政院提案第24條第一項倒數第三具修正為於本法修正施行之日起六個月內其餘同行政院提案第一項第二項及第三項同行政院提案第四項同現行條文第五項同行政院提案第六項修正為依本法中華民國全年全月全日修正之條文施行前之第一項但書規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
4250.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
4271.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
或依勞工退休金條例第八條之一第二項規定得向僱主表明繼續適用勞動基準法之退休金規定而尚未表明者能得於本法修正施行之日起六個月內向僱主表明之藉其未表明者其提繳退休金 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
4272.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
4288.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
述及自永久居留許可之日起生效第25條第一項及第二項同行政院提案第一項及第二項第三項修正為第一項人員於本法中華民國全年全月全日修正施行前已取得永久居留且繼續受護者 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
4289.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
4308.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
其雇主因于本法修正施行之当日为其申报参加就业保险第四项第三四据修正为均自因为申报之当日起算但其雇主非于因为申报之当日为其申报参加就业保险者其余同行政院提案第四项 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
4308.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
4323.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
第五項同行政院提案第五項第六項手續修正為以依第一項至第四項規定參加就業保險者其餘同行政院提案第六項第七項同行政院提案第七項第二十六條第一項第三句 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
4323.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
4351.392 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
修正為其退休事項準用公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例以下簡稱退撫條例之退休規定且經內政部移民署許可永久居留者其與同行政院提案第二項首具修正為以一前項規定準用退撫條例且之領月退休金而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者其與同行政院提案第二項第27條 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
4353.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
4377.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
除第二項首具修正為依前項規定準用退府條例且經內政部移民署許可永久居留者其餘同行政院提案第28條第一項倒數第4具其修正為經身心障礙者權益保障法第5條鎖定之專業團隊鑑定及評估符合該法相關規定者準用身心障礙者權益保障法第50條第51條及其相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
4380.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
4394.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
使用相关服务其余同行政院提案第一项第二项同行政院提案第二项第三项前段修正文已取得第一项资格经济政部移民署撤销或被指其永久居留许可者 |
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4395.655 |
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中止准用身心障碍者权益保障法第50条第51条及其相关规定所提供之服务之权利其余同行政院提案第三项第四项手续修正为第一项之服务内容申请程序应检护文件及其他相关事项 |
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其餘同行政院提案第四項第29條第一項續文後段修正為每年居住183日以上者因身心失能且符合下列資格之一者準用長期照顧服務法第八條之一第四項規定所提供之服務第二款修正為精深心障礙者權益保障法第五條所定之專業團隊鑑定及評估符合該法相關規定者其餘同行政院提案第一項 |
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第二項同行政院提案第二項第三項前段修正為已取得第一項資格而經內政部移民署撤銷或廢止其永久居留許可者終止 |
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準用長期照顧服務法第八條之一第四項規定所提供服務之權利其餘同行政院提案第三項第四項首具修正為第一項之服務內容申請程序應檢附文件及其他相關事項其餘同行政院提案第四項第30條同行政院提案第31條同行政院提案第32條除第二具修正為其配偶子女 |
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及直系尊卿署準用第8條第2項第15條至第17條第19條致電21條第33條同行政院提案 |
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委員盧美玲等16人提案第一條同行政院提案第二條同行政院提案第三條同行政院提案第四條除第二款修正為外國特定專業人才指外國專業人才具有中央目的事業主管機關公告之我國所需經主管機關會商相關中央目的事業主管機關認定具有特殊專長者其餘同行政院提案 |
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第五條同行政院提案第六條處第二句修正為或教育部公告世界大學排名前一千名大學及特殊專業優勢學院之學士以上學位者其餘同行政院提案第七條同行政院提案第八條同行政院提案第九條第一項倒數第二句增訂並查核申請人是否有入出國籍移民法 |
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其他法律或主管机关公告之限制入境管制出入国等情形其余同行政院提案第十条同行政院提案第十一条删除第三项其余同行政院提案第十二条同行政院提案第十三条同行政院提案第十四条一句中停留期限届满有继续停留之必要者 |
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後增訂且以投保國內設有聯絡點保險公司的醫療及住院保險證明保險額度應至少涵蓋新台幣100萬元以上以確保重大醫療費用 |
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能獲充分保障符合一般高額醫療支出需求其餘同行政院提案第15條同行政院提案第16條同行政院提案第17條同行政院提案第18條同委員蔡易宇等人提案第19條同委員蔡易宇等人提案 |
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現行條文第17條刪除第20條第一項後段增訂前項則是以尊卿署停留期間屆滿一年且以投保國內設有聯絡點保險公司的醫療及住院保險並確有繼續停留之必要者得於停留期限屆滿前向內政部移民署申請延期 |
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且得免出國不受每次總停留期間最長一年之限制其餘文字同行政院提案第一項第二項醫療及住院保險額度應至少涵蓋新台幣100萬元以上 |
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以確保重大醫療費用能夠充分保障符合一般高額醫療支出需求第二十一條同行政院提案第二十二條同行政院提案第二十三條同行政院提案第二十四條同委員參與等提案第二十五條同委員參與等提案第二十六條除第一項第三具修正為其退休是向準用公立學校教職員退休之前撫恤條例之退休規定 |
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委員黃婕等16人提案第一條同行政院提案第二條同行政院提案第三條同行政院提案第四條同行政院提案第五條同行政院提案第六條除第二三據修正為或教育部公告世界參考國際主要大學排名系統特定專業領域排名或考量國家重點發展產業所需認定相當於世界排名前1000名大學之學士以上學位者 |
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其余同行政院提案第七条同行政院提案第八条同行政院提案第九条同行政院提案第十条同行政院提案 |
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第十一條第一項前段修正為外國人於最近五年內取得教育部公告參考國際主要大學排名系統特定專業領域排名不考量國家重點發展產業所需認定相當於世界排名前200名大學之學士以上學位者其餘同行政院提案第十二條同行政院提案第十三條同行政院提案第十四條同行政院提案第十五條同行政院提案第十六條同行政院提案第十七條第一項第四具修正為 |
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其本人及原金内政部移民署许可居留之配偶未成年子女及因身心障碍无法自理生活之成年子女其余同行政院提案第18条第二项第四款修正为依前二款人员为依亲对象经许可居留第四项续文目据修正为得依下列规定折抵第一项及前项之在我国连续居留期间第一款第二据修正为硕士学士及副学士学位者折抵一年 |
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其餘同行政院提案第19條同行政院提案 |
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现行条文第十七条删除第二十条第二项目据修正为不受前项美总停留期间最长为一年之限制其余同行政院提案第二十一条同行政院提案第二十二条同行政院提案第二十三条同行政院提案第二十四条除第四项目据修正为雇主致死应于该期间届满之次日起十五日内申报其余同行政院提案第二十五条同行政院提案第二十六条同行政院提案 |
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第27條同行政院提案 第28條同行政院提案 第29條除第一項序文目據修正為準用依該法第8條之一第4項所定辦法提供其所需之服務第二款目增加者字其餘同行政院提案第30條同行政院提案 第31條同行政院提案 第32條同行政院提案 第33條同行政院提案 |
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委員賴瑞榮等人所提修正動議第4條第二款外國特定專業人才指外國專業人才具有中央目的事業主管機關公告之我國所需科技數位經濟教育文化藝術體育金融法律建築設計國防及其他領域之特殊專長或經主管機關會商相關中央目的事業主管機關認定具有特殊專長者 |
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其餘同行政院提案第6條外國人取得國內外大學之碩士以上學位或列入教育部外國大學參考名冊之大學校院之學士以上學位者受聘僱在我國從事就業服務法第46條第一項第一款專門性或技術性工作 |
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除應取得職業資格符合一定職業方式及條件符合法定薪資標準者及應符合專目的事業主管機關所定之法令規定外無需具備一定期間工作經驗 |
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第十一條外國人於最近五年內取得教育部公告世界大學排名前五百名大學之學士以上學位者的競向勞動部申請許可在我國從事專業工作期許可期間最長為二年且不得延期及重新申請其與同行政院提案 |
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第15條外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才之配偶經濟政部移民署許可在我國依親居留者得於居留期間內進向勞動部申請工作許可其餘同行政院提案第18條這是第幾項 |
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第十八條第四項第二款外國特定專業人才取得博士學位者折抵二年碩士學位者折抵一年六個月具有多種學位者僅得折一折抵求與同行政院提案 |
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委員您耐話等所提修正動議修正第四條第一項第四款第四五目四 交易部核定設立遭受外國專業人才 外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才子女專班之外國語文 |
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以外之学科教师及公司立高级中等以下学校双语教育所聘请依其专长任教语言及语言以外之非学科并协助相关教学及教师研习培训之教师之教师 |
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5090.533 |
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第五幕學校型態實驗教育實施條例公立高級中等以下學校委託私人辦理實驗教育條例及高級中等以下教育階段非學校型態實驗教育實施條例所定學科外國語文課程教學師資養成課程研發及活動推廣工作 |
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其餘同行政院提案委員劉建國等所提修正動議第四條第二款外國特定專業人才指外國專業人才具有重要目的事業主管機關功耗至我國所需科技教育經濟教育文化藝術 |
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5144.52 |
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運動金融法律建築設計國防數位環境及其他領域之特殊專長或經主管機關會商相關中央目的事業主管機關認定具有特殊專長者其餘同行政院提案宣讀完畢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
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好現在所有條文跟修正動議都已經宣讀完畢我們現在進行協商來請大家可以看協商的對照條文那我們就直接來協商來我們先處理第一條那第一條呢 |
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對他所有的委員的提案跟行政院的版本都相同那我們第一條的處理是不是既然都版本都一樣的話我們是不是就依行政院的提案條文通過好沒有意見的話就按行政院條文通過好 |
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那處理第二條那第二條也是有每一個委員的版本跟行政院的修正版本相同那我們是不是也依照行政院提案條文通過好那就依行政院條文通過那現在處理第三條那第三條一樣每一位委員的提案跟行政院的版本相同那是不是我們也是依照行政院的提案條文來通過好 |
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好那我們現在來處理第4條那第4條呢有林戴華委員賴瑞榮委員劉建國委員的修正動議那以及 |
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陳廷飛委員的版本跟行政院是不一致的那我們是不是請各委員好 來 賴瑞隆委員發言好 謝謝第四條的部分主要我是加入了因為裡面其實當然有提到數位啦齁那我認為其實特別是外國特定人才裡面其實數位是未來一個重要的趨勢那我是建議這個的部分可以往前放來強化我們對於數位這一塊的重視啦齁 |
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科技數位這樣的一個重視那另外趁這個機會也提一下我的整個修正裡面除要也是希望能夠做更多的一些放寬那特別是在於前一千大其實我希望能夠至少放到一千五放寬到一千五那其他的部分也希望包括國發會包括經濟部也整體來思考我們整體思考再做更多的放寬來吸引國際的優秀人才來到台灣以上說明 |
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| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
5308.998 |
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好 那劉建國委員 完這個林大華委員好 謝謝主席我想我在第二項這個部分是特別把體育改為運動因為我們台灣政府的主改在9月9號就要把這個體育署改為運動部 |
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然後運動也有相關的這些科系包括健康運動師的培訓等等等所以也配合健康台灣全民運動的精神所以我們不只是招人體育的菁英還有更多相關運動涵蓋的這些人才都可以投入到台灣的產業的發展當中這是第一項所以我把體育改為運動然後第二個是 |
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也增列這個環境最主要是隨著這個全球的減碳及環保相關意識抬頭那宿命而生的是所謂的綠領人才環境部也在相關的報告特別提出 |
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去年全台將近3600家的企業釋出所謂的綠林職缺平均每月需求已經高達2.2萬人才的缺口還直追AI產業的2.9萬人所以我們是預估台灣未來5年的綠林職缺將有1到3倍的這樣的 |
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的成長空間所以環境部現在也積極的在推動相關的綠人才培育所以我才在這邊提出在修正動力從增加這個環境的利益然後把體育改為運動以上跟各位委員說明 謝謝好 謝謝牛建國委員那下一位是不是林黛華委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
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我針對我們引進的外籍教師應該能夠在公私立的高中職以下能夠教授非學科的課程而且我特別宰名叫做非學科我們外籍的英文老師要可以在非學科在體育美術音樂家政 |
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城市設計或者是設計相關的課程當中能夠教授英文第二個這樣的外籍英文教師在非學科生教授他不是獨立運作他一定要 |
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本國的老師來做協同教學而且事先的備課所以他不會單獨為之而希望藉著我們國家已經花了工資源前瞻計畫當中的預算百分百的支持這樣的一個外籍教師的整個所有的薪資那希望他能夠把他的利用能夠他的專業能夠最大化 |
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而不是僅僅在英語課程來教授而已第三在我們的雙語國家的這個目標我相信教育部也不敢講得很清楚為什麼在我個人認為在雙語國家的目標之下真的要達到的是我們本國老師有全美語的教授能力 |
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聽好是本國老師要有全美語的教授能力所以這個外籍老師的聘用他會是個過渡期而這個過渡期他會多久呢我當然希望那就要看本國老師提升的職能如何以及第三個教育部是真的在扼殺英國 |
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本國學生學習英文能力的最大殺手因為剛才他們的說法是因為在我們的這個教學現場當中我們英語弱勢的學生可能因為這樣外籍老師的導入之後英語弱勢英語學習的學生會更弱你覺得這樣的論點 |
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聽起來不會有矛盾嗎那到底教育部對於弱勢英文學生或者對弱勢英文弱勢學習能力較弱的學生你做了什麼事情請提供出來我林黛華本席會告訴你怎麼做 |
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在針對弱勢英文學習能力的部分你要導入以下第一個叫做減量教學把學生教會而不是把課程趕完這個叫做操作型的教學只有在一堂課當中分組的教材 |
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同一班內你的學習程度就不一樣所以你只有靠著減量教學把學生教會而把課程趕完教育部你敢不敢做如果你要你再跟我本席強調說弱勢英文能力的部分是因為外國老師的導入而會讓弱勢的英文學習能力的學生更弱 |
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那第一個你一定要全面導入我們的減量教學第二個 |
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全國 全國都進行這個英語能力的評測聽好 不要給我斷章啟語這樣的英文評測不對學校不對老師做評鑑這樣的評鑑完全只是給我們教學現場的老師明白他的這樣的教學方法我們學生的進步程度如何 |
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所以而且要分兩次一個叫做學期前的時候就要來做這樣的英文能力的測驗在學期後也做這樣的測驗而且是不用告知的不用準備的因為根本在學校跟老師完全沒有任何的負擔情況之下不會被苛責的情況之下然後就能夠來這樣的做這樣評鑑 |
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再來我再要求教育部這個第四個以每一個鄉鎮在直轄市當中以每一個行政區在非直轄市的縣市以每一個鄉鎮市為一個行政單位做一個團體做英語教師的工作坊 |
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而實質的讓每一個鄉鎮市或者一個行政區在直轄市當中行政區當中的每一個就成為一個團隊我這個鄉鎮裡面有六個國小這六個國小甚至國中高中有六所的國公高中他就是一個英文老師包括主責的英文的業務的主任形成的一個教學團體 |
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這樣來落實我們每一個到底你誇了前瞻計畫每年四五億以上到底評效如何我現在講的這幾點請教育部直接告訴我這樣能不能去拯救你所謂擔心的外語能力導入我教學現場之後能不能把所謂英文學習弱勢的學生把他救起來 |
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如果你認為本席剛才本席提出的這個四個教學現場的方法不夠好那請教育部你也提出你的對應方案而且就在此時此刻的法案審查當中或者你就是不負責任或者你就是在教育部就是在扼殺所有我公立學校英語學習的教育平權的一個憲法的一個受教的一個權利以上 謝謝 |
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好那現在因為剛剛有賴瑞榮委員 劉建國委員跟林黛華委員都有針對第四條提出修正的一些意見那是不是我們請相關部會就剛剛的意見那我們來來部會來做一個說明那以及你們對於這個條文本身你們的看法那來一併說明相關部會都依序說明 |
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主席還有各位委員非常謝謝剛剛賴瑞榮委員跟劉濟孔委員的對於這個專業領域的建議修正動議那我們覺得這個是蠻能凸顯現在我們所需要的一些重點產業領域所以我們尊重委員的修正動議有關於林委員的提案我們是不是可以麻煩教育部來做說明謝謝好那教育部來說明 |
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首先谢谢委员对我们双语教学现场的关切那有关这个委员想要开放国中小公司立学校非主科的科目由外师来协同教学那这个部分主要是想要第一个就是说这跟于我们现在学科没有开放 |
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的這個政策有益啦那是不是可以讓我們先保留然後我們先跟相關的教師團體先溝通取得共識來 謝一鳳委員不好意思啊 那個是國際國際教育師的代理副市長嗎 |
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我想請教一下就是說現在目前你說不能開放的理由是什麼那因為呃剛才林委員他所說的就是呃只是在協助教學而不是取代就是我們的學科教育嗎他是協助 |
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就是說輔助教學那這對於就是說非六度以外的公立學校那是否有足夠的外資因為也不一定是每個學校都會有這樣子協同教學的這個 |
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一定是在於對於外語教學有特別的就是說每個學校都有特色教學那現在公立學校只有在特色教學的時候才有可能就是導入這種協同就是協同教 |
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就是教外語協同的老師那這對於這為什麼跟今天的外國專業人才延攬及雇用法有相關的一個關係就是我們在希望國際的人才來的時候未來台灣的整體的環境一定要增加外語能力的就是就業人口嘛 |
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那這個對於一些偏鄉以及非六都以外的學生來說這也是尤為重要尤其是現在六都的尤其是六都現在的他們的外語能力 |
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都優於偏鄉的這樣子一個情況下那未來怎麼樣子協助就是非六都以外的各縣市的學生都能夠擁有這樣子的外語能力我相信這一條一定是需要說大家共同去溝通 |
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她所說的並不是由外語取代我們的學科喔而是協助學科的輔助教育我沒有弄錯這個條文的內容吧 |
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就這個部分我認為是不是應該要就這個部分教育部一定要提出相關的說法然後讓我們了解因為畢竟就是說非六都以外的這些公立學校相關的教育資源的確沒有像都會型的學校這麼好是 謝謝委員那是不是可以容許我再說好 先回答 |
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那那個過去沒有開放的理由是因為我們的國民就是國中小以下教育必須還是屬於國民教育的一環那主要還是以我國教師為主然後他們熟悉我們的課綱的內涵跟授課的方式那所以過去是有這樣子的政策就是不開放所有外籍教師來教授我們的學科科目 |
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那但是委員現在的調整呢就會涉及到我們現在政策的改變所以我們是非常希望說是不是可以讓我們先跟相關的教師團體先來溝通請你看那個林戴華委員的修正條文他並不是說 |
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要開放外師來教授學科他的文字是寫說這個任教語言及語言之外之非學科並協助相關教學及教師研習培訓之教師之 |
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報告主席那還是學科只是他不是主要的科目就是體育啊什麼那些還是科對這就是非學科啊所謂非學科學科就是國英數不是英國文數學歷史自然這叫做學科啊那非學科的部分才叫做這個藝術科我還沒講說那數科乾脆我講數科算了 |
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我直接講數科 只是我不曉得到國中的時候 高中的時候你的餐飲家政是不是屬於數科如果是在小學的話 數科是很明確的就是音樂 藝術 然後包括城市設計跟設計等你城市設計一定是要用外語啊那你的有關設計的課程也是會用到外語啊 |
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這個為什麼幫我拿掉了那個教育部你們在幫我修的時候這個新的版本音樂藝術餐飲家政體育城市設計還有設計委員在我們相關的那個定義裡面這些都還是屬於學科沒有這樣子的區分那什麼叫數科那你告訴我這些叫做什麼科 |
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那我可以直接正面表列啊我也不用飛學科了如果用正面表列啊像學程式設計的話它幾乎都是要用英語的啊它是一個在英語的環境的一個數科那如果類似這樣的數科我們用外資來教學那教育部認為這件事還需要研議的原因是什麼 |
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還有我要講光是我們一個投球我在Basketball裡面的投球的頭髮這樣的一個投球跟我在排球的投球就不一樣躲避球的投球中文都一樣他們在這三個體育課三個不同當中就不一樣 |
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那你不投入這個情境你怎麼教小朋友你教一個英文課的英文老師他那麼厲害他能夠學而且我講明的雙語教學真的要達到的是我剛才講的全美我們的本國老師可以有全美語授課的能力所以我們必須借助這樣的外籍老師讓本國老師一起提升他的職能到底什麼時候會落實也請你們敢不敢做評鑑 |
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第二個我要報告的是一定要做到雙語的課綱藉著外籍老師的導入建立起我們的各科目的課綱你敢不敢做你們不敢做你們全部叫做怠惰 |
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真的你們什麼都不做你們真的有做到你們只知道編錢然後分配就做這兩件事情而已然後審查然後去篩掉不符合 去篩掉一些人家努力的一些國中小像我臨源高中你為什麼他的實驗學他的英語實驗已經做了那麼久你為什麼今天給我刪掉他我們一個偏鄉工業區的一個鄉鎮你們只會做這種事而已嘛 |
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那你有沒有敢評鑑他們來 待會委員是不是讓他們有時間來充分回應那等一下是不是讓陳婷菲委員跟邱志文委員講我在補充一下他講到弱勢因為我們這邊所有即使是直轄市因為我們來自縣區我們的縣區就等同非直轄市的縣區是一樣所以我們是 |
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花了多大的心力 我剛才講的都是非直轄市就是台北市跟高雄市之外的所有偏鄉的地方在執行減量教學 評鑑 而且不做學校的評鑑我們有工作法 你敢不敢這三個你實質給我併經費下去 全國實施你敢不敢 你們不敢 你什麼事都不做你敢不敢做課綱 你也不敢做課綱 |
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而且這樣的雙語教學從幾年開始講教育部2018年諮詢學者的時候就講了本席還落後了四年 2011年的時候提出來到現在2025年 又過了三年 前後已經七年了你把我們公立學校的小朋友的英文能力放在哪裡 |
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你們把公立學校的小朋友的公立學你只是圖利圖利實驗學校圖利那個科學園區的這個實驗小學他們都是有錢人的學校 |
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我今天要爭取的是所有全台灣國小到高中公立學校的英文的討論你在谷口說你要給我講方法喔現在主席要請你講你給我講方法我林戴華講得那麼清楚今天我們是錄影錄音喔我所講的每一個講的是有理論跟實驗的部分喔你講不出來只有一句話說你帶回去研究好 戴華委員我們等一下會再進行討論來 |
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陳廷輝委員完 邱志維委員然後范雲委員謝謝主席我覺得現在大家所擔心的就是說我們既然要開放那我們會不會要自己幫手幫腳因為一次修法其實我們等很久所以這也是我們所委員從過去到現在一直希望的就是說既然要開放我們可不可以 |
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能夠讓所有有專業能力的然後真正讓我們自己國內的每一位不論是在秀教或是在職場當中他們都可以得到真正能夠專業的領域的人才所以這個應該也是戴華委員所在修正動力當中所強調就是說你今天 |
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這個雙語教學如果有專業人才要進到我們台灣來做這樣一個教學領域的時候他的範圍 |
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他的範圍 所以這個部分可能你要講得更清楚 大家請教育部我覺得你們有你們的考量但是考量當中要怎麼樣能夠在專業人才跟教育的這樣的一個領域有一個完整性 這個可能要拜託你做一個比較詳細的說明然後 |
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這個當然我們國發會有希望說原本在其他因應產業發展有聘僱外國人之必要經勞動部專案審核審定的工作這個部分你們現在是把它取消掉可是我認為這個部分其實有它存在的必要 |
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真的有它存在不要雖然我修正了也把它修正掉可是你們要把它講得更清楚因為你們說你們要尊重勞動部可是怎麼尊重好 你是不是要在我們的這個立法意旨當中寫得更清楚 |
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否則大家會覺得說這有什麼問題其他因應產業發展有聘僱外國人之必要經勞動部專案核定之工作這沒有問題啊可是為什麼要把它拿掉原因在哪裡那是不是應該轉換在立法議席裡面把它正面表列這部分是我要求的謝謝 |
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好來那個邱志偉謝謝我想這個全世界各國都在搶人才所以我們制定這個法律從新經濟運營法到今天的外國專業人才延攬跟顧問法是集中在這個專業 |
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所以專業的定義就是說它在某項特殊領域或某項領域它有一定的專長這個專長可以對國內的相當產業或者是教學能夠有所注意我認為我基本的立場是在不影響本國勞動力的潛力之下應該從寬從速 |
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來擴大對外國專業人才的招募我基本的立場是這樣子那今天第四條當然這個教學是一種專業教學是一種專業那特別我注意到有一些這個實驗班就是說國立高中不用說這個體育專班體育專班包括有棒球班包括有足球班 |
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我想請教教教育部國際師如果許一般想聘請專業足球的訓練老師或者是棒球的訓練老師在現階段或者在未來 |
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你們能不能用這次修法的內容這次這個制定這個法律的內容來聘請更多在特殊領域專業 比方說足球或棒球專業的外事來協助或教學這部分是不是可以請看起來公立學校就是不可以 |
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但是所以才會有大法委員的提案足球棒球都要依賴很多這個南亞洲澳洲這些人才真的是叫來是布的不過從高中開始就能夠提升這個我們這個運動的水平好 這位委員我們等一下這問題是等一下討論的一個重點是不是范雲委員晚在謝玉鳳委員喔 抱歉還是謝玉鳳委員要先好 OK照順序的 |
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我想大家會有這個疑問主要就是教育部的那個雙語這個政策的執行方法跟目標其實一直很不明確所以才會有人提到說是不是課綱然後那個科目就是體育這些教師是不是要拼英語那我是覺得這個不知道我們今天來的是副司長是不是 |
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市長你能否回答我是懷疑你無法回答這個問題啦因為這個應該是部長回答的那我最近有看到新聞部長好像重申雙語政策的方向要調整嘛那前面潘部長時期說的是說體育這些什麼美術這些科目來用英語教引起很多人的反彈因為各地方政府就是像我知道的花蓮就是國文在招惠英文的然後可能國文不好 |
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所以當時的那波反彈又有教文委員都有質詢過這樣子應該是先把國文會那它有英文加分就是不應該是不會國文的然後收英文對不對可是最近你們部長是不是重新說過要回歸就是說不是這種非英文科目要用英文教而是英文科目要全英文這是我看到的新聞 |
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我想我们先厘清教育部的方法之后才会来讨论是说那个人才的部分我想这个部分如果不厘清的话那大家会纠结在这些事情上以上好 来 谢一半委员好范云老师他讲的应该是就是高等教育委员讲的应该是 |
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我講的其實我們今天不是在改課綱因為講改課綱我覺得太大了就是可能需要所有的教師團體共同來討論那其實我們現在要解決的是目前我們現在的中小學教育裡面遇到的問題 |
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就是其實這是已經發生在所有的教育體系裡面當我們要就是做特色的就是說一般的公立學校要做特色的教學的時候例如像體育像我們的一些英語的教學的時候 |
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他沒有辦法去延攬外師共同來我們今天的題目是協助相關教學而不是取代正職的老師是協助相關的教學那在這個情況下因為這會涉及到非常多相關的可能說取得這些就是居留權或者是相關的議題 |
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那這是發生在教育現場的工作我們沒有要取代正職的老師而是當我們在發展這樣子相關的雙語教育的時候怎麼樣子引入外師做協助的工作那我相信今天的法條是處理這個 |
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而沒有涉及到課綱或者是其他的部分我相信把這個問題可以單純化我們比較容易解決這個問題而不是希望說擴大惡力我們希望解決目前教育現場的問題好 謝謝謝一鋒委員來 等一下等一下各位你要發言的也是教育對 你是要針對教育嗎因為我想我們先鎖定一個議題不然會一直開花 |
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人才那是指教育嗎這也是要跟教育部講還是說你可能會在其他的領域數位還是怎樣那數位我們是不是等一下再來講不然我們現在會有點開放好戴華偉你簡單講不然現在讓他們還是要讓他們回應好不好我呼應所有人簡單講啦對不起一個我即使是數學英文課不是不是數學就是音樂藝術餐飲家政體育程式設計等課程 |
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這樣一個課程兩個老師在教一個是本身這個科人老師另外一個是外籍英文老師你告訴我全台灣的家長他願不願意在這種非學科的課程有兩個老師在教這個叫做協同教學 |
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以及他們之前要共同配課以及戴華所期待的希望能夠建立課綱你們不敢做的所以坦白講就是一個課程兩個老師我們不是協助協助是在兩個老師共同配課教學現場兩個老師你問問全台灣公立學校的家長們他們要不要好來 |
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來教育部來請就剛剛幾位委員的發言可以來做比較細的一個回答不要說只是待會討論這樣 |
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感謝各位委員剛剛的就教那剛經將各位委員的那個指教又轉達給署長那署長其實對於剛剛戴浩委員或伊富文委員或者是各位委員所提的有關要開放各公司立高級中等以下學校如果有辦雙語教育的話他聘請外師可以依外師的專長來協同教學非學科包含了在我們目前 |
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提到的音樂、藝術、參與家政、體育、城市設計等等那我們來配合辦理不過我們會後可以在說明欄的地方可以再加諸一些譬如說看還有沒有其他的學科、任教領域 |
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所以教育部的意思是說你們願意用正面表列的方式讓比方說像是體育啊像是音樂家政啊這一些項目然後他們做協同教學由外資來做協同教學那如果你們要正面表列的話你們是不是可以先列舉 |
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我等一下會第四條我們會回過頭再討論讓他們有時間吧那謝一鋒委員也要發言嗎 |
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沒有喔好那如果這一項教育部可以在你們願意配合的修正的方向你們是不是先把文字擬出來是看是要在立法一旨還是要在這個第四款的條文直接去做文字的處理就是哪些學科是願意用外施來做協同教學的我覺得這教育部應該可以那剛剛的回應事實上應該也符合大法委員的期待很正面喔好 |
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好 那葛禄君委員 |
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好謝謝主席我想這個第4條有提到這個新增數位專業的人才那我們一直非常的關注那我國自2018年起有推出就業金卡不過這個每年延攬的國外人才總數大約只落在2000人到3000人之間那其中如果我們只看AI發展高度相關的這個科技領域 |
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近五年取得就業金卡的平均人數只有426人大家沒有聽錯我沒有少寫一個零或兩個零就是五年426人相較之下我國人才外人的數字是非常恐怖的遠比我們國際攬才的人數要巨大非常多 |
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根據2024的台灣人才白皮書台灣一年有1.2萬人從學校畢業就直接到日本去工作去年美國發出技術人才簽證的數量台灣我們中華民國國籍的就有超過3000人澳洲也吸引台灣的年輕人去度假打工7200個人是亞洲第一與流出的人口人才競相比我們對外染財的數量真的是不太夠 |
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那我們台灣作為人才進出口國呢已經是不爭的事實那英國的牛津經濟學的公司呢也有用數學的模型來推估我們是一個超級赤字全球人才荒負1.5%遠超過南韓的0.9%美國0.8%負0.9%負0.8%美國德國和新加坡負0.6%台灣是負1.5%那這一次行政院版修正的這個草案呢 |
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當然精神上方向上我們是予以支持但是其中有強調將畢業生來台工作免兩年的這個經驗從排名五百大放寬成排名一千大這是怎麼計算的那要多一點為什麼少一點為什麼不是八百為什麼不是一千五還是你乾脆全球前兩千算了這是如何計算的 |
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以及從目前AI產業的市場概況來看AI相關科技人才領域超級搶手根本還在學校這一點我是真的想要提出還在學校就已經被各大企業預定了等到畢業還要有兩年工作經驗我們才要張開大門其實很多我們看到賈伯斯也好很多這些非常厲害的矽谷的工作者創造者 |
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其实很可能也大学都还没毕业我们如果想要用这种方针用这种方针去揽世界顶尖人才尤其是科技我们现在又是AI内阁我们又要打造主权AI还在僵化固守所谓的毕业后两年工作经验相信科技领域人才的赤字还会在节节上升只会让台湾在AI科技的发展上面持续恶化因为人才竞争力不足 |
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那更不用講啦昨天大家可以上網Google一下黃仁勛又聘用了什麼樣的人才更多增加到他的公司裡面他也說了 |
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这个非常多的人才都聚集在一个特定的地方所以我想我不想要讲得太明白但是我希望大家可以理解到我们科技AI的人才一定是要放宽来争取否则我想我们这样一个修法会非常非常可惜我们有一个好的机会针对AI针对数位科技的专才应该要更加的放宽更经济的揽财措施财富和现在的需要谢谢 |
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好 謝謝各位委員來 這個是不是請這個我們國發會是不是說明一下 |
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是 謝謝剛剛幾位委員的指教 剛剛陳廷輝委員提到那個謝謝您對行政版本的支持 那我們會在立法說明裡面加進去 謝謝委員 那有關於葛委員提到我們在科技跟數位人才方面希望能夠加強這點我們完全同意 那也是我們除了這個法修正以外就是為了配合這樣子 另外我們其他的有關於外國專業人才怎麼去精準攬才 包含他在 |
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進入台灣以後怎麼生活環境各方面的這個協助的措施我們都同步在精進中那委員會對各個條文如果有更多的指教我們也會跟委員做一些正面的回應 以上來陳俊輝委員謝謝主席那待會那個立法議席要拜託把它清楚表明出來喔 謝謝 |
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好那第四條這樣啦吼就是說教育部現在可能會針對這個第四款第四條第四款的部分就未來如何讓外資來做協同教學這裡的文字那以及這個立法說明的部分會文字朝你但是我們剛剛今天的版本事實上也有劉建國陳情非賴瑞榮以及 |
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包括我自己那還有羅美玲的委員事實上也都有不同的文字那是不是教育部的文字出來後再跟我們這個國發會再對一下就說你剛剛在劉建國委員有講到說體育這兩個字把它轉成運動那以及未來要一些環境可能一個綠能的一個國際人才的這劉建國委員那如果這個文字要做一個整合 |
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是不是等交易部分之後你們來做一個整併那我們第四條我們等一下就回過頭再來處理這樣好不好好那我先宣讀因為陳廷輝委員有再提一個修正動議是針對第四條那修正動議增加陳廷輝委員第四條條文的提案我們就列入記錄那 |
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還有兩個附帶決議附帶決議是這是其他條文的好那我們等一下再處理好那我們第四條就回過頭後再來再回來處理我們現在處理第五條第五條的條文所有委員的版本都跟行政院版本一致那我們是不是就按照行政院的文字通過好沒有問題那我們來處理第六條那第六條 |
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賴瑞榮委員的修正動議跟行政院不一樣其他都是一樣的請羅美玲委員發言 |
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好謝謝主席第六條的部分我跟院本不一樣的地方就是我有加上就是除了就是說世界大學排名前1000名大學級特殊之外我還加了一個特殊專業優勢學院之學士以上學位子為什麼我會加上特殊專業優勢學院那是因為我們有看到其實我們有很多這個獨立院校其實他雖然沒有參加世界的排名可是他在 |
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某些專業它其實是頂尖的 舉個例子像這個Curtis Institute of Music像這個其實它是世界頂尖的音樂學府那再來還有倫敦大學的科陶德藝術學院其實也是它在這個藝術史專業的這個權威性是世界的這個很重要的代表可是我們就是擔心就是說像這樣子比較有專業性的這些院校沒有被列入我們 |
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怕是說在人才方面有遺足之憾所以我有加了這個特殊專業優勢學院之學士以上學位者那我也想聽聽就是我們國發會的這個意見啦因為你們當然雖然有來說明了那看是說這部分有沒有如果真的沒有辦法列入條文的話是不是我想是在那個立法說明裡面可以列進來好以上謝謝好那這部分是不是請國發會還是教育部來做一個說明 |
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謝謝主席也謝謝委員有關賴銳榮委員的修正建議那我們也有跟這個交易部做討論我想賴委員他是希望能夠引進更多的人國外人才所以他對於排名的建議有一些修正的想法那原則上我們尊重賴委員那我們也會等會會依照賴委員的方向我們會以一個文字來跟各位委員報告那有關於剛剛羅委員提到的 |
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的確沒錯的確有些特殊的學員在很多特定的領域有這個有慢好的表現那這種人才當然本來也是我們需要的不過我們的確是實務上的考慮啦那這點也請委員 |
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稍微見諒一下在實際執行上因為一些特殊領域的這些獨立學院我們怕在實務執行上比較難以有一個公認的標準所以我們希望把我們目前一千大的這個範圍如果更放寬以後也許可以符合委員希望多引進這個人才的這樣子的一個方向我不知道教育部會有沒有補充 |
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你們實務上難以執行的這個地方在哪裡可以再說明一下嗎 |
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報告委員就是以現今的專業領域的排名因為我們綜合性的排名還是以那三個為主三個機構包括QS 泰晤士報跟US News & World Report為主那要找到這樣子相等同的公信力的排名其實不容易再者就是說其實即使這三個排行它也有 |
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針對他的學門領域有去做一些排名嘛那他的排名的結果其實有的比如說某些領域他可能只有排名到前20有的領域可以排名到500所以他這其中差異也是非常大我舉個例子好了我想委員關切一些特殊領域比如說像ParsonsInstitute他這個在設計方面非常的有名嘛 |
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但是他原來的綜合排名他是跟另外一個學校是一起的他是在700多名那我們現在已經從500大放寬到1000嘛那所以其實已經有納進去這樣的學校那他在他設計的領域排名可以說全球可能是前10名甚至百大但是因為我們已經放寬了他就已經被納進去了所以這個排行的範圍已經是越來越大可以包括這些特殊領域的一些學門 |
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好 以上所以您的意思就是說就算是說我們不把這些特殊專業優勢學院列到董門法條裡面實際上它已經在這個前一千前一千的這個 |
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本來就已經列在有一些遺珠可能被五百大排除但是因為我們放寬到一千大所以其實它已經納入的意思但是當然委員擔心說還是有一些遺珠只是說那個會增加我們很多複雜性因為第一個必須要有公信力我們沒辦法就是它有一些很特別的比如說古典音樂或什麼古典什麼一些教學它有很特別的領域那它的排名數本來就很小可能全世界只有 |
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20個那以這樣子來跟其他的學校比如說排名到1000大來相比其實是有複雜性的我們變成要伸出很多名冊來OK 好了解好那個我再跟這個教育部 |
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以及國發會有在確認 因為剛剛次長的回應是說會參考賴瑞榮委員的文字那賴瑞榮的文字是列入教育部外國大學參考名冊之大學校院那跟行政院的文字是世界大學排名前1000名那這兩個文字的差異在哪邊呢 |
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跟主席報告,那個因為只要是教育部目前他認可的學校其實都會寫在他那個範圍裡面,其實是蠻大的所以剛剛我們有跟那個賴委員這個報告,是不是雙方的共識是我們就把1000名改成1500名那這個文字我們都會給賴委員爭取他的同意 |
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所以你們要從1000再放寬到1000是是是比較符合賴委員的這個修正的動議的方向那他還有一段文字是符合法定薪資標準這個他同意是應該是不需要這不需要是是我們這個文字會給賴委員這個簽名同意 |
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好那不然你們還是一樣把你們的文字擬出來我們這一條一樣是等下回過頭再處理好不好那先把文字都擬過來後給在場除了賴銳龍委員以外每位委員都要參考好不好好 |
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那我們接下來處理第6條回過頭再處理我們先處理第7條那第7條的條文每位委員的提案都跟行政院版本一致那我們是不是就按行政院條文文字通過第7條 |
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好第7條沒有問題就按行政院的文字通過好處理第8條那第8條每位委員的提案也跟行政院的條文文字一致我們是不是按行政院版本通過好那我們接下來處理第9條那第9條呢第9條有羅美玲委員的提案是不是請羅委員可以先 |
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好 謝謝主席 第九條的部分文西的這個文字裡面有增加了並因查核申請人是否有入出國籍移民法其他法律或主管機關公告制限制入境管制出入國等情形 為什麼會增加了這段文字 |
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針對於這個申請就業金卡過去在實務上我們就有看到明明我們已經和明明這位外籍人士已經取得了這個就業金卡可是他因為其他的原因被限制入境那像之前有一個美國籍的這個YouTuber他就獲得核發文化藝術類的就業金卡的資格 |
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可是呢他後來呢並沒有辦法入境為什麼呢因為這位美國籍的YouTuber因為他先前在總統大選期間上政論節目涉及非法工作所以呢他就採取管制一定時間沒有辦法入境所以等於是他申請居然是說我們核發的這個就業金卡他一樣沒有辦法進到國內所以我們覺得說這查核這個勾擊出了問題所以這部分應該是在核發 |
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的时候就要查明这个人他有没有后续有没有说没有办法入境的这些情形出现我们发现之前就发生过两次那当然国防会说这个是移民署的责任可是问题是你们要如何去勾击呢这应该是你们横向应该是出了问题吧你们不能说这是移民署的责任你只负责核发金卡可是呢因为他就是先前可能有一些状况可是移民署就不让他入境总不能发生这种事情吧 |
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好請問這如何這如何構機來請相關部會來針對羅委員的發言來做回應謝謝羅委員那個有關於您提到的事情我們事後有立刻做檢討了那的確是在行政上其實是有規定那為了避免再發生類似的情形所以我們現在整個的電腦的作業系統已經改了那有關於 |
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部分說明一下我就是想要了解說你們後來因為發生這種狀況你們電腦有改那怎麼改呢有連線嗎是是有連線因為本來的作業系統是懲辦人員他要去查詢他要去查詢有沒有註記一些違法的事情那在註記方面是有了只不過有一兩個個案是疏忽到沒有去查詢那現在變成懲辦人員在作業的時候電腦會自動只要有註記他會自動跳出來會 |
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會跟承辦同仁提醒說有這樣的狀況以避免產生萬一有同仁一時疏忽造成的這個問題所以我們在整個作業系統上已經做了處理那因為這個是比較行政作業系統上的問題我們會持續強化所以我們建議在法案上是不是還是按照行政院的版本 |
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反正法案這樣子寫 你們以後就遵照這麼做嘛你拿掉的話是 你們就需要拿掉的原因是什麼因為你本來就要這麼做了啊 你們就不需要這麼做啊是 但是因為我想還是我們立法體制的問題啦就是有一些我們行政部門本來應該做的事項我們不會把每一個都寫在法律裡面但是相關的事情我們當然已經有現在的規定我們也會持續講話那這樣子把它放在立法說明好不好 |
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這個移民署要說明一下嗎主席委員 |
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有關這個案子的部分的話那因為本署已經召開我們署內的部分那也跟署外的單位有做一些聯繫那確實是剛剛誠如我們國發會的長官所談的目前為止我們已經改善相關的系統也在我們的註記的部分特別以明顯的顏色來做區分那也特別請我們的服務站所有的主管針對有註記的部分都應該由主管來加註意見之後才能去做核發 |
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來做改善 那希望以後這部分情況不會再發生 以上來 羅委員好 那如果羅委員願意應該是說有接受行政院剛剛的論述的話那我們文字部分是不是按行政院的條文來通過OK 文字按照行政院的條文通過 這個我可以接受可是呢 剛剛我們所提到就是這段文字可以放在立法說明裡面 |
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OK 這沒問題嘛好那這部分把它放在這個立法說明 |
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好那我們第9條條文就按行政院文字通過那立法說明請這個這個國安會這邊朝你齁那一樣是先給我們看一下好不好好我們現在處理第10條第10條的條文所有委員的版本都跟行政院版本一致我們是不是就按行政院的條文文字通過好來接下來處理第11條 |
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第11條第11條有賴瑞榮委員的修正動議那以及黃婕委員的文字跟行政院不一樣還有我自己的我自己的文字好那是不是請這個國發會來說明 |
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是跟主席跟各位委員報告那謝謝委員的建議啦齁那我們這個是主要是放寬這個世界排名前200大的這個大學畢業生可以在台灣就是直接申請工作齁但是我們規定是不得延期及重新申請那主席蔡委員的版本主要是提到不得延期但是沒有重新申請啦那我們覺得 |
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是不是還是可以按照行政院的版本那剛剛賴瑞榮委員的修正動議他是建議把200大放換為500大那我們也有跟賴委員溝通因為這個其實我們是參考世界其他國家譬如說英國他是開放世界前50大那其他的國家大概在針對這個可以自由 |
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工作這方面相對比較嚴謹所以賴委員也同意我們可以做一些橫頻的考量所以這個我們是不是建議還是參考行政院的版本那黃委員的部分也是提到這個排名的部分他也是特別再加了一下這個特定的專業領域或者考量國家重點產業 |
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那有關於這部分其實在前面那個剛剛討論到那個一千大的部分已經說明那可能還是希望有這個比較一致性的標準實務上可以比較容易推動所以我們建議是不是按照行政院的版本以上這個我的提案就是說如果他要重新申請的話你們也是不同不同意就對了算是已經是一個對 |
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就是兩年限期不能再讓他再重新再申請是是是好那沒關係我也我尊重尊重這個國發會來我們現在對第11條的文字就按行政院的版本通過大家有意見沒有OK |
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好那就第11條條文就按行政院文字通過第12條所有委員版本一致那我們是按行政院的文字通過OK好按行政院文字通過第13條所有委員也是跟行政院版本一致我們也按行政院的文字通過 |
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那個 抱歉抱歉那個 朝偉因為剛剛我突然有事喔12條我可以補問一下那個問題就好 好嗎好 來因為12條是新增嘛不好意思 因為我的版本還在路上齁那所以我是想問問題是說因為這題是說外國人取得我國副學士 |
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我們看到是說這個是參採歐洲很多國家的流財制度像英國、德國、荷蘭等等可是歐洲這些國家的制度都是開放學士以上的畢業生為什麼我們是放寬副學士我覺得攬財的用意非常好 |
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那但是就是說因為現在我們在教育文化委員會裡面那一直在跟教育部處理大量外籍學生有兩年的打黑工的機會然後甚至有少數學校就是好像跟公司工廠合作 |
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利用這個機會然後變成是一個風險那所以想請問剛剛就是國發會可不可以先談一下別的國家是開放學士為什麼我們是副學士那也請問教育部如何避免就是這種風險那保障我們外籍畢業生的工作權 |
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來請國發會員說明謝謝范委員的這個問題喔那有關於傅學士的部分因為我們也認為說傅學士也是在台灣受教育嘛所以像這些他所習得的這些技術我想也是我們企業所需要啦所以當初在訂法律的時候第12條這次算沒有修正那之前的我想立法理由就是希望 |
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這樣的人才我們希望還是能夠留下來為我們所用所以才有這樣子的規定那委員提到說我們怎麼避免這些可能一些必變我們是不是請教一部說明一下 謝謝來 請教一部是 跟委員說明這個條文的意思是說在我國取得副學士以上那當然包括學士他在密職 他有一定的密職期間嘛那是可以讓他不要申請工作許可證 |
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是這個意思那個國發會好像剛剛沒有回應說學士跟副學士差異的人是多少然後大概在哪些人教育部沒有回應說你們現在那個打黑工的問題還沒有解決對不對那這個副學士開放對教育部來講是影響哪些學校哪些人那你們怎麼解決補上這個大家擔心的這個還有甚至成為那個奴工制度的問題 |
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是那個跟委員報告那個確實的人數可能再跟委員這個另外說明一下我手上目前沒有確實的人數不過副學士大概主要就是像以前我們這些專科學校的那當然現在比較少了對但是還是有一些大概最新的是266人副學士的部分 |
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266人會申請是不是所以就是增加這266人對你們來講很重要就對了因為其他國家都用學士我們把它改成副學士可能每個學士國家的制度不太一樣歷年的畢業人數其實都在 |
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一百人以下一二年只有八十五人那就是說因為教育部剛剛也沒有回應我的問題啦我基本上是尊重行政院的全盤的考慮可是我們會擔心說變成有些學校會不會要退場然後反而沒有然後變成是一個新的洞那教育部是不是可以寫一個附帶決議說你們怎麼避免我們擔心的問題好不好 |
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就是說你們支持國發會這個開放到副學士可是現在看起來人很少不代表未來會人很少那他萬一變成是一個就是你知道奇怪的地方的話不是我們樂見的因為我們是要專業攬財嘛那教育部可不可以寫一個附帶決議針對這個第12條跟其他國家不一樣要開放到副學士的部分好不好那個教育部OK吧好 那主席就這樣 |
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這個針對范委員剛剛提示的這附帶決議是不是也好所以第12條一樣是照剛剛宣讀依行政院的版本新增通過來第13條也宣讀過了好第14條新增條文那有羅美玲委員的文字跟行政院有不一樣的那是不是請羅委員來發言 |
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這個部分國發會有來討論過這個部分我可以接受原版OK好那我們第14條就按照行政院的版本新增通過有異議沒有的話就按行政院版本新增通過接下來處理第15條那第15條有賴瑞榮委員的版本那是不是這個國發會有溝通嗎 |
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第15條抱歉我拿一下讓我給我看這也滿好的 |
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這個賴瑞榮委員的文字主要是在第15條的第一項部分那第一項部分他把該工作許可期間不得預期依親居留期間他把這樣的文字把它拿掉是了解那個我沒有跟賴委員溝通因為我們的文字裡面後面還有一個工作 |
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工作許可期間不得逾期依親居留那這份賴委員的版本是把它刪掉不過這個可能會造成一些困擾那我們有跟這個賴委員溝通那他也同意有溝通好有溝通就好那第15條就按照15條 |
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好 范委員好 15條我是要問那個內政部問題因為你這邊這個是經內政部移民署許可的那個高級專業人才的配偶可以在我國一遷居留嘛那我覺得依內政部許可是好的那我只想問這個配偶的定義是不是包含就是 |
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就是同性婚姻就是有合法的同性婚姻關係的或者是在第三地的合法的婚姻關係的那個配偶我看國發會主委國發會代表是點頭嘛好那如果點頭的話是不是也有一個附帶決議把它說清楚因為有些時候好那個是內政部嗎來內政部說明 |
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主席好委員那我們對於所謂的配偶的定義的部分因為外國人的配偶有可能是五國國人也有可能是外國人有外一外也有可能是同性配偶這些都是包含在裡面的以上 |
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那這個內政部是不是也寫一個附帶決議把這個事項可以說清楚好不好有包含讓大家知道沒有歧視然後因為這裡面有一些複雜的規定你們應該比我更了解好不好好那謝謝所以第15條也請這邊擬一下附帶決議那第15條就按行政院的版本通過來我們接下來處理第16條第16條 |
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第16條都一樣啦就是因為我們修正條文是寫的內政部移民署那委員的版本比較沒有 |
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主要是一些法治上的用語不太一樣所以我們就是就只有那個就尊重行政院的版本因為好像就是只有內政部移民署這個文字修正而已好那就按行政院的版本文字通過來處理第17條17條好像也是一樣 |
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對 就法制的用語而已 黃婕委員的好 那就按照行政院的版本通過OK 謝謝好 處理第18條那第18條有賴瑞榮委員跟何欣淳委員 |
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來 是不是請行政院說明一下您有沒有跟這些提案的委員溝通呢是 有關於何委員的部分有一些差異但是我們 我有跟何委員說明那何委員表示支持有關何委員是建議支持我們的行政院版本那賴瑞榮委員那有關於 |
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賴偉那部分我們剛剛這部分我們是還在跟他溝通他是這個你們那個折抵的部分你們是兩年他是提案是三年 |
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那學士副學士是折抵一年他是折抵兩年這部分我們碩士碩士兩年那學士副學士一年好那我們請同仁說明一下剛溝通的跟賴委員說明的結果 |
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是跟委員報告就有關賴委員提案博士學位折抵三年碩士學位折抵兩年這個部分我們是可以支持競票同意那至於就是第二項第二項有關在外國特定專業人才碩士 |
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學位者要折抵一年六個月那這個部分我經跟漁民署討論這種六個月的部分在執行上是有困難的所以我們建議就是還是維持一年這樣子因為這個部分是一年六個月這個部分在永居的認定上面是有困難的 |
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好所以你折抵的部分奈瑞隆委員的就是說他們折抵的年限博士是三年碩士是兩年這個都比你們的原始版本要多一年這你們是同意的是那這個但是他的文字有這個據多種學位者謹得折一折抵那這樣的文字你們你們的看法 |
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等一下要不要把你們整個可以修正的部分然後全部把它列出來好嗎你全部列出來因為這樣看起來蠻亂的對啊你全部列出來我們再回來再處理那我們第18條我們等一下回過頭處理來處理第19條來18條有謝一鳳召委的附帶決議來是不是請宣讀 |
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委員謝玉鳳等所提第18條附帶決議鑒於我國勞動力短缺導應於少子女化與高齡化問題國發會應統籌相關部會依各類專業工作供需狀況分別訂定外籍專業人才每年申請永久居留名額並適時檢討政策執行狀況穩當修正之宣言完畢 |
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好那我們這附帶決議等條文處理後再來一併處理來我們處理第19條第19條有我跟羅美玲的委員的版本那來這個羅委員你要發言嗎一樣啦齁 |
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應該是一樣的 一樣 只是條文的架構那這一條我們就第19條就按行政院的版本文字通過是謝謝好沒問題接下來處理第 |
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現行法第17條行政院提案刪除所有委員版本也一致我們是不是就按照行政院的文字然後把現行法第17條刪除好沒有問題那就以行政院的版本來做處理來接下來處理第20條那第20條勒 |
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有我還有羅美玲委員的版本那這份羅委員也要發言嗎我可以照願版那就照願版好 那我也照願版 |
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好那第20條一樣是按行政院的版本提案通過來處理21條21條也是全部的版本都跟行政院版本通過我們是按行政院版本文字通過好按行政院版本通過第22條 |
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也是一樣22條有我的提案那這一條我就比較堅持了因為行政院的文字是就是課300萬那我是改成200萬那我主要的一個理由就是說我們要增加這樣的國際競爭力而且這些國際競爭力他們來台灣就業 |
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他們要課多少稅這個是他們會很計較的我想這個每一個國家的人都一樣到那個國家工作那我要被課多少稅那我覺得這應該要比照新加坡甚至是香港新加坡香港事實上他們的課稅的這個額度都比我們現在低很多那我認為現在行政院所列的300萬 |
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這個競爭力仍然不夠所以我具體的建議是把它改成兩百萬的科稅額度起算五年來做這個免稅的那這是行政院可以國發會這邊可以說明一下我們復議復議稍微的因為在跟國際搶人才你的誘因不夠放寬既是放寬鬆綁的幅度不夠那誘因不足我不曉得怎麼跟國際搶人才所以我復議稍微的 |
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好 謝謝戴發委員謝謝委員的建議啦這的確我們也覺得對租稅競爭力對我們引進人才當然有一定的幫助我想這點方向上我們很肯定不過租稅的部分因為考慮的面向可能更多一點所以是不是我們可以請負稅署來做個說明來 請負稅署 |
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複稅署說明一下就是這一條主要是為了我們吸引這些比較高階而且具有特地專長的這個國際人才所以我們給他租稅優惠那因為是這種國際的人才他大概是各國或者是各個企業競相爭取的所以他其實他的薪資會比較高那我們就是用300萬元來認定說這個是我們 |
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是國際上競相爭取那我們也需要的人才用這個300萬元當作一個認定的基準那如果把這個300萬元再往下修因為這個租稅優惠條文它很特別它其實是一個超國民待遇也就是說我們國人不能適用那只有外國的來台的人才才可以適用那所以它是一個超國民待遇那如果把這個門檻 |
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往下修的話那我們可能也要考慮到說這個200多萬的人才其實國內的人才其實也非常的多那這個也要考慮到說這個國內的這個人才的這個橫平性然後會不會造成這個國內人才的這個不公平的競爭等等的問題所以我們認為說這個可能也要再審慎的考量以上說明 |
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這個我的看法說齁因為你們賦稅署可能是站在對國內人才的公平性問題但是我比較著重的是跟外國的比較也就是外國在於這一個免稅額度的一個制定他們的金額大概是多少我覺得台灣應該 |
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要保持說至少我們要跟其他類似的國家日本、新加坡、香港同等的競爭力我們不用比他們還要低沒關係但至少要有一個同等的競爭力這個是不是可以說明一下跟外國相比的 |
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這個大概以個人稅制而言大概新加坡它其實是比較特殊比較低的但是如果我們要去跟譬如說像日本、韓國、美國等等比其實我們的個人中手稅的租稅待遇並沒有比較重是一般在國際上算是很平的有整理嗎? |
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有但是我現在手上沒有我們可不可以等一下再補充我複製主席兩點第一個其他講到的這個香港新加坡他們其實在這個國民所得來講都比我們高比我們高的情況之下他的扣稅額又比我們低 |
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這是第一個所以你的講法就不攻自破了人家的國民所得比我們高但他優惠的更低 |
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那第二個我們台灣的個人眾所遂的是高稅率高達45%我知道的像40%新加坡我了解的是17%日本的也百分之多少他都沒有到40%對於高所得這一個部分 |
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所以光是這兩點我不曉得在你的所謂這個租稅公平的利基點上我覺得是會被挑戰的跟委員再說明一下適用這一條租稅優惠的這個這個 |
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目前適用的行為我們有去統計啦他大概適用了這個租稅優惠以後他的有效稅率已經降到15%了已經其實算是很有我們的這樣子的稅制其實已經很有國際競爭力了來這個國發會呢國發會要不要表示意見 |
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其實就名目、稅率而言當然每個國家不一樣所以如果在相同的條件下我們希望我們更有競爭力的話租稅也許是一個可以考慮的方向所以我們在這方面是方向上我想跟委員的想法是一致的不過 |
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我們還是要尊重財政部他們這個橫拼的結果那他剛剛提出兩點是有關國內的部分還有實質稅率的部分那這點就是請委員再考慮你現在說方向跟我們一致我就不知道要怎麼處理你跟負稅署內部就打架啦 |
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我們停飛委員也正在 休息五分鐘 趕快就這個 趕快來協調一下 |
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好,謝謝! |
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中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
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OK 好 謝謝 |
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中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
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中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
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一樣是這幾個,不會說三排改三排又不蠻不錯的,不蠻好的,就是其實我當的前世都是...我很謝謝委員,真的,非常好,非常好,非常好,非常好 |
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好,謝謝 |
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谢谢观看 |
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| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
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9941.863 |
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這裏是一間酒店 |
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謝謝各位 |
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好現在繼續開會 |
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那第22條那剛剛我們休息討論那基於說因為這個是外國的專業人才所以這些高階人才基本上他的薪資大概都會超過300萬所以不管是訂200還是訂300適用的大概 |
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同樣一群人所以不會因為改成200就會增加哪些所以大概不會有說影響競爭力的一個狀況所以我願意接受可是同樣的啦回過頭那如果事實上他也不衝擊國內的專業人才因為國內的專業人才薪水不可能會比外國的就一定低到哪裡去那但是當然還是會有其他的人的一些觀感問題 |
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那我就同意我們這條文就按行政院的版本通過來大家有意見沒有意見就按行政院的文字通過來處理第23條那23算是一樣的都一樣我們就按行政院的版本文字通過好處理第24條 |
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來24條文字好像都差不多對他大概就是法資用語而已如果大家同意的話我們是不是就按行政院的版本通過好同意我們處理第25條是新增條文 |
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那新增條文部分我和羅美玲委員的版本事實上這也是法治用語的差異差不多那這邊如果沒有問題的話我們是按行政院的版本來通過同意好依行政院文字通過新增新增通過第26條那第26條 |
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好像也一樣 也是文字的文字用語好那也是法治用語的差異而已我們也是按行政院的版本來通過來處理第27條新增條文一樣是法治用語的差異那就依27條依行政院的文字通過 處理28條現在一樣喔 |
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好 那請發明委員發言這個28條因為涉及到就是說目前很多身心障礙就是無法自理生活的人那他們在爭取關於那個個人助理的核發時數的時候像我剛剛還去參加一個記者會就涉及到台北市政府怎麼認定的問題那政府這邊衛福部經常會說資源不足其實就是錢的問題 |
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那我想從一個平等跟爭取外國人的話我們專業人才我們會希望說28條這個部分可以照院本通過那但是如何避免就是就是藏權者擔心說資源排擠那我想衛福部可能要講清楚那然後我剛剛看到有幾個委員有個附帶決議那這部分 |
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衛福部今天有代表在是不是可以公開說明一下因為我剛剛看那個附帶決議就是說要用額外的預算那這樣子能夠讓大家更清楚那也可以從預算中知道就是到底這方面使用的情況如何因為一方面衛福部跟大家說資源不足然後這邊我們國內的就覺得個人助理的時數太少了那大家就會擔心排擠那可是從吸引人才的話你應該要有合理的開放嘛那這部分衛福部可以講一下 |
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好 那這次請衛福部來說明一下謝謝主席 謝謝委員的垂詢我想這一點有關於委員垂詢的這個自立生活的部分如果說是目前我們以第28條的條文來講它的確是被放在裡面的那目前我們估算出來整體我們在第28條大概以114年我們推估可能會增加的預算大概是580幾萬那115年大概是接近700萬這樣的一個預算 |
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那我们评估这样的预算应该是我们卫福部编列预算来讲是足以指引的因为事实上在这样的服务里头我们其实跟地方政府是协力合作的那以委员所提的这些案例的确它有很特殊的案例那也有很一般的案例那很特殊的案例我们大概会借着我们专业团队的一个审查来跟我们的障碍者之间来拉近距离 |
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最主要是我们的个人照顾服务办法里面最主要是协助我们的声音障碍者社会参与的部分那现在声音障碍者比较多是个人身体照顾他其实是生活的部分那我们也尽量的来拉近这个距离所以我想在这个部分我们会持续的来跟障碍团体来做一个沟通让彼此的这个需求可以更为拉近那至于审查团队的状况我们也会来精进让他们的整个审查是有所依据的 |
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避免說縣市之間有太大的一個差距這樣 以上報告那個昭瑋我再追問一下所以聽起來你剛剛說外國人這邊需要的資源好像年度沒有超過一千萬是不是 目前 |
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我們的推估是這樣子那當然要推估來講還要看看實際落實的狀況那因為未來就是說我們那個帳權法也正在修改嘛對不對理論上就是說應該是朝向更多的社福資源的提供對不對那我想就是如果你們推估是OK的話 |
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那另外還有申請上各地方政府是不是都有就是譬如說至少英文的這個版本的申請書等等那這部分目前應該是還沒有嘛那是不是你也衛福部這邊也寫一個附帶決議讓大家知道這部分就是如果你真的開放了然後制度上大家是用得到的好不好好友善的好那個廷輝委員完那個超平委員 |
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謝謝朝偉 其實28跟29其實大家當時候比較真一點就是說 |
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它排擠到我們國內自己的一個身心障礙這些服務的資源所以我覺得這個部分請衛福部一定要在這個區塊就是說怎麼能夠兼顧到照顧到我們專業人才他們相關的一個權益可是也不排擠到我們自己國內這一塊長照的區塊這可能是比較重要的 |
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那我們就尊重你們尊重你們的專業但是呢這個部分還是要讓我們國內的民眾會安心這是重點 謝謝來 陳昌明委員這次希望的外國專業人才研覽及顧問 |
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法的修正草案大概分為四個面項第一個工作第一個停機留錢、數位保障還有其他主席我比較晚到但是第四條我們提案的第四條你那邊只增加數位 |
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但是生物科技很重要你這邊再增加一個生技好不好這可能未來比台積電還要重要的一個產業我希望這邊能很明確的生技產業有沒有困難不要只有電頭,電頭表是好與不好 |
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因為這邊弱了,大家現在只想到AI,AI很重要其實台灣的生機未來發展很重要,我希望能加上生機,有沒有困難?謝謝陳委員,我們實際上在處理的時候,的確生醫方面是蠻多人來申請現在沒有這個領域,所以我們透過會商的方式處理 |
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你說透過怎樣處理會商因為我們除了特定的領域之外我們也會增加一個你一定要加上生技你不要這樣小笑現在AI再瘋狂你跟著瘋狂AI仍然有一段路要走我們都很知道這個情形但是生技產業一定要拿進去這個未來很重要一個產業因為它配合著AI未來新藥新的製程新的方式出來我希望能加上生技 |
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好 謝謝我們的召委我希望第四條裡面他加一個數位裡面能再加一個生計產業 |
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再加一個什麼生技生技生技產業好不好這個很重要第四條因為我們等一下會回過頭處理所以你們在整理文字的時候是不是把超明委員的意見列為考量因為第四條還沒處理過我們會再回過頭今天所有我們都全議會支持換換人才進來台灣是民主自由國家 |
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但是你給他放寬了這些其實作用不大 |
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你現在像我們AI的人才我們台灣變成新鏈手我們還在養養得益很多AI的人才都被挖走了所以你國外會特別注意這一點但是你吸引人才進來的話我覺得啊 資稅的優惠非常重要你們現在300萬你現在用多少錢去想台積電近期的員工我現在大概比較資深的話大概一個月債20幾萬 |
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到30萬的出頭但是在美國Google公司幾個大的公司一進去的話他的月薪大概值台幣五六十萬他們是這樣吸引人才所以這邊你那個租稅的優惠條件你沒有降低不足以吸引我們人才留在這邊所以你這租稅優稅這邊都弄出來了看起來非常好其實功效不大財政部呢 |
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那個複稅署複稅署在哪裡?複稅署有說明說他用三百萬大概就是說現在二十五萬左右月薪三百萬三百萬你七十二也差二五萬跟二七萬二百萬左右 |
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啊你現在用台積電的水準去算所以你又起手人才一百這邊有困難你用這樣去換算所以你在三百萬的齁這樣不足以吸引人才我覺得在兩百萬左右齁我是感受齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁齁 |
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你看歐美的公司鈔票他們自己運的薪水都特別的高啊你如果要去抵擋得了人往高這把水往低處流薪水高的地方就跑到那個地方去了 |
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好,來請負稅署再說明一下你們要觀念要改變啦,不要天天只想縮錢啦請他們來替我們賺錢最重要啦好不好來,剛剛你們告訴我的那個計算方式是不是再跟陳超明委員說明一下你想說台積電,我們家台積電薪水大家最高最喜歡,不然用年華科兩個公司去比較 |
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二十幾萬算很高啦阿你現在這樣怎麼吸引外國人來台灣好不好阿你想到歐美剛剛有談到歐洲他們薪水特別高你要怎麼吸引人你沒有這邊在優惠的話怎麼要吸引人才 |
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好不好 考量一下啦 不要只想收入啦負稅署說明一下我們這個租稅優惠其實是蠻優惠我們有去統計是用這個租稅優惠它的實質有效所以大概只剩下15%也就是說本來明目稅率是40% |
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那用了這個優惠以後它的實質的有效稅已經大幅降到15那這幾年來我們從107年度開始來提供這個租稅優惠到大概112年度大概這6年期間其實在這個部分已經整體而言已經減少了大概40億的稅收在這個吸引 |
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四十億在這個租稅優惠部分來吸引這個國際的高階人才所以其實這個是相當的優惠的四十億等於差不多一億多美金而已在整體上台灣的GDP裡面占的非常少我們是希望人才能創造更高的 |
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臺灣的未來前景我們一定要領先 你就要用這個改變40億在這裡有什麼你這樣繼續計較會很多外國優秀人才不會來這個地方你再去考慮 40億不算多我講真的 我們外銷現在很好 我們永遠 |
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要創造我們家具人才非常重要考量一下不要說我少了40億可能跟你創造的4千億出來也不一定你現在不要看這樣科技的時候很難講一個稍微改變整個都改變了希望考量一下好不好謝謝委員 |
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200就是一年 那一個月16萬啊300就是一個月25萬啊那到底會影響多少人數這是不是負稅數你們可以再具體說還是 國發會說明一下300跟200的差異就是這樣16萬跟25萬啊 |
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你這個攬財你是不是有一個基本最基本的你不是有說嗎他一定是要16萬月薪16萬那月薪16萬那等於在家年終這樣所有他的年資所得是多少是啊你要這樣說明啊你在講說集聚誰理你集聚啦 |
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我們現在在講競爭力嘛所以200萬你把它除以12就是那你們最低就一個月16萬嘛那如果12個月的話就是192萬不算年中沒有算年中就是192萬所以我們才會說以200萬這個如果是200萬就是等於看起來就是每個人都是用減稅的就是這個免稅額度因為 |
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阿年終的話你就把它課嘛表示你賺的越多課的越多他們不會報應所以200跟300的差距到底在哪裡是不是負稅署可以說可以具體說一下所以說你認為200跟300是沒有差的所以我們剛剛照300萬的免稅額度來通過因為你們告訴我是沒有差距的嘛 |
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那你是不是再跟陳委員再具體說明一下因為大家很在意這一點應該是說現在適用的人平均年薪平均是700多萬啦是700多萬是這樣子都是比較高薪高階的這樣子對那當然把這個法律上的門檻從300降到200就會變成大概大概會有更多的人進來用只是說這個是一個 |
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感受問題因為這是超國民待遇那超國民待遇是不是我們還是維持一定的要求一定的門檻是不是比較適當這樣就實際上你們現在的平均的這些專業人才他們的平均薪資是700萬年薪700萬所以基本上都適用到就是300萬這個門檻也是幾乎都適用到了是夠用的對來國發會你們的負稅組這樣你們的看法 |
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沒有啦 其實跟委員報告就是我們我們方向上當然還是希望水質上有比較有好的誘因啦是那所以我們是針對我們比較不是從國人的這個薪資的橫貧系來考量是從比較吸引外國優秀人才的這部分來考量啦那雖然說也許覺得好像 |
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剛剛有提到說會有一些稅收的損失但是我想之前跟委員說明都是希望說這些人如果不來台灣這些稅收原則上我們也沒有所以希望盡量能夠在租稅上有競爭力更多的人來會比較好我想這是我們會理過去長期的立場應該都是這樣子好來曹平委員 |
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負稅值考量一下如果你減了40億你再反向可能創造400億4千億出來也不一定永遠創新是現在最主要的科技的一個子流不要以你們的立場我稅收多稅一點我們超出那麼多不差上40億只要人才進來能創造台灣的競爭力最為重要好不好 |
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稍微改變一下 看這樣子不要自己想像這樣而已我想因為這條我們剛才的討論有已經照行政院的文字通過了啦但是我覺得你們的 |
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再想一下啦確實啦因為胡發會講的啊這些人不進來你根本課不到稅啊我們這個條文的用意就是要創造誘因嘛要有足夠的誘因讓這些人來台灣就業所以既然要創造誘因的話這個誘因就要把它做足 |
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這個時候反而就不要再去講說這是超國的國民待遇我們要吸引他來就是創造誘因就是希望誘因給他們來所以沒關係我們也是今天我們也是照行政院的版本但是未來還有二讀五等一下 主席我現在還是聽不太懂到底降低到200萬的課稅跟300萬的課稅有什麼差別我還是回歸像陳昌明省委員問的你怎麼討論起來 結論是什麼 |
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是跟委員報告因為行政院在討論的時候並沒有這個議題啦並沒有說要講所以目前國發會也沒有就這部分有相關的數據統計因為如果要其實要擴大租稅業會一般而言其實會先做稅市支出評估但是因為行政院版沒有這樣的話我副議就兩百萬 |
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那如果之後協商你們覺得你們有做足準備你想要改再來改我是覺得我贊成國發會的立場因為國發會立場就是我們召委的立場那大家都在世界競爭人才我都覺得我們的誘因其實是不足的我們開放的條件是不夠的那連你們現在都還沒有辦法告訴我們委員會的委員們說我降低200的課稅到底會減少 |
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多少跟你扣300我降低我定在300萬的一個收入的時候我會課多少你現在都講你都沒有實質的數據呀那既然沒有的話表示你到底會損失多少的稅收你也講不出來呀 |
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那我們就站在國際淨財跟各世界各國淨財的角度那我這邊主張招委是不是就是直接能夠就用兩百萬等你們真的稅收覺得那個是稅收是會大損失但是就像超明委員講的啊它所造成的經濟效益是什麼每一個進來的科技人才所造成的科技產值它的營業額是什麼你們就精算嘛 |
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那如果現在你們算不出來沒有做足功課你就來審查法案那是你們的問題我覺得還是站在國際政財的角度那如果大家同意的話我們是不是回過頭來處理22條雖然剛剛宣讀過了不過這個是一個很大的我們認為這個外國攬財的一個很重要的爭點因為我們要擴大 |
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讓外國人才來臺灣就業的誘因所以我們希望是定債200萬這是我的提案那事實上也有代法委員跟超民委員的支持那如果大家都同意的話要不然按我的版本來通過 |
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報告委員我們是希望因為這個條文是超國民待遇也就是外籍人才可以用但是本國的勞工不能用所以我們還是希望是說我們就吸引高階的外國人才來了以後整個把我們的產業的這個產業提升以後然後我們讓我們的更多人國人可以領高薪這樣子 |
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那如果他們不來國人是不是還可以領高薪以及他們不來他們的專業國人是不是可以替代是那我們現在是法律案上我們是用300萬元當作這吸引他300萬元的人才他們來所創造的產值他所擔任職位所創造的產值跟本國的技術人才如果是在同樣類伯所造成產值你們去算啊 |
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你們去算啊你們沒有辦法講出實質你從國內的很明顯這我也認同問題是今天沒有這些特殊專業的人來因為既然是高興沒有一個企業會笨到說我請一個高興然後呢他是來 |
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來重複做本國的技術人才專業的沒有這回事啦就是本國人才的這些人可能他的專業是很好的但是我們希望再往高階去做的時候他的專業是本國人才應該可以再來做補充的那我們希望他來做那他所創造的場子當然會比本國人更高嘛 |
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這才是這個我不會有一個企業說我願意發高薪來做全部都進來做重複本國人可以做的事情沒有一個企業會笨到這個程度啊所以你應該是從這個角度你真的是要企業攬財我相信你們老是想的跟大家想的就是還是在半導體產業的人才的競逐嘛這才是重點嘛 |
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我請教一下付稅署啦 造行政院原本的文字是300萬嘛那300萬是不是超國民待遇 也是超國民待遇嘛所以一樣都是 這個條文一旦訂出來就是會本國人會有不一致那這個不一致就是也許你們說的不公平 原本條文300萬就是這樣了 |
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那所以200跟300只是一個級距但是站在國發會的立場是認為說把它改成200對於 |
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讓這個外國專業人才來的誘因會比300萬來的好一點看起來國發會是這樣認為那既然這樣以及國發會主管法案的機關那以及我們目前在場委員都認為用200萬一樣是超國民待遇但是200萬的誘因比較足那我們就照200萬的版本來通過好不好 |
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主管 抱歉主管機關是國化會嘛現在現場立委都已經有贊成而且議會議員比較大我相信我是建議不要再堅持300就定200好不好好啦 那就這樣啦所以我就更正啦第22條就按照我的版本蔡議委員的版本修正通過好 |
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來28條那28條事實上剛剛也都有討論了這個范雲委員也接受依依這個只是說你希望他們有附帶決議嘛那現在先領一下附帶決議那28條就按照行政院的版本修正文字通過新增通過來接下來處理第29條那29條勒 |
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有我和羅美玲委員的文字那這文字大概也是一些屬於法治的用字用語那如果沒有意見的話我們是不是按照行政院的版本新政通過來請問副議員沒問題嗎 |
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11584.849 |
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好那第29條就按行政院的文字新增通過那2829條這個謝一鳳委員陳昌明委員跟葛如君委員有提附帶決議請宣讀附帶決議 |
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针对外国专业人才本人配偶未成年子女及因身心障碍无法自理生活之成年子女予获许可永久居留并经评估适用身心障碍者权益保障法第五十条第五十一条长期照顾服务法第八条之一第四项规定所提供之服务而衍生之相关费用未服务应以外加方式编列之应维持整体照顾服务品质与量能宣读完毕 |
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11617.5 |
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來這個針對謝一鳳委員的附帶決議這個請這個主管機關國發會說明一下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
11648.045 |
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針對謝委員的附帶決議原則上我們就是同意這樣子的文字那我們建議在最後倒數第二行衛福部應以外加方式編列之印這個文字能不能修正為衛福部應編列預算之印 |
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11673.663 |
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就是把外加方式這幾個字這個提案陳昌明委員這邊如果照國發會的這個附帶決議修正這個範圍你就是直接說一定要編列預算來支援那是最好的他不好意思那你要更明瞭我們支持是謝謝就是文字修正為衛福部應 |
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編列預算之印好不好那個外加就是這個把它拿掉好那這個第28條29條的附帶決議就修正通過來接下來處理第30條第30條所有委員的版本都跟行政院版本一致我們是不是按行政院的版本文字通過 |
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好沒有問題的話就按行政院的文字通過來處理第31條那第31條呢所有委員的版本也是跟行政院的版本一致我們是不是也按行政院的提案文字通過好那就按行政院的提案通過來處理第32條 |
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第32條我和羅美玲的委員也是這個法制的用字的差異性那如果每位委員沒有意見的話我們是不是也是按行政院的提案文字通過好依行政院提案通過來接下來處理第33條那第33條所有委員的版本跟行政院版本一致我們是不是按行政院的提案文字通過 |
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11755.557 |
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好那我們回過頭來處理第4條第4條大概是這部條文的最重中之重的條文來回過頭第4條的新的版本有提出來了嗎好沒關係 |
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11776.977 |
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我們回過頭要處理的條文有第四條第六條跟第十八條那是不是我們休息五分鐘那把這三個條文給每一位委員這三個條文的修正文字那我們今天會議就開到所有議案處理結束休息五分鐘 |
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11807.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
4、6、8還有附帶權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11824.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11828.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
我給我二姨生過了,我二姨生快點,我趕快走了。 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
11860.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11866.207 |
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因為陳超明委員有說希望再增加這個生計這兩個字齁你們在處理文字的時候要注意 |
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11874.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11878.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
這裏是一間酒店。 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11900.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11903.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11922.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
可以學校的教學及教職對 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
11928.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11934.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
那個他們所在的那個神蹟有嗎?有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有,有, |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11963.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11968.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
現在正在寫文章文章文章文章文章文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
11977.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
11977.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
好,來,來 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
12010.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
好 兄弟们 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
12013.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
12017.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
這座樓居然是一座大廈。這座樓居然是一座大廈。 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
12038.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
12041.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
我們覺得土地歸那個...那個...那個...那個...那個...那個...那個...那個... |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
12070.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
12089.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
這裏有很多不同的雕塑物, 例如雕塑物,雕塑物,雕塑物,雕塑物。 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
12094.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
12099.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
他們等一下直接一分給委員你們有彩色的藝術嗎這邊可以彩色的那更好請給大家彩色的藝術藝術藝術藝術藝術藝術藝術 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
12138.387 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
12166.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
12169.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
12186.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
這裏是不是差不多了?一切公開透露好彎起來,踩著彎起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
12189.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
12199.2 |
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來 彩色列印我們現在要一分完整的結構現在這個我們已經獲得了18條的附帶決議 獲得同意可以修改我們這邊有附帶決議18的附帶決議附帶決議 |
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12214.19 |
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| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
這間餐廳的名字叫做廚師餐廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
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對,是。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
中文字幕 李宗盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
12313.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
12333.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
好,再看看。 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
12360.807 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
多謝您的收看 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
12370.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
12379.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
谢谢大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
12403.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
12415.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
這間餐廳的餐廳是一間餐廳的中間餐廳。這間餐廳是一間餐廳的中間餐廳。 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
12437.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
好,謝謝。 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
12473.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
12507.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
12526.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
12545.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
12557.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
谢谢观看 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
12576.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
12577.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
這裏是一間餐廳。這裏是一間餐廳。 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
12590.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
12594.113 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
謝謝觀看,下次見! |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
12604.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
12627.125 |
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你現在煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮三盤燴的蝦麵都已經熟了嗎?對,煮 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
12650.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
主教主會 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
12659.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
12678.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
12681.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
12708.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
好那大概國發會這邊以及跟相關部會就文字剛剛還沒有處理完的文字有大概一個相關的文字都已經處理好我們是不是先宣讀就包括第4條第6條第18條的文字的修正以及相關的附帶決議我們是不是先一併宣讀市委你剛才說的有包括的嗎 |
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來你們沒有資料這都還要簽名嗎都還沒有簽名好那再等一下 |
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12757.404 |
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這就要修正東西第四條簽好了這些都是第四八條 |
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12780.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
12781.075 |
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這個剛剛處理過了,現在都處理過了 |
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12818.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
12826.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
谢谢观看 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
12841.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
12863.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
響鐘 |
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12887.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
12888.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
感謝 感謝 |
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12924.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
12949.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
12969.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
12969.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
對,應該是3點 |
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| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
13012.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
谢谢大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
13025.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
13052.289 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
OK 好了可以移一步了 |
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13067.014 |
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感谢观看 |
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| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
13122.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
響鐘 |
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13123.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
13152.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
響鐘 |
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| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
13154.606 |
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來我們繼續開會那我們是不是就剛剛的修正條文還沒處理的修正條文以及附帶決議一併宣讀來請宣讀 |
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| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
13183.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
法定人數不足 |
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13220.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
13230.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
第四款 第四目教育部合併設立教授外國專業人才 外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才 |
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子女專班之外國語文以外之學科教師及公司立高級中等以下學校雙語教育所聘請依其專長任教語言及語言以外之藝能及活動等相關領域或科目並協助相關教學及教師研習培訓之教師其餘同行政院提案 |
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13261.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
13287.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
委員蔡宇等所提修正動議第六條外國人取得國內外大學之碩士以上學位或教育部公告世界大學排名前1500名大學之學士以上學位者受聘僱在我國從事就業服務法第46條第一項第一款專門性或技術性工作除應取得職業資格符合一定職業方式及條件者 |
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13288.106 |
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13309.186 |
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及應符合中央目的事業主管機關所定之法令規定外無需具備一定期間工作經驗委員蔡奕宇等所提第18條修正動議 |
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13322.13 |
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| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
第四項第一款外國專業人才及外國特定專業人才在我國就學取得大專校院副學士以上學位者得依下列規定折抵第一項及前項制在我國居留期間依外國專業人才取得博士學位者折抵三年碩士學位兩年學士或副學士學位者折抵一年四者不得合併折抵其餘同行政院提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
憲庭互待決議 第三案一 督導各校招收外國學生應審核財力及語言能力外國學生來臺就學辦法於111年12月修正明定大專校院外國學生招生檢章應詳列招生方式各學系層授課語言學生應具備之語言能力基準財力證明基準等事項 |
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且大專校院辦理外國學生招生事務除宣傳推廣及協助學生辦理來台相關必要程序外不得委由校外機構、法人、團體或個人辦理教育部督導學校與外國學生招生作業使應審查學生需具備一定之語言能力及經濟能力並確認學生來台就學爭議而推動專科以上學校維護外國學生授教權益查核計畫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
教育部自111年起辦理本查核作業自大學校研究招生程序與文件課程與教學品質學生輔導與關懷等面向查核以維護外國學生教學品質及授教權益三 跨部會查核公讀情形教育部如接獲學生涉不當公讀等勞動形式檢舉及函請學校查處並函轉勞動部依權責辦理如果到校實際查核或訪視外國學生時亦要及地方政府 |
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勞動局等同行與學生及學校面談 與如此了解學生公讀情形 如學校未依相關規定辦理處理 教育部將從嚴督導 視情形糾正及從嚴扣減該校招收外國學生名額及獎補助經費四 宣導公讀規定教育部每年舉辦數場次境外學生輔導人員服務素養培訓課程及橋外生座談 持續宣導 |
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境外生就學及畢業後在台公讀規定並請學校應確實關懷公讀學生提案人范瑩 蔡宜 陳昌明 |
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附帶接第四案有關外國專業人才原覽及雇用法第十五條外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才規定之配偶細指外國特定專業人才及外國高級專業人才其本人及配偶皆為外國人者其婚姻之成立須符合社會民事法律適用法第四十六條規定申請人欲來臺依親居留者應檢附經我國駐外管處驗證之結婚證明等文件於入閣後向內政部移民署申請依親居留 |
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附帶決議第五 五案為友善外國專業人才申請及使用外國專業人才延展及雇用法第28條及第29條服務除意向編列以達不排除排擠外國人民群意外請衛生福利部應製作相關英文申請表當或說明以立即申請相關服務提案人范瑩 陳昌明 蔡宜 張祺凱 |
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13546.228 |
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附帶1A第6案有建議曾發生申請人取得金卡號實際入境時其才發現遭管制導致無法入境影響申請人權益及政策執行的一致性請內政部持續滾動檢討優化通報註記流程並以審查系統建立防大衛機制以加強申請人工作及入境紀錄等資料查驗正確性避免類似情形暫時發生令針對外國人免簽來台應參與臨時性活動為申請工作許可而處罰 |
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13573.27 |
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請勞動部檢討相關財法是否應評估比例原則避免造成攬財負面影響文 劉美玲 蔡依 陳昌明提案宣布完畢好那我們開始來處理齁那先處理這一個第四條那第四條如果按照剛剛大家所簽的修正條文文字通過請問大家有異議 |
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好沒有異議就按照修正動議通過來接下來處理第六條那第六條一樣是按照剛剛大家所簽的修正動議來通過請問大家有異議沒有異議的話就按這個修正動議通過 |
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來處理第18條那18條一樣是按照剛剛的修正動議來通過請問大家有異議 |
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好來這個不好意思我們文字上可不可以再做一個建議會更周延就是在剛剛那個第四項的第一款外國專業人才取得博士學位者折抵三年這個都OK然後碩士學位後面我們建議加碩士學位者折抵兩年 |
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13630.58 |
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折抵二年就是漏了折折抵折抵就三個字碩士學位折折抵二年是好謝謝那接下來第二款沒有問題啦第二款好那是不是就按照修正動議然後文字再修正通過好沒有異議的話就按照再修正的文字通過好那附帶決議 |
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第一案第一案有在修正嗎好第一案就按照修正通過來附帶決議第二案請問大家有異議第二案已經通過第三案有異議好沒有異議的話就按照文字通過來附帶決議第四案請問大家有異議 |
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13715.418 |
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沒有異議的話就按照決議文字通過來第5案范雲委員的修正附帶決議好請問大家有異議沒有異議的話就按照附帶決議的文字通過來第6案第6案是羅美玲委員所提的附帶決議請問大家有異議好沒有異議的話也是按照附帶決議文字通過 |
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OK來請宣讀協商結論外國專業人才延展及雇用法修正草案協商結論第一條照行政的提案通過第二條照行政的提案通過第三條照行政的提案通過第四條照委員林黛樺等四人修正動議通過 |
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第五條 照行政提案通過第六條 照委員差異等三人提案通過第七條 照行政提案通過第八條 照行政提案通過第九條 照行政提案通過第十條 照行政提案通過增訂第十一條 照行政提案通過增訂第十二條 照行政提案通過第十三條 照行政提案通過增訂第十四條 照行政提案通過 |
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第15條造行政提案通過第16條造行政提案通過第17條造行政提案通過第18條造委員差異等三人提案修正通過第19條造行政提案通過三族現行法第17條造行政提案通過第20條造行政提案通過第21條造行政提案通過第22條造委員差異等17人提案通過第23條造行政提案通過第24條造行政提案通過 |
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增訂第25條造行政院提案通過第26條造行政院提案通過增訂第27條造行政院提案通過增訂第28條造行政院提案通過增訂第29條造行政院提案通過第30條造行政院提案通過第31條造行政院提案通過第32條造行政院提案通過第33條造行政院提案通過附帶決議第一案 遭案通過第二案 修正通過 |
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第三案 遭案通過第四案 遭案通過第五案 遭案通過第三案 遭案通過 宣讀完畢好 請問各位同仁照剛才宣讀的協商結論通過請問有違議 |
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好沒有異議的話通過討論四項外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案審查完略擬峻審查報告提報院會討論那請問需不需交由黨團協商 |
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那本案因為第22條條文財政部有不同意見那請財政部在協商前可以做妥善的處理那本案就交由黨團協商院會討論時有本席說明通過支條文相關法制用語授權主席及議事人員整理本日議程處理完畢謝謝大家現在散會 |
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多謝您的收看。 |