iVOD / 167887

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IVOD_ID 167887
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167887
日期 2026-03-25
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-20-5
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 5
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 20
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 財政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-25T11:33:55+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-25T11:40:36+08:00
影片長度 00:06:41
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
支援功能[1] gazette
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委員名稱 蔡春綢
委員發言時間 11:33:55 - 11:40:36
會議時間 2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議(事由:邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告,並備質詢。 【3月25日及26日二天一次會】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 請財政部莊部長
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 委員好部長我先自我介紹一下我是衛生課來的我來自芬林北港今天跟部長來討論北港救台
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 去年的5月15日我本黨的主席黃國昌委員有質詢就是我們這一塊地的一個用途
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 那我今天呢就是要來追蹤啦追蹤這一塊土地那已經拆了那我要了解拆了以後呢繼當時呢我們的署長有回復我們的黨主席說是要做停車場嘛那現在是不是繼續還是要做停車場委員是不是請我們曾署長來跟您說明
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 報告委員那個還沒有活化之前因為北港地區有停車的需求我們也有跟政工所聯繫過了就是以先做停車場我知道包括隔壁的那個地方政府的部分也要先做停車使用這個之前你已經有跟我們主席報告過了
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 我們主席執行完之後影片傳到我們北港的時候鄉親一片叫好今天我北上我們鄉親一再矚目這塊地我們一定要理清楚這塊地對北港來講是非常重要我們北港在
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 一千多萬年次來到北港那你這一塊地呢在這裡延宕了20年沒有開發那我們的鄉客尤其是白沙捲媽祖或者是3月19號我們的媽祖遶境人山人海啊然後呢我們都沒有辦法疏散那找不到吃的找不到住的
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 那一塊地在我們北港是商業界的一塊黃金地段那現在呢你們又要把它當作停車場來用那是不是太可惜啊那麼我們現在呢都在做地方創生
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 那最主要就是要經濟活化嘛經濟活化你那一塊地用途那麼好那你現在要沒有好好的規劃它那我要請教一下我們署長那未來你是要怎樣計畫
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 跟委員報告那個土地本來我們有做地上全的標誌就是要做商業的活化使用那當然商業活化就包括有一些小吃店、停車、百貨這些等等它的用途非常的廣但是看起來似乎市場上的需求沒有那麼大所以留標好 市長這樣我知道你們根本就不知道地方的需求嘛
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 毀約啊 做最壞的示範毀約了啊那你們說你們要重新規劃嘛那你現在規劃出來 已經十幾年了這塊DM當了28年 那你現在還在計畫還拿不出來那你這樣 你怎麼叫我回去交代我的鄉民啊
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 報告委員不是我們毀約之前我們跟雲林縣政府合作的時候是要做轉運站後來事實上大家當地包括居民也認為那個地方已經是有交通瓶頸做轉運站也不適合所以轉運站的位置現在也都更換了我們一年有一千多萬人次來到北港進鄉
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 白沙屯今年五十萬人要來到北港怎麼叫做這樣的一個人潮叫轉運站為什麼不適合呢報告來進鄉的大部分都不是搭公共用具大部分都是搭遊覽車我請部長跟署長有空來北港走一走他不是進鄉起床進鄉的散客非常多所以我們希望
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 最後北溪希望財政部跟地方政府能夠協商能夠確保拆除以後土地使用能夠最大化來經濟效益這樣有助於地方創生能夠帶給北港長期有永續的發展還有給有工作機會給年輕人有機會回鄉就業
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 那最後呢我希望財政部呢能夠在提供比較具體符合地方發展的一個利益跟需求的一個招標計畫給本辦好 包委我們會跟縣政府因為他把旁邊的那個舊的建屋也拆掉了事實上那個雙方土地是可以合作一起開發來符合地方的需求那在擬定計畫的過程當中我們也會請那個
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 下一位請嚴寬恒委員質詢
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transcript.gazette[0].text 主席、還有所有的官員所有的同仁,大家午安!
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請財政部莊部長。
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transcript.gazette[2].text 請財政部莊部長。
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transcript.gazette[3].text 委員好。
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transcript.gazette[4].text 部長,我先自我介紹一下,我是從鄉下來的,來自雲林北港,今天要跟部長討論北港舊臺汽客運大樓的問題。
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transcript.gazette[5].text 去年5月15日,本黨主席黃國昌委員有對這塊地的用途提出質詢,當時署長有回復說是要做停車場,我今天就是要來追蹤,這一塊土地已經拆了,我要瞭解的是現在是不是還是繼續要做停車場?
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transcript.gazette[6].text 委員,是不是請曾署長來跟您說明?好。
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transcript.gazette[7].text 報告委員,在還沒有活化之前,因為北港地區有停車的需求,我們也跟鎮公所聯繫過,就是先做停車場,包括隔壁舊的、地方政府部分也要先做停車使用。
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transcript.gazette[8].text 我知道了,這個你之前已經有跟我們主席報告過。
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transcript.gazette[9].text 我們主席質詢完,這個影片傳到北港的時候,鄉親一片叫好。
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transcript.gazette[10].text 今天我北上時,我們鄉親一再囑咐我,這塊地如何使用一定要釐清楚,因為這塊地對北港來講是非常重要的。
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transcript.gazette[11].text 北港是媽祖廟的一個聖地,一年有一千多萬人次來到北港,但是這一塊地在這裡延宕了20年沒有開發,我們的香客、尤其是白沙屯媽祖或者是3月19號我們的媽祖繞境時,那是人山人海啊!
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transcript.gazette[12].text 然後我們都沒有辦法疏散,找不到吃的、找不到住的。
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transcript.gazette[13].text 那塊地在北港是商業街的一塊黃金地段,現在你們卻要把它當作停車場來用,那樣是不是太可惜了啊!
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transcript.gazette[14].text 我們現在都在做地方創生,最主要就是要經濟活化!
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transcript.gazette[15].text 那一塊地的用途那麼好,你們現在卻沒有好好的規劃它。
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transcript.gazette[16].text 我要請教一下署長,未來你們對此有何計畫?
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transcript.gazette[17].text 跟委員報告,本來那塊土地我們有做地上權的標註,就是要做商業的活化使用。
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transcript.gazette[18].text 商業活化當然就包括小吃店、停車、百貨這些等等,用途非常的廣,但是看起來似乎市場上的需求沒有那麼大,所以流標。
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transcript.gazette[19].text 署長,這樣我知道了。
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transcript.gazette[20].text 看來你們根本就不知道地方的需求!
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transcript.gazette[21].text 這一塊地只有北港人、只有雲林縣人、只有我們才知道這塊地需要什麼,你卻說它沒有價值或者是說還沒有達到你剛剛說的。
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transcript.gazette[22].text 雲林縣政府本來已就這一塊地跟你們簽約了要做BOT,後來你們就毀約,做最壞的示範,毀約了!
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transcript.gazette[23].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[23].start 2026-03-25T11:38:08.012000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].guessed
transcript.gazette[23].end 2026-03-25T11:38:17.463000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].text 你們說要重新規劃,你們規劃了十幾年,這一塊地延宕了二十八年,到現在計畫還拿不出來,你這樣叫我回去如何向鄉民交代?
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transcript.gazette[24].speaker 曾署長國基
transcript.gazette[24].start 2026-03-25T11:38:26.874000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].guessed
transcript.gazette[24].end 2026-03-25T11:38:28.975000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].text 報告委員,不是我們毀約!
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transcript.gazette[25].speaker 曾署長國基
transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-03-25T11:38:28.975000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[25].end 2026-03-25T11:38:46.305000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].text 之前我們跟雲林縣政府合作的時候是要做轉運站,後來大家包括當地居民也認為那個地方已經是交通瓶頸,做轉運站也不適合,所以轉運站的位置現在也都更換了。
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transcript.gazette[26].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[26].start 2026-03-25T11:38:47.065000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].guessed
transcript.gazette[26].end 2026-03-25T11:39:02.276000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].text 署長,一年有一千多萬人次來到北港進香,白沙屯今年也有50萬人要來北港,有這樣的人潮,為何說設轉運站不適合?
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transcript.gazette[27].speaker 曾署長國基
transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-03-25T11:39:03.697000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[27].end 2026-03-25T11:39:10.762000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].text 跟委員報告,來進香的人大部分都不是搭公共運具、大部分都是搭遊覽車。
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transcript.gazette[28].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-03-25T11:39:10.762000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].guessed
transcript.gazette[28].end 2026-03-25T11:39:17.748000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].text 我請部長跟署長有空來北港走一走,不是進香期才有人來進香,平時的散客也非常多!
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-03-25T11:39:19.309000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-03-25T11:39:44.650000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 所以本席希望財政部跟地方政府能夠協商,確保拆除以後土地使用能夠經濟效益最大化,這樣才有助於地方創生,然後帶給北港長期永續的一個發展,並提供工作機會給年輕人,讓他們有機會回鄉就業。
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-03-25T11:39:47.652000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[30].end 2026-03-25T11:39:58.779000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 最後,我希望財政部能夠再提供比較具體符合地方發展利益跟需求的招標計畫給本辦。
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 曾署長國基
transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-03-25T11:40:00.761000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[31].end 2026-03-25T11:40:14.630000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].text 報告委員,我們會跟縣政府來協商,因為它把旁邊舊的建物也拆掉了,事實上雙方土地是可以合作一起開發來符合地方的需求,在擬定計畫的過程當中我們也會請公所這邊來參與。
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transcript.gazette[32].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-03-25T11:40:14.630000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[32].text 好,謝謝蔡委員。
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[33].start 2026-03-25T11:40:15.630000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[33].text 好,希望如你所講,然後儘快把計畫給我。
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 曾署長國基
transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-03-25T11:40:16.630000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[34].text 是的,有具體的結果我們再提供給委員。
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 蔡委員春綢
transcript.gazette[35].start 2026-03-25T11:40:17.630000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[35].text 好,謝謝。謝謝。
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transcript.gazette[36].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-03-25T11:40:16.871000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[36].text 下一位請顏寬恒委員質詢。
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