| IVOD_ID |
167885 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167885 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T11:25:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T11:35:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baaefa9a54e625b1a32f2ba03baa58d693134b8922a2b60b811d8a94a20e7e7dac435ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:25:49 - 11:35:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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首先有請我們的國務部長有請國務部長 |
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蔣部長現在不是早安快到中午啦謝謝你我今天仔細看了你這個業務報告寫得非常清楚非常明確真的是可以看的一個業務報告尤其現在經濟發展的階段台灣很幸運剛好抓到AI的機會但是我們又面臨了一個問題那今天我首先要請教你的問題就是關於水的問題 |
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我們麻煩水利,呃,林市長。在這裡面的報告裡面,應用極端氣候,新注水,新供水,降落水,這裡面談到了一個問題。今年的冬季雨量,是75年來最少的。 |
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尤其在新植、寶山水庫、寶一水庫,現在的吸水量降到23、24%左右。新植縣的隔壁就是苗栗縣,以前的百年乾旱, |
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我們的水庫最多,結果我們是減壓供水,還要隔天輪供那現在苗栗縣永和山40.69,明德水庫33.6,梨一潭水庫30.7那梨一潭水庫主要是供應給台中的,其實苗栗用的不多 |
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那我在這個地方,我現在很擔心百年乾旱又要來了,依照這個吸水率,你們應該提早準備,我不希望再發生百年乾旱一樣,被罵到臭頭了,我告訴你。 |
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有沒有可能百年乾旱再來報告委員你掌握得非常的好不是好被人家罵到怕了我跟你講有河山水庫它目前的一個蓄水量確實比往年差 |
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但是他比白人他好很多啦事實上我跟委員報告我們每天都有在掌控這個水清一天檢查有12萬、13萬、45萬那這個部分我們都有掌握我們可以去評估他未來的趨勢我認為苗栗沒有大問題我相信不會有問題啦 |
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泥潭現在偏低現在是看到新池縣的時候就想到苗栗縣兩個公園那我特別要跟委員報告一件很重的事那你們會不會填灌休耕還是休耕的時候填灌你要準備這一區啊是 報告委員會不會其實我們在做一個調度最關鍵的精神就是如果本區 |
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它本身是不足我們不會來做跨區供應像現在苗栗每天供應到新竹有5.5萬噸假設永和山將來越來越枯旱我們就會停止這個供應所以這個是我們的第一個要務那以目前來看永和山 |
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在六月底前應該沒有大問題我們都持續掌控中沒有太大問題六月底以前我們是以六月底來繼續改革那一邊確實鯉魚潭的水庫他的狀況比較偏差所以昨天已經改成綠燈 |
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這個台中改成綠燈就是因為我們離台水庫稍微趨緊那這個我們持續掌控我每次都跟你們在賭賭天氣會不會下雨啦賭有兩次啦不過四月初有兩波啦四月到四月中旬有兩波降我們再期待是 謝謝再來工作報告裡面有關於協志企業請回座林市長因應中東戰事的衝擊啊 |
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那中東戰軍對於國內石化顏料及下游產品的影響非常大部長我有看過你報告但是你的報告到底是不是真的能解決問題昨天我高鐵站碰到一個苗栗鄉親他是做酒精的那個塑膠罐他說現在買不到顏料工廠都不報價 |
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現在民進一帝,多一帝高帝,你告訴我頭就痛,你有沒有什麼解決的方案?真的都不報價,你不要報告寫得很好,確實大的廠商都不報價, |
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我們產業署的同仁事實上都有依依跟這些上游廠商聯絡啦那他們是說供應量還是會持續供應啦也許會少量供應會減少一點點啦不是減少一點點不報價的就是不供給了啦他說要等到失業中期啦現在只會用庫存他們都在擔心啦如果真的是不報價不報價等於不供應啦 |
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委員如果有這個特別案例的話,讓我們知道,我們來協調因為我們還是多方面去問嘛但是怕是掛一漏萬,掛漏萬一的話,讓我們知道這個信息我就直接打電話給你囉,你要幫我協調這個問題我回去跟他們講,我希望他們能解決對,我們可以協調好,署長請回座那台電終於有兩個爛兄爛弟 |
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部長,現在大家最怕斷氣,你覺得會不會斷氣?絕對不會 |
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絕對不會應該不會不會不會很有自信非常有自信那我們大總統講我們天然氣存料已經有14天我們的食油存料有110天煤油存料我們有40幾天那現在核二核三要重新啟動對不對 |
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現在自主安全檢查當中我現在想不到一個問題,我們的總統報告說20320以前台灣不缺電,即使用不到核電,現在突然要啟動這個核電是怎樣?真正的原因到底是什麼? |
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執政的原因是因為大院那個核安法修正以後讓台電公司有這樣的法律意義你們一切都不肯什麼現在肯我是支持核電要重啟的喔好我先聲明這一點但是你們講的原因道理讓我覺得莫名其妙你們的繩子牌勾到很丟丟沒有啦啊真的啊 那個郭部長我跟你講我說你亂講你的繩子牌要把它毀掉我跟你講你部長要下台啊 |
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報告委員因為以前的 |
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核安法就規定嘛只能運轉40年,40年就不能再延但是現在因為法律的修正以後核電要起來真的也是有必要的我只能暗示你們這樣我看你們要啟動核電大概跟這個會稍微有關係啦我是用想的才想我現在再問你,再跟你請教核二核三重新啟動要花多少錢 |
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多少錢現在還沒有辦法完全知道因為他要看自主安全檢查的過程當中那些設備老化的狀況有沒有要更換如果不行要更換那這個錢就要重新算所以現在 陳董事長你台電虧那麼多了現在核二核三又起了你這個錢出得了嗎還是再多不醜錢越多越好我越不怕 |
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你大概要預計如果合二合三啟動要花多少錢 |
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所以剛剛提到的還是要看這個過程才知道我看啦也沒有花上錢以上大概也解決不了所以這筆錢台電虧了那麼多都是政策上的犧牲票啊終於會很可憐你去高價買了那麼多五六條船七八條船一條船虧了那麼多 |
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從台電跟他要一些回來啊還是全部你們吸收我說你們兩個虧錢啊兩個互相掩護啊連連虧那賺錢不是這樣賺的啊沒有中東戰士的話這兩家公司今年理論上這兩家很可憐的董事長啊 |
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572.752 |
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部長你要好好疼惜他,都是為了你們啦我是講真的,本來人才很多,尤其你啟動那個河河山我們以前的河邊人才都被韓國人洗走了我們那段天下來都被洗走了我告訴你,看你的報告,所以這是全都的政策 |
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備而不用嘛隨時要準備有可能突然的事情發生現在在做不為晚兩個董事長要好好把天秀起來反正他們也虧錢啊但是虧錢都為你們我在講都是為了政策的錯誤謝謝好我們謝謝陳昌明委員接下來 |