| IVOD_ID |
167881 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167881 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T11:18:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T11:26:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae6cba027b6eac26a09e5efe6b22224a4d4b8922a2b60b811d6246a27f61d679685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:02 - 11:26:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院人事行政總處人事長列席報告業務概況及立法計畫，並備質詢。
【3月25日及26日兩天一次會】） |
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我們請人事長 |
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委員長委員長你好我現在還是先來問一下有關於烤雞改革的問題因為前段時間很多公務人員覺得輪流吃蟻不公平認為烤雞應該要根據表現因為說有定一個甲等的上限所以就會讓一些新人即便他表現非常好所以他還有可能要吃蟻等到變老鳥之後再換別人吃蟻這個是最近大家討論話題 |
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那我是有看到人事行政總署的回應是說今年會比去年甲等比例來得高那其實你這樣的回應是沒有回應到大家的需求大家是認為如果你不是以表現來定定考積的話是不公平的但你說沒關係我提高一點點那還是會有一株吃漢那 |
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上次我在這邊問考試院考試院是說幫任總講個話因為任總不是考積法的主管機關所以有時候也沒辦法回答他是這樣子講的那任市長你看考試院對你很好那我想我是想請教一下因為新的考積法 |
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目前他們的草案是這樣,可是還沒有final |
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好 還沒有final那還有final所以人事長也可以去提供意見那其實他這樣子改沒有解決到關鍵問題啦在大家的關鍵問題不是說只是把甲乙丙丁把它改個名字而已啊而是說你不能夠按照比例所以我想確認一下他改成優秀是不是就是以前的甲等他的定義跟不一樣對不對不一樣好 那人事長你知不知道公務人員他被打跟甲跟乙的差別是什麼 |
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影響他的烤雞獎金嘛會影響烤雞獎金如果說是定甲等的話烤雞獎金是是一個月是一個月嘛那乙等是半個月乙是半個月嘛那請問一下如果被定之後這樣改完之後優秀那烤雞獎金是幾個月一個月1.3個月那良好是幾個月 |
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所以還是有差嘛還是有差嘛還是有差但是拉上來嘛對不對那有沒有可能一種狀況是因為優秀呢也是比例有上限所以呢即便有一個公務人員表現非常優秀但是就跟他講說因為名額有限你就良好就好了就不要到優秀了下次有機會再給你優秀再給別人良好會不會出現這個狀況 |
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我覺得目前還在討論的過程所以這就是換湯不換藥嘛今天這個問題的核心我先想你要把所有的考金獎金往上拉對公務人員好一點這個當然大家都贊成因為畢竟剛剛我看很多委員在討論說要怎麼把優秀的公務人員留住嘛那你透過考金獎金的提升本來一個月可以變成1.3個月然後半個月變成一個月這都很好 |
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這是一個誘因嘛可是如果說在給誰1.3個月或一個月的過程當中又讓他覺得說為什麼我不能1.3個月相對剝奪感啊還是會造成問題沒有解決啊所以關鍵是不能有比例啊而不是說我把那個名稱換一下我把要給的獎金調高一點這個沒有完全回應到大家的問題啊 |
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我跟委員報告 事實上全系部在訂這樣的一個考計畫的改變的過程中他還在遵循各個機關的一些意見本來有訂所謂的上面是一個固定的百分比嘛那這個百分比到底會不會都會落在某一個值等的檢認的這樣這也是可能大家會疑慮的部分嘛那您的看法咧 |
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我先回憶一下剛才委員在提說我沒把天花板打掉這增加的加等的不多事實上我們現在的主要的考機的核心精神還是要去核實你標緣好你就多吧不要去設限要多少 |
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因為大家一直在懷疑,政府做這一塊到底是用說的還是做出來的,還是怎樣所以我想第一個先是天花板打開,我們有設個樓地板那未來授權各個機關的首長,你要何時去做因為我覺得這樣頂得重 |
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好好好 先生因為我時間快到了你說要把天花板打開那現在就不是這樣嘛你現在的夾等就是有一個上限嘛而且這個東西跟烤雞法無關嘛你人事行政總書一直命令你跟因為今年年底打烤雞的時候你跟所有機關講說以後打夾等不用限制了啦覺得它好你就打你就直接講就好了嘛那你嘴巴上面講說大家要核實喔我天花板打開喔但是我還是定一個上限在那邊 |
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有啦 之前就是75%嘛沒有上線是不是那你公文要發出去喔公文發出去喔 跟所有的對 你公文要發出去因為大家就拿到人事總署的公文啊因為我也問那個公務機關啊我說為什麼你們甲乙就是要這樣比例他說如果沒有這樣的話人事檢驗總署不會過啊 |
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所以你們就是很明確的把公文發下去今年大家打烤雞打假表現好就是假沒有比例限制因為剛剛人事長自己講的嘛謝謝你的核實很空洞嘛就是沒有比例限制你就說沒有比例限制大家不要再誤傳了就沒有比例限制所以這個東西你直接宣誓根本不用修烤雞法 |
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不用修考機把今年年底就馬上可以做了謝謝任市長在我的質詢可以有這麼重大的宣示回應這個大家的期待然後再來我講一個國民旅遊卡現在是一萬六嘛對不對現在還是一萬六嗎還是嘛因為已經非常久沒有調了啦這個你考慮一下我們現在討論的是怎麼樣 |
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多提高一些福利跟待遇留產嘛我覺得國民留產也是蠻多人講的那當初為什麼要一萬六其實很多人都誤會公務人員啊以為公務人員為什麼那麼好出去玩還有這一萬六這不是啦這叫做不休假一種不休假的獎金啊 |
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因為他可能有30天的特休但都沒有休你要給他30天的獎金那時候政府因為財政關係嘛說我強迫你一定要休14天嘛然後補助你一個1萬6其實很多人如果不休那14天他領的比1萬6還要高啦所以這1萬6是一個不休假獎金的補貼所以不是他們 我覺得也不算是福利那這1萬6已經很久沒有調了所以請人事長一併考慮一下 |
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因為物價也漲了您覺得呢上一年有跟行政院一起討論過到目前大概先為止討論拒絕漲的人理由是什麼 |
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沒有啦,就是先維持現狀,然後放寬他的試用範圍試用範圍應該還好啦,大部分人都應該是可以用得完啦這個不是說,當然範圍也OK,但是金額也要提高,這兩回事啦你說討論過,那反對長的意見是什麼?我們會持續來爭取 |
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不然這樣子好不好因為我們時間差不多不想給朝野為難你把上一次討論國民旅遊卡一萬六要不要漲的那個會議的紀錄提供給我我看一下反對的理由然後我下次再來質詢你搞不好有人反對理由是很無厘頭的好不好下次再來質詢請提供這個會議紀錄給我好 謝謝好 謝謝再提供這個會議紀錄給我好 謝謝 |