| IVOD_ID |
167844 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167844 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T09:59:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T10:09:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae5faf8c015b86253d2ba03baa58d693135dcddfbaa3ed0a43c9a64353dbdea2ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:59:04 - 10:09:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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接下來我們請陳婷菲執行 謝謝謝謝主席 我們請部長還有我們台電董事長請台電董事長陳委員長安 |
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部長我想了解一下因為丹奧斯颱風對我們台南真的是整個重創非常嚴重所以大家非常關心我們整個電纜地下化的進度雖然我們有訂了一些重點就是從我們的 |
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台17台19还有我们相关的911那不是在台南市台南市依照的是台17台19那我想了解的现在进度如何 |
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好那個報告委員喔我們基本上針對台南市在推動的相關工作最近都在積極的進行當中那最重要的是今年度我們已經規劃了5.63億元那明年也會規劃9.64億元來執行相關的工作 |
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那這預算是通過所以我們今年會加緊執行這個整個預算大概是18億左右的預算你認為可以解決到我們的問題嗎跟委員報告就是說到目前為止就是說這是年度預算的便利是啊那我們要把它全部做完可能也不會是只有兩年的時間只是說那這兩年完成大概比例是多少 |
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那個跟委員報告就是說如果是以我們自己估計比較脆弱的地方先補的話這一定應該是有超過一半以上的但是後續還會有多少地方可能會被發現出來因為有的時候也會有一些那個因為新的颱風來因為過去像台17線台19線這麼嚴重的狀況事實上我相信委員知道第一次發生這麼嚴重的事第一次發生其實是因為我們把 |
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台17台19列為優先其實我們所期待的是台南他很多地方其實是期待有地下化的可是因為我們的經費不足都把它列為是高空 |
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可是說真的如果我們可以趁這個機會如果在各縣市優先由各縣市願意去配合做地下化的部分你覺得台電應不應該配合我跟委員報告 |
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其實我們在預算以外還有一個就是我們要增加人力那增加人力這個台電已經在跟我們的協助廠商在努力做人力增加的工作就是如果地方政府配合我們當然非常願意一起配合來做這個工作 |
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所以我台電現在在努力做的一個事情就是我們希望能夠有更多的人力準備能夠投入這個相關的工作裡面我想說有些細節如果委員想知道我們可以請同仁或是我們去跟委員做報告重點是我們要把工程能量給他給提升起來 |
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這個就是重點啊你知道嗎現在地方政府未來我都希望台南市可以去配合台電去做很多一些規模式的一些地下化除了我們中央編的預算以外如果地方政府可以來配合議員會支持我相信我們逐步把它做地下化的一個規劃然後第二個是很多 |
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建商他們是希望藉著他們的一些工程然後搭配我們台電像這個我們都應該優先來配合是不是你知道我們規劃每次溝通很久就是如果他是新增的用電戶如果他有一些我們現在我們的區住也有跟這些新增用電戶講說因為你自己本身具有工程能量 |
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是 如果你那一段你可以自己先做那我們可以怎麼樣整個節省工期我覺得應該是要把這樣的訊息給各地方應該給各地方因為每次我們已經溝通很多次了很多的建商他們願意把自己的能量來協助 |
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可是呢因為我們台電常常會說因為這裡是架空窟所以說他們沒有辦法給出這個經費但是如果建商願意來協助我們何不趁這個機會 |
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那我們來跟他協調整個預算的問題我覺得也減低了我們台電的壓力是不是應該這個樣子那個委員我們這樣說我這個方向上我現在第一個增加工班的能量我們會做第二個讓民間的力量能夠進來我們來看用什麼方法來設計因為那有一些權力義務關係我們要把它確定下來沒錯 董事長地下化 |
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未來性地下化本來就是一個未來我們一個城市的發展要讓他怎麼地下化帶動整個城市這才是我們的重要所以這一次因為台南丹納斯颱風之後大家開始面對這個必須去檢討的問題也就是我們要怎麼電纜地下化過去大家認為不會發生的事結果一個颱風把台南整個 |
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吹成這個樣子所以我覺得我們要坦然面對誠實面對而且也不得不面對所以我要拜託我們的部長在這個部分因為剛剛董事長有說到底未來有沒有經費未來的經費到底在哪裡人力到底可不可以配置 |
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我說真的都是未失數所以我們怎麼樣在這個前提當中把它擬定未來現在這兩年沒有問題嘛可是未來呢不知道剛剛董事長也只能說我想未來不會只有這兩年未來還有可是未來的事沒有人敢承擔所以我們希望的是給我們一個方向 |
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到底後年 明年後年還有沒有然後地方的公司合作該怎麼做還有地方政府跟中央怎麼合作現在是五五分嘛 |
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那我覺得你要鼓勵地方應該是要你們出六地方出四然後把這樣的餅做大我覺得這才能有一個誘因所以我覺得這個你們都可以去考量否則現在是五五分嘛五五分說真的中央五地方五地方的預算沒那麼多啊 |
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好那這個部分該怎麼處理所以拜託我們的這個部長應該去做研理的部分謝謝那我想了解我們台糖董事長我們新營糖廠的規劃目前的進度因為我們一直在推我們希望在新營糖廠的部分它是一個很重要的 |
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因為這是吃肉的如果我們能夠把西北地方做成親子還有科技體驗營我相信台糖一定會非常大的獲益所以我想我們現在114年從去年9月完成一個出港然後也已經召開協調會 |
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我們也確定了這個七子共榮跟科技體驗方向的規劃那我想跟董事長瞭解你們預計什麼時候報告委員 這個我們配合市政府對 因為這個還是要市政府但是用台南的土地我們一些facility那一定會配合他我們知道那個那個新一畫面 |
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真的是台塘的最重中心的地方那邊的相關的設施以及土地還有我們的那個汽車廠我們的油品都都在那邊是我們重中之重那當然我們一定這些項目一定要配合市政府的規劃那我們是極力現在基本上 |
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你們的規劃已經有共識了那現在市政府要辦公展還有都市計畫變更的審議那當然這一個區塊我們會去追市政府可是當市政府我覺得應該要同步既然大家有這個共識是希望朝著親子共榮跟科技體驗的方向那你要跟我們講如果市政府這些都已經完成了那你的下一步呢 |
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你要同步啊對我們一定是 |
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在公展及變更審議結束以後我們一定是按照時程立刻採讀更新方式來招商來完成這種事情對 董事長我希望是說你們在它公展還有都市計畫變更審議的同步你們要想如果它審議過了你們要怎麼接續 |
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好 你不要等他完了之後你還要再討論一段時間那就延宕了整個的發展所以應該是現在就討論好 審議完之後我台黨要怎麼進行招商好 你的招商進度要怎麼做我覺得 拜託我需要這樣的時程表同步進行才不會浪費時間好 董事長再拜託部長再拜託 謝謝 |
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好待會 |
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陳委員亭妃 |
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謝謝主席，我們請部長…… |
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主席 |
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請部長。 |
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還有台電董事長。 |
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主席 |
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請台電董事長。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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陳委員，早安。 |
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部長，我想了解一下，因為丹娜絲颱風對臺南真的是重創，非常嚴重，所以大家非常關心我們整個電纜地下化的進度，雖然我們有訂了一些重點，就是台17、台19，還有相關的台9、台11，這不是在臺南市，臺南市的是台17、台19，我想了解的是現在進度如何？ |
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曾董事長文生 |
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可以由我來說明嗎？好，來。 |
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報告委員，基本上，我們針對臺南市推動的相關工作最近都在積極的進行當中，最重要的是今年度我們已經規劃了5.63億元，明年也會規劃9.64億元，來執行相關工作，這個預算是通過的，所以我們今年會加緊執行…… |
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陳委員亭妃 |
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好，這整個預算大概是18億左右，你認為可以解決到我們的問題嗎？ |
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曾董事長文生 |
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跟委員報告，這是年度預算的編列……是啊！ |
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曾董事長文生 |
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我們要把它全部做完可能也不會只有兩年時間……好…… |
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曾董事長文生 |
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只是現在先編這兩年…… |
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2026-03-25T10:00:46.859000+08:00 |
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那這兩年完成的比率大概是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-25T10:00:48.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-25T10:00:56.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
跟委員報告，如果是以我們自己估計，比較脆弱的地方先補的話，應該是有超過一半以上的…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-25T10:00:56.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-25T10:00:57.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
有一半以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-25T10:00:57.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-25T10:01:06.418000+08:00 |
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但是後續可能還會有其他地方會被發現，有的時候會因為新的颱風來，事實上，我相信委員也知道，台17線、台19線第一次發生這麼嚴重的狀況…… |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.804 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-25T10:01:06.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-25T10:01:06.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
第一次發生，其實…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-25T10:01:06.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-25T10:01:07.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
對，所以這個需要滾動來檢討，才會確定。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-25T10:01:06.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-25T10:01:18.326000+08:00 |
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是因為我們把台17、台19列為優先……對。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-25T10:01:19.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-25T10:01:46.444000+08:00 |
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其實我們所期待的是臺南很多地方都地下化，可是因為我們的經費不足，所以都把它列為高空，說真的，如果我們趁這個機會，各縣市願意優先去配合做地下化的部分，你覺得台電應不應該配合？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.924 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-25T10:01:46.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-25T10:02:12.966000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，在預算以外，我們還有一個，就是要增加人力，現在台電已經跟協作廠商在努力做人力增加的工作，如果地方政府配合，我們當然非常願意一起配合來做這個工作，現在台電在努力做的一個事情就是我們希望能夠有更多人力準備投入這個相關工作裡面。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-25T10:02:13.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-25T10:02:21.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
我想這個有些細節，如果委員想知道，我們可以請同仁或是我們去跟委員做報告，重點是我們要把工程能量提升起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-25T10:02:22.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-25T10:02:25.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
這個就是重點，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-25T10:02:27.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-25T10:02:48.252000+08:00 |
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未來我都希望臺南市可以去配合台電做很多規模式的地下化，除了中央編的預算以外，如果地方政府可以來配合，議員會支持，我相信我們可以逐步來做地下化的規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.942 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-25T10:02:48.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:02.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
第二個是很多建商希望藉著他們的工程搭配台電，像這個，我們都應該優先來配合，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:03.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:05.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
你知道我們每次都溝通很久…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:06.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:19.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
跟委員報告，如果他們是新增的用電戶，現在我們的區處也有跟他們講，因為他們自己本身具有工程能量，如果他們那一段可以自己先做，我們可以怎麼樣節省工期…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:19.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:19.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
配合，我覺得…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:19.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:20.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
這個工作，我們會來跟他們討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:19.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:20.070000+08:00 |
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董事長，應該要把這樣的訊息給各地方……好。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:20.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-25T10:03:21.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
應該給各地方，因為我們已經溝通很多次了。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-25T10:03:21.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-25T10:04:00.717000+08:00 |
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很多建商願意用自己的能量來協助，可是台電常常會說，因為這裡是架空區，所以台電沒辦法多出這個經費，但是如果建商願意來協助，我們何不趁這個機會跟他們協調整個預算的問題，我覺得這也減低了台電的壓力，是不是應該這個樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.908 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-25T10:04:01.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-25T10:04:12.183000+08:00 |
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委員，我們這樣說，在這個方向上，第一個、增加工班的能量，我們會做；第二個、讓民間的力量能夠進來，我們看用什麼方法來設計。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-25T10:04:12.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-25T10:04:14.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
因為那有一些權利義務關係，我們要把它確定下來。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-25T10:04:14.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-25T10:04:29.616000+08:00 |
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沒錯，董事長，地下化具未來性，地下化本來就是未來，一個城市的發展要看怎麼讓它以地下化來帶動整個城市，這才是我們重要的…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-25T10:04:29.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-25T10:04:31.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
對，現在…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-25T10:04:31.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-25T10:05:21.533000+08:00 |
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這一次臺南受到丹娜絲颱風重創之後，大家開始面對這個必須去檢討的問題，也就是我們要怎麼把電纜地下化，過去大家認為不會發生的事，結果一個颱風把臺南整個吹成這個樣子，所以我覺得我們要坦然面對、誠實面對，而且也不得不面對，所以我要拜託我們的部長，在這個部分，因為剛剛董事長有說到底未來有沒有經費、未來的經費到底在哪裡、人力到底可不可以配置，我說真的都是未知數，所以我們怎麼樣在這個前提當中把它擬定，現在這兩年沒有問題嘛，可是未來呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-25T10:05:22.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-25T10:06:06.409000+08:00 |
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不知道，剛剛董事長也只能說，我想未來不會只有這兩年，未來還有，可是未來的事沒有人敢承擔，所以我們希望的是給我們一個方向，到底明年、後年還有沒有，然後地方的公私合作該怎麼做，還有地方政府跟中央怎麼合作，現在是五、五分嘛，我覺得你要鼓勵地方，應該是你們出六、地方出四，然後把這樣的餅做大，我覺得這才能有一個誘因，我覺得這個你們都可以去考量。好的。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-25T10:06:07.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-25T10:06:22.363000+08:00 |
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否則現在是五、五分嘛，五、五分，說真的中央五、地方五，地方的預算沒那麼多，這個部分該怎麼處理，要拜託部長應該去做研擬的部分。好的。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-25T10:06:22.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-25T10:06:51.652000+08:00 |
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請問台糖董事長，我想了解我們新營糖廠的規劃、目前的進度，因為我們一直在推新營糖廠的部分，因為它是一個很重要的……因為這是一塊「正肉地」，如果我們能夠把西北地方做成親子還有科技體驗營，我相信台糖一定會有非常大的獲益。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-25T10:06:56.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-25T10:07:13.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
去（114）年9月完成初稿，也已經召開協調會，我們也確定了這個親子共融跟科技體驗方向的規劃，我想跟董事長了解一下，你們預計什麼時候？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-25T10:07:15.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-25T10:07:16.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
報告委員，這個我們會配合…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-25T10:07:17.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-25T10:07:18.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
市政府？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-25T10:07:19.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-25T10:07:48.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
對，因為這個還是要市政府規劃，但會是用台糖的土地、我們的一些facility，一定會配合它，我們知道新營方面真的是台糖最中心的地方，那邊相關的設施以及土地還有我們的畜殖場、我們的油品都在那邊，是我們重中之重，這些項目一定要配合市政府的規劃，我們是極力配合…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.863 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-25T10:07:49.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-25T10:07:52.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
現在基本上，你們的規劃已經有共識了嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-25T10:07:54.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-25T10:08:18.949000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
現在市政府要辦公展還有都市計畫變更的審議，當然這一個區塊我們會去追市政府，可是我覺得應該要同步，既然大家有這個共識，是希望朝著親子共融跟科技體驗的方向，那你要跟我們講，如果市政府這些都已經完成了，那你的下一步呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.99 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-25T10:08:20.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-25T10:08:21.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
你要同步啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-25T10:08:21.598000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-25T10:08:36.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
對，在公展及變更審議結束以後，我們一定是按照這個時程，立刻採都市更新方式招商，來完成這件事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.881 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-25T10:08:37.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-25T10:09:09.986000+08:00 |
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對，董事長，我希望你們在它公展還有都市計畫變更審議時要同步，你們要想，如果它審議過了，你們要怎麼接續，你不要等它完了之後，還要再討論一段時間，那就延宕了整個發展，所以應該是現在就討論，審議完之後，台糖要怎麼進行招商，你的招商進度要怎麼做，拜託！ |
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0.954 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:09.986000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:17.212000+08:00 |
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我需要這樣的時程表，同步進行，才不會浪費時間，再拜託董事長、再拜託部長，謝謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:21.674000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:21.674000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:22.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:27.031143+08:00 |
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待會謝衣鳯委員質詢完畢之後休息10分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.118 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:27.331143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-25T10:09:29.902571+08:00 |
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接下來請鍾佳濱委員。 |
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0 |