iVOD / 167794

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IVOD_ID 167794
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167794
日期 2026-03-23
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-15-3
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 3
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-23T12:01:55+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-23T12:09:45+08:00
影片長度 00:07:50
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 洪孟楷
委員發言時間 12:01:55 - 12:09:45
會議時間 2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。二、審查人民請願案9案。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席謝謝好主席謝謝麻煩請邱主委麻煩邱主委
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 我們開會到現在也有一些紛擾但還是一樣 主委你站上備詢台就應該要尊重立法委員的質詢的權益所以我先開宗明義想請教我們到底現在台灣我們現在有多少陸配取得中華民國身份證取得我們定居的身份有14萬5千多人
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 14萬5千多位陸配是有中華民國身份證是不是那其中有14萬多人那有哪一位可以放棄中國國籍的陸配
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 就我們陸委會或是海基會的工作我們兩岸條例就只有處理戶籍的問題沒有處理國籍的問題對於陸配最了解的就是陸委會嘛是嘛那我只是想問是說你以前就已經受訪過就是說無人能夠完成放棄中國籍
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 那現在這個數字有沒有變化有沒有人因為說我們陸委會或說最近在紛紛擾擾然後讓陸配能夠去放棄中國籍有沒有跟委員報告放棄中國籍我覺得依照中國大陸國籍法的程序一句話
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 我們手上是沒有放棄成功的例子但是我們覺得陸培應該要努力去放棄如果他要參選公職再來沒關係你已經回答了再來陸委會有講說世界各國有一些國家憲法是不准國民放棄國旗譬如說墨西哥阿根廷等等但是我們
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 在相關中華民國法令裡面我們有兩岸人民關係條例陸配可以參政最主要是為什麼是因為兩岸人民關係條例是我們規範的我想請教一下阿根廷墨西哥等這些國家他們有特殊的條例嗎在我們國家我們有沒有說在阿根廷啦墨西哥啦你們舉的例子有沒有什麼條例是可以讓他們說沒有辦法放棄國籍但他們可以有參政權
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 跟委員報告您指的這些不能放棄國家的國民如果規劃成為中華民國的國民的話他們能不能參政?他們本來就不能參政他們也不能參政嘛那為什麼陸配可以參政?
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 陸配有兩岸人民關係條例來給予也是立法院三讀通過的法例我們陸配參政的這個條文在兩岸關係條例是第21條簡單講他要住滿10年他要住滿10年 完整的身份轉換住滿10年剛剛我們的召委已經有質詢你你也沒有辦法有一些溯及既往部分你也沒有辦法回答
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 好 那我再請教所以現在陸委會今天李貞秀委員她站上這個諮詢台她有中選會頒發的當選證書她在我們我國的大法官見證下宣誓就職那現在到底你們陸委會的認定李貞秀委員有沒有符合有沒有擁有我們中華民國的立法委員的資格跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 我們立委會當然我們尊重不是尊重啊我現在是要問你說你們認定我知道李征秀委員有沒有中華民國委員的資格
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 呃 沒有沒有至少我認為我現在就是依照兩岸條例他沒有參選的資格他有參選資格你認為是說他沒有中華民國立法委員的資格來他沒有參選資格這一間這一間辦公室這一間委員會叫內政委員會我覺得如果說這樣的話民進黨政府要不要先打一架內部先溝通一下
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 陸委會 我剛剛已經問了 主委講是說李貞秀委員他目前陸委會認定我們主委認定他沒有中華民國立法委員的資格可是中選會已經給他當選證書中選會也讓大法官來宣誓就職所以陸委會要不要出句公文給中選會要中選會取消他的資格黃委員我們是就法論法就是就法論法啊所以我才想要問你們我們就是說他不符合兩岸條例的參選資格
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 主委心平氣和我現在只是想講是說那這樣子入委會既然入委會已經認定是說他沒有這個資格中選會把他認定那這樣就是入委會跟中選會兩個互相的打架囉跟委員報告齁就在李貞秀女士啊她
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 所以什麼時候我們中選會我們陸委會要發出相關的公文陸委會什麼時候會發出相關的公文給中選會跟中選會講是說我們李貞秀委員她沒有中華民國立法委員的資格
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 他違反兩岸條例21條我們有去跟中選會我親自也去拜訪中選會當然我們也有給他們公文那新任的主委上任後我想我們也需要具備相關的這些事實證據提供給中選會很實在話講啦大家真的都在看
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 本席身為中華民國立法委員之一113席每一位都是民意代表我們面對的行政部門我們希望的是行政部門開大門走大路我們希望是行政部門依法行政我們希望是行政部門可以真真正正的了解主流民意
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 但是過去到現在我們看到民進黨政府依法三讀通過的法令不執行恣意的解釋法令還有到現在陸委會應該是站在兩岸人民關係條例因為陸委會存在一個很重要的位階就是因為兩岸人民關係條例才有陸委會的存在如果說都沒有辦法捍衛台灣跟中國大陸兩邊的關係
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 我覺得中華民國我們相對來講未來的憲政體制會越走越窄這一點是我給主委的一個忠告我們私下有很多場合有些時候都會碰到面但我必須要講的是站在這個主委的位置上面就應該要從一而終這才是真真正正為中華民國全體國人服務謝謝洪委員我們就是依法行政我們就匡正違法謝謝