| IVOD_ID |
167793 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167793 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-23T11:52:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-23T12:01:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fac85a1267872a8ada7dd93320840c8478568ba5efa48cb629cbc3a6108f1e63563cb0ca640d278f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:40 - 12:01:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查人民請願案9案。） |
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下一位我們有請廖先祥召委質詢謝謝謝謝主席麻煩邀請我們邱主委請邱所政邱主委謝謝 |
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主委你好 這個上禮拜五我們立法院的院會其實有一個議題我也有上新聞啦就是有很多的委員在院會喊台灣中國一邊一國那我不是問您說您的立場怎麼樣您的立場 您的個人主觀意志沒關係我要問的是說因為剛剛有委員問主委說現在兩岸關係是什麼關係您就說兩岸是兩岸關係嘛那既然是兩岸關係那如果說立法院有委員想要推動台灣中國一邊一國的話 |
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那我們的憲政的架構或者是我們的中華民國法律要怎麼樣子的去調整我覺得您可以給一些意見給您可以提一些意見給這些倡議台灣中國一邊一國的立委因為他們其實是有權利來做這樣的修法那在這樣子的憲政法律架構下是要怎麼調整這樣子 |
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我想我們立委要推動各種立法我們從民主政治原則基本上都給予尊重但是因為兩岸的問題複雜敏感微妙而關鍵那我們作為這個在亞太地區一個維持穩定和平繁榮的這個角色我們向來 |
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推動各種重大的法案除了我們內部要有國人堅定的支持要朝野有共識那也要符合國際社會的期待單純請教在我們的憲政法律的架構下 |
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要怎麼做要怎麼修法才能夠真的如同他們所倡議的去推動我想說您可以給這些委員一些意見而不是說或許有些人嘴巴講講不知道怎麼去推動那我們可以讓他們支援跟我們的做可以有一致的一個做法這樣子您可以給一些指導不敢 |
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我覺得我們是一個主權國家,我們都依照法定程序來推動當然我們是一個民主的社會,這個朝野要有共識,這是最重要的我會說如果委員想推的話,假設我現在想推,或某個委員想推那我們大概是按哪一個憲法的條文,或法律的條文需要去做修正呢? |
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我想您剛剛所說的那個當然會噴出到憲法的修正是 還有哪一條什麼樣的文字需要去做修正呢可以給委員一些意見嗎我們以後也可以給他建議啊如果有涉及到兩條列修正我們陸委會職責所在一定會提供很多相關的資訊沒有問題所以就是 沒關係你可能好像不太方便給立法院一些指導嘛 |
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那如果說有委員提的話你們再提一些意見是不是是是好那沒關係沒關係那看來你好像不太願意回答這個問題啦好那這個回到現在很這個非常熱的話題嘛那當然就是李政秀委員的議題啦那我不是問您的立場怎麼樣我在問說我們陸配在去年的時候普遍就是因為單一戶籍的問題那去年我們陸委會也非常的積極在協助這些陸配去讓他們補辦嘛 |
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那我問一下如果這些陸配因為我們要行使中華民國國民的權利的時候要拿到身份證行使享受權利跟義務的時候就必須要放棄戶籍嘛但是很多陸配他是在2025年他才放棄戶籍的對不對在去年我們輔導了非常多那如果這些陸配在2025年之前行使的權利這部分我們陸委會是怎麼做認定的呢是 |
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基本上我們就尊重已經發生的事實不過我倒是可以跟委員報告我們為什麼會有這個政策因為我們的疫情比較長 長達三年我們結婚的陸配 我們一年還有五千位那他們呢 沒辦法去中國大陸放棄他戶籍那麼把註銷戶籍證明拿回來 |
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因為那時候疫情我們不可能說中國大陸疫情那麼嚴重我們很不人道的說不行你一定要三個月追所以主委的意思是已經發生過的事情就發生了我們也不會去追究那李貞秀委員的問題他已經就職了我們當初為什麼會有這個專案 |
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是從那個要解決我們疫情期間沒辦法去補辦不只疫情期間嘛很多陸配都是十多年二十多年嘛對不對那他們過去所行使的一些權利或者義務都已經可能已經塵埃落定了甚至我舉個例投票好了票也投啦那過去那些票難度你要收回來嗎我想應該也不太可能這樣子去主張嘛 |
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那同樣除非法院有做相關的一個判決那才可能去推翻過去的一些行政的程序的一個完備我們可能需要透過法院那一樣的我們李政秀委員就職了那您說不溯及既往那為什麼就單單就李政秀委員這個案子我們認為說應該要溯及既往 |
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我們沒有涉及紀委 它是因為法律明定在那一邊至於委員說這涉及很多人啊 他們投票行為怎麼樣啊因為這個都不法分割我們在釋法性當初要發動這個專案讓大家有機會來維持它在法律上的合法地位一方面是我們常常說要給陸配一個安居樂業的我們都要補救嘛 我知道你們都要補救嘛 |
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對 但是我們針對這個法律問題我們也有而是我們認為這是我們要去面對 要去解決我們做了一個補救的一個措施過去很多行政機關已經做了行政處分原則上我們就既往不咎嘛 對不對 |
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是這樣的概念嘛對不對剛剛主委您講的既往不咎那就是行政處分已經生效的話那我們既往不咎那李貞秀委員她也已經完成了就職的行政程序啊那為什麼我們不是因為我們自己對法院那個法定的理解而去 |
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用自己的意識去推翻這一個行政程序我了解委員的意思但是我們兩岸條例因為非常清楚的規定這個第九條之一你如果擁有中國大陸的戶籍那你就會喪失我們台灣的戶籍還有因為這個戶籍所衍生的權利那李貞秀女士她就是沒有遇到兩岸條例的狀態參選資格或就職的問題我今天舉一個實際的例子好了 |
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一個里長過去有發生一些新聞里長比較可能發生同票同票的情況最後抽籤嘛可能最後差一兩票也有可能這樣子的情形那最後如果我們發現說有一個陸配他其實當初是沒有這樣子的一個投票資格的時候 |
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那現在我們要去追究嗎有 委員跟您報告如果我們的陸配因為從我們剛剛講的法律如果他的身份沒有放棄中國大陸戶籍有人說他有雙重身份我們移民署就把他台灣人的身份對 那是一個行政曲線啊對不對 我跟你說已經發生了他已經去投票了 |
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或者是說中選會已經發投票通知書給他的突然這個選務人員說我知道你有雙同戶籍你不能投票怎麼讓他投嗎因為這個部分真的沒辦法切割你也不知道要投給誰你無法去追溯所以這個在過去的法律上法律的判決上都有這個所以追溯就會有這個問題 |
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追溯會有過去你剛剛講無法切割的問題那有去推翻過去行政處分的一個問題那一樣的李貞孝委員他也有一個推翻行政處分的一個問題在我們可不可以憑自己的對法令的理解去推翻行政處分好不好我知道這邊沒有辦法達成共識但是我覺得中華民國 |
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立法行政就職的程序已經完備了那如果他不是立法委員的話就必須要有一個解職的程序來完成他才不是立法委員我覺得委員說他有沒有信賴保護啊就我們這個例子李森修的例子沒有信賴保護的問題我們有做了很多法律的研究沒關係就千千總的記仰不就這一個會救沒有因為只有他參選立委而已謝謝主委 |