| IVOD_ID |
167791 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167791 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-23T11:35:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-23T11:42:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fac85a1267872a8a436816d99b5c9bc778568ba5efa48cb629cbc3a6108f1e63c0690458ce51f1dd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:05 - 11:42:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查人民請願案9案。） |
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謝謝,有請邱主委麻煩邱主委 |
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主委辛苦,我想陸委會的工作實在是非常的辛苦我想要先從左院長訪日這個行程來先跟你談起那從左院長可以成功到日本為台灣隊加油其實那一刻我也在場,我是非常感動的因為我知道這背後有太多太多人不能講的努力 |
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包含這個整個包機的過程包含出境整個過程都不能驚擾到中共的敏感神經我曾經在高雄市政府服務的時候那個時候的城局市長他其實在出訪的時候也會邀國民黨的議員一同然後看看這次出訪這些內容結果發生了一件事情有一個國民黨的議員我也不知道是誰啦 |
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跑去跟中國時報的記者說陳菊這一次去古巴有可能會看到卡斯楚結果那一天我在邁阿密跟陳菊前市長飛到哈瓦那的時候我排隊排在他後面過不去了 |
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中共看到媒體報導之後會採取的任何動作即使去到中南美洲影響力還在那這就是左院長這一趟行程為什麼要保密的原因那我也看到為什麼 |
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當左院長踏上這個東京巨蛋的時候國台辦第一時間馬上跳出來的這些反應主委你有意識到嗎?你事前知道嗎?那我們要怎麼因應? |
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是 我想我們包括卓院長的外交突破做了很多保密的工作一方面不要讓我們相對的國家為難 二方面又能夠突破 這意義重大那重點是中國大陸現在還是無所不用其極 |
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來外交打壓 外交封鎖我們所以現在外交突破的工作國人都應該要來支持 全力的來支持所以你對國台辦的回應 你有什麼回應我想兩岸關係最主要的障礙就是中共不願意正視中華民國存在的客觀事實 |
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他不願意在國際間能夠尊重中華民國做一個國家對外進行交往的權利他說權利在封殺 |
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目前他也透過不管雙邊多邊能夠形塑所謂國際一中持續在打壓台灣的生存台灣的國家主權象徵等等確實我們陸委會常常跟外交部說我們面臨的壓力本質都是相同的 |
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那我們絕對不棄餒我們繼續來突破好 身為執政黨還有身為覺得如果我們台灣身為台灣人民我覺得我們的行政院長可以踏上日本那在雙方有默契的情況下讓這件事情成行我覺得應該是給予鼓勵很遺憾我們的在野黨全部都在譴責很遺憾我們的在野黨全部都用各種方法的在挑骨頭這我們表示非常遺憾另外 |
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262.749 |
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我要講一個事實存在的觀點主委你剛講得很清楚李貞秀女士沒有辦法放棄中國國籍的原因沒有辦法放棄中國國籍是誰的原因我想是中國大陸政府阻撓她為什麼中國大陸政府為什麼要這樣我講給你聽中國政府 |
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堅持不會讓他放棄國籍的原因其實就是要造成一個事實跟早上民眾黨要合法掩護非法一樣他要造成一個有中國戶籍、中國國籍的人站在立法院的立法委員的講台上他造成這個事實他讓國際看讓國際看,你看 |
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這台灣的立法院我們中國人也是成功站上去了那所以我為什麼在擔任召委的時候我會尊重行政院可以不用尋答我想要在國際上也讓國際的友人也讓國際知道台灣是民主法治針對中國想要造成既定事實我們沒有接受來 主委這一個既定事實你接受嗎 |
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340.184 |
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跟委員報告修正一下我們不能讓它成為既定事實主委你要怎麼做我們就是依法行政我們剛剛講到不管是它現在不具備有兩岸條例參選的資格之外剛剛您特別強調它也沒有照我們國際法的要求落實對中華民國單一效忠的義務 |
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所以他是雙重違法在這種情況底下我們今天我們就是依法行政我們沒有辦法接受一個不具備立委資格的人對行政官員進行質詢我們認為合法的立委才具有憲法的質詢權好另外我再重述為什麼針對李貞秀的女士的所知我們不能配合的原因 |
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台上七分鐘台下七個小時他可以做什麼台上七分鐘他可以捍衛自己認為是中國沒有辦法給他放棄國籍的身份不是他的原因台下七個小時他可以跟內政部索取國土安全之關鍵基礎設施他可以跟進管陸出境管理局 |
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來要求這些所謂的監控名單他可以跟警政署、維安特勤要索資讓國家元首、讓國家首長可能都遭遇危險他可以索資要求這些敏感地區他可以對海委會、海巡署索資要求海域情資、細思而且他要求這些內容如果提供的話他又將面對中國包含反間諜法、國安法 |
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他是會被 欸 沈伯陽委員那麼明確效忠台灣中華民國他也會被跨海通緝 何況是李貞秀女士啊秦 李 法 我們都不可以同意是 委員我們很贊成因為任何人只要沒有放棄對岸的國籍按照中共的國家安全法 國家情報法 反間諜法他就必須配合中共收集情報所以這個對他而言 他 |
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要不然他違反中共的法律拒絕收集台灣情報那要不然就違反台灣的法律來洩漏我們國家的機密所以這個不管怎麼樣都是無法落實對台灣和中國民國的單一傳統 |