| IVOD_ID |
167778 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167778 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-35,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-23T11:43:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-23T11:56:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fac85a1267872a8a06218ab8ee7439293e8ac6646e11c8ecd7f21695b503ffebb5955a0c0d9861e65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:51 - 11:56:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查：一、行政院函請審議「強化防衛韌性及不對稱戰力計畫採購特別條例草案」案。二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「保衛國家安全及強化不對稱戰力計畫採購特別條例草案」案。三、本院國民黨黨團擬具「強化國防及對美軍事採購特別條例草案」案。(3月23日、3月25
日及26日三天一次會)） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩部長請鼓掌 |
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部長長在進到特別條例之前我有兩個比較小的問題先就教於您第一個是我們八軍團的夭夭拐女說掉了將近八千發的空彈殼那這個事情新聞有報了我看到也是八軍團跟陸軍直接喊請移請高雄地檢署偵辦所以我是肯定不要有錯誤不要隱瞞 |
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面對錯誤才能糾正錯誤我今天要問的題目不在於這個短掃7900發的空彈殼我是要請教一個問題2024年的1月9號當時訓次室劉聖摩開了一個記者會 |
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說我們現在為了強化訓練實彈射擊量變大所以實地實務實作以及實戰化訓練來做考量有關射擊訓練啦各部隊啦轉換動作移動如果彈殼散滿地 |
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找不到的話就別找了就填個表單把它除帳就好當時有開一個記者會就不用再滿地找地當然還是要收回來但找不到我就填個表單把它除帳免除了當時大家認為這是一個減輕國軍負擔的一個德政我現在把這兩件事情都在一起問 |
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既然有除障制度那跟八軍團夭夭拐驢這一次掉了快八箱的打完的空彈殼這兩個事件的本質上的差別在哪裡怎麼還會既然可以除障了怎麼還會有這個問題 |
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包委員 簡單的說這個事情陸軍事件部在調查的時候也有去做一個了解也就是說實戰化的要求目前我們仍然是按照這樣做那但是它也有一個合理的長數跟比例那目前我們跟這個短掃的空彈殼的數量來看它兩者之間沒有決然的關聯性所以這個事件的本質在於我如果這一場這個部隊我拉出一打法 |
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那打了一千發結果掉了兩百發或一百多發的空彈殼啦以前的話都要找到現在是找不到填表單儲帳是而這一次11拐鋁的事件是短時間內大量整批的不見目前掌握是這樣那如果快七八千發的空彈殼是蠻重的喔 |
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他現在主要是跟藏籍的資料不符,我們要再去檢視一下空彈殼的數量,何以會跟藏籍的登載不符,但是我們還是有 |
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如果原來是查帳籍那是行政調查我看到你們的動作是直接丟給高雄地檢署我們自己也要做調查提醒國防部一件事情就是說既然在2024年的1月份我們有一個 |
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新的揭示 就是對於這空彈殼因為以前我們自己打法知道你要統統找回來要花很多時間我們有個儲帳制度這到底是一個帳的累積到一個量他只是沒有去登記表單儲帳累積到這麼大的量還是像剛才參謀長所說的 |
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這不一樣這個違反了這個常識跟比例原則太大量的突然間不見這個本質上是有差異的我是希望不要因為這樣子原來你們當時這個申報除障免除去撿找到百分之百空彈殼這個東西不要再走回頭路了其實美軍是沒有在撿彈殼的是 我想我知道委員的關切所以在這一個事情發生的時候我也是了解那我們想我們這一個有關那個 |
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呃 |
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原來的那個機制我們想我們還是會存續的我們軍方的習慣是除了一個問題就多一個新規定要減輕一個東西就多了一張表單就越填越多減量啦第二個我要請教我們昨天看到在美西時間17號接裝了兩架MQ-9B高空的無人機那我這問題也很簡單高空無人機的飛行員他還是叫pilot或者操作員 |
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跟一般無人機的飛手一般無人機可能是小型的可能是巡飛彈的或者自殺無人機的我們在現在目前國防部對這兩種操作人員的定義是否一樣因為定義衍生出來的專業家級是不是雷同 |
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先跟委員報告,我們現在編程的無人機大隊也因為這個編裝的調整,我們跟人事總署已經爭取了,所以我們現在是無人機大隊也列入戰鬥部隊的一個佳績但是它有沒有飛行佳績? |
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無人機的部分嘛小型的中小型的無人機高空的無人機的部分沒有有沒有飛行加急因為這也是我們國軍第一次接收到這樣的一個裝備所以說我們有把它初期納到跟其他的戰鬥勤務加急是一樣的這個戰鬥勤務加急這一題我們將來還有專報的時候可以來討論我給部長跟我們各軍總參考一下第一個先把定義弄清楚 |
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FPV啊彈簧刀啊 |
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這個Jump 20啦這種一般的無人機的飛手你們現在設定的是領無人機的戰鬥家體領戰鬥部隊的戰鬥部隊家體但是去開MQ-9B這種高空無人機在美方是認定他是一個飛行員而我們現在不管是入航的直升機的飛行員因為我們現在有一些要淘汰人又會釋放出來他還是飛行員 |
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所以高空無人機 軍規的高空無人機應該還是要有飛行員的加級你可以增加一個類 我們現在兩類嘛你可以增加第三類別這是尊嚴 這也是知己就我本來是開飛機的 我現在去操作無人機我變成領戰鬥加級 而不是飛行加級我相信參謀長應該理解這個對一個飛行員的尊嚴也好對他實質的所得也好對鼓勵流用來講 都會有影響甚至於連服裝 |
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美軍在開在駕駛這些高空無人機的是穿飛行服我們現在要他穿的是野戰的作戰的作業服這些都要納入考量我提供建議就是說對於無人機類別要區分開來高空作業的無人機他是不是定義為飛行員著飛行裝加擠未必要像有人飛機的加擠這麼高但是我們可以 |
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增加第三類別因為這是未來其實它是現在式現在這種無人機的操作員各國都在增加所以我們如果一視同仁從海軍陸戰隊的飛手陸軍的飛手到高空無人機的飛行員都視為同一個類別的話留不住人才我坦白講我就到民間去開直升機就好我幹嘛留在這邊變成領這個佳績我相信部長跟董事長聽得懂我意思啦這個給部裡面建議那我現在請教 |
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我們一般在所謂的預算的特別條例其實它就是最重要的條例就三個條文第一個條文叫做屋頂我給你多少上限不管是治水的特別條例基礎建設的特別條例或我們以前的F16V的特別條例上限多少 |
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第二個條例的在這條文裡面的第二個重點是用途適用什麼範圍像我們的前瞻基礎建設裡面叫做綠素水稻香綠能啊數位差距啦那個水的改善跟治水啦 |
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道路、鐵道建設、城鄉差距它會界定一個範圍因為條例本身不會去處理預算的細項是根據條例通過之後才來編列預算在這個範圍裡面框住而特別條例的第三個重點叫做年限 |
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為什麼特別條例要有年限否則就放在年度預算就好了我是三年期像我們的公路這個叫做都市生活圈道路是四年五年一期因為他要跨年度去規劃他要累積的所以我們這個是八年所以我第一個要請教這一個部長我們的預算1.25兆是怎麼計算出來的怎麼得到這個數據的 |
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因為我們在專案報告裡面已經有提出我們整體的規劃那細部的這個要籌購的這些項目那麼有一些是還機密的有一些是可以公開的所以我們上次也在委會做過全面的一個機密專報所以那個就有比較充分我們能夠有一個 |
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比較充分的一個機會所以我這樣講對不對這1.25兆其實是經過不管是賓整或者跟台美之間的磋商溝通他是有具體的項目需求加起來才有這1.25兆的數字而不是框個數字在那邊以後慢慢花對然後 |
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就跟委員講的我們已經有一個規劃那這規劃也做過精密總部有一個完整的規劃那現在這是一個上限嘛那我們接下來就如同委員剛剛講的我們還要把每一個預算的拿過來很多人把這個上限當作就是預算的其實特別條例通過之後還要編列預算進來審查嘛對對那就你的預算的金額 |
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不能夠超過這個上限但事實上每個預算那你用途的範圍可不可以大方向講因為我相信就算在野黨我們可以其實就本著需求來好好溝通如果這些預算的上限是經過計算出來的項目確實是我們國家安全所需要的我覺得在我們國防委員會這個東西沒有黨派之分的啦那第二個就是說用在哪些方向對美採購是其中一項而已你們主要的用途有哪幾大類 |
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663.221 |
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跟委員報告一個,我剛剛在黃仁委員在講的時候,我大概有提出金融五號,我可以公開的部分我現在先講,M109A7嘛那遠程金融打擊,非常就是海馬式多管火箭嘛那麼無人載具跟它的反制系統,這個可以公開現在部分,當然還有包括國內的商購跟委制部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
664.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
692.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
一個就是反甲型的無人機的配彈型這個Artis 700然後還有這個Artis 600SR你現在講的是項目啦我講的用途範圍大概就是精準火藥跟它的載台還有我們的不對稱戰力的建構還有我們的台灣盾就是防空能力的整合提升然後另外因為這些彈藥什麼很多需要在台灣產製所以有台灣的產線台灣無人機的製造你大概有幾個大的範圍就是我們特別條例裡面列的這幾個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
694.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
715.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
所以我真的因為時間關係我們未來這三天會好好來討論這個條例其實特別條例只處理預算上限年限跟用途範圍這裡面不會去處理說你要買哪個細項不是寫在條例裡面的因為項目在預算編列還會出來而條例通過之後編列的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
716.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
732.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
不管是細項說明審查甚至於未來的決算其實跟年度預算是相同的方式還要再送大約審查對 還是要送大約審查啦就預算是預算條例是條例條例是授予編列預算的法源那我們希望這一次的聯席審查因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
734.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
762.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
八年有他的急迫性有他的需要性如果變成年年來審查變成年度預算就好了所以在國防預算聯審財政委員會我覺得我們希望我們不管是什麼政黨其實我們照顧的人民是同一群人就是中華民國這個範圍內每個人的安全這沒有黨派的分別我們希望1.25兆基於不管是兵整計畫細分會議或者台美的對談如果是確切需求的我們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
763.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
775.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
在黨派之外尋求最大的共識讓1.25兆能夠全數通過我想這說明就條例通過1.25兆不代表空白授權1.25兆還是要細項還是要預算審查還是要大約通過所以絕對沒有空白授權 |